View Full Version : Hopkins VS Hagler
NiGe2011 09-19-2004, 03:51 AM There were many comparisons made between the two leading up to the Oscar-Bernard fight. However, I think it showed that they are very different styles of fighters- this begs the question: who do you think would win a fight between these two? I actually think that I am going to have to say that I would give the edge to Hopkins based on the fact that he is a little bit more well rounded with his boxing as well as his power...
Jiggaman6810 09-19-2004, 04:19 AM I would say this is a toss up but if i had to choose i would say BHOP by descion.
Sir_Jose 09-19-2004, 04:28 AM Its a toss up foreal
People dont really apricate Hopkins right now. Both of them are just really solid fighters that can pretty much fight in any style
I cant call it
Ranger2408 09-19-2004, 07:00 AM Its a toss up foreal
People dont really apricate Hopkins right now. Both of them are just really solid fighters that can pretty much fight in any style
I cant call it I would go for Hagler if i had to choose, he has the edge in chin and power
jack_the_rippuh 09-19-2004, 10:08 AM Hagler had a chin, but a chin can only get you so far...
Sir_Jose 09-19-2004, 02:54 PM Dont forget Bernard has a great chin also
mic573 09-19-2004, 03:15 PM This would of been a great fight. Hagler was strong, had a great chin, punching power and alot of heart. Hopkins though also has a great chin, is a strong fighter, alot of heart and has very good punching power. Bernard has very good boxing skills and would be faster than Hagler. This would be a close decision in my opinion. If Hopkins mixes his boxing skills with some good exchanges he can win a decision. If they go to war I would favor Hagler and if they fight in close throughout most of the fight I would go with Hagler but it would be close because Hopkins is a great inside fighter.
Palma 09-20-2004, 06:14 PM I believe that Hopkins is a great middleweight and that he will be recognized as one of the best in his particular weight class. Hagler, Hearns , Leonard and Duran all would have kicked the crap out him though. These four legends fought during the time when competition was at its best. The current middleweight division is so weak right now compared to what it used to be in the late seventies and mid eighties. I for one miss those glory days.
Hagler by points win, unless Bernard got on his bicycle
Syd Barrett 09-20-2004, 08:59 PM Hagler by KO.
jabsRstiff 09-23-2004, 12:47 PM Hagler had a chin, but a chin can only get you so far...
Kid....you ain't seen much boxing, have you ?
Marvin Hagler's right jab is one of the greatest jabs (not just a right jab, but all jabs) in the history of boxing.
His combinations could be beautiful at times, & when someone pressed him, he showed excellent all around boxing skills.
Offensively, Hagler was superior to Hopkins....better power, better combos, could fire from all angles.
Hopkins was craftier than Hagler, & better defensively.
Hopkins has a great chin, though not as great as Hagler's.
It wouldn't matter, because neither is getting knocked out.
I'd say Hagler pulls out a close decision after a brilliantly fought, close affair.
Verbl_Kint 09-25-2004, 05:33 PM I would have to say that Hagler had more savvy in the ring and has better ringsmarts than B-Hop. In fact, Hagler can fight without anybody in his corner telling him what needed to be done.
m00ks 09-25-2004, 05:59 PM Kid....you ain't seen much boxing, have you ?
Marvin Hagler's right jab is one of the greatest jabs (not just a right jab, but all jabs) in the history of boxing.
His combinations could be beautiful at times, & when someone pressed him, he showed excellent all around boxing skills.
Offensively, Hagler was superior to Hopkins....better power, better combos, could fire from all angles.
Hopkins was craftier than Hagler, & better defensively.
Hopkins has a great chin, though not as great as Hagler's.
It wouldn't matter, because neither is getting knocked out.
I'd say Hagler pulls out a close decision after a brilliantly fought, close affair.
I agree. Also if B-Hop work inside, this is a guy who can actually beat him at it.
oldgringo 09-27-2004, 12:52 AM Is there anyone who could hurt Hagler? Hagler walks through everything Hop throws at him and wins by late KO. We have never seen Hop get physically punished and that's exactly what Hagler would do to him. It would be a great fight through about 9-10 rounds however.
Hagler vs. Hopkins. WOW! This is a tough one. Both have real champions' heart, solid chins, skills and power.
Chin - Hagler's been tested by heavy hitters like Mugabi, Roldan and Hearns. B Hop took some clean punches from RJJ too. Even.
Skills/Styles - Hagler can easily switch stances, basically a counterpuncher but he can box as well. B Hop's thrives in phone booth brawls and can be devastating from medium range as well. Hagler.
Power - Hagler.
Defense - Hopkins.
IMO Hagler coming in to brawl or counterpunch would fit B Hop's style, but if he decides to box - it could go his way. Styles makes fights.
Dynamite76 10-04-2004, 05:32 PM Definitely Hagler by Ko.Fought tougher competition.
marvdave 10-04-2004, 08:40 PM This is definitely the argument for 15 round fights. What a great bout ths would be. It would be very technical the first half of the fight. Both Hagler and Hopkins are underrated in the Boxing skill department. I see my man Hagler wearing down Hopkins and winning by decision or maybe late round tko. The punishment would go both ways.
duxstar 10-26-2004, 01:58 AM I have to say hagler, he was a mean beast, and i think he would've had more heart in the fight. Like Hagler knows not to trust the judges, so he would go out and straight FIGHT to win, not by decision, but fight to get the win without judges, meanwhile hops is liable to sit back and fight a boxing match and win based on points. I say Hagler KO's Hopkins in the 12th round. Hops has heart, but from what i've seen from hagler he has more.
kevvy1979 10-31-2004, 05:14 PM Hagler by Ko 6th round
Prorock 11-10-2004, 12:50 AM My opinion: Hopkins W12 (SD).
dodge 11-13-2004, 09:23 AM Hopkins by TKO 7
Hopkins by TKO 7
Man, you don't know nothing about boxing yet you keep posting this shit for months. Before you disrespect Marvelous Marvin like this I'd recommand to watch some of his prime fights.
I can see why some people believe it'd be a though fight and I wont disagree. But Bernard Hopkins is just ot quite Marvins class. He hasn't fought his kind of opponents with his kind of superior strength. Marvin outclasses Bernard in every part of the game. He's the better boxer, the better slugger, he has more power, he's faster, he has the better jab, the better chin, a bigger offensive arsenal, more expierence in fighting top class fighters, etc.
If a prime Hopkins boxed around 1975-1985 he wouldn't be looked upon an all time great as he'd have more then troubles against the likes of Bennie Briscoe, Willie Monroe, Vito Antuofermo, Mustafa Hamsho, Roberto Durán, Thomas Hearns and John Mugabi. But that's just my opinion.
Boxhead2012 03-12-2005, 02:39 AM Marvin Hagler...no question
dodge 03-12-2005, 02:45 AM Man, you don't know nothing about boxing yet you keep posting this shit for months. Before you disrespect Marvelous Marvin like this I'd recommand to watch some of his prime fights.
I can see why some people believe it'd be a though fight and I wont disagree. But Bernard Hopkins is just ot quite Marvins class. He hasn't fought his kind of opponents with his kind of superior strength. Marvin outclasses Bernard in every part of the game. He's the better boxer, the better slugger, he has more power, he's faster, he has the better jab, the better chin, a bigger offensive arsenal, more expierence in fighting top class fighters, etc.
If a prime Hopkins boxed around 1975-1985 he wouldn't be looked upon an all time great as he'd have more then troubles against the likes of Bennie Briscoe, Willie Monroe, Vito Antuofermo, Mustafa Hamsho, Roberto Durán, Thomas Hearns and John Mugabi. But that's just my opinion.
Dude, you don't know anything either so stop trying to pretend like you do. ;)
oldgringo 03-12-2005, 04:46 AM Dude, you don't know anything either so stop trying to pretend like you do. ;)
I agree. Saying Hopkins by TKO 7 is ****ing ludicrous....however, I dont agree with the last part of dudes post. hopkins would stack up against any era of middles. Hagler would beat Hopkins in the championship rounds.
dodge 03-12-2005, 05:06 AM I agree. Saying Hopkins by TKO 7 is ****ing ludicrous....however, I dont agree with the last part of dudes post. hopkins would stack up against any era of middles. Hagler would beat Hopkins in the championship rounds.
Thanx ol' gringo. You rock man
oldgringo 03-12-2005, 11:39 AM Sorry...i should elaborate so as not to insult El Duderino. I don't agree that Dude knows nothing about boxing...I agree that that last part of his post is crazy. (the not being looked upon as an all time great) ;)
dodge 03-12-2005, 06:51 PM Sorry...i should elaborate so as not to insult El Duderino. I don't agree that Dude knows nothing about boxing...I agree that that last part of his post is crazy. (the not being looked upon as an all time great) ;)
Yea, I made that post a long time ago. It's hard for me to say who wins this one when I think about it now.
Boxhead2012 03-15-2005, 11:35 PM Hagler...no doubt
OliverNo1 03-21-2005, 02:27 AM Hagler - Late stoppage.
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