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RwK
10-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Where in the hell did Tito get his power from?


http://images.supersport.co.za/TrinidadFelixCelebrates11052002Abg.jpg

Im serious. I dont get it. The guy is skinny to say the least....and he did not catch everyone on the end of his punches.

Weird.

Dirt E Gomez
10-21-2005, 10:05 PM
Are you suggesting it's the mystery of the hand wraps? Throwing a good punch isn't all about muscle and there is form to it. But I do agree, he packs a punch for being relatively stringy.

Truth
10-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Tito doesn't look like a big puncher, but its the perfect example of don't judge a book by its cover.

RwK
10-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Are you suggesting it's the mystery of the hand wraps? Throwing a good punch isn't all about muscle and there is form to it. But I do agree, he packs a punch for being relatively stringy.

haha, no.....I'm actually serious. Where does he get his power from?

He is one of the hardest punchers I have ever seen next to Iron Mike Tyson.

Calabrese
10-21-2005, 10:07 PM
I don't really know. He's not a physical specimen some people just have a knack for punching though.

ELPacman
10-21-2005, 10:11 PM
He must have a high metabolism. He eats a lot, thus he has a lot of fat on him, though can work out, which gives him added strength to that fat. It's almost like being punched by a fat person with a small person's body. At least this is what I believe. Aside from that though, it really does have to do with form. The way you plant your feet and twist your body with the punch. Small details that you don't really notice though the guy throwing the power punch does.

RwK
10-21-2005, 10:17 PM
I don't really know. He's not a physical specimen some people just have a knack for punching though.

Yeah....thats what I am beginning to think. Look at all the people he knocked out.

Joppy

Tito was the only person to ever stop him and he made it look easy. William's chin was granite and still is IMO.

Mayorga

His chin is I suppose excellent. I dont like the guy, but I will give him that due.


Hugo Pineda

It took KT like untill the last round to stop him, and Tito once again made it look easy in four rounds.

Troy Waters

Tough guy who was only stopped by Terrible Terry in the early rounds.....and went the distance with a host of tough guys. Tito knocked him out in the first

Rodger Turner

he administered him his first loss by stoppage, and this guy went the distance with Yori boy.


I also can't count the others who he adminstered their first loss by knockout.

Round 1
10-21-2005, 10:26 PM
I don't really know. He's not a physical specimen some people just have a knack for punching though.
Its a rare breed of fighters, Carlos Zarate, Hearns, and Arguello really packed a punch for being of very slender physique.

RwK
10-21-2005, 10:28 PM
Its a rare breed of fighters, Carlos Zarate, Hearns, and Arguello really packed a punch for being of very slender physique.


Yeah, but Hearns and Arguello were notorious for catching people at the end of their punches where they had the most power.

Tito could punch equally as hard throwing compact ones.

I suppose I should be asking the same question about Diego Corrales.

Round 1
10-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Yeah, but Hearns and Arguello were notorious for catching people at the end of their punches where they had the most power.

Tito could punch equally as hard throwing compact ones.

I suppose I should be asking the same question about Diego Corrales.
True, another strength these fighters possess is their strength to take a punch, it really takes another extraordinary fighter to Knock'em out.

Manny_P
10-21-2005, 10:38 PM
it's all about ta gloves!!!!!!!! He wore that thick ass Grant gainst Winky fo ****'s sake

Cleto Reyes= Lethal!

Ukr_Alex
10-21-2005, 10:40 PM
He gets his power from speed, no not the drug.

Riptor
10-21-2005, 10:40 PM
Technique does it all. Some of the hardest punchers in the gyms around here are the little guys or the stringy guys. Look at trinidads left hook he almost looks like he is doing a hook out of a book. Picture perfect. Look at Tommy hearns no legs under him but his right hand was like a cannon shot and look at coralles. no legs either. There is more to punching than muscle. If only having muscles were the case then weightlifters, and football players would rule the planet.

RwK
10-21-2005, 11:08 PM
If only having muscles were the case then weightlifters, and football players would rule the planet.

I never said anything about muscle.

I was talking about frame. Look how skinny Trinidad is.

Oscar is way wider in the shoulders, and is a bigger man despite being shorter. You could not tell that by their punches.

Size is not Muscle. Im talking about natural size.

Ukr_Alex
10-21-2005, 11:22 PM
I never said anything about muscle.

I was talking about frame. Look how skinny Trinidad is.

Oscar is way wider in the shoulders, and is a bigger man despite being shorter. You could not tell that by their punches.

Size is not Muscle. Im talking about natural size.

Its easy man.

Power= Force

Force= mass X acceleration(velocity/time)

Higher acceleration conpenscates for low mass, hence a man can have arms like tree trunks but might throw a slow punch, and skinny ass d00de with big speed in his hands will punch just as hard as the 200lb guy.

Now speed comes from technique. Certain ways of punching yield higher speed. Go do some shadow punching and see which punch gives you the most speed. For me its my jab(obviously), but when you jab there is very little weight behind the force to provide a strong punch.
So you have to find your perfect punch, something were you can use the most of your body weight withouht sacrificing too much speed. ;) Different for everyone because everyones muscles are developed to different levels, hence there is no one real devistating punch that everyone can throw, because its different for everyone.

RwK
10-21-2005, 11:29 PM
Its easy man.

Power= Force

Force= mass X acceleration(velocity/time)

Higher acceleration conpenscates for low mass, hence a man can have arms like tree trunks but might throw a slow punch, and skinny ass d00de with big speed in his hands will punch just as hard as the 200lb guy.

Now speed comes from technique. Certain ways of punching yield higher speed. Go do some shadow punching and see which punch gives you the most speed. For me its my jab(obviously), but when you jab there is very little weight behind the force to provide a strong punch.
So you have to find your perfect punch, something were you can use the most of your body weight withouht sacrificing too much speed. ;) Different for everyone because everyones muscles are developed to different levels, hence there is no one real devistating punch that everyone can throw, because its different for everyone.

Yeah that is a really good post.

My hardest punch is a right hook from the orthodox position, and I think I am skinny at 6'2 190.

BadMagick
10-21-2005, 11:49 PM
Yeah that is a really good post.

My hardest punch is a right hook from the orthodox position, and I think I am skinny at 6'2 190.

You mean a cross?

RwK
10-21-2005, 11:51 PM
You mean a cross?

Either from southpaw or orthodox. whatever.

BadMagick
10-21-2005, 11:53 PM
Either from southpaw or orthodox. whatever.

Well, you said:
My hardest punch is a right hook from the orthodox position, and I think I am skinny at 6'2 190.

You don't throw a right hook standing orthodox, you throw a right cross. From southpaw, yeah, it's a hook.

RwK
10-21-2005, 11:53 PM
Well, you said:


You don't throw a right hook standing orthodox, you throw a right cross. From southpaw, yeah, it's a hook.

Awesome! thanks man!

Tha Greatest
10-22-2005, 02:21 AM
Hearns, Jackson, McLellan, and Cuevas...

All punch WAY harder than Trinidad.

but Trinidad still punches ****in hard.

ottoevans
10-22-2005, 02:36 AM
he was born with it. Of course he had to box for 20 years to get it down but he was born with it.

Look at a QB like Brett Farve or Drew Bledsoe? They are not muscular but they have cannons

Eric Persson
10-22-2005, 03:48 AM
We havent figured it out yet, why some people have power and some dont. So right now, fighters are born with or without it, end of story.

RwK
10-22-2005, 03:51 AM
We havent figured it out yet, why some people have power and some dont. So right now, fighters are born with or without it, end of story.

That is simply my damn point. You are the first person to view this situation like I do. I need facts.

Untill then. It is still a mystery to me. There have been some excellent posts on this thread.....but this is my question.

Zab Super Judah
10-22-2005, 05:53 AM
Yup power isnt about the way someone's muscles are. Some doods just have punching power. I remember when i was younger, I one of m yfriends would hit me. It was totally different from when anyone else hit me. It felt liek his hands were made of granite.

Zab Super Judah
10-22-2005, 05:59 AM
Yeah, but Hearns and Arguello were notorious for catching people at the end of their punches where they had the most power.

Tito could punch equally as hard throwing compact ones.

I suppose I should be asking the same question about Diego Corrales.

diego corrales looks like someone that hits hard and he does hit hard. He is tall and lanky and is starting to grow into his body.

Corrales is more of a pure one shot KO artist then TITO

Corrales is able to throw a punch without much leverage and still KO another boxer

Tito on the other hand throws everything he has into that left hook of this. (Trinidad is my fav. fighter and I have always wondered how he hit so hard also)


http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3360/trinidadhook0bo.gif

monkeyboy
10-22-2005, 07:35 AM
All down to speed at impact. Many of the best fighters do no weights as muscle and bulk is a negative on speed. Tyson still had some pop when he was older but far less than when he was light and fast. Also with the speed comes greater accuracy. More likely to catch the right area with no impediment or turning with the punch.
The opposite is the sheer momentum of a wide flung heavyweight hook. Momentum and weight will knock you down and rattle you. I prefer a Tito knockout myself. Fast and beautiful.

jack_the_rippuh
10-22-2005, 09:59 AM
it's all about ta gloves!!!!!!!! He wore that thick ass Grant gainst Winky fo ****'s sake

Cleto Reyes= Lethal!

tsk tsk tsk..

Sneaking in another excuse for Pac.