View Full Version : "Overeem is not a very good fighter" -Chael Sonnen


Dorian
10-23-2011, 08:10 PM
The guy's built for show, not for go. He's made for a poster, he looks like he's made out of clay. He's not a very good fighter. And as far as the K-1 being this great striking event, the K-1 is a striking only event. If you're in the K-1, you're only allowed to strike. But I've never seen a great striker there. I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables: Bob-Sapp.

Dorian
10-23-2011, 08:12 PM
http://www.cagedinsider.com/wp-content/images/mma/2011/09/Alistair-Overeem-three-titles.jpg

I'm a huge Chael fan but...

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa429/jekkala1/u_mad.gif

SLIMY RAT
10-23-2011, 08:23 PM
LOOOOL at the bob sapp thing... he is right though... Didn't bob sapp beat up a k1 legend also :lol1:

Sn1
10-24-2011, 08:14 AM
if Brock beats Overeem, what will his fanboys do then? [Big IF]
gonna be almost as bad as Werdum owning Fedor.

lebrick
10-24-2011, 09:57 AM
great point though... UFC fighter will not thrive in K1 rules and vice versa.. but chael forget that overeem also fought in strikeforce where the rules are almost identical to UFC.

New England
10-24-2011, 10:06 AM
The guy's built for show, not for go. He's made for a poster, he looks like he's made out of clay. He's not a very good fighter. And as far as the K-1 being this great striking event, the K-1 is a striking only event. If you're in the K-1, you're only allowed to strike. But I've never seen a great striker there. I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables: Bob-Sapp.




lol and where are you seeing them exactly?


like it or not, a technical kickboxer is lightyears ahead of some wrestler whose "striking" game has only been developed within the last few years at best.


if you dont think K-1 has better strikers than MMA you dont know **** about fighting. you just dont get it.

striking is all these guys in k-1 do.


overeem is very technical and very patient. he's also very talented physically, with very good power in either hand or knee and a pretty solid chin. he's also freakishly strong at this stage in his life.

he's a rough go at HW

he's hard to take down and has a stand up style that makes it hard to be effective. he's also got a solid ground game in terms of not being submitted and early in his career he had lots of submissions. he's big and strong enough for the big man// strong man moves as well. (kimuras, chokes from the top, etc)

he's a big and well rounded mixed martial artist and he fights that way.

SLIMY RAT
10-24-2011, 10:06 AM
great point though... UFC fighter will not thrive in K1 rules and vice versa.. but chael forget that overeem also fought in strikeforce where the rules are almost identical to UFC.

And did what exactly?

lebrick
10-24-2011, 10:20 AM
And did what exactly?

haven't heard that he was the champion in strikeforce and pride champion at the same time?

Big BRICKS
10-24-2011, 11:10 AM
Well you can sort of discredit the K1 by saying Bob Sapp beat the arguable K1 GOAT in Ernesto Hoost, but at the same time, what heavyweight in the UFC could take Bob Sapp in K1? Let's be honest, outside of a prime Mirko who really stands a chance? Dos Santos? It sounds kind of funny, but can anyone here really imagine these guys beating a young Bob Sapp in K1?

I don't know, just a thought.

F l i c k e r
10-24-2011, 02:37 PM
Chael doesn't know what K-1 really is. He just wiki'd for a moment. Picked up content and then trashed Overeem and K-1 all together.

I like Chael but that is what he did.

Overeem isn't as good as people want make him out to be, I will admit that. Before he got huge, he got taken apart by Liddell for heaven's sake. So he isn't all that. But his sheer size is what makes him a threat in the UFC. He gets you on the ground, what are you gonna do? :dunno:

Rocky...
10-24-2011, 03:52 PM
As long as he beats the **** out of brock i dont care :boxing:

Sn1
10-26-2011, 11:55 AM
its funny cause in some ways, Overeem is more well rounded than Chael Sonnen.

I really can't stand Overeem and definitely think he is very overated but nonetheless, I am not gonna troll and say the **** Sonnen does lol. Overeem is very good and clearly significantly better [at juicing] then he was as a LHW.

Can you imagine Overeem vs Shogun now?

lebrick
10-28-2011, 02:45 AM
its funny cause in some ways, Overeem is more well rounded than Chael Sonnen.

I really can't stand Overeem and definitely think he is very overated but nonetheless, I am not gonna troll and say the **** Sonnen does lol. Overeem is very good and clearly significantly better [at juicing] then he was as a LHW.

Can you imagine Overeem vs Shogun now?

who would have thought that shogun has a win over reem considering their size disparity now? :nonono:

Blair_Wells#32
10-28-2011, 02:05 PM
"Honestly, I think Brock will win pretty easily," said Mir, in a recent interview with ESPN. "I don't think he's (Overeem) going to get off his back. I'd be very shocked - I'd applaud Overeem if he got off his back."

AL YANKAB*TCH
10-28-2011, 10:04 PM
I bet he wouldn't say that to Overeem's face..:nono:

Blair_Wells#32
10-29-2011, 06:50 AM
I bet he would. Nog...****ed Up....Cro Cop ****ed Up.....all Pride Hw's that came to the UFC ****ed Up.
and Mir Took em Out.
Fedor would be Next but he's Hiding in M-1.


Edit- See The Sig.

Sn1
10-29-2011, 11:26 AM
Fedor hasn't been a relevant HW since he beat Rogers, only his fanboys think otherwise. Pretty much everyone in the TOP 10 of HW or LHW would destroy him.

Clegg
10-29-2011, 11:45 AM
Even when he was a LHW, Reem had better striking and submission skills than Chael does now.