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badblood 10-26-2005, 05:40 PM Three-time former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali seems to be losing his battle with Parkinson's, his daughter Laila told the Los Angeles Times.
Ali, 63, has struggled with Parkinson's symptoms for years. But recently, the incurable movement disorder seems to be taking a greater toll.
"I feel like the disease is progressing," she said. "Different things start happening as you get older. I have noticed a change in him, something that goes along with Parkinson's.
"It's painful for me because I would love to sit down and talk to my dad about the way he used to be when he was my age, when he was in his prime, because we are so much alike. I can't really do that. I can't share a lot of things with him."
According to the Parkinson Disease Foundation's Web site, the affliction occurs when certain brain cells malfunction and die. The afflicted have trouble receiving and executing messages from the brain telling the body how to initiate and control movement. Symptoms continue and worsen over time. There is no known cause.
Some think Ali's affliction was caused by the accumulation of punches absorbed over the years.
Medication and surgery can treat the symptoms. Ali is one of approximately one million Americans thought to suffer from Parkinson's.
Laila Ali, 27, is in her sixth year as a pro boxer. She's 21-0 with 18 knockouts. She has more of a chance to bond with her father now than when she was younger, as Ali divorced her mother Veronica Porche when Laila was eight years old.
Once one of the more quotable celebrities, Ali today is mostly silent, his daughter said.
"We don't talk about boxing," she told the Times. "He might come to a fight and say, 'You're bad.' But he was never one to talk much about boxing with us. That was not him. And he doesn't talk much these days anyway. It takes him too much energy to talk.
"He has his good days and his bad days. He's taking a lot of different medications. Sometimes, his speech is so slurred, you can't hardly understand him. But he definitely knows what's going on. That's for sure. He sees everything."
Her father feels "like he's trapped inside his body. He can think. He has things he wants to say, but his lips sometimes just don't move to get it out," said his daughter, who lives in Los Angeles.
"He's just taking life easy. He likes doing simple things. He loves to draw, he likes to color, he likes to clip pictures out of magazines. And he likes to do magic tricks. It doesn't take a whole lot to keep him entertained. But his attention span is very short when the subject is something more than that.
"He doesn't feel sorry for himself, so it's hard to feel sorry for him."
TyrantT316 10-26-2005, 06:27 PM Very sad in a way to hear. No one likes to see someone who was so animated become such a shell. At the same time I for one am happy that Ali got a chance to live his life and make difference in the lives of others. I think that he is someone despite his current condition that can look at his life and not feel many regrets.
Tony Blitz 10-26-2005, 06:29 PM Three-time former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali seems to be losing his battle with Parkinson's, his daughter Laila told the Los Angeles Times.
Ali, 63, has struggled with Parkinson's symptoms for years. But recently, the incurable movement disorder seems to be taking a greater toll.
"I feel like the disease is progressing," she said. "Different things start happening as you get older. I have noticed a change in him, something that goes along with Parkinson's.
"It's painful for me because I would love to sit down and talk to my dad about the way he used to be when he was my age, when he was in his prime, because we are so much alike. I can't really do that. I can't share a lot of things with him."
According to the Parkinson Disease Foundation's Web site, the affliction occurs when certain brain cells malfunction and die. The afflicted have trouble receiving and executing messages from the brain telling the body how to initiate and control movement. Symptoms continue and worsen over time. There is no known cause.
Some think Ali's affliction was caused by the accumulation of punches absorbed over the years.
Medication and surgery can treat the symptoms. Ali is one of approximately one million Americans thought to suffer from Parkinson's.
Laila Ali, 27, is in her sixth year as a pro boxer. She's 21-0 with 18 knockouts. She has more of a chance to bond with her father now than when she was younger, as Ali divorced her mother Veronica Porche when Laila was eight years old.
Once one of the more quotable celebrities, Ali today is mostly silent, his daughter said.
"We don't talk about boxing," she told the Times. "He might come to a fight and say, 'You're bad.' But he was never one to talk much about boxing with us. That was not him. And he doesn't talk much these days anyway. It takes him too much energy to talk.
"He has his good days and his bad days. He's taking a lot of different medications. Sometimes, his speech is so slurred, you can't hardly understand him. But he definitely knows what's going on. That's for sure. He sees everything."
Her father feels "like he's trapped inside his body. He can think. He has things he wants to say, but his lips sometimes just don't move to get it out," said his daughter, who lives in Los Angeles.
"He's just taking life easy. He likes doing simple things. He loves to draw, he likes to color, he likes to clip pictures out of magazines. And he likes to do magic tricks. It doesn't take a whole lot to keep him entertained. But his attention span is very short when the subject is something more than that.
"He doesn't feel sorry for himself, so it's hard to feel sorry for him."
I can just picture him doing that, he has one of the greatest personalities ever. He could cheer up anyone, I read about how he went to see Norton when he was in an accident and performed tricks for him. I hope he goes out in peace.
badblood 10-26-2005, 06:40 PM A legend will soon pass. :(
Manny_P 10-26-2005, 06:41 PM that sux man. I respect Ali ALOOOT! He waged one of ta most infamous battle in boxing history in ma hometown.
Muhammad Ali = Ta Greatest!
Tony Blitz 10-26-2005, 06:48 PM Rosa Parks passed away just a few days ago, once Ali goes that will be the last of the black history heroes :(
badblood 10-26-2005, 06:55 PM Rosa Parks passed away just a few days ago, once Ali goes that will be the last of the black history heroes :(
Your wrong.
Tony Blitz 10-26-2005, 07:00 PM Your wrong.
Who else is there? Malcolm X is gone, Rosa Parks is gone, MLK is gone...
badblood 10-26-2005, 07:04 PM Bill Cosby. :cool:
muhamamd ali is my idol, my mentor. hes the man who has motivated me to become a sports writer, n to fall in love with the sport. i hope he sticks around at least for a few more years, so ill b able to meet him and say 'thank u'.
Atwa_66 10-26-2005, 08:20 PM Three-time former heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali seems to be losing his battle with Parkinson's, his daughter Laila told the Los Angeles Times.
Ali, 63, has struggled with Parkinson's symptoms for years. But recently, the incurable movement disorder seems to be taking a greater toll.
"I feel like the disease is progressing," she said. "Different things start happening as you get older. I have noticed a change in him, something that goes along with Parkinson's.
"It's painful for me because I would love to sit down and talk to my dad about the way he used to be when he was my age, when he was in his prime, because we are so much alike. I can't really do that. I can't share a lot of things with him."
According to the Parkinson Disease Foundation's Web site, the affliction occurs when certain brain cells malfunction and die. The afflicted have trouble receiving and executing messages from the brain telling the body how to initiate and control movement. Symptoms continue and worsen over time. There is no known cause.
Some think Ali's affliction was caused by the accumulation of punches absorbed over the years.
Medication and surgery can treat the symptoms. Ali is one of approximately one million Americans thought to suffer from Parkinson's.
Laila Ali, 27, is in her sixth year as a pro boxer. She's 21-0 with 18 knockouts. She has more of a chance to bond with her father now than when she was younger, as Ali divorced her mother Veronica Porche when Laila was eight years old.
Once one of the more quotable celebrities, Ali today is mostly silent, his daughter said.
"We don't talk about boxing," she told the Times. "He might come to a fight and say, 'You're bad.' But he was never one to talk much about boxing with us. That was not him. And he doesn't talk much these days anyway. It takes him too much energy to talk.
"He has his good days and his bad days. He's taking a lot of different medications. Sometimes, his speech is so slurred, you can't hardly understand him. But he definitely knows what's going on. That's for sure. He sees everything."
Her father feels "like he's trapped inside his body. He can think. He has things he wants to say, but his lips sometimes just don't move to get it out," said his daughter, who lives in Los Angeles.
"He's just taking life easy. He likes doing simple things. He loves to draw, he likes to color, he likes to clip pictures out of magazines. And he likes to do magic tricks. It doesn't take a whole lot to keep him entertained. But his attention span is very short when the subject is something more than that.
"He doesn't feel sorry for himself, so it's hard to feel sorry for him."
That's devastating to read, the man who made Boxing what it is today, and he got such a raw deal afterwards, imagine if he was in good health, the stories he'd have to share, and he'd be there for his daughter who is following in his footsteps, just as a female boxer.
I really wish this was treatable, or even better a cure, but if anything does happen to this hero, let's hope he goes out easy, surrounded by his family. I ache for his family :(
TheManWhoCan 10-26-2005, 09:08 PM Very few people in this world achieve greatness. He is one of them.
TheEvilSaint 10-27-2005, 11:33 AM god, i hope muhammad ali is spared from any more pain.
Parodius 10-27-2005, 11:37 AM Who else is there? Malcolm X is gone, Rosa Parks is gone, MLK is gone...P. Diddy.
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Parodius 10-27-2005, 11:41 AM We don't know, Ali might live another 30 years. He was the greatest HW boxer of all time, during the best time in the HW history.
Bombardier 10-27-2005, 12:07 PM Sad thing is that Ali had big plans for his post-fight career. You know, after the Rumble he was talking like he was going to run for President, and hell, he's so charismatic and such a political thinker who knows how far he could have gone.
badblood 10-27-2005, 12:09 PM Sad thing is that Ali had big plans for his post-fight career. You know, after the Rumble he was talking like he was going to run for President, and hell, he's so charismatic and such a political thinker who knows how far he could have gone.
Convicted felons cant run for public office.
Bombardier 10-27-2005, 12:13 PM Convicted felons cant run for public office.
Interesting, well maybe he would have had his supporters pushing for a pardon. Or else he would have worked outside the political circles. We'll never know.
I know people say he's NOI so he's crazy but a lot of the crazier stuff that he said was in his youth. I think all of us said and did things in our early 20s that we wouldn't want to be made public.
Manny_P 10-27-2005, 12:32 PM P. Diddy.
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We astill have Michael Jordan also AND Tiger Woods
Parodius 10-27-2005, 01:35 PM We astill have Michael Jordan also AND Tiger WoodsHow about OJ. Simpson.
!! Anorak 10-27-2005, 03:32 PM Just reading his latest book "Soul of a Butterfly". Sad news indeed.
JohnL 10-27-2005, 04:17 PM We should never forget the price fighters pay for our vicarious
enjoyment. Even the greatest was not immune. But he has fought Parkinson's with the same kind of courage he displayed in the ring and in the fight for civil rights.
PS
Someone said in this thread that convicted felons can't run for office. Ali's conviction on charges of draft evasion was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court.
Dempsey 1919 11-01-2005, 05:42 PM that is sad. he is the greatest, and when he goes he will definetely be missed.
Mike Tyson Jr. 11-01-2005, 05:44 PM this is sad news. he will always be in the
top 3 greatest of all time.
buff_mike10 11-01-2005, 05:51 PM this is sad news. he will always be in the
top 3 greatest of all time.
Who do you think are two fighters better than he was, i know Tyson is one, but who do you think the other is?
Mike Tyson Jr. 11-01-2005, 05:52 PM Who do you think are two fighters better than he was, i know Tyson is one, but who do you think the other is?
1. Tyson
2. Foreman
3. ALI
sad news man, wish they had a cure, sad indeed sad :(
Parody 11-01-2005, 07:03 PM How about OJ. Simpson.
get out.....
RODHOOK 11-13-2008, 01:18 AM three-time Former Heavyweight Champion Muhammad Ali Seems To Be Losing His Battle With Parkinson's, His Daughter Laila Told The Los Angeles Times.
Ali, 63, Has Struggled With Parkinson's Symptoms For Years. But Recently, The Incurable Movement Disorder Seems To Be Taking A Greater Toll.
"i Feel Like The Disease Is Progressing," She Said. "different Things Start Happening As You Get Older. I Have Noticed A Change In Him, Something That Goes Along With Parkinson's.
"it's Painful For Me Because I Would Love To Sit Down And Talk To My Dad About The Way He Used To Be When He Was My Age, When He Was In His Prime, Because We Are So Much Alike. I Can't Really Do That. I Can't Share A Lot Of Things With Him."
According To The Parkinson Disease Foundation's Web Site, The Affliction Occurs When Certain Brain Cells Malfunction And Die. The Afflicted Have Trouble Receiving And Executing Messages From The Brain Telling The Body How To Initiate And Control Movement. Symptoms Continue And Worsen Over Time. There Is No Known Cause.
Some Think Ali's Affliction Was Caused By The Accumulation Of Punches Absorbed Over The Years.
Medication And Surgery Can Treat The Symptoms. Ali Is One Of Approximately One Million Americans Thought To Suffer From Parkinson's.
Laila Ali, 27, Is In Her Sixth Year As A Pro Boxer. She's 21-0 With 18 Knockouts. She Has More Of A Chance To Bond With Her Father Now Than When She Was Younger, As Ali Divorced Her Mother Veronica Porche When Laila Was Eight Years Old.
Once One Of The More Quotable Celebrities, Ali Today Is Mostly Silent, His Daughter Said.
"we Don't Talk About Boxing," She Told The Times. "he Might Come To A Fight And Say, 'you're Bad.' But He Was Never One To Talk Much About Boxing With Us. That Was Not Him. And He Doesn't Talk Much These Days Anyway. It Takes Him Too Much Energy To Talk.
"he Has His Good Days And His Bad Days. He's Taking A Lot Of Different Medications. Sometimes, His Speech Is So Slurred, You Can't Hardly Understand Him. But He Definitely Knows What's Going On. That's For Sure. He Sees Everything."
Her Father Feels "like He's Trapped Inside His Body. He Can Think. He Has Things He Wants To Say, But His Lips Sometimes Just Don't Move To Get It Out," Said His Daughter, Who Lives In Los Angeles.
"he's Just Taking Life Easy. He Likes Doing Simple Things. He Loves To Draw, He Likes To Color, He Likes To Clip Pictures Out Of Magazines. And He Likes To Do Magic Tricks. It Doesn't Take A Whole Lot To Keep Him Entertained. But His Attention Span Is Very Short When The Subject Is Something More Than That.
"he Doesn't Feel Sorry For Himself, So It's Hard To Feel Sorry For Him."
Very Sad, When Other Kids Had Batman And Super Man As Their Hero,s, I Had
Mohamed Ali. The Greatest Heavy Weight Of All Time. We Will Not See Another Like Him In Our Life Time If Ever. He Always Remains In My Mind The Way He Was When He Beat The Best When The Best Were Incredibly Talented.
Smokin Joe ,big George ,ron Lyle, Ernie Shavers, Two Quarey,s, George Chuvalo, Jimmy Young,evangelista,cooper,liston On&on&and,on.
Rodhook
im just glad i was alive to see him die as weird as that sounds.
-Antonio- 11-13-2008, 01:30 AM im just glad i was alive to see him die as weird as that sounds.
Is he dead?!
JAB5239 11-13-2008, 01:36 AM 1. Tyson
2. Foreman
3. ALI
Bwaahaahaahaaa!!!! Tyson over Ali? And Foreman, a man Ali ko'd, over the greatest? Lmao! Its good to see you're consistent though. Your opinion has been **** for 3 years now. Congratulations!!:fest30:
Is he dead?!
no, but i have this hunch that he's gonna die before me
-Antonio- 11-13-2008, 01:51 AM no, but i have this hunch that he's gonna die before me
It's going to be crazy when he finally passes.
roundingace 11-13-2008, 02:01 AM Thoughts and prayers go out to his family. Gotta be hard to be able to do nothing but sit there and watch it happen. Will definitely be a sad day.
stefjonno1 11-13-2008, 02:01 AM Bwaahaahaahaaa!!!! Tyson over Ali? And Foreman, a man Ali ko'd, over the greatest? Lmao! Its good to see you're consistent though. Your opinion has been **** for 3 years now. Congratulations!!:fest30:
I agree, thats a joke.
Ali is the man. Im glad i got to spend 4 hours in the great mans company.
FLYBOY 11-13-2008, 10:32 AM this article is from 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2204577
Orgasmatron 11-13-2008, 10:54 AM This is good news for Tunney
p4pkingfloyd 11-13-2008, 10:57 AM This is good news for Tunney
:bottle::bottle:
this article is ****ing old anyway and he is still ok
robjr 11-13-2008, 10:58 AM sad to hear :(
fight_professor 11-13-2008, 11:00 AM Ali is a great man. His condition is sad to see. I hope he lives for awhile yet, and then enters paradise as God see's fit. He is the champ. Forever.
Madvillain 11-13-2008, 11:03 AM A three year old thread just got resurrected. http://www.twdforums.com/images/smilies/side.gif
LEFTYGUNZZ 11-13-2008, 11:35 AM Very few people in this world achieve greatness. He is one of them.
Greatness always comes at a dear cost just look what he ahd to pay to achieve it sir. Often we want to be rich famous and achieve greatness then when we have it we wish we could just liv enormal lives. Look at how many stars are followed and harrased by fans and paparazzi. It is crazy life that is. Ali fought a battle against the US Government, against racial indiffernces and most of all against time. he didn't know when to hang em up and call it quits. The truth is that we the fans probably would have never wanted him too either. I read stories and saw interviews where Dundee said he was taking what Ali told him were vitamins and they were actually pills for the disease he has today. he was still fighting with the disease he has right now for god knows how long he had been diagnosed and kept on fighting. That disease kills all your motor skills and he was still fighting while he had it.....Lefty
CaRnAgEViOLaToR 11-13-2008, 11:43 AM ali is the greatest athlete to me
MELLY-MEL... 11-13-2008, 11:48 AM that is disheartening. poor guy. it is such ashame.
stefjonno1 11-13-2008, 01:00 PM I read stories and saw interviews where Dundee said he was taking what Ali told him were vitamins and they were actually pills for the disease he has today. he was still fighting with the disease he has right now for god knows how long he had been diagnosed and kept on fighting. That disease kills all your motor skills and he was still fighting while he had it.....Lefty
Yep all you have to do is watch interviews before his last two fights, its clear to see that the disease was present.
What a warrior he was.
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