View Full Version : Beating Rahman Proves Nothing For Klitschko


Rick Reeno
10-23-2005, 04:02 AM
One can choose to believe the hype of the upcoming heavyweight showdown between WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko and Hasim Rahman, or they can see through the fog created by the promotional spin-doctors.

Rahman is being built up as the biggest threat that Klitschko has ever faced since winning the WBC title, but that is not saying much when accounting his less than stellar opponents. Most fight fans find it very frustrating to watch the string of less than appealing bouts which Klitschko has taken to follow-up his gutsy performance against Lennox Lewis.

It is an embarrassment to the sport when powerhouse media outlets like HBO and Ring Magazine try to shove Klitschko down our throats as the 'real' heavyweight champion of the division.

How is it that the longest reigning heavyweight champion, Chris Byrd, who holds a TKO victory over Klitschko, is not considered the true champion of the division? Is beating a grossly overweight Kirk Johnson, a fat Danny Williams and a part-time golfer in Corrie Sanders more impressive than beating Jameel McCline, DaVarryl Williamson and a hard fought draw with Andrew Golota? [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=2239)]

abdiel2k3
10-23-2005, 04:22 AM
actually he is the biggest risk out there
everyone else hes beaten
or most assume hell beat
rahmans only chance is to do what he did to lennox
one hitter quitter

BIGPOPPAPUMP
10-23-2005, 05:12 AM
Hell No! You must have been drinking tonight. The biggest risk out there? Bigger than Brewster or Peter or Brock? Rahman's only big win was an upset over a glass jaw Lewis. Vitali has a solid iron chin and Rahman is not that big of a puncher. All of this equals to Rahman lasting under 6 rounds.

leff
10-23-2005, 07:23 AM
vk should fight byrd, but byrd seems scared.

brewster would also be a better opponent to beat than rahman.

Manny_P
10-23-2005, 09:15 AM
exactly. If I was Vitali, tis should be a tune up or COME BACK kinda fight to prepare fo betta things like a fight wit Brewster or and unification out thurrr.

Ukr_Alex
10-23-2005, 11:47 AM
I agree, but this Doctor brought his point across looking like a Vitali hater. Needs to learn how to write an article withouht looking like an ass ;)

Enayze
10-23-2005, 12:15 PM
The writer of this article is an ass, Vitali tried to get a fight with Toney and Brewster, but Don King and WBC wouldn't let him, telling he must wait to fight his mandatory.

`STEELHEAD
10-23-2005, 12:51 PM
I agree, but this Doctor brought his point across looking like a Vitali hater. Needs to learn how to write an article withouht looking like an ass ;)

sfd this doctor stated the facts. just because he didnt kiss v's sorry ass and list all the nutthuggers excuses of why klit looses doesnt make him a klit hater.

Ukr_Alex
10-23-2005, 01:13 PM
sfd this doctor stated the facts. just because he didnt kiss v's sorry ass and list all the nutthuggers excuses of why klit looses doesnt make him a klit hater.

When one writes an article one should not show any bias ;) One should "state the facts" and elaborate. After reading the first few sentences I got the feeling like this guy doesnt like Vitali. I dont care if he likes him or not, but your not supposed to show it. Clearly that article is there to bring a point across, now if someone reads that and see's that this guy clearly dislikes the Klitschkos do you think he will take it seriously? Ofcourse not. ;)

Hence I dont like reading boxing articles when the author is either a nuthugger or a hater, it's not professional. ;)

BIGPOPPAPUMP
10-23-2005, 01:54 PM
When one writes an article one should not show any bias ;) One should "state the facts" and elaborate. After reading the first few sentences I got the feeling like this guy doesnt like Vitali. I dont care if he likes him or not, but your not supposed to show it. Clearly that article is there to bring a point across, now if someone reads that and see's that this guy clearly dislikes the Klitschkos do you think he will take it seriously? Ofcourse not. ;)

Hence I dont like reading boxing articles when the author is either a nuthugger or a hater, it's not professional. ;)

I may be mistaken, but you sir are the one that is biased. If you read the article carefully, he never really takes shots as Vitali as a fighter, just his level of competition and how Wladimir has still accomplished more in his career. In reality, he picks Rahman apart more than anyone. He stated the facts, and rather than try to give your take on the facts you write that he must not like Vitali. You must not read articles that carefully because he clearly praises Wladimir several times in the article so how does he "clearly" dislike the Klitschkos.

RAESAAD
10-23-2005, 01:57 PM
So when Rahman KOs him it won't mean nothing either...... ;)

BIGPOPPAPUMP
10-23-2005, 02:08 PM
So when Rahman KOs him it won't mean nothing either...... ;)

Everyone seems to base that idea on what he did against Lewis. Klitschko is not a glass jawed fighter like Lewis.

RAESAAD
10-23-2005, 02:20 PM
Everyone seems to base that idea on what he did against Lewis. Klitschko is not a glass jawed fighter like Lewis.
Lewis is not glass jawed.....he has taken some good shots from good HWs...he was KOed twice by punches that would have KOed most HWs including VK he is not ironed chinned who has hit him as hard as McCall or Rahman hit Lewis??Nobody and if Rahman gets lucky enough to land that punch he landed on Lewis VK will be sleeping like a baby too.I am not saying Rahman is great or anything but he is decent and should give VK his best challenge since Lewis IMO.

Tha Greatest
10-23-2005, 02:23 PM
I read half the article...

Then when he started to say Chris Byrd should be the real heavyweight champion, I stopped reading. It's biased IMO.

but I agree, Rahman is a overrated joke.

Enayze
10-23-2005, 02:52 PM
Lewis is not glass jawed.....he has taken some good shots from good HWs...he was KOed twice by punches that would have KOed most HWs including VK he is not ironed chinned who has hit him as hard as McCall or Rahman hit Lewis??Nobody and if Rahman gets lucky enough to land that punch he landed on Lewis VK will be sleeping like a baby too.I am not saying Rahman is great or anything but he is decent and should give VK his best challenge since Lewis IMO.


Punches that KOed Lewis would never in your dream world KO Vitali. Vitali already suffered harder punches than the ones Lewis got knocked out by.

Southpaw16
10-23-2005, 03:53 PM
James Toney, Sam Peter, Wlad Klitschko, and John Ruiz are all bigger threats to beat Vitali than Rahman. I don't want to see Ruiz versus Klitshko, but Ruiz did beat Rahman, and his mauling style may give Vitali hell since Vitali doesn't move well at all.

Looking at Rahman versus Barrett, all I saw from Rahman was a hard jab and hard straight right hand. No good hooks or uppercuts, no good defense and pretty mediocre footwork. I don't see any evidence that he could beat Klitcshko. Keep in mind that Rahman has lost to the OLD version of Evander Holyfield, that is pretty bad.

blockhead
10-23-2005, 04:03 PM
The writer of this article is an ass, Vitali tried to get a fight with Toney and Brewster, but Don King and WBC wouldn't let him, telling he must wait to fight his mandatory.
i dont see why *****ko would want to fight guys that he knows will beat him easily.

Leo Pradun
10-23-2005, 07:18 PM
The writer of this article is an ass, Vitali tried to get a fight with Toney and Brewster, but Don King and WBC wouldn't let him, telling he must wait to fight his mandatory.
right, this dude who made the article is and idiot because he forgets that Rahman is Vitalis mandatory and Vitali must fight him, someone should tell him that...

Leo Pradun
10-23-2005, 07:22 PM
i dont see why *****ko would want to fight guys that he knows will beat him easily.
new nickname for u dickhead.....

RAESAAD
10-23-2005, 07:37 PM
Punches that KOed Lewis would never in your dream world KO Vitali. Vitali already suffered harder punches than the ones Lewis got knocked out by.
NO.....he did not name one?

Parody
10-23-2005, 08:43 PM
NO.....he did not name one?

Dude let these people Prais Vitarded Quitsko...when he quits on his stool or gets a cut or gets knock the **** down then these people are gonna realise, Rahman is really strong has power and is active when Vitali hasnt been active for more than 1 year in the ring,Rahman has been active 4 times this year.

Moon
10-23-2005, 11:16 PM
This article is a good factual account of the current Heavy scene. After everything is said by supporters of both Rahman and Klitchko, the outcome of this fight will do nothing to help cement Vitali's claim as the true Champ, nor would a Rahman win suddenly make him the #1 guy at Heavy.

BLOODSHED
10-24-2005, 12:46 AM
Great article. Probably the best article Ive read in the last two years, easily.

BLOODSHED
10-24-2005, 12:53 AM
Amen to that.
I may be mistaken, but you sir are the one that is biased. If you read the article carefully, he never really takes shots as Vitali as a fighter, just his level of competition and how Wladimir has still accomplished more in his career. In reality, he picks Rahman apart more than anyone. He stated the facts, and rather than try to give your take on the facts you write that he must not like Vitali. You must not read articles that carefully because he clearly praises Wladimir several times in the article so how does he "clearly" dislike the Klitschkos.