Again, the title says it all.

Mike Tyson.

Ricky Hatton

Rocky Marciano

Sugar Ray Robinson

Sugar Ray Robinson
Can you please explain that?

Sugar Ray Robinson


you must be joking.

I'd go with Tyson. Too many losses to poor competition. You can knock Marciano for not fighting any good heavyweights in their prime but at least he always beat the guy they put in front of him.

i hate to sya this..but its true..and it sucks...

because of rocky maricano era the he fought threw..he must be cuz he never had any great competition

also lenox lewis fought threw a easy as hell HW era..filled with shot legends and old guys that once were good...if lewis was in the 70-80's HW era..he would have not even been top 10

I am going with Sugar Ray Leonard because he played the crowd.

Sugar Ray Leonard.

Roy Jones Jr./I always thought his fear of getting hurt kept him from living up to his potential. He has to be one of the most gifted fighters ever but was too scared to see just how great he could have been. Therefore he made his p4p best around claims all while fighting sub-par fighters for the most part.

No doubt, its Tyson.

1.Mike Tyson
2.Roy Jones Jr.
3.Riddick Bowe

Sugar Ray Leonard
Rocky Marciano

These two are the ones that instantly spring to mind.

Ali is over-rated by many people.

Ali is over-rated by many people.



ha-ha :)


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Eggzackly.
My point being that Ali, like many greats is a very polarizing figure.
And as such, is both over-rated AND under-rated ....depending on who you talk to.

The last half of Roy Jones career.
Wlad Klitschko. :)

Rocky Marciano, all his big fights were against over the hill opponents.

floyd mayweather
ray leonard
mike tyson
zab judah

****ing come on guys, what about Grant, before he fought Golata? And SRR? Overrated? Marciano may have been overrated in his era, but the most overrated? Valuev, anyone?

Zab one of them.

i hate to sya this..but its true..and it sucks...

because of rocky maricano era the he fought threw..he must be cuz he never had any great competition

also lenox lewis fought threw a easy as hell HW era..filled with shot legends and old guys that once were good...if lewis was in the 70-80's HW era..he would have not even been top 10


ur a pure dumb ass...man i hate u dumb hicks from montana whos ever had a been in a fight in their life and just throw around their opinions...klitchko and lewis because of their size and power would be a champion in any era u dumb ****...heavyweights today hit harder and are stronger then any era ever..top 20 of these guys could be champ in any era..man u ppl are so ignorant and outta touch with reality on this board

ur a pure dumb ass...man i hate u dumb hicks from montana whos ever had a been in a fight in their life and just throw around their opinions...klitchko and lewis because of their size and power would be a champion in any era u dumb ****...heavyweights today hit harder and are stronger then any era ever..top 20 of these guys could be champ in any era..man u ppl are so ignorant and outta touch with reality on this board

Man that phrase right under your name says volumes about you, size may play a small factor but punching power comes more from quickness than from strength and heart plays a big role in boxing. I have a really hard time seeing as you say any top twenty fighter of today being a champion of any era. Imo even a prime Larry Holmes would outbox the hell out of Lennox Lewis and Vitaly K. But a prime Goerge Foreman would probably kill them both.

I would say Mike Tyson. The man was built up to be invincible, then loses to Douglas, Lewis, Holyfield, Williams. Drops 4 rounds before knocking out Francois "The White Buffalo" Botha. The man was more hype than anything. Prince Naseem would have been, had he been highly regarded.

Donald Curry - There was fuss over **** all.

Mike tyson is by far the most OverRated fighter of all time. Tyson fans will argue about tyson beating everyone in history in p4p matchups.

Mike tyson is by far the most OverRated fighter of all time. Tyson fans will argue about tyson beating everyone in history in p4p matchups.Anybody here ever suspected if Paz was on 'roids?

The Prince Naseem

Michael Grant

Tito Trinidad

Donald Curry - There was fuss over **** all.

Donald wasn't the most overrated fighter.Sure, his chin wasn't the best, but for a couple of years he was the man.The most overrated fighter of all time is Roy Jones Jr., followed by Howard Davis Jr.

Roy Jones easily, followed by Bernard Hopkins.

Roy Jones Jr./I always thought his fear of getting hurt kept him from living up to his potential. He has to be one of the most gifted fighters ever but was too scared to see just how great he could have been. Therefore he made his p4p best around claims all while fighting sub-par fighters for the most part.
True... I'd have to say Roy Jones Junior... Tainted career. :(

In other news, Mayorga is about to star in "Last of the Mohicans 2" ;)

http://www.stewartsattic.com/Marx/specials/whosjohnny/wesstudi2.jpg

Rocky Marciano

Why?

At least he never lost a fight he was supposed to win lol

(In Buffer voice)

Introducing.....
the unde-feated...un-disputed....most overrated fighter...in the history of the woooooorld....


IRON....MIKE....TYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-SON

I like Ricky martin ,I mean Hatton for now on this one.

Anyone who thinks Roy is the most overrated fighter of all time.

Well...

You just don't know much about boxing.

Peace.

I dont know about all time....but David Reid was really overrated.

Mike Tyson, easily.

I dont know about all time....but David Reid was really overrated.

god damn.. i looked at his record and damn! he fought guys with good records. :eek:

Muhammad Ali, without doubt.

Rocky Marciano

Most underated fighter.

sugar ray leonard
muhammad ali

Number one of all.....Iron Mike Tyson....

People talked about his fights in the 1980s like he couldn't have been stopped...

I saw his fight against Tillis....he looked like GARBAGE!!!
In his prime, he never looked invincible to me, I saw MANY flaws in him...especially him fighting bums...

Number 2 I would have to say Felix "Tito" Trinidad...

He looked like pure CRAP against a old shot over the hill cocaine head Pernell Whitaker and like crap against Hector "the ***" Camacho...

Marciano-180 pound light heavyweight or cruiserweight who fought moslty other 180 pound light heavyweights or cruiserweights.he ducked any black right who wasn't really old or just a complete cum(Marciano ducked Corley Wallace because Wallace knocked out Maricano in 1 round as a amatuer)Tyson never fought any top level fighters who were in their primes by yet still was knocked out 5 times.Louis ducked black fighters until later in his career and they all beat him.Dempsey ducked all black fighters period.De la Hoya gets beat every time he faces a decent black fighter.And Sugar Ray Robinson is overrated.You look as his record in his prime and you go wow but who did he fight?Mostly really slow italian guys with no punch or skill.He ducked any black fighter who he knew could beat him like Charley Burley and when he did fight black fighters like Tommy Bell he had a hell of a time beating them or lost.Turpin beat Robinson with ease and was beating Robinson again in their second fight until Sugar got lucky.

Marciano-180 pound light heavyweight or cruiserweight who fought moslty other 180 pound light heavyweights or cruiserweights.he ducked any black right who wasn't really old or just a complete cum(Marciano ducked Corley Wallace because Wallace knocked out Maricano in 1 round as a amatuer)Tyson never fought any top level fighters who were in their primes by yet still was knocked out 5 times.Louis ducked black fighters until later in his career and they all beat him.Dempsey ducked all black fighters period.De la Hoya gets beat every time he faces a decent black fighter.And Sugar Ray Robinson is overrated.You look as his record in his prime and you go wow but who did he fight?Mostly really slow italian guys with no punch or skill.He ducked any black fighter who he knew could beat him like Charley Burley and when he did fight black fighters like Tommy Bell he had a hell of a time beating them or lost.Turpin beat Robinson with ease and was beating Robinson again in their second fight until Sugar got lucky.

Get the **** outta here you hating ass punk I'd love to spit in ur face and kick u in the ****in head!

Quit hating *****!

Joe Louis ducked 5 guys and lost to all of them? he only has 3 losses ****face, and 2 of them are white people...

He was old as **** when he fought Charles...

Joe Louis the night he knocked out Schmeling KOs anyone in history.

(Marciano ducked Corley Wallace because Wallace knocked out Maricano in 1 round as a amatuer)

Imnorw, that is a complete load of ****!

You probably got the information from an AP report of Wallace's death, but did you know that they also came back shortly after and admitted they made an error in reporting it as a KO victory for Wallace? They only fought once as amateurs (took place in March of 1948), and it was Wallace who won a controversial three round decision. Here's a brief fight description that I have from it;

"Rocky swarmed after Wallace at the opening bell. He was throwing wild but heavy punches that landed everywhere, on the arms, the shoulders, the top of the head.

The crowd at Ridgewood Grove Arena in Brooklyn was on it's feet cheering. They sensed an upset, and even though Coley was a local favorite, they abandoned him.

But Wallace was an excellant boxer for an amateur, and he soon adjusted his style to cope with Rocky's bull-like rushes. It was the classic boxer versus slugger contest that fight fans crave.

Wallace had been scoring points with his slick style, but he did not have a punch to hurt Marciano. As the fight ended, Rocky was battering Coley against the ropes.

Wallace had been stylish, but Marciano had carried the fight to him throughout all three rounds and had delivered all of the punishing blows.

When the judges announced Wallace the victor, the fans, who believed Marciano had won easily, were indignant. They booed and threw soda bottles and programs into the ring."

Here's a couple of links to Marciano's record that clearly shows that it was a decision win for Wallace, including one that also mentions the controversy surrounding the fight;

http://www.ring8.org/discuss.htm

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/rocky.htm

Imnorw, you've made your feelings about Marciano very clear since you've been on the forum, but you should try to avoid fudging the truth, or at least learn them before you go spouting off that type of crap.

Mike Tyson

Get the **** outta here you hating ass punk I'd love to spit in ur face and kick u in the ****in head!

Quit hating *****!

Joe Louis ducked 5 guys and lost to all of them? he only has 3 losses ****face, and 2 of them are white people...

He was old as **** when he fought Charles...

Joe Louis the night he knocked out Schmeling KOs anyone in history.
you're a cry baby fool

Get the **** outta here you hating ass punk I'd love to spit in ur face and kick u in the ****in head!

Quit hating *****!

Joe Louis ducked 5 guys and lost to all of them? he only has 3 losses ****face, and 2 of them are white people...

He was old as **** when he fought Charles...

Joe Louis the night he knocked out Schmeling KOs anyone in history.

That guy is talking out of his ass and is obviously clueless to what he's talking about. For your viewing, or more importantly for that moron's education, here's the Ring's annual rankings for both the 1930's and 1940's;

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Heavyweights--1930s

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Heavyweights--1940s

A simply crosscheck of Louis' record shows he fought the vast majority of the top contenders of his era, and it's ridiculous for Imnorw to claim Louis ducked anybody during the late 30's and early 40's.

Rocky Marciano

It appears the links I gave to the Heavyweight rankings of the 30's and 40's didn't work, but anybody can access that by heading over to boxrec, clicking on the encyclopaedia and checking out the most popular pages...The page for the ratings should be among the top dozen or so.

anyone who says roy jones jr is the most over rated fighter of all time is a biased idiot. roy may be over rated, but were talking all time over rated here. same thing goes with hatton. seriously you cant say ricky hatton is the most over rated fighter in the history of boxing. roy and ricky the most over rated in all of boxing since, well, like 100 years ago? please people, please.

Roy Jones Jr. is not over rated. He is just old now, and that seems to happen to every fighter. It's a funny thing..... age. It seems to get the best of all of us.

We can't really say that a fighter was over rated just because he fought a little too long and let father time get the best of him. Almost all of the great fighters have been guilty of that.

Roy Jones Jr. was probably one of the most invincible fighters I have ever seen in his heyday.

Muhammad Ali could not have been beaten when he was 27 years old unless he had been drugged. Nobody even came close.

Marciano beat everyone he fought. What more can you say about that? Yes, he was strange to watch and awkward looking, but he KO'd lots of guys.

If we want to talk about over-rated fighters, and in my mind, "over-rated" would mean fighters that never really lived up to their billing. These fighters to me would be:

Wladimir Klitscko
Gerry Cooney
Mike Tyson
Michael Grant
Vinny Pazienza
Michael Spinx (at heavyweight)
Marvis Frazier



These are some obvious ones to me. There are lots of them, but alot of them were blown up to be the next big thing, and then they faded into obscurity.

Wheres Gatti on this list? The man has 7 defeats and he was on a PPV recently.

Wheres Gatti on this list? The man has 7 defeats and he was on a PPV recently.

I don't think anybody thinks he's good, heh.

morrad hakkar . giving this guy a title shot for the UNIFIED MW title makes him the most overrated of all time .

and primo carnera

morrad hakkar . giving this guy a title shot for the UNIFIED MW title makes him the most overrated of all time .

and primo carnera
primo carnera is unanimously regarded as the WORST HW champion of all time (along with john the bum ruiz).

most overrated is Sugar Ray Leonard.

andrew golota this guy sucks but hes always on hbo or on ppv fights why is this when we hits below and quits and gets knocked out quick its like don king is ****in him in the booty and sayin im gettin 95% of your money

James TOney all the way, lost against some bums, and i hate the *****

Gatti has talent. He is just a brawler and not a boxer. He has never been overrated. And he has ten times more heart and pride than most fighters.

say what?????????????????????
Gatti has talent. He is just a brawler and not a boxer. He has never been overrated. And he has ten times more heart and pride than most fighters.

Marciano-180 pound light heavyweight or cruiserweight who fought moslty other 180 pound light heavyweights or cruiserweights.he ducked any black right who wasn't really old or just a complete cum(Marciano ducked Corley Wallace because Wallace knocked out Maricano in 1 round as a amatuer)Tyson never fought any top level fighters who were in their primes by yet still was knocked out 5 times.Louis ducked black fighters until later in his career and they all beat him.Dempsey ducked all black fighters period.De la Hoya gets beat every time he faces a decent black fighter.And Sugar Ray Robinson is overrated.You look as his record in his prime and you go wow but who did he fight?Mostly really slow italian guys with no punch or skill.He ducked any black fighter who he knew could beat him like Charley Burley and when he did fight black fighters like Tommy Bell he had a hell of a time beating them or lost.Turpin beat Robinson with ease and was beating Robinson again in their second fight until Sugar got lucky.

to me, this is just another hater spewing innacurate facts to try and prove a point.
dont believe everything you read.....

HATERRRRRRRRRRRRR

Most overrated of all time:

Tito Trinidad.


runners up:

Fernando Vargas
Arturo Gatti
Mike Tyson
Jeff Lacy

Tyson won the championship at 21.
Lacy is still going.
Vargas was really good. Stood his ground with tito. Olympian.

Tyson may have won the title at 21, yet I still argue he is the most overrated heavyweight of all time. For all the hype, Douglas beat him pretty decisively, Holyfield owned his ass, Lewis as well. Any time he stepped in the ring with a good fighter, he ended up on the losing end.

Vargas is overrated in my opinion because all he had was power, he won fights that should have been losses(i.e. Vargas/Wright, Vargas/Quartey).

As far as Lacy, wait until Taylor moves up to 168 and you'll see precisely what I mean. Lacy is too open when he fights. Somebody is eventually gonna expose him and that'll be the end of Lacy.

Of course, Lacy may have more boxing ability than he lets on, and I could be completely wrong.

Rocky Marciano.....then Chavez

^^^^^^^^^^^^^???????????????????????????????????

Julio C. Chavez

Roy Jones Jr./I always thought his fear of getting hurt kept him from living up to his potential. He has to be one of the most gifted fighters ever but was too scared to see just how great he could have been. Therefore he made his p4p best around claims all while fighting sub-par fighters for the most part.

what do u mean idiot...won titles in 4 divisions..he fought ppl in his weight class..i mean wtf

the overrated fighter list is loaded..these are guys who werent all that great but they had charisma/played the crowd..or if they fought today would get clobbered

ray robinson..when he fought many ppl didnt have speed and reflexes like him..but today speed like that comes a dime a dozen..tommy hearns would have punished him

mike tyson-we all would agree
marciano-short and slow..but tuff
ali-had charisma..wasnt that great
dempsey-wild..would get punished today
louis-short and slow
ray leonard
roberto duran
julio chavez

Anyone who thinks Roy is the most overrated fighter of all time.

Well...

You just don't know much about boxing.

Peace.
Says the kid who lives in Pensacola, Florida... LOL!...

I like Ricky martin ,I mean Hatton for now on this one.
Well, I'm confident you won't be saying that in 4yrs time. ;)

the overrated fighter list is loaded..these are guys who werent all that great but they had charisma/played the crowd..or if they fought today would get clobbered

ray robinson..when he fought many ppl didnt have speed and reflexes like him..but today speed like that comes a dime a dozen..tommy hearns would have punished him

mike tyson-we all would agree
marciano-short and slow..but tuff
ali-had charisma..wasnt that great
dempsey-wild..would get punished today
louis-short and slow
ray leonard
roberto duran
julio chavez

LMAO @ you, the accidental comedian.

Your list....just stinks.

Says the kid who lives in Pensacola, Florida... LOL!...
Well, I'm confident you won't be saying that in 4yrs time. ;)
Says the kid who lives in London, England... LOL!...

Says the kid who lives in London, England... LOL!...
Yeah but Ricky Hatton doesn't come from London??? :confused:

the overrated fighter list is loaded..these are guys who werent all that great but they had charisma/played the crowd..or if they fought today would get clobbered

ray robinson..when he fought many ppl didnt have speed and reflexes like him..but today speed like that comes a dime a dozen..tommy hearns would have punished him

mike tyson-we all would agree
marciano-short and slow..but tuff
ali-had charisma..wasnt that great
dempsey-wild..would get punished today
louis-short and slow
ray leonard
roberto duran
julio chavez


Dude you cant be serious...Ali was the greatest heavy weight by far, Mike Tyson was the youngest heavyweight champion and was just plain nasty..The old timers you have there were all great..and they fought with tiny gloves..not with these pillows that they fight with today. Dempsey would not be able to be a heavy weight, he would be a light heavy. And to put Leornard and Duran there...omg..thats just rediculous.

Julio Ceaser Chavez

the overrated fighter list is loaded..these are guys who werent all that great but they had charisma/played the crowd..or if they fought today would get clobbered

ray robinson..when he fought many ppl didnt have speed and reflexes like him..but today speed like that comes a dime a dozen..tommy hearns would have punished him

mike tyson-we all would agree
marciano-short and slow..but tuff
ali-had charisma..wasnt that great
dempsey-wild..would get punished today
louis-short and slow
ray leonard
roberto duran
julio chavez
i strongly disagree with your list and ur saying that "guys today would get clobbered".

hearns beating robinson? hearns cant take it as well as he could dish it out (something robinson was an expert at)

ali=not that great? im not even gonna dignify that with a rebuttal.

dempsey was wild, but get punished today? against THIS kind of competition? plz.

louis was 6'2" and his feet were slow but his hands were fast.

i agree with marciano. but hes not overrated.

I think one of the most overated fighters of all time is oscar de la hoya He was beat by quarty got the nod didnt even touch whitaker all you could here were the women screaming got out fought by mosley. yet everyone seems to think he is this great fighter.

I think one of the most overated fighters of all time is oscar de la hoya He was beat by quarty got the nod didnt even touch whitaker all you could here were the women screaming got out fought by mosley. yet everyone seems to think he is this great fighter.
hes the only person to win titles in 6 weight classes. thats great enough for me.

DLH is a great fighter..he is beyond good. Cant he stand side by side with Duran..hell no..but that doesnt mean that he isnt great.

oscar we see now, overrated. after turning pro and up until the mosley I fight... all time great.

i never said he wasnt good i just said people seem to think he should be matntioned in the same breath as robinson or hagler or leaonard i think he was lucky to have so much media attention because without it he never woulda been so blown up. he was good just not great

Marciano-180 pound light heavyweight or cruiserweight who fought moslty other 180 pound light heavyweights or cruiserweights.he ducked any black right who wasn't really old or just a complete cum(Marciano ducked Corley Wallace because Wallace knocked out Maricano in 1 round as a amatuer)Tyson never fought any top level fighters who were in their primes by yet still was knocked out 5 times.Louis ducked black fighters until later in his career and they all beat him.Dempsey ducked all black fighters period.De la Hoya gets beat every time he faces a decent black fighter.And Sugar Ray Robinson is overrated.You look as his record in his prime and you go wow but who did he fight?Mostly really slow italian guys with no punch or skill.He ducked any black fighter who he knew could beat him like Charley Burley and when he did fight black fighters like Tommy Bell he had a hell of a time beating them or lost.Turpin beat Robinson with ease and was beating Robinson again in their second fight until Sugar got lucky.

I know you hate anything that isn't black, but when you put that **** in your posts, it makes you look biased and ignorant.

Tyson\Leonard\WINKY WRIGHT,**** winky :)

hes the only person to win titles in 6 weight classes. thats great enough for me.



SIX ?

Please ! He never won a real title at 130 (beat a nobody in Bredahl, for a worthless WBO belt).
He was given an absolute gift against Sturm.....& if you think Sturm was the middlewight champ just because some **** organization said so...damn, you hate boxing !

All time is,

Chavez
De La Hoya
Duran
& Many more

Today is,

Winky by far, also I forgot Barrera.

most overated by far on this site is Chris fecking eu-wank.

Lennox Lewis has to be up there, he wouldn't of stood much chance against a Catskills Tyson.

are you crazy tito beat everybody except dlh and benard hopkins

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Listen the first rule is when it comes to threads like this is taking a fighter out of his time period. To say Dempsey would get killed today is horse ****. But to play ur games but todays heavyweights in Dempsey's era where they fought 20 rounds and there was no nuetral cornor so you could stand over ur opponet. Also arguably Dempsey one of the best boxing skilled heavyweights of alltime in Gene Tunney, we havent seen a heavyweight boxer skilled like this in 20 or 30 yrs.

And why are ppl mentioning Gatti how the hell is he overrated, the man has exceeded all expectations when it came to him being a fighter. A two time champ at 2 differnt weight classes. Most boxing experts said his career would be done at 30, especialy after the de la hoya fight but Gatti came back beat a former world champ in Millet gave boxing fans another glorious triliogy for the ages and won a title at 140 defending it twice w/ early KO's.

To me that is exceeding expectations

Winky by far,


things like this are why when you sent me that 'I hope you're ok' private message when hurricane Katrina was headed to new orleans I told you to go **** yourself. you have no clue...lol, winky and bernard will beat any middleweight out there DECISIVELY if it were to go to say, 15 rd