View Full Version : Chavez jr. vs Grover Wiley


vze2hhvj
10-30-2005, 05:08 PM
What happen to this fight. it was suppose to happen in the undercard of the Klitschko vs Rahman fight. Grover Wiley was the man who last beat Chevez Senior. It would have been interesting to see his son avenge his loss. what do you think guys?

{BrownBomber}
10-30-2005, 05:23 PM
that I know of it still is, didnt hear that it got cancelled.

SAN D13GO VILLAN
10-30-2005, 10:03 PM
I was looking forward to that match!!!

vze2hhvj
10-30-2005, 10:31 PM
im an advid BOXREC follower and both Grover and Chavez Jr 1 month ago had the fight each on thier up coming bout, but as of 1 week ago Grover has no fight up coming and Chavez JR now has a "?" as his next oppenent. :( WHY!!!!!!!!!!

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-30-2005, 10:36 PM
I read something about Wiley not being able to make the 140lb limit. And Chavez Jr not ready to fight at 147 yet or something.

RAESAAD
10-30-2005, 10:40 PM
JR should dust him if he don't it answers a few questions. :)

Tha Greatest
10-30-2005, 10:40 PM
I read something about Wiley not being able to make the 140lb limit. And Chavez Jr not ready to fight at 147 yet or something.


OOOOOO!!!!!

So it's ok for Castillo(Mexican) to NOT make weight...but it's NOT ok for Wiley(American) to NOT make weight?

OOOOOH!
EXPWNED!!!!!!!!!

for real though.....what's up with that?

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-30-2005, 10:43 PM
OOOOOO!!!!!

So it's ok for Castillo(Mexican) to NOT make weight...but it's NOT ok for Wiley(American) to NOT make weight?

OOOOOH!
EXPWNED!!!!!!!!!

for real though.....what's up with that?

LOL well if he spits out the moutpiece they'll be even right? :D hahaha mamon


I dont know, Wiley was a big kid though. Chavez Sr. Looked a little small nex to him. He was still controlling him though before the stoppage.

Tha Greatest
10-30-2005, 10:44 PM
LOL well if he spits out the moutpiece they'll be even right? :D hahaha mamon


I dont know, Wiley was a big kid though. Chavez Sr. Looked a little small nex to him. He was still controlling him though before the stoppage.


ooor...

what about Castillo's trainers trying to hold Castillo up so he weighs 135...****in CHEATERS!!!!

RAESAAD
10-30-2005, 10:46 PM
ooor...

what about Castillo's trainers trying to hold Castillo up so he weighs 135...****in CHEATERS!!!!
UMMMMMMMMMMMMM you are being too drastic.............Samew result weight was not the question.

Tha Greatest
10-30-2005, 10:49 PM
UMMMMMMMMMMMMM you are being too drastic.............Samew result weight was not the question.

I'm just playin with my 2nd cousin Ultimate man..

RAESAAD
10-30-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm just playin with my 2nd cousin Ultimate man..
Sorry I guess...then.Just speakin my mind.

vze2hhvj
10-30-2005, 11:52 PM
where did you hear teh news reguarding this fight?

masterdirector
10-30-2005, 11:59 PM
I can't believe they put that Chavez Sr. fight on ****ing TV Azteca or whatever the **** it was. That **** was bottom of the barrel TV at its worst. And those ads they kept putting around the screen were annoying the **** out of me, as was the ****ty 1970s Round # graphic before the beginning of each round. They took too long getting that **** down.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-31-2005, 12:01 AM
where did you hear teh news reguarding this fight?

Here u go man:

http://www.box-latino.com/noticias2.cfm?id=568

chavezjr
10-31-2005, 11:03 AM
Wiley weighed in at 150.5 for the Phoenix fight, and I don't think it would have been hard for him to get down to 143. But Top Rank didn't seem to want to make the match. On October 10th, the Arizona Republic ran an article that included the following segment:

"Arum isn't happy with comments from Grover Wiley, the car salesman who has been making fun of Julio Cesar Chavez since he beat him Sept. 17 at America West Arena. Arum says Wiley has talked himself out of a bout with Chavez' son. J.C. Chavez Jr. But Arum might have to listen to the son, who said before and after his victory Saturday night over Jeremy Stiers that Wiley is the only fight he wants."

And then a few days later, an interview (http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/2741/superstar/) with Top Rank matchmaker Bruce Trampler said he didn't think he was ready for the match.

'"I couldn't stop him from fighting whoever he wants, but I certainly don't think that is a good fight for him right now," Trampler said of Wiley, a wily veteran who is 30-6-1 (14 KOs). "Julio Jr. is calling the guy out. That's what fighters are supposed to do and it is commendable. But that's why they have managers: to stop them from talking with their heart instead of their head. Wiley is a strong, solid guy. There will be plenty of time to chase him down the road."'

The official reason for the fight not taking place is the weight, but I don't know. Now they're putting Junior in against Kevin Payne, which is a huge disappointment for me. They could at least have given ***an the rematch he's been promised for so long.

vze2hhvj
10-31-2005, 06:20 PM
Thanks of rthe info Ultimate, thank God i can read Spanish :)