View Full Version : did les darcy really KO fred fulton sparring?


sallywinder
10-12-2011, 09:12 PM
there is evidence to suggest it did occur. les supposedly ko'd heavyweight fulton in 2 rounds in a spar. however, it is hotly contested in another forum that this spar actually took place.

below is the 'evidence' that i can find that it did;

first is an interview with jack dempsey who said it happened. http://www.darcy-niland.com.au/LesDarcy.html

second is a newspaper article. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi...9221111.2.67.6

did it actually happen?

McGoorty
10-13-2011, 05:23 AM
there is evidence to suggest it did occur. les supposedly ko'd heavyweight fulton in 2 rounds in a spar. however, it is hotly contested in another forum that this spar actually took place.

below is the 'evidence' that i can find that it did;

first is an interview with jack dempsey who said it happened. http://www.darcy-niland.com.au/LesDarcy.html

second is a newspaper article. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi...9221111.2.67.6

did it actually happen?
I believe the story..... idiot features has claimed it Didn't happen,...... he can't prove it, all we have is plenty of talk (as he said that nobody did until YEARS later,.... well 1917 isn't even a year later). In the absence of film of the event, we have probability of say 85 %. Dempsey, Tunney, Kearns, Braga, King, swanwick, Niland etc etc.... all liars according to Klinkwit.

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 02:13 AM
Heres some links Re Crouse claim, I can't gain access to some,... credit card maxed...http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/access/382021091.html?dids=382021091:382021091&FMT=CITE&FMTS=CITE:AI&type=historic&date=Jun+04%2C+1916&author=&pub=Chicago+Tribune&desc=LES+DARCY+FLOORS+CROUSE+IN+SECOND+ROUND+OF+CL ASH.&pqatl=googlehttp://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/336101242.html?dids=336101242:336101242&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Jan+05%2C+1917&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=ANECDOTES+OF+LES+DARCY+PROVE+HIM+A+WONDER.&pqatl=googlehttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=13&ved=0CC8QqQIwAjgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19160812.2.60.1&ei=sMCXTtemLMnbmAXDqsH5AQ&usg=AFQjCNG6zGQcju5czbD2wi_UEol2_bRNnQ&sig2=nIxHFLowNJtWe8wiH4W32g&prmdo=1http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=14&ved=0CDEQqQIwAzgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid %3DSv0gAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DonUFAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D4002% 2C1970146%26dq%3Dles%2Bdarcy%2Bbuck%2Bcrouse%26hl% 3Den&ei=sMCXTtemLMnbmAXDqsH5AQ&usg=AFQjCNEzesKLzebB7xZ3Yf_iFCnDUiw8vw&sig2=z3jPmwcawTP_3MSCaLyw1ghttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=12&ved=0CC0QqQIwATgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19160610.2.62.2&ei=sMCXTtemLMnbmAXDqsH5AQ&usg=AFQjCNF5ac172YJLmMw6EPmOwe4brJRqRA&sig2=tKbXmS1PeXgnWRi6FgfiPw&prmdo=1

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 02:15 AM
Heres some links Re Crouse claim, I can't gain access to some,... credit card maxed...http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/access/382021091.html?dids=382021091:382021091&FMT=CITE&FMTS=CITE:AI&type=historic&date=Jun+04%2C+1916&author=&pub=Chicago+Tribune&desc=LES+DARCY+FLOORS+CROUSE+IN+SECOND+ROUND+OF+CL ASH.&pqatl=googlehttp://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/336101242.html?dids=336101242:336101242&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Jan+05%2C+1917&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=ANECDOTES+OF+LES+DARCY+PROVE+HIM+A+WONDER.&pqatl=googlehttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=13&ved=0CC8QqQIwAjgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19160812.2.60.1&ei=sMCXTtemLMnbmAXDqsH5AQ&usg=AFQjCNG6zGQcju5czbD2wi_UEol2_bRNnQ&sig2=nIxHFLowNJtWe8wiH4W32g&prmdo=1http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=14&ved=0CDEQqQIwAzgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid %3DSv0gAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DonUFAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D4002% 2C1970146%26dq%3Dles%2Bdarcy%2Bbuck%2Bcrouse%26hl% 3Den&ei=sMCXTtemLMnbmAXDqsH5AQ&usg=AFQjCNEzesKLzebB7xZ3Yf_iFCnDUiw8vw&sig2=z3jPmwcawTP_3MSCaLyw1ghttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=12&ved=0CC0QqQIwATgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19160610.2.62.2&ei=sMCXTtemLMnbmAXDqsH5AQ&usg=AFQjCNF5ac172YJLmMw6EPmOwe4brJRqRA&sig2=tKbXmS1PeXgnWRi6FgfiPw&prmdo=1
Man I just put six links in then and one came up...... it keeps happening and I keep losing them ?????

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:29 AM
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30E17FC3E5D1A728DDDAD0894DE405B 868DF1D3

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:31 AM
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZTR19160624.2.45.2

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:33 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=12&ved=0CC0QqQIwATgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19160610.2.62.2&ei=qfOXTvDJBOLJmAXNk9ClAg&usg=AFQjCNF5ac172YJLmMw6EPmOwe4brJRqRA&sig2=gIdp5EZtqsDijMiLhfMNoQ

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:33 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=13&ved=0CC8QqQIwAjgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid %3DSv0gAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DonUFAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D4002% 2C1970146%26dq%3Dles%2Bdarcy%2Bbuck%2Bcrouse%26hl% 3Den&ei=qfOXTvDJBOLJmAXNk9ClAg&usg=AFQjCNEzesKLzebB7xZ3Yf_iFCnDUiw8vw&sig2=-9okqVME66FhVqzmwSZj9w

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:44 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=15&ved=0CDMQqQIwBDgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid %3D3LwNAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DBFQDAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D4454% 2C5155055%26dq%3Dles%2Bdarcy%2Bbuck%2Bcrouse%26hl% 3Den&ei=qfOXTvDJBOLJmAXNk9ClAg&usg=AFQjCNFgyYBfpoi7Hyl_iF0Y6RavbPx7uw&sig2=zEx4LhxEYs3udTZ5PhVrJw

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:57 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=16&ved=0CDUQqQIwBTgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19160812.2.60.1&ei=qfOXTvDJBOLJmAXNk9ClAg&usg=AFQjCNG6zGQcju5czbD2wi_UEol2_bRNnQ&sig2=2W7cptHEA2kXrSmWtg2vvA

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 05:59 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=19&ved=0CDsQqQIwCDgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19170707.2.62.7&ei=qfOXTvDJBOLJmAXNk9ClAg&usg=AFQjCNEU_xcE_WTuJrkxgzrOSf8xyhyAVA&sig2=VimHPReGEi6q4yXaG1HTww

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 06:02 AM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=newssearch&cd=21&ved=0CCsQqQIwADgU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaperspast.natlib.govt.nz%2Fcgi-bin%2Fpaperspast%3Fa%3Dd%26d%3DNZTR19171117.2.49.2&ei=ePqXTtGMIcTmmAXbtfyjAg&usg=AFQjCNEr7CLAu00-yn4FVlVTr1oGy2g_dA&sig2=wJk9H_8moUfSZZKYWA4ptg

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 06:10 AM
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70814FD3F5E11738DDDA80A94DB405B878DF1D3

McGoorty
10-14-2011, 06:15 AM
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70814FD3F5E11738DDDA80A94DB405B878DF1D3
Hey Sally........ this link says that Darcy is Sparring Fulton tomorrow...... mate this is a reference here........ I may have to check, but did HE say that Fulton never met Darcy,... well this is the New York Times.

sallywinder
10-18-2011, 06:14 PM
wow. good stuff mate!:banana:

McGoorty
10-22-2011, 04:30 AM
wow. good stuff mate!:banana:
No worries mate..........................................