View Full Version : Has UFC officially fallen into the same deathtraps as boxing???


shadeyfizzle
10-03-2011, 08:48 PM
Mma in general and ufc in particular has as always been proud of matching the best with the best.

Now that ufc catches its big break on national tv instead of showcasing everything mma truly has to offer it stacks a bunch of striker vs striker fights for entertainment value. Highlighlited by newly signed cung le who is without a doubt 1 of the top 3 strikers in mma and instead of being matched tough against a fighter who can test his defficiencies is being used as a marketing tool with a fight tailor made to showcase his high flying kung fu movie style to undoubtedly attract a younger audience to ufc.

Clegg
10-03-2011, 10:54 PM
UFC 139 is on free TV?

Big BRICKS
10-04-2011, 01:06 AM
UFC 139 is on free TV?

I don't think Shogun vs Hendo is but he's talking about Velasquez vs Dos Santos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox:_Velasquez_vs._Dos_Santos

shadeyfizzle
10-04-2011, 01:16 AM
I don't think Shogun vs Hendo is but he's talking about Velasquez vs Dos Santos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox:_Velasquez_vs._Dos_Santos

Oops. My mistake. I don't know why I thought that whole card was the undercard for velasquez-dos santos. But still cung le is in I believe his 7th or 8th mma bout and he has yet to fight a grappler. Fine in the bushleagues but the ufc is still matching him with brawlers.

Big BRICKS
10-04-2011, 01:20 AM
Oops. My mistake. I don't know why I thought that whole card was the undercard for velasquez-dos santos. But still cung le is in I believe his 7th or 8th mma bout and he has yet to fight a grappler. Fine in the bushleagues but the ufc is still matching him with brawlers.

Well you have to understand that UFC, just like boxing, NFL, etc. are all entertainment businesses first and foremost. Even if the UFC truly has no other intention than matching the best fighters up, they have to look at what sells. The viewer audience sees stand up fighters are more exciting.. I can guarantee you that if the UFC was a Brazilian based organization that we'd be watching much more grappling.

F l i c k e r
10-04-2011, 01:27 AM
No.

The UFC uses team sports as a model for business.

They are basically trying to get the UFC to be the organization for the sport. Just like the NFL, MLB, etc etc.

Monte Fisto
10-04-2011, 01:35 AM
Oops. My mistake. I don't know why I thought that whole card was the undercard for velasquez-dos santos. But still cung le is in I believe his 7th or 8th mma bout and he has yet to fight a grappler. Fine in the bushleagues but the ufc is still matching him with brawlers.Last time I checked Frank Shamrock was considered one of the best grapplers, f**k that, P4P one of the best ever.

Sure, sure, he was past his prime, yadda, yadda... well, Cung Le is roughly around the same age as Frank, w/ much less experience in the cage, especially at that level. It all evens out and Cung Le f**ked his &ss up from head to toe.

ƒallenloki
10-04-2011, 03:49 AM
No.

The UFC uses team sports as a model for business.

They are basically trying to get the UFC to be the organization for the sport. Just like the NFL, MLB, etc etc.

UFC uses the WWE wrestling model. Do some research, it's not that complicated to understand.

I think the UFC's product has finally become stale for many people.

SLIMY RAT
10-04-2011, 05:25 AM
Cung le is rubbish.. he would have got destroyed by Belfort who admitedly is a good striker...

lol at Cungle being a top 3 striker in mma as well

F l i c k e r
10-04-2011, 01:50 PM
UFC uses the WWE wrestling model. Do some research, it's not that complicated to understand.

I think the UFC's product has finally become stale for many people.


You can go with that too.

It's still the organization for the sport. WWE or bust in that business field.

Remember WCW? Does that exist anymore?

ƒallenloki
10-04-2011, 04:28 PM
You can go with that too.

It's still the organization for the sport. WWE or bust in that business field.

Remember WCW? Does that exist anymore?

WCW had a big time fail. They refused to sell when they had value, then they lost their TV deal, lost all their value, and sold for like a tenth of what they originally asked for.

As for my comparison... I get what you mean now. The UFC is trying to become the NFL/NBA/MLB/NHL of the sport. Unfortunately fight sports are not like team sports. Fighters age, fade, and disappear unlike teams.

The UFC operates from the stance that no athlete is bigger than the sport. It's always the organization before the fighters. That's opposite to boxing, but much like pro wrestling.

$BloodyNate$
10-04-2011, 04:50 PM
What the **** are you talking about man? Cain Veslaquez is no doubt the champ, and Dos Santos has been the #1 contender since last year. Best against the best. And its free on the very first fox. HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT! The **** are you smokin cuz I might need some soon when I run out :weedbear:

IronBoxer
10-04-2011, 06:37 PM
TS, you have to understand its all a business strategy on Zuffa's part to detract its MMA competitors like Bellator and yes even boxing. The fact that Velasquez vs Dos Santos falls on the same night as the Pacquiao fight is a good example of what Dana & co are trying to do in terms of garnering a big audience.