View Full Version : Naploes vs Leonard at 147.


Barnburner
10-02-2011, 09:27 AM
I think Napoles takes a decision here, your thoughts?

DarkTerror88
10-02-2011, 11:11 AM
Leonard was the more complete fighter. But IMO napoles superior offense carries him to a razor thin split decision.

nachorjj
10-02-2011, 11:14 AM
Leonard by KO, he is better have more speed and more power

NChristo
10-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Leonard via TKO (Cuts) or a Napoles decision.


Leonard by KO, he is better have more speed and more power

No one is getting KO'd here, :nonono::nonono::nonono:.

joseph5620
10-02-2011, 12:06 PM
I think Napoles takes a decision here, your thoughts?

I just can't see Napoles beating Leonard. I think Leonard beats Napoles and possibly stops him on cuts. Speed is a factor here.

Barnburner
10-02-2011, 01:22 PM
I try to ignore the possibility of cuts in hypothetical matches.

wmute
10-02-2011, 04:50 PM
The great bigger man beats the great smaller man.

Sugarj
10-02-2011, 04:55 PM
I love Napoles, but I'd lean towards a prime Leonard by decision.

Scott9945
10-02-2011, 05:00 PM
I try to ignore the possibility of cuts in hypothetical matches.

That is ideal, but you can't pretend that Napoles didn't have a history of suffering cut eyes. That's why I also think Leonard slices him up.

Barnburner
10-02-2011, 06:04 PM
That is ideal, but you can't pretend that Napoles didn't have a history of suffering cut eyes. That's why I also think Leonard slices him up.
Yeah I know but, it seems unfair.

SCtrojansbaby
10-02-2011, 06:27 PM
Napoles is one of the tougher matchups for Leonard at 147 but I think Leonard wins a close decision

BennyST
10-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Yeah I know but, it seems unfair.

Yeah, it does suck, but it is a simple fact of his career and skin. It's like you take into account Amir Khan or Terry Norris' chin. It simply can't be discounted. I like Leonard for this however. Would be a great, close, chess match in the end which would be decided by Leonard's speed, eye catching combo's and stamina in a close decision.

MANIAC310
10-03-2011, 06:03 PM
I'd favor Leonard over Mantequilla

Pastrano
10-03-2011, 06:20 PM
On his best day, Mantequilla wins definitely. On an average day/night and esp if he gets cut, he might lose. Cuts were his biggest enemy. But I laugh at the notion that Leonard was a harder puncher than Napoles. Hedgemon Lewis' trainer called Napoles a true puncher. Leonard on the other hand was never known primarily for his punching power, esp not above 147.

BennyST
10-03-2011, 06:21 PM
I'd favor Leonard over Mantequilla

I prefer sugar over butter too. Butter too fattening.

Greatest1942
10-03-2011, 06:36 PM
I prefer sugar over butter too. Butter too fattening.


And Sugar causes Diabetes, which is ultimately incurable, and way more troublesome.

BennyST
10-03-2011, 06:49 PM
And Sugar causes Diabetes, which is ultimately incurable, and way more troublesome.

:lol1:

Yeah? Well, well, saturated fat causes heart attacks which kills you and being dead is even more incurable than diabetes! Take that!

BennyST
10-03-2011, 06:53 PM
On his best day, Mantequilla wins definitely. On an average day/night and esp if he gets cut, he might lose. Cuts were his biggest enemy. But I laugh at the notion that Leonard was a harder puncher than Napoles. Hedgemon Lewis' trainer called Napoles a true puncher. Leonard on the other hand was never known primarily for his punching power, esp not above 147.

Yeah, I don't think it's Leonard's power that wins this at all. It was his speed, his boxing brain and his need to win every round and late fight. Also, his jab and reach would trouble Napoles greatly.

Why do you think Napoles wins definitely? What if Leonard also had his best day on the same night? Is Napoles best day that much better than Leonard's? I'd certainly argue black, blue, green and red that it's possible that Leonard's best day was better than anyone's at 147 and definitely no worse.

joseph5620
10-03-2011, 06:55 PM
On his best day, Mantequilla wins definitely. On an average day/night and esp if he gets cut, he might lose. Cuts were his biggest enemy. But I laugh at the notion that Leonard was a harder puncher than Napoles. Hedgemon Lewis' trainer called Napoles a true puncher. Leonard on the other hand was never known primarily for his punching power, esp not above 147.

If you don't think Leonard punched hard at 147 then you don't know much about Leonard. Leonard also stopped Ayub Kalule at 154 so his power just didn't stop at 147. I recall reading where a member of Roberto Duran's team said Duran commented that Leonard punched hard.

BennyST
10-03-2011, 07:02 PM
Leonard was clearly a very hard puncher when he landed flush and actually planted his feet. You don't get stoppages over Benitez (well, Benitez should have lasted, but he was still put down twice and hurt pretty bad), Hearns, and other top guys without having good power. It's underrated, but it wasn't mind blowing.

Napoles did have very good power but not enough to bother Leonard. I think the size and reach of Leonard, his speed, jab and combinations would get him the win. It's possible that he wins on cuts obviously.

RubenSonny
10-03-2011, 08:26 PM
I'd rank Leonard and Napoles power very evenly, I'd probably give Leonard the edge.