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moneymayforever
08-22-2011, 10:01 AM
Hey all. I'm 15 years old,***12288;and I'm getting real serious about boxing. In Japan, we take a pro test starting from 17 years old, so until then I'm thinking of quitting school soon (when 1st qurter ends) and go straight into the world of boxing and train hard, and get enough experience to prepare myself as well as changing my gym because my gym don't participate in any fights. Thing is, I'm not quite sure if the training I'm doing is making me qualified for making me into a professional. This is what I do everyday at my gym:

Stretch 2~3 R
Shadow Box w/out wraps and work on footwork 5~10 rounds
Jumprope 3~5R
Shadow Box w/ wraps 5~10 R
Heavy Bag 2~3 R
Pad Work 1R (I usually did 2 but I had to take it easy due to a past injury. Will get on to 2~3R in September)
Heavy Bag 5~10 R
Reflex Bag 2 R
Speedbag 3~4 R
Ab workout (sometimes, usually do it at a nearby gym) 30 min
Stretch 2~3 R

This takes me 1~2 hours, 3 at the MAX. I wake up early and started running again (started off with 3 miles) since I substituted my running for swimming for a while, I kind of lost my rhythm on my roadwork, but I'll get that back soon. That was my original workout routine, but the gym's ORIGINAL schedule for the people who want to be pro follows as,

Stretch 2~3 R
Jump rope 2~3 R
Shadow Boxing 3~5 R
Sandbag 5~10 R
Pad work 2~3 R
Shadow Boxing 2~3 R
JUmp rope 2~3 R
Stretch 2~3 R

I'm not sure if my routine is enough, as I do not do any sparrings. As a matter of fact I never sparred before, I only did a "simulation" of a spar if you catch my drift. You spar but you don't hit the opponent. Mass boxing, I think you call it?

If anyone who is working to become pro, are your workout routines focused on spars? Also, it would be nice if I could know your workout routines as well.

On boxing off days, I go to the gym and weightlift and swim, usually that takes 2 hours.

ChowAce
08-22-2011, 10:05 AM
Sparring is KEY to becoming a good boxer. You won't get far without it. You can have the perfect technique on the focus mitts, but if you don't know whats it is like to be in the ring and getting hit in the face, it is useless.

Why become pro right away? I would suggest picking up at least 20 amateur fights if possible and winning them all before even thinking about being a pro boxer.

Also and perhaps the most important thing. Do NOT quit school. Education is so important, because you need to have something to fall back on. It should be no problem managing your time between school work and boxing.

Dudemanguy
08-22-2011, 10:34 AM
^ What he said, dont quit school. Its not even about if you are good pro or not, everyone gets old eventually and when that happens it will probably be fun to know how to multiply ;p.

ps you gotta spar, its so much fun and it helps you alot lol.

moneymayforever
08-23-2011, 04:02 AM
Thanks guys, the thing is i want to make boxing my career, and yes, you're right i do have to think about the time i retire. i cant box all my life anyways. my plan is to change the gym to a bigger one maybe this December if possible, and i'd like to take the pro test at 17 years old. i know a gym that has an american trainer, so it'll be easier for me (i can't speak much japanese although im full japanese :P) to go there and train. after i graduate high school i'll get a part time job and focus on boxing and try to win my fights. is this a good plan?

Rockin'
08-23-2011, 04:35 AM
Take it from somebody who has been there and done that, finish your schooling. You have no amatuer experience (I'm assuming) and plan to earn a living being a pro fighter, I don't mean to burst your bubble but chances are that you will make far less fighting than you would even a minimum wage job when it's all said and done.

I had a good amatuer background, at a time they tell me that I was one of the top amatuers in the state. I turned pro and was fighting on television right from my first pro bout. Alot of things can happen, in the ring and in your life in general. Being a fighter is the toughest road you will ever see.

Stay in the amatuers man, get that experience and if you're beating all of the amatuers around you then consider fighting pro. The pro game is no joke and you could be seriously injured if you don't have the experience or have somebody trust worthy handling your career. I had both when I was rolling and its still a tough road.

Whatever you do finish atleast your highschool education and better yet get a college education.

And what does this pro test consist of.........Rockin':boxing:

moneymayforever
08-23-2011, 04:59 AM
Thanks Rockin', that was a very helpful reply. I guess going to a college with a boxing club isn't a bad idea? and the pro test consists of, a paper test (just basic stuff... like how many rounds are there in boxing and qs like that) and two rounds of sparring.

ronniejunior
08-23-2011, 05:52 AM
Thanks Rockin', that was a very helpful reply. I guess going to a college with a boxing club isn't a bad idea? and the pro test consists of, a paper test (just basic stuff... like how many rounds are there in boxing and qs like that) and two rounds of sparring.

definitely not enough...sparring is the key as mentioned before in this thread...and like rockin' said shadow box the way you fight as it is the same way you'll fight for real...other than that not bad, with your drive and determinatioin you will succeed...just gotta believe and be willing to do the work...

KingTito
08-23-2011, 08:35 PM
Don't quite school. There's no rush. You're young. Just work hard, and be sure to spar.

moneymayforever
08-25-2011, 06:15 AM
but the thing i wonder, is that am i able to become a good fighter with only dedication and guts? i do have dedication, however alot of fighters i know didnt even finish high school. even my coach :-/ there are alot of people who is younger than me and is training without going to school though.

ChowAce
08-25-2011, 06:34 AM
I have another question for you moneymayforever, what does your family (parents) think about this?

moneymayforever
08-25-2011, 10:08 AM
hey chowace, its really complicated, like my dad said if i were you then i'll go quit and go straight off to a bigger gym, find a job and train everyday. god damn it there are people, such as the kameda family (i dont know if you know them but the 3 kameda champions could not go to school because their stupid ass dad didnt let'em)and of course hozumi hasegawa who quit high school. My mom said that school is so improtant to me right now. i really want to focus on boxing, but what my mom says is true. boxing changed from the 1990's, we cant just quit school, christ sake im not even a pro.

Dudemanguy
08-25-2011, 10:23 AM
If nothing else spar first man, before you quit everything heh.

*Nice dedication though*

Barn
08-25-2011, 10:45 AM
Take it from somebody who has been there and done that, finish your schooling. You have no amatuer experience (I'm assuming) and plan to earn a living being a pro fighter, I don't mean to burst your bubble but chances are that you will make far less fighting than you would even a minimum wage job when it's all said and done.

I had a good amatuer background, at a time they tell me that I was one of the top amatuers in the state. I turned pro and was fighting on television right from my first pro bout. Alot of things can happen, in the ring and in your life in general. Being a fighter is the toughest road you will ever see.

Stay in the amatuers man, get that experience and if you're beating all of the amatuers around you then consider fighting pro. The pro game is no joke and you could be seriously injured if you don't have the experience or have somebody trust worthy handling your career. I had both when I was rolling and its still a tough road.

Whatever you do finish atleast your highschool education and better yet get a college education.

And what does this pro test consist of.........Rockin':boxing:

Thank god you posted. Some people are way too naive.

kbpoetree
08-25-2011, 12:34 PM
Take it from somebody who has been there and done that, finish your schooling. You have no amatuer experience (I'm assuming) and plan to earn a living being a pro fighter, I don't mean to burst your bubble but chances are that you will make far less fighting than you would even a minimum wage job when it's all said and done.

I had a good amatuer background, at a time they tell me that I was one of the top amatuers in the state. I turned pro and was fighting on television right from my first pro bout. Alot of things can happen, in the ring and in your life in general. Being a fighter is the toughest road you will ever see.

Stay in the amatuers man, get that experience and if you're beating all of the amatuers around you then consider fighting pro. The pro game is no joke and you could be seriously injured if you don't have the experience or have somebody trust worthy handling your career. I had both when I was rolling and its still a tough road.

Whatever you do finish atleast your highschool education and better yet get a college education.

And what does this pro test consist of.........Rockin':boxing:
this man...believe...he is truth..he has been there no doubt..very reputable..and yes spar no doubt..go to the bigger gym more the merrier...continue school..boxing is very tuff business

sugersean15
08-25-2011, 01:10 PM
No have a few fights and spar first you need the experience.make sure you spar before that test cuz i have seen people spar for the first time and they just get a big shock when someone is trying to hit them.

kbpoetree
08-25-2011, 03:26 PM
No have a few fights and spar first you need the experience.make sure you spar before that test cuz i have seen people spar for the first time and they just get a big shock when someone is trying to hit them.
lol not only that but...i've had guys come in say they wanna box..all about it (i'm a coach)...then they spar....get their ass handed to them...and never show up again....boxing is not only throwing punches but getting hit..they all do no matter how good u are....

BoxingPromoter
08-25-2011, 03:52 PM
I'll have a couple slots open on a few of my fight cards late 2011 or early 2012. I'm willing to match you up against other fighters who don't have extensive experience like yourself. Drop me a pm if you're interested...

Promoter

ghns1133
08-25-2011, 03:56 PM
Spar!!!!!!

moneymayforever
08-26-2011, 04:14 AM
gahh i hate it when i cant spar, seriously i need a new gym :-/

hebi
08-30-2011, 12:03 AM
Well the least you can do is stay in school until you have experienced sparring and amateur fighting. I don't know what your situation is, maybe your family doesn't have a lot of money and putting you through college would be difficult for them.

Maybe you working and pursuing a boxing career is your best path, just test the waters before you jump in.

Mohammedini
08-30-2011, 06:35 PM
Kid I understand your desire but you need to fight Amateur before you think about going pro. Do they have a amateur program in Japan? they should have so go from there instead. Don't be crazy, Fight amateur til you are around 18. depending on how well you do then you move on to pro. it's a 100 times harder then you imagine. Every fighter has to pay there dues in the AMs to become a good boxer. In the amateurs you can make mistakes, you can take loses. In pro you can't afford to lose in your early career or you will become a bum. It's harsh but true. Look up fighter different bums on boxrec. they all start with a couple of wins then lose. Fighters that get rushed in pro usually end up with a ruined career. just look up Davey moore. He had talent but got rushed before he could develop and it ruined him

moneymayforever
08-31-2011, 08:52 AM
when we take the pro test we usually get a C level license which means a boxer can participate in a 4 R fight. After they win a coupld fights and have teh necessary stamina they move onto 6 R fights aka B level license, and then moves onto 8 or more R fights and advance to the final A level boxer. i know its ****ed up thats how it is lol. people say education is so important, im thinking of going to a university that participates in the NCBA. i mean even though i turn pro i could only fight for 4 R until i progress to the next level, i thought it will be a good experience for me to go to america and gain experience there for 4 years (until i graduate) right now i need to study like ****, get good grades so my school can possibly help me out with the fee. and do boxing at the same time. its gonna be hard for the moment, but what do you guys think about my plan?

Rockin'
08-31-2011, 09:05 AM
Northern Michigan University is part of the USA boxing program. They don't have a team through the school but you can gain scholarships through usa boxing to attend Northern and train at the Olympic Training Center and possibly fight internationaly.

I had an oppertunity to get the scholarship and passed for the dumbest reasons. Looking back now they were trying to hand me gold and I didn't want it.

What ever you do with boxing is up to you but I say finish the schooling and then continue it after. Few make enough from being a fighter to make a good living. You may fight for 10 years but when its done you will need to sustain yourself by working most likely, a college education could be the difference between you being a burger flipper or a flipper of the big money corporate deals........Rockin:boxing:

Mohammedini
08-31-2011, 04:07 PM
when we take the pro test we usually get a C level license which means a boxer can participate in a 4 R fight. After they win a coupld fights and have teh necessary stamina they move onto 6 R fights aka B level license, and then moves onto 8 or more R fights and advance to the final A level boxer. i know its ****ed up thats how it is lol. people say education is so important, im thinking of going to a university that participates in the NCBA. i mean even though i turn pro i could only fight for 4 R until i progress to the next level, i thought it will be a good experience for me to go to america and gain experience there for 4 years (until i graduate) right now i need to study like ****, get good grades so my school can possibly help me out with the fee. and do boxing at the same time. its gonna be hard for the moment, but what do you guys think about my plan?You missed my point. Do they have a Am boxing program in japan? I bet they do cuz how else would they have people in the Olympics. Almost all countries in the Olympics has AB programs so you should think about AM before you go pro. If there is an alternative to pro then your idea isn't that good. Why rush it? you will probably will become a bum if you do. There is more to the game then just the physical aspect. The mental strengths, performing under pressure, experience and handling the stress of competition so on is something that you build up through AB. So if you can go Am but would rather throw yourself into pro then its a really bad idea. You are 15, so 2 years of AB before the trials.

hebi
09-01-2011, 01:08 AM
when we take the pro test we usually get a C level license which means a boxer can participate in a 4 R fight. After they win a coupld fights and have teh necessary stamina they move onto 6 R fights aka B level license, and then moves onto 8 or more R fights and advance to the final A level boxer. i know its ****ed up thats how it is lol. people say education is so important, im thinking of going to a university that participates in the NCBA. i mean even though i turn pro i could only fight for 4 R until i progress to the next level, i thought it will be a good experience for me to go to america and gain experience there for 4 years (until i graduate) right now i need to study like ****, get good grades so my school can possibly help me out with the fee. and do boxing at the same time. its gonna be hard for the moment, but what do you guys think about my plan?

Finding a school that has a boxing program would be the best route you could possibly take. Stay amateur for awhile, learn your skills, pursue your education, maybe move on to pros after you finish school. You are plenty young enough, there is no hurry to turn pro when you can hone your skills in the amateur ranks. This way you would cover all bases and be sure to succeed in life, and maybe get to live your dream as well.

moneymayforever
09-02-2011, 08:31 PM
yeah we do have an amateur boxing program in japan, but my gym doesn't actually compete in the pro or amateur rings; all we have is a sparring match held once in a while with other gyms, and for some reason whenever anyone becomes an amateur fighter or pro they just go to a bigger gym. i think my coach doesn't want to raise pro's or amateurs, its funny because he really is a good trainer.

any craic lad?
09-02-2011, 08:42 PM
Man for every Hozumi Hasgeawa that leaves school early and becomes a successful champ theres about 50 more who fail and dont have nothing to fall back on.Should get your education first man and do abitta the ams for experience.On another note do you know when Takashi Uchiyma is fighting next?

moneymayforever
09-02-2011, 09:07 PM
sorry bro, don't know about him. yeah i guess i'll just have to finish education, that is true. i might go to college so i could have a decent job in the future if something happens to me. afterall i dont have natural talent like other fighters. speaking of college, im interested in the northern michigan university. and i heard there is a boxing training program there. i'd like to train and hopefully fight there, how can i do this? if i enroll in this college can i just apply for the training?

moneymayforever
09-02-2011, 09:08 PM
if anyone who trained here could give me some advice it would be very helpful.