View Full Version : Belfort Injured, Wandy to replace him vs Cung Le


kaps
09-21-2011, 01:34 PM
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MARKBNLV
09-21-2011, 02:14 PM
I got Wand in this one Cung Lee had problems with a dshot to sht Shamrock.

Big BRICKS
09-21-2011, 03:36 PM
KTFO incoming, one way or another.

Rooting for Wanderlei though, as always

:boxing:

dan_cov
09-21-2011, 03:42 PM
Wandy is shot to ****, his punch resistance has gone completely.

I don't think this fights making it out the first round tbh.

I'll go with Cung Le via K.O/T.K.O in 1.

dan_cov
09-21-2011, 03:45 PM
I think but do not quote me on it but I think a fairly safe bet would be this fight will be K.O of the night.

ƒallenloki
09-21-2011, 04:20 PM
Another KO loss for Wanderlei. :(

That's not to say Cung is great by any stretch, it's just that Silva is done. DONE. He's been done since Dan Henderson KHTFO

ƒallenloki
09-21-2011, 04:27 PM
Allow me to explain my prediction a bit more.

Cung Le has never really been outclassed on the feet. He's been hurt and eventually knocked out but that's more of a gas issue. He usually looks great on the feet for about 1.5 rounds. I really don't see Silva being able to withstand any shots Cung lands on him.

-Swizzy-
09-21-2011, 04:48 PM
can't believe anyone would pic Wand in this fight.

Cung Le by first minute KO.

F l i c k e r
09-21-2011, 04:49 PM
Originally a touch match up. Now an easy one.


Wandy gets put to sleep.... again. :pat: :nonono:

$BloodyNate$
09-21-2011, 04:52 PM
The good thing here is Cung Le isn't a huge puncher so I don't know if he can get rid of Wandy like that, so I definitely would sleep on Wandy though, he eats those lil asians for breakfest lunch and dinner!

ƒallenloki
09-21-2011, 05:23 PM
I smell a bit coming on Nate...

What do you say? I'll take Cung Le for 20 milly

Monte Fisto
09-21-2011, 06:03 PM
Originally a touch match up. Now an easy one.


Wandy gets put to sleep.... again. :pat: :nonono:

The good thing here is Cung Le isn't a huge puncher so I don't know if he can get rid of Wandy like that, so I definitely would sleep on Wandy though, he eats those lil asians for breakfest lunch and dinner!Vitor would've gotten his @ss handed to him if he ended up fighting Cung. Vitor's best asset was his hand speed, which left him years ago. He doesn't possess any great striking skills. Cung would treat him like a Muay Thai Banana bag.

Wanderlei is a wild gun slinger, sometimes it is that type of brawler who give major fits to highly skilled strikers like Cung. I don't know what type of shape Cung is in, but, I like Cung over Wanderlei.

I think this is the fight where we might finally see Cung take someone's head off with his spinning back kick or side kick. When Wanderlei gets tagged, his knee jerk reaction is to go wild with the hooks, that will be open season for Cung to drop the nastiest and deadliest kick combos we've ever seen in the cage.

Dorian
09-21-2011, 11:12 PM
Why is this loser(Wandy) still in the UFC? Seriously..

jaded
09-21-2011, 11:27 PM
Why is this loser(Wandy) still in the UFC? Seriously..

might be because he is a legend in the sport and a lot of people still want to see him.

ƒallenloki
09-22-2011, 03:20 AM
Why is this loser(Wandy) still in the UFC? Seriously..

Son, show some god damn respect.

Big BRICKS
09-22-2011, 04:31 AM
Why is this loser(Wandy) still in the UFC? Seriously..

Dorian, you rat bastard.

GreatestIam
09-22-2011, 05:55 AM
Wandys a ****ing bum now.. Cung by 1st rd KO, jst like Wandys last opponent did him!!!

Squezze
09-22-2011, 11:21 AM
Gotta go with Cung Le. Sadly, Silva's chin is shot. Even though Silva has gotta be the hardest puncher that Le has ever fought, so there's a chance that Silva could KO him, but in a slugfest, Le is gonna land at least a couple shots, and that's about all you need to KO Silva these days.

Big BRICKS
09-22-2011, 12:24 PM
Wanderlei's chin is no longer, but Cung Le's chin never existed in the first place.

$BloodyNate$
09-22-2011, 04:54 PM
I smell a bit coming on Nate...

What do you say? I'll take Cung Le for 20 milly

Deal!

Vitor would've gotten his @ss handed to him if he ended up fighting Cung. Vitor's best asset was his hand speed, which left him years ago. He doesn't possess any great striking skills. Cung would treat him like a Muay Thai Banana bag.

Wanderlei is a wild gun slinger, sometimes it is that type of brawler who give major fits to highly skilled strikers like Cung. I don't know what type of shape Cung is in, but, I like Cung over Wanderlei.

I think this is the fight where we might finally see Cung take someone's head off with his spinning back kick or side kick. When Wanderlei gets tagged, his knee jerk reaction is to go wild with the hooks, that will be open season for Cung to drop the nastiest and deadliest kick combos we've ever seen in the cage.

hahaha are you serious? No speed anymore? Why don't you try telling that to Rich franklin & Sexyama fool. That is the more ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Not to mention he didn't get dominated by Anderson, he was actually doing pretty good until that crazy ass kick.

Le has no power, Belfort would have put his ass to sleep. Wandy will too. le can't punch at all, and Wandy has only dropped to some of the biggest punchers in MMA history, Franklin hits harder then Le, and Wandy has sick muay thai your drawlin' if you think le's gonna school him with kicks.

KingOne
09-22-2011, 10:45 PM
Why is this loser(Wandy) still in the UFC? Seriously..

you're serious?!? cung is overrated at all (as a mixed martial artist), i wouldn't be surprised if wandy takes this one.

Monte Fisto
09-24-2011, 01:49 AM
Deal!



1)That ishahaha are you serious? No speed anymore? Why don't you try telling that to Rich franklin & Sexyama fool.

2) he didn't get dominated by Anderson, he was actually doing pretty good until that crazy ass kick.

3)Le has no power, Belfort would have put his ass to sleep. Wandy will too. le can't punch at all, and Wandy has only dropped to some of the biggest punchers in MMA history,

4) Franklin hits harder then Le, and Wandy has sick muay thai your drawlin' if you think le's gonna school him with kicks.LMAO, You have no f**kin' clue what you're talkin' 'bout. Le may very well lose this fight. But, the crap you're spewin' is complete ignorance, lmao


1) What does Sexyama and Franklin have to do w/ Cung ? Anyway, Cung is lightyears ahead of Sexyama and Franklin in the striking dept.

2) Motherf**ker, what fight were you watchin', Vitor wasn't doin' sh*t and then got KO'd by a f**kin' front kick, lmao. Cung's side kick is way harder than any Silva front kick.

3) Okay, Le's fist may not be sh*t compared to the fighters Wanderlei has fought, but, none of those guys are nowhere near Cung's kicking ability. Le ain't stupid, he knows what got him to this stage of the fight game. It's nothin' but side kicks and spinning back kicks to Silva's midsection and hips all night long.. Hell, it may not even take all night. Silva's sloppy striking might do him in with Cung's great kicking ability

4)Lol, at Wanderlei having sick Muay Thai kicks, lmao. Outside of a "kicker's chance'' Cung has fought/sparred guys w/ much better Muay Thai than Wanderlei.


The biggest question I'm really interested in finding out is how Cung will deal with Wanderlei's size and strength.

F l i c k e r
09-24-2011, 01:58 AM
Spinning back heel KO anyone?


I bet Cung Le uses every kick possible in this match. Just like he did against Frank. :lol1:

$BloodyNate$
09-24-2011, 03:41 AM
LMAO, You have no f**kin' clue what you're talkin' 'bout. Le may very well lose this fight. But, the crap you're spewin' is complete ignorance, lmao


1) What does Sexyama and Franklin have to do w/ Cung ? Anyway, Cung is lightyears ahead of Sexyama and Franklin in the striking dept.

2) Motherf**ker, what fight were you watchin', Vitor wasn't doin' sh*t and then got KO'd by a f**kin' front kick, lmao. Cung's side kick is way harder than any Silva front kick.

3) Okay, Le's fist may not be sh*t compared to the fighters Wanderlei has fought, but, none of those guys are nowhere near Cung's kicking ability. Le ain't stupid, he knows what got him to this stage of the fight game. It's nothin' but side kicks and spinning back kicks to Silva's midsection and hips all night long.. Hell, it may not even take all night. Silva's sloppy striking might do him in with Cung's great kicking ability

4)Lol, at Wanderlei having sick Muay Thai kicks, lmao. Outside of a "kicker's chance'' Cung has fought/sparred guys w/ much better Muay Thai than Wanderlei.


The biggest question I'm really interested in finding out is how Cung will deal with Wanderlei's size and strength.

You were saying Belfort doesn't have as much speed or power anymore jackass haha and dont even try to bust on Franklin people are so retarded to forget if he didnt go up to 205 hed still be the 2nd best middleweight, only other person with an arguement was hendo. He went to 205 since he kill all silvas challengers. Until Belfort came along.

Who the hell has Le beat besides Frank Shamrock well past his prime. Prime Frank is an arguable top 25 MMA fighter EVER, he made Prime Tito tap and went to war with heavyweight champ bas rutten, but other then that who? scott smith? He hasn't beaten anybody near Wandys ability. Past Pime Shamrock vs Wandy would be a sick fight, but Frank wouldnt smash him at this point either. This fight is alot closer then you think, Wandy went to war with prime cro cop twice, and mark hunt who he arguably beat, both former K-1 kickboxers.

wANDY never been ko'd by somebody like Le. Just heavier strikers like Hendo, Leben, Rampage, Cro Cop, and Belfort. All who would make Cung Le their person biitch.

BritishBoxing92
09-24-2011, 07:22 AM
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why not make something like leben vs cung le atleast it would be competitive and leben is coming of a win hes not 2-6 in his fight throw in silva who is coming of a 27 second first round ko loss? silvas punch resistance has been gone since his fight with filipovic in pride 06 japan? its sad to see silva who was once feared and recognised as a man not to mess with he went from this

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to this...

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sad really...

Monte Fisto
09-24-2011, 01:07 PM
You were saying Belfort doesn't have as much speed or power anymore jackass haha and dont even try to bust on Franklin people are so retarded to forget if he didnt go up to 205 hed still be the 2nd best middleweight, only other person with an arguement was hendo. He went to 205 since he kill all silvas challengers. Until Belfort came along.

Who the hell has Le beat besides Frank Shamrock well past his prime. Prime Frank is an arguable top 25 MMA fighter EVER, he made Prime Tito tap and went to war with heavyweight champ bas rutten, but other then that who? scott smith?

Past Pime Shamrock vs Wandy would be a sick fight, but Frank wouldnt smash him at this point either. This fight is alot closer then you think, Wandy went to war with prime cro cop twice, and mark hunt who he arguably beat, both former K-1 kickboxers.


wANDY never been ko'd by somebody like Le.

Just heavier strikers like Hendo, Leben, Rampage, Cro Cop, and Belfort. All who would make Cung Le their person biitch.

I could careless about you bringing up Franklin, Belfort and the rest of Wanderlei's past opposition. The fact remains, none of those guys have the kicking ability Cung brings to the table, not a single one of 'em comes close. Sure, guys like Hunt and Cro Cop are much more powerful kickers simply due to size, hell, maybe even Leben's roundhouse is harder than Cung's.

You bringing up Shamrock being way past prime when he fought Cung. Well, what do you think Cung is, some spring chicken ?

#1 Cung aint in his prime either, he's well past it. The f**ker is 40 years old and fighting in a division fighting naturally larger guys.

#2 Cung didn't bring nowhere near the cage experience Shamrock had when they fought.

- Cung's really just a part-time 40year old MMA fighter(a rookie in the cage when comparing the experience of others), but was able to school and physically breakdown one the most experienced MMA fighters out there in Shamrock

#3 The fact that Wanderlei has been KO'd by punches(albeit by some of the hardest strikers P4P MMA has seen) tells us that he's susceptible and has lots of defensive flaws. Well, Cung is bringing an all-around kicking game he ain't never seen, CroCop, Hunt, ain't got nothing on Cung when it comes to kickboxing, lmao.

#4 Cung's ground game, although untested in actual fights, but has alot of experience in it, rolled with some of the best and the best say he hangs with them.

Like I said before, Wandy's size and strength maybe the only factors needed to beat Cung. But, I see so many holes in Wandy's offense and defense when on his feet, and a world-class striker like Cung can definitely exploit.

Cung might not pack a punch like Hendo, but, he knows how to mix up his punches with his kicks, something Hendo, Belfort, etc.. can never do !

$BloodyNate$
09-24-2011, 02:30 PM
I could careless about you bringing up Franklin, Belfort and the rest of Wanderlei's past opposition. The fact remains, none of those guys have the kicking ability Cung brings to the table, not a single one of 'em comes close. Sure, guys like Hunt and Cro Cop are much more powerful kickers simply due to size, hell, maybe even Leben's roundhouse is harder than Cung's.

You bringing up Shamrock being way past prime when he fought Cung. Well, what do you think Cung is, some spring chicken ?

#1 Cung aint in his prime either, he's well past it. The f**ker is 40 years old and fighting in a division fighting naturally larger guys.

#2 Cung didn't bring nowhere near the cage experience Shamrock had when they fought.

- Cung's really just a part-time 40year old MMA fighter(a rookie in the cage when comparing the experience of others), but was able to school and physically breakdown one the most experienced MMA fighters out there in Shamrock

#3 The fact that Wanderlei has been KO'd by punches(albeit by some of the hardest strikers P4P MMA has seen) tells us that he's susceptible and has lots of defensive flaws. Well, Cung is bringing an all-around kicking game he ain't never seen, CroCop, Hunt, ain't got nothing on Cung when it comes to kickboxing, lmao.

#4 Cung's ground game, although untested in actual fights, but has alot of experience in it, rolled with some of the best and the best say he hangs with them.

Like I said before, Wandy's size and strength maybe the only factors needed to beat Cung. But, I see so many holes in Wandy's offense and defense when on his feet, and a world-class striker like Cung can definitely exploit.

Cung might not pack a punch like Hendo, but, he knows how to mix up his punches with his kicks, something Hendo, Belfort, etc.. can never do !

Thats what Im saying though Cung Le don't hit like them so its not an easy pick as some people think because of Wandy's chin. The fight that gives me confidence in Wandy is the Bisping fight since Bisping even though I don't like him is a pretty decent well versatile fighter, and when Wandy rushed him he could have finished him in 30 seconds if he tried. Just not sold on Cung Le's chin, he could squeek away a close war which I'm expecting this fight to be like Franklin, but Wandy hits hard so you can never count him out because he comes to fight. It's really his last stand so I expect him to come out to take Le's head off!

Monte Fisto
09-24-2011, 03:13 PM
Thats what Im saying though Cung Le don't hit like them so its not an easy pick as some people think because of Wandy's chin.

The fight that gives me confidence in Wandy is the Bisping fight since Bisping even though I don't like him is a pretty decent well versatile fighter, and when Wandy rushed him he could have finished him in 30 seconds if he tried. Just not sold on Cung Le's chin, he could squeek away a close war which I'm expecting this fight to be like Franklin, but Wandy hits hard so you can never count him out because he comes to fight. It's really his last stand so I expect him to come out to take Le's head off!Cung Le doesn't have the overhand of Hendo.
Cung Le does not have the left hook of Rampage.

Hendo and Rampage can barely pull off a roundhouse kick! Cung Le brings more than a roundhouse kick. Le's money kick is his side kick, add in the spinning back kick, spinning heel hook kick, etc..

Those weapons alone are enough to confuse Wanderlei, add in the punches and movement Le will bring. It's gonna be interesting.

That's the thing though, you keep bringing up the punching prowess of Rampage and Hendo and how they KTFO Silva. At the same time, the fact that one-dimensional powerful punchers was enough to beat Silva, and Le brings more than just one weapon, eventhough Silva is gonna be significantly stronger, and bigger is what's making me think Le has a decent shot at beating Wanderlei(for as long as the fight remains on the feet, lol)

I think Wanderlei should fight backing up moreso than usual, make the smaller Le come to him. Le's great at countering the opponent especially when they're attacking him.


If the fight goes to the ground or Wanderlei pins him on the cage, then it's gonna be big problems for Le.

$BloodyNate$
11-20-2011, 03:03 AM
Lmao funny thread....

Big BRICKS
11-20-2011, 08:38 AM
Lmao funny thread....

Come on Nate, they were only saying what everyone felt would probably happen. Cung was picking him apart in the first round. Either one of them could have easily been KOd in this fight. As a huge Wanderlei Silva fan I think he should retire or only continue to fight chinny kickboxers haha

Cung Le doesn't have the overhand of Hendo.
Cung Le does not have the left hook of Rampage.

Hendo and Rampage can barely pull off a roundhouse kick! Cung Le brings more than a roundhouse kick. Le's money kick is his side kick, add in the spinning back kick, spinning heel hook kick, etc..

Those weapons alone are enough to confuse Wanderlei, add in the punches and movement Le will bring. It's gonna be interesting.

That's the thing though, you keep bringing up the punching prowess of Rampage and Hendo and how they KTFO Silva. At the same time, the fact that one-dimensional powerful punchers was enough to beat Silva, and Le brings more than just one weapon, eventhough Silva is gonna be significantly stronger, and bigger is what's making me think Le has a decent shot at beating Wanderlei(for as long as the fight remains on the feet, lol)

I think Wanderlei should fight backing up moreso than usual, make the smaller Le come to him. Le's great at countering the opponent especially when they're attacking him.


If the fight goes to the ground or Wanderlei pins him on the cage, then it's gonna be big problems for Le.

Nice call on Wanderlei fighting outside. I thought he had a better chance to spark Le out while bull rushing him but Silva's camp must have planned to attack the cardio of Cung Le

Dice
11-20-2011, 12:42 PM
Come on Nate, they were only saying what everyone felt would probably happen. Cung was picking him apart in the first round. Either one of them could have easily been KOd in this fight. As a huge Wanderlei Silva fan I think he should retire or only continue to fight chinny kickboxers haha

Thats the thing, you just dont count out a legend with Rocks for fists, knees, and elbows.

I think he should retire but hes not, and even if he's the underdog in every fight nobody game the Axe Murderer any kind of respect.

Someone put the Leben fight up, Leben was about to get put to sleep like a second before he put Wand to sleep. Glass Chin or not one Wand punch can set up a bad ko.

Even Chuck Liddell can come back out of retirement and have a punchers chance to knock Jon Jones the fuk out because when your blessed with power that ***** doesnt leave. Not saying Chuck would ko Jones but he'd at least have a chance to do it, and thats what no one gave Wand, a chance, Big Nog must have been throwing back bottles of champagne celebrating

Anthony342
11-20-2011, 03:22 PM
You think Cung Le will have a chance to avenge this loss, like he did with the last one?

-Swizzy-
11-20-2011, 05:41 PM
well to be fair, Wand didn't fight like Wand in the 1st round. Had he fought like he usually does, Cung would have finished him. But Wand was actually smart this time and waited for Cung to get tired and then he reverted back to his old ways when cung's punches and kicks weren't as fast or powerful.

jaded
11-20-2011, 05:51 PM
Cung looked fat and out of shape...he gassed early.

Big BRICKS
11-20-2011, 05:56 PM
Thats the thing, you just dont count out a legend with Rocks for fists, knees, and elbows.

I think he should retire but hes not, and even if he's the underdog in every fight nobody game the Axe Murderer any kind of respect.

Someone put the Leben fight up, Leben was about to get put to sleep like a second before he put Wand to sleep. Glass Chin or not one Wand punch can set up a bad ko.

Even Chuck Liddell can come back out of retirement and have a punchers chance to knock Jon Jones the fuk out because when your blessed with power that ***** doesnt leave. Not saying Chuck would ko Jones but he'd at least have a chance to do it, and thats what no one gave Wand, a chance, Big Nog must have been throwing back bottles of champagne celebrating

I've put real money on almost every fight Wanderlei has had since I was probably 15 haha. I'll never count out my favorite fighter of all time, but he should retire.

Money Shot
11-20-2011, 09:21 PM
I think we'll see Belfort Wandy now, but I think Belfort's strikes will be too much for him to handle.

$BloodyNate$
11-20-2011, 11:17 PM
Come on Nate, they were only saying what everyone felt would probably happen. Cung was picking him apart in the first round. Either one of them could have easily been KOd in this fight. As a huge Wanderlei Silva fan I think he should retire or only continue to fight chinny kickboxers haha



Nice call on Wanderlei fighting outside. I thought he had a better chance to spark Le out while bull rushing him but Silva's camp must have planned to attack the cardio of Cung Le

Cung le did not pick anything apart in the first. Cung landed one nice shot to drop him Like monte said his versatle striking Like jon jones suprises people but wandy hurt him back at the end of the round. Close round. And i said le dont hit hard enough and he dont. Like i said, bisping vs wandy 2 but wandy finished him because the best he had to offer was kicks and besides cro cop rematch when cro cop was unstoppable in 06, when has kicks played apart in a wandy loss?

And fighting backwards WTF? Thats exactly sloppy terrible technique liddell outstruck him and why he didnt finish bisping because he wasnt aggressive. Its fight by fight. Going backwards works against le, woulda worked against leban, but going forward is how he hurt le too. Sadly belfort is probably next after he fights johnson. Johnson always pulls out too, wandy would probably replace him. He wont stop so i hope he wins another fight or 2. Hope he gets a bisping type schedule with easy winnable fights like miller, rivera, akiyama ect. Hate to see him lose.

IronBoxer
11-21-2011, 04:40 PM
Laughing at all the people who counted Wandy out. War Wanderlei!!