View Full Version : HBO disapointed about HW PPV sales


Nodogoshi
12-26-2004, 03:48 PM
HBO Sports announced earlier this week that last Saturday nights pay-per-view heavyweight title fight between Vitali Klitschko and Danny Williams at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas generated approximately 120,000 buys. This comes on the heels of the Nov. 13 heavyweight PPV show from New York's Madison Square Garden, which also produced 120,000 buys. "We're disappointed," said HBO’s Ross Greenburg.

"We realize that the heavyweight division needs to be re-energized in 2005," added Greenburg.
"We're committed to doing our best to present the most compelling and attractive heavyweight matchups in 2005, and we hope that all the promoters involved in the division recognize the need to develop a meaningful heavyweight plan.

“Boxing needs a unified heavyweight champion to emerge and be recognized by the public as 'The Man'."



Maybe they'll finally learn to stop charging people 50 bux for fights that nobody really wants to see.

Neuraxis
12-26-2004, 04:33 PM
Why would they expect a bunch of horrible fights to make a lot of money?

Hurlex
12-26-2004, 04:59 PM
they need to be pissed at
don king,thats who,for his
organization of such a cluster-
f**k of fights...and he a *****
also for not letting his fighters
fight VK...he knows that none of
his fighters can beat VK, and since
VK wont sign with him,,,we have this
happening...dammit i hate don king

abdiel2k3
12-26-2004, 05:02 PM
thats pretty impressive
their one HW made as much as 3 or 2 other HW fights

Miguel Cotto X 23
12-26-2004, 07:05 PM
The HW right now Sucks exept VK.

Nautilus
12-26-2004, 07:39 PM
The HW right now Sucks exept VK.



DK should let the tournament begin.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-26-2004, 07:48 PM
I cant believe they even sold that many. These heavyweight PPV's are now nominated by me as the second largest screwjobs next to the DLH - Hopkins PPV.

QueenCity
12-26-2004, 07:52 PM
A fight featuring Vitali Klitchko verses Danny Williams shouldn't have been a PPV headline no more than the man in the moon.

Nautilus
12-26-2004, 08:00 PM
A fight featuring Vitali Klitchko verses Danny Williams shouldn't have been a PPV headline no more than the man in the moon.


yeah... but it earned as much or more than the PPV that included the following four bouts:

1. Byrd v McCline;
2. Golota v Ruis;
3. Rahman v Minogue;
4. Holyfield v Donald.


I think they could have had a single succesful PPV that included just these two bouts:

1. VK vs Williams;
2. Byrd vs McCline.

neils7147933
12-26-2004, 08:03 PM
I think other boxing fans that will buy anything and are numbered around 120,000 bought both cards, just as I did.

Nautilus
12-26-2004, 08:10 PM
I think other boxing fans that will buy anything and are numbered around 120,000 bought both cards, just as I did.

... just as I did too. :)

Xecutioner
12-27-2004, 01:14 PM
fucc all that, if the card is worth it i will show up in person. other than that i can usually find the fight on the internet for free, or check it out at a local bar need to pay . worst case scenario is i listen to a live radio feed off the net, which i have no problem with .

Truth
12-27-2004, 01:44 PM
Boxing needs a heavyweight tounament featuring Rahman, Toney, Klitcshko,Ruiz,Golata and Byrd.

neils7147933
12-27-2004, 01:51 PM
Boxing needs a heavyweight tounament featuring Rahman, Toney, Klitcshko,Ruiz,Golata and Byrd.

If you've only got that many participants, there's on way Golota belongs. But it's hard to do a tournament with 6...

I think if it was down to 8, we could set it up fairly easily; then once the champ had arrived those who had lost would have to fight each other to move back up.

(1) V. Klitschko vs. (8) Golota

(2) Byrd vs. (7) Mesi

(3) Ruiz vs. (6) Toney

(4) Brewster vs. (5) Rahman

abdiel2k3
12-27-2004, 01:54 PM
If you've only got that many participants, there's on way Golota belongs. But it's hard to do a tournament with 6...

I think if it was down to 8, we could set it up fairly easily; then once the champ had arrived those who had lost would have to fight each other to move back up.

(1) V. Klitschko vs. (8) Golota

(2) Byrd vs. (7) Mesi

(3) Ruiz vs. (6) Toney

(4) Brewster vs. (5) Rahman

Mesi dont belong there

neils7147933
12-27-2004, 01:55 PM
Mesi's ranked #1 WBC and that's VK's belt?

neils7147933
12-27-2004, 01:56 PM
Mesi's ranked #1 WBC and that's VK's belt?

...plus he's the only undefeated...

Mr. Untouchable
12-27-2004, 02:07 PM
Why would they expect a bunch of horrible fights to make a lot of money?I was thinking the same thing. I normally watch any boxing match that come on tv, with the exception for the Klitscho/Williamsm fight I wouldn't have watched any of the last few HW PPV fights even if they were shown on FSN...The HW division sucks right now. All the promoters and politics are killing the sport and it seems as if it is starting with the HW division...

Miguel Cotto X 23
12-27-2004, 02:19 PM
If you've only got that many participants, there's on way Golota belongs. But it's hard to do a tournament with 6...

I think if it was down to 8, we could set it up fairly easily; then once the champ had arrived those who had lost would have to fight each other to move back up.

(1) V. Klitschko vs. (8) Golota

(2) Byrd vs. (7) Mesi

(3) Ruiz vs. (6) Toney

(4) Brewster vs. (5) Rahman


will b nice if they do that.

Mr. Ryan
12-27-2004, 04:02 PM
I could sell more PPV's of me hitting a heavy bag. I took a survey.

Atwa_66
12-27-2004, 07:32 PM
they need to be pissed at
don king,thats who,for his
organization of such a cluster-
f**k of fights...and he a *****
also for not letting his fighters
fight VK...he knows that none of
his fighters can beat VK, and since
VK wont sign with him,,,we have this
happening...dammit i hate don king
I think Vitali would be a good fight for Golota
Golota is powerful as hell, but Vitali has a longer reach
I don't know, I think it would be something to see

Mr. Ryan
12-27-2004, 07:37 PM
According to **********.com, the actual sales may be closer to 75,000 for Klitschko-Williams.

Sweat
12-27-2004, 08:14 PM
It only shows that the Heavyweight division is the most boring division today.

Mr. Ryan
12-27-2004, 08:15 PM
It only shows that the Heavyweight division is the most boring division today.
HBO disappointed with HW PPV sales? Sensation disappointed with HBO HW, Period.

Sweat
12-27-2004, 08:17 PM
Heavyweight bouts should not be on PPV. They should show HW bouts on HBO boxing after dark or something.

neils7147933
12-27-2004, 08:18 PM
This site crashed during the VK fight. I don't think those were people wanting companion commentary to the fight showing on TV. That's people interested in watching the fight but not willing to pay for it logging on to see what happened.

Mr. Ryan
12-27-2004, 08:19 PM
Heavyweight bouts should not be on PPV. They should show HW bouts on HBO boxing after dark or something.
Yes, kinda like Ruiz-Kirk Johnson? Is that the kinda garbage you want opening up a Cotto or Barrera card?

Sweat
12-27-2004, 08:21 PM
Yes, kinda like Ruiz-Kirk Johnson? Is that the kinda garbage you want opening up a Cotto or Barrera card?

heheheh they should be the undercard not the main event. (HW ARE GARBAGE)

Nautilus
12-27-2004, 08:35 PM
HBO Denies Inflating Klitschko-Williams PPV #'s
By G. Leon

December 27, 2004 - Just minutes ago, HBO PPV whiz Mark Taffet told **********.com that the numbers for the Kltischko-Williams PPV were not inflated by HBO at all and that the rumors to the contrary running rampant throughout the boxing industry are completely false. Despite several reliable sources informing **********.com differently, Taffet, who stated that he was "the only real source for the real numbers", also insisted that the show will end up generating more than the 120,000 PPV buys intially relaseed by HBO because they've yet to tally the Puerto Rican PPV buys.

IwatchBoxing
12-27-2004, 08:46 PM
HBO Denies Inflating Klitschko-Williams PPV #'s
By G. Leon

December 27, 2004 - Just minutes ago, HBO PPV whiz Mark Taffet told **********.com that the numbers for the Kltischko-Williams PPV were not inflated by HBO at all and that the rumors to the contrary running rampant throughout the boxing industry are completely false. Despite several reliable sources informing **********.com differently, Taffet, who stated that he was "the only real source for the real numbers", also insisted that the show will end up generating more than the 120,000 PPV buys intially relaseed by HBO because they've yet to tally the Puerto Rican PPV buys.the Puerto Rican PPV buys.What are they the police? :D

markosg19
12-28-2004, 11:34 AM
what did they expect. That fight was nevera payperview. I suprised that many people tuned in. You ca't put someone in a ppv fight on the strength of one performance

Sir_Jose
12-28-2004, 11:19 PM
It cant be said enought just how bad that is. Anything under 250,000 for a big heavyweight fight is awfull.

MAB/Morales got 300,000+ and there wasn't even an American on the card.