View Full Version : David Tua vs Earnie Shavers: head to head


Pastrano
10-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Who do you think would win and who was a better overall fighter? I think Tua was a better fighter technically than Earnie and he doesn't get enough credit for it. Watch the Ibeabuchi fight, watch how Tua came back after getting dominated in the early rounds and outboxed and outpunched Ike. It wasnt just due to power and aggressiveness, it also took skill. Ike himself was also technically skilled and maybe doesn't always gets the credit. The problem is, sometimes Tuaman just wasn't that motivated to make an effort so he waited for his opponent to empty his tank before annihilating him. But he was a good boxer nonetheless, in his prime that is.

Shavers on the other hand was all about power and aggression. If you watch the Lyle fight for instance, he had Lyle hurt in the early going but when Lyle weathered the storm and came back, Shavers had nothing left. Had he been as good as Tua, I'm sure he could have won against Ali. Ali wasn't exactly at the prime of his career then. Plus Shavers lacked the great chin that Tua is blessed with. Not saying Shavers had no skills whatsoever, but they were limited. Tua, while not Jimmy Young or Orlin Norris, was still a rather good boxer for a puncher. Only the slickest could outbox him soundly. I wish he had fought Byrd before, at the time when he fought Ibeabuchi.

So the similarities between these 2 end in that they were both murderous punchers and short heavyweights. My prediction is, Tua weathers Shavers' early attacks and cracks his chin somewhere in the early mid rounds. KO5 for Tuaman.

And btw, I scored the Ibeabuchi fight even.

DBSLM
10-23-2011, 05:58 PM
This is a high contact explosive fight. I got david tua in 3 rds because he's the better catcher of the 2

Pastrano
10-23-2011, 06:45 PM
This is a high contact explosive fight. I got david tua in 3 rds because he's the better catcher of the 2

Yea, actually I hardly think it would last 5 rounds. If Tua connected with the right shot, Shavers'd be out cold. 3 rounds it is.

SCtrojansbaby
10-23-2011, 08:19 PM
Both guys had power but Tua had a chin also. Tua KO in under 5 rounds

tenPt
10-24-2011, 01:00 AM
I got Tua in eight.

GoogleMe
10-25-2011, 04:55 AM
David Tua could take a shot. Earnie Shavers is slow, but VERY powerful. He'd never throw a shot that TUa would not see, and Tua' would eventually hit with a straight right followed by a left hook, and it'd be lightsout.

winky's right
10-25-2011, 05:11 AM
I also have Tua stopping him early.

Terry A
10-25-2011, 03:13 PM
In terms of who I think is the better all-time fighter, I'd say its Shavers. I think he would beat more fighters over-all than Tua. But for THIS match-up, I think Tua's chin is the difference. He has a better chance to weather what Shavers can throw than Shavers has in withstanding what Tua would be throwing. If that makes sense....

Pastrano
10-25-2011, 03:16 PM
In terms of who I think is the better all-time fighter, I'd say its Shavers. I think he would beat more fighters over-all than Tua. But for THIS match-up, I think Tua's chin is the difference. He has a better chance to weather what Shavers can throw than Shavers has in withstanding what Tua would be throwing. If that makes sense....

Youre WRONG, dead wrong. Tua had better defense, better boxing skills and a better chin. Shavers just had power and perhaps some movement/footwork. How does that make him all-time better??

Terry A
10-25-2011, 03:25 PM
Youre WRONG, dead wrong. Tua had better defense, better boxing skills and a better chin. Shavers just had power and perhaps some movement/footwork. How does that make him all-time better??

It's how I see it. It's called an opinion.

And if there's such a wide margin or disparity between them, why propose this fantasy match up? Don't you already know the answer then?

DeepSleep
10-25-2011, 04:19 PM
Tua's chin is much sturdier then Shaver's. Given both guys will land bombs I'll pick the guy who can take as well as he can give.

Pastrano
10-25-2011, 04:26 PM
It's how I see it. It's called an opinion.

And if there's such a wide margin or disparity between them, why propose this fantasy match up? Don't you already know the answer then?

I see many of you have misunderstood the point of this thread. Its not just a fantasy matchup, but also a comparison between the two. Dig? If I wanted to do just a matchup, I'd done it in the fantasy fights forum.

Terry A
10-25-2011, 11:36 PM
Who do you think would win and who was a better overall fighter?
My prediction is, Tua weathers Shavers' early attacks and cracks his chin somewhere in the early mid rounds. KO5 for Tuaman.

And btw, I scored the Ibeabuchi fight even.

I see many of you have misunderstood the point of this thread. Its not just a fantasy matchup, but also a comparison between the two. Dig? If I wanted to do just a matchup, I'd done it in the fantasy fights forum.


Pastrano,
You seem out of sorts today. "You're WRONG! Dead wrong"....."...many of you have misunderstood the point of this thread. It's not a fantasy match up"......the Kapish in another thread.....

You flexing kinda strong today, ain't you?

Instead of debating or rehashing, I'll just stick to one question....

If this ain't a fantasy match up, why did you write "Who do you think would win?" and also, offer your opinion on the outcome of said fantasy match up?

And also, I have no grudge against you at all. You and me always got along great until your junk today. I still ain't mad or nothing. I just figure you're having a rough day. No big deal bud.

$BloodyNate$
10-25-2011, 11:54 PM
Foreman had a better chin then lyle but lyle hurt foreman more. If shaver lands first which I think he could he could hurt and stop Tia who's been hurt before a couple times. It'll be a quick fight. In a durable war of attrition war if it don't end quick then yeah tua but I don't think it'll be that it'll be fireworks that'll be about who lands the best shot first.

Pastrano
10-26-2011, 10:16 AM
Pastrano,
You seem out of sorts today. "You're WRONG! Dead wrong"....."...many of you have misunderstood the point of this thread. It's not a fantasy match up"......the Kapish in another thread.....

You flexing kinda strong today, ain't you?

Instead of debating or rehashing, I'll just stick to one question....

If this ain't a fantasy match up, why did you write "Who do you think would win?" and also, offer your opinion on the outcome of said fantasy match up?

And also, I have no grudge against you at all. You and me always got along great until your junk today. I still ain't mad or nothing. I just figure you're having a rough day. No big deal bud.

Please, no patronising!:nono: I was not at all having a rough day. But your opinion on this stinks. Can I say that? Ok. We've straightened that out. Now we can go back to getting along.:lol1: You are welcome to say my opinion stinks too, but im being backed on this by more people than you are.

Terry A
10-26-2011, 05:01 PM
Please, no patronising!:nono: I was not at all having a rough day. But your opinion on this stinks. Can I say that? Ok. We've straightened that out. Now we can go back to getting along.:lol1: You are welcome to say my opinion stinks too, but im being backed on this by more people than you are.

I patronize WalMart. You have nothing to sell, so I don't know how I could shop with you! :D

Even if you win this thread, I'll be OK. Honest, it won't bother me! I'm a pretty secure guy.

I'm pulling up out of this thread now. It took a funny detour!

PS- You DID have this thread set up as a fantasy match up, as I already indicated, and your mind was already made up, as I showed in the quotes you gave.

Just saying.......:D

The_Demon
10-26-2011, 05:42 PM
In terms of who I think is the better all-time fighter, I'd say its Shavers. I think he would beat more fighters over-all than Tua. But for THIS match-up, I think Tua's chin is the difference. He has a better chance to weather what Shavers can throw than Shavers has in withstanding what Tua would be throwing. If that makes sense....

Spot on pal

New England
10-26-2011, 08:25 PM
Tua's chin is much sturdier then Shaver's. Given both guys will land bombs I'll pick the guy who can take as well as he can give.




this sounds very good to me


in a historic matchup between HW's with a great punch the chin is the most important factor


these guys are going to hit each other. they arent going to finish the fight at 100%.


tua had better conditioning and the better chin

i think he wins in a gunfight