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Truth 12-24-2004, 06:55 PM "James Toney Would Love to Fight
by Rick Folstad
James Toney is like that crazy knight in the old Monty Python skit who keeps trying to fight even as his limbs are getting hacked off.
Maybe you’ve seen it. With both arms and one leg cut off and blood squirting everywhere, the crazy knight is still hopping around on one leg, still challenging the other knight to fight him, calling him names and making fun of him while he tries to keep his balance.
That’s Toney. Down, but not out. Injured, but not dead. Ready to fight, even if he can’t.
In the past 11 months, Toney has been healthy all of about three days, or at least that’s the way it feels. He was getting ready to fight Jameel McCline in February of this year, but he ruptured his Achilles tendon shortly before the fight.
He was healthy just long enough to beat Rydell Booker this past September, but he didn’t escape from that one-sided fight unblemished. He tore his bicep and has been put back on the shelf for another few months. It’s almost like his body is quickly outgrowing itself.
The injuries have kept him out of the ring, but they haven’t kept him out of the spotlight. And that’s the thing about Toney. He never disappears for long, never really leaves. Though banged up, he’s just on the outskirts of the heavyweight division looking in, waiting for a chance to steal the moment, grab the headlines, to question the skills and heart of every other heavyweight out there.
He‘s a little like that crazy knight. Even while he’s injured, he’s still calling guys out, throwing around insults, trying to get them lined up in a row for easy pickings for when he breaks out of this spell of hard luck injuries.
The first guy on his wish list of “bums I would love to fight” is WBA champ Vitali Klitschko, who all but ended the career of Danny Williams earlier this month.
Even after destroying Williams, Klitschko was still criticized for everything from throwing poor punches to not putting Williams away quicker to driving the wrong kind of car to the gym.
If he would have stopped Williams in the first round instead of the eighth, they would have called for an investigation. Nothing the guy does is right. Regardless of Toney’s claims, Klitschko is arguably the best heavyweight in the world right now, but no one wants to actually come out and admit it.
Toney calls him “Frankenstein,” as in “I want Frankenstein first,” which is relatively tame for Toney, who lives by the creed: “Anyone, anywhere, any time.”
As for a fight with Klitschko, who injured his hand against Williams and is tentatively set to fight Hasim Rahman next, it’s “not any time soon.” But that’s all right. There are others out there waiting to get exposed, waiting to be humbled.
At least that’s what Toney - who hopes to fight again in March or April - claims.
“None of these guys can beat me,” he says. “They‘re all a bunch of bums. They‘re all terrible.”
All Toney wants is a chance to show he’s right.
The catch is he has to stay healthy to prove it." From-The sweet science .com
I can't wait to see Toney fight again because I think if anyone can take over this division its him. All the top heavyweights would lose to Toney if Toney came to the fights in shape. I think James Toney will come back in great shape because he knows he is the best skilled heavyweight in the world and he wants to prove it.
phallus 12-24-2004, 06:59 PM i love seeing James toney fight, i hope he gets his shot at frankenstein, though he should probably tune up with McCline or Brewster first
ejk22 12-24-2004, 07:27 PM Can someone explain to me why Toney does not get in the ring with Wladimir? Toney need's to put his money where his mouth is because he has been the number one contender for the WBC for quite sometime now and he has yet to get on the WBC's case for mandating Vitali to fight him.
Truth 12-24-2004, 07:37 PM Can someone explain to me why Toney does not get in the ring with Wladimir? Toney need's to put his money where his mouth is because he has been the number one contender for the WBC for quite sometime now and he has yet to get on the WBC's case for mandating Vitali to fight him.
I agree that would be a good opponent for Toney to comeback and fight.
Solo322 01-21-2005, 06:49 PM I agree that would be a good opponent for Toney to comeback and fight.
I think toney should take him first as a warm up to the heavyweight division.
tri4ben2 01-21-2005, 07:35 PM I wish that Toney was younger so we could really see what he was all about.
I think at 36, or however old he is, he is not as quick as he was at 25, and as a result is going to get caught.
He is a good talker though and he hasn't lost in about 10 years, so I will watch him fight even though I am not expeting the second coming of Ali.
phallus 01-21-2005, 07:40 PM I wish that Toney was younger so we could really see what he was all about.
I think at 36, or however old he is, he is not as quick as he was at 25, and as a result is going to get caught.
He is a good talker though and he hasn't lost in about 10 years, so I will watch him fight even though I am not expeting the second coming of Ali.
he wasn't that quick at 25 either, watch Toney - NUnn, or JT against RJJ. james was never fast, he just has superior skillz, especially his D. james wasn't near as accurate a puncher when he was young as he is now. i'm sad to say he spent years abusing his body, so i don't know how much he has left but a prime James Toney is second only in natural talent to RJJ
marvdave 01-21-2005, 07:44 PM I was and still am a Toney fan. He was quite the fighter at Middle,supermiddle and Cruiser. At this point, his act is growing very tired and wish his mouth would shut and he would fight. For the life of me, I can't figure why some people think he can save the division. He is old and small in stature. His short reach will cuase him huge problems against the big heavys. I'm not sold yet, and a victory over Holyfield proves nothing except that Evander should no longer fight. Start the name calling, but I sincerely feel that Toney would have a tough time against Byrd and Vitali. Even though Byrd is smallish, his activity level should win him a decision. Vitali's size and strength would destroy Toney. I feel the only guy he could beat would be Brewster.
phallus 01-21-2005, 07:49 PM james has been fighting and beating bigger guys his whole career - james was a small middleweight, but size don't matter if u got mad skillz. i think somebody on this site once said
" it's not the size of the fight, but the fight in the dog "
marvdave 01-21-2005, 07:54 PM james has been fighting and beating bigger guys his whole career - james was a small middleweight, but size don't matter if u got mad skillz. i think somebody on this site once said
" it's not the size of the fight, but the fight in the dog "
I hope he proves me wrong becuase I like the guy but I can't see him beating VK at all
whdempsey 01-21-2005, 08:01 PM Can someone explain to me why Toney does not get in the ring with Wladimir? Toney need's to put his money where his mouth is because he has been the number one contender for the WBC for quite sometime now and he has yet to get on the WBC's case for mandating Vitali to fight him.
I full agree. That's the perfect fight for Toney. It would set up a match with Vitali perfectly, proving that he can beat a big-sized heavyweight, and doing that revenge of the brother thing they love so much. I think he should beat Brewster too, just for good measure.
whdempsey 01-21-2005, 08:01 PM Can someone explain to me why Toney does not get in the ring with Wladimir? Toney need's to put his money where his mouth is because he has been the number one contender for the WBC for quite sometime now and he has yet to get on the WBC's case for mandating Vitali to fight him.
I full agree. That's the perfect fight for Toney. It would set up a match with Vitali perfectly, proving that he can beat a big-sized heavyweight, and setting up that revenge of the brother thing they love so much. I think he should beat Brewster too, just for good measure.
whdempsey 01-21-2005, 08:04 PM he wasn't that quick at 25 either, watch Toney - NUnn, or JT against RJJ. james was never fast, he just has superior skillz, especially his D. james wasn't near as accurate a puncher when he was young as he is now. i'm sad to say he spent years abusing his body, so i don't know how much he has left but a prime James Toney is second only in natural talent to RJJ
Beeatch, every time I see your posts I get to liking you more and more. You're always right on target.
freirui 01-21-2005, 09:01 PM That's the perfect fight for Wlad,Wladimir will kill Toney!!!
dansweeney 01-21-2005, 09:04 PM That's the perfect fight for Wlad,Wladimir will kill Toney!!!
your an idiot, brewster beat wlad, enough said, toney has worldclass skills, he would kayo wlad like it was his ****ing job
freirui 01-21-2005, 09:23 PM **** you,dansweeney!!!
Wlad will kill that son of a *****!!!Toney is so full of ****!!!
BrooklynBomber 01-21-2005, 09:47 PM Guys i really dont want to **** on your garden of toneism but this guy does not even have his next fight set. He might as well retire soon.
Eyeh8you 01-21-2005, 09:49 PM JT will never ever step into the ring w/Vitali. He and his promoter are all talk. Someone said he should fight WK for a tune up. I totally agree if he is as great as ppl say he shouldnt have any problem puttin china chinned wlad down.Plus he's a "superheavy" If he were to beat WK then I would by buy into the complete and total insanity of overhypness on JT.However, that being said, WK would fukin demolish the lil **** talkin ape. The prefight intervies would be fukin hillarious though!
Neuraxis 01-21-2005, 11:04 PM Yes James Toney would love to fight...He would love to fight bums like Booker.
I think toney should take him first as a warm up to the heavyweight division.
...Wlad would kill Toney!!! Toney has nothing to hurt Wlad with and he would feel a real heavyweight punch for the first time n his life. Toney would be sleeping by the fourth round. I would love to see him step in the ring with Wlad. It wouldn't even be competitive.
freirui 01-22-2005, 12:09 AM ...Wlad would kill Toney!!! Toney has nothing to hurt Wlad with and he would feel a real heavyweight punch for the first time n his life. Toney would be sleeping by the fourth round. I would love to see him step in the ring with Wlad. It wouldn't even be competitive.
I agree with you 100%!!!
Mr. Violence 01-22-2005, 01:29 AM He has his doubters but I fully believe that Toney has what it takes to win one of the belts....The man has incredible defense.....very hard for one of those big slow heavyweights to hit in my humble opinion.
Floydmayweather 01-22-2005, 02:41 AM I think Vitali would be very tough for Toney but i honestly think wlad would get knocked out. His chin is not very good and toney would hit him enough to take him out.
Neuraxis 01-22-2005, 03:42 AM your an idiot, brewster beat wlad, enough said, toney has worldclass skills, he would kayo wlad like it was his ****ing job
Brewster has power, Toney doesn't.
ejk22 01-22-2005, 10:02 AM Really people, I am so sick and ****ing tired with that ****ing homo Goossen and James Toney talking all this **** but abso****inglutely refusing to get into the ring with a live heavyweight. Holyfield is long gone and Rydell Booker is a pile of elephant ****. Wladimir, Samuel Peter, Jameel Mccline, Lance Whitaker have all been calling Toney out for over a year now and Toney has yet to do anything about it. I don't give a **** if he was injured or not, there has been plenty of time in between his supposed injury that he could have signed on the dotted line to face any of these guy's.
Really people, I am so sick and ****ing tired with that ****ing homo Goossen and James Toney talking all this **** but abso****inglutely refusing to get into the ring with a live heavyweight. Holyfield is long gone and Rydell Booker is a pile of elephant ****. Wladimir, Samuel Peter, Jameel Mccline, Lance Whitaker have all been calling Toney out for over a year now and Toney has yet to do anything about it. I don't give a **** if he was injured or not, there has been plenty of time in between his supposed injury that he could have signed on the dotted line to face any of these guy's.
....That should be a clear cut sign that even Toney knows that he's a fraud. He doesn't believe a word of his own bull****. He is trying to Parlay the Holy fight and the Booker joke of a fight into one last big payday with possibly Vitali. He isn't going to risk getting exposed as a fraud by fighting a real heavy unless it's for a belt and a ton of change. If he takes a "warmup" against a top ten guy he is gonna get beat and that will be the end.
ill be the first to say im not a HUGE fan of toney. i want to c him take on the winner of golata brewster, or take on mccline. iwana c him with sum big mother f******
jswa17 01-22-2005, 12:46 PM one of the best counter punchers of all time
Neuraxis 01-22-2005, 01:38 PM ....That should be a clear cut sign that even Toney knows that he's a fraud. He doesn't believe a word of his own bull****. He is trying to Parlay the Holy fight and the Booker joke of a fight into one last big payday with possibly Vitali. He isn't going to risk getting exposed as a fraud by fighting a real heavy unless it's for a belt and a ton of change. If he takes a "warmup" against a top ten guy he is gonna get beat and that will be the end.
Exactly, well said.
baard 03-31-2005, 08:59 AM Tony seems in shape. I would love to see him against Ruiz soon.
aric28 09-21-2005, 10:17 AM Do your thing Toney!
KidBlackie 09-21-2005, 10:27 AM [[[ I fully believe that Toney has what it takes to win one of the belts....The man has incredible defense]]]
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Is that why Toney led with his face against Ruiz? Toney might be lucky enough to get past Brewster if Brewster takes a fight off, but really, you boys are gonna see how much he struggles against Guinn who is a low output puncher. Any heavy with a good offense is gonna knock Toney into a dumpster for brunch!
kallsop 09-21-2005, 11:09 AM It doesn't matter how good Toney's defense it. Against a hard hitting 250lb. monster (either Klitschko, Brewster, Mccline, Golota, Sanders, etc..) he will be bruised from waist to head and has little to no chance.
Give him credit for self promotion but apart from the awful Ruiz, he isn't beating any of the serious heavy contenders.
"James Toney Would Love to Fight
by Rick Folstad
James Toney is like that crazy knight in the old Monty Python skit who keeps trying to fight even as his limbs are getting hacked off.
Maybe you’ve seen it. With both arms and one leg cut off and blood squirting everywhere, the crazy knight is still hopping around on one leg, still challenging the other knight to fight him, calling him names and making fun of him while he tries to keep his balance.
That’s Toney. Down, but not out. Injured, but not dead. Ready to fight, even if he can’t.
In the past 11 months, Toney has been healthy all of about three days, or at least that’s the way it feels. He was getting ready to fight Jameel McCline in February of this year, but he ruptured his Achilles tendon shortly before the fight.
He was healthy just long enough to beat Rydell Booker this past September, but he didn’t escape from that one-sided fight unblemished. He tore his bicep and has been put back on the shelf for another few months. It’s almost like his body is quickly outgrowing itself.
The injuries have kept him out of the ring, but they haven’t kept him out of the spotlight. And that’s the thing about Toney. He never disappears for long, never really leaves. Though banged up, he’s just on the outskirts of the heavyweight division looking in, waiting for a chance to steal the moment, grab the headlines, to question the skills and heart of every other heavyweight out there.
He‘s a little like that crazy knight. Even while he’s injured, he’s still calling guys out, throwing around insults, trying to get them lined up in a row for easy pickings for when he breaks out of this spell of hard luck injuries.
The first guy on his wish list of “bums I would love to fight” is WBA champ Vitali Klitschko, who all but ended the career of Danny Williams earlier this month.
Even after destroying Williams, Klitschko was still criticized for everything from throwing poor punches to not putting Williams away quicker to driving the wrong kind of car to the gym.
If he would have stopped Williams in the first round instead of the eighth, they would have called for an investigation. Nothing the guy does is right. Regardless of Toney’s claims, Klitschko is arguably the best heavyweight in the world right now, but no one wants to actually come out and admit it.
Toney calls him “Frankenstein,” as in “I want Frankenstein first,” which is relatively tame for Toney, who lives by the creed: “Anyone, anywhere, any time.”
As for a fight with Klitschko, who injured his hand against Williams and is tentatively set to fight Hasim Rahman next, it’s “not any time soon.” But that’s all right. There are others out there waiting to get exposed, waiting to be humbled.
At least that’s what Toney - who hopes to fight again in March or April - claims.
“None of these guys can beat me,” he says. “They‘re all a bunch of bums. They‘re all terrible.”
All Toney wants is a chance to show he’s right.
The catch is he has to stay healthy to prove it." From-The sweet science .com
I can't wait to see Toney fight again because I think if anyone can take over this division its him. All the top heavyweights would lose to Toney if Toney came to the fights in shape. I think James Toney will come back in great shape because he knows he is the best skilled heavyweight in the world and he wants to prove it.
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