"One fight your promoter Joe DeGuardia mentioned to me was Joe Calzaghe, if and that's a big if, he comes to America to fight. How do you feel about that fight?"

"I said it once and I'll say it again. I'm not going to waste any time on someone who obviously has no intentions of challenging himself or taking risks to make big fights. If he feels comfortable in his hometown fighting less than stellar opponents, and if he can make a living doing things like that, that's his business. Antonio Tarver is on a mission to conquer the world and continue to prove that I am the best fighter in the world pound for pound."

I just think that Tarver completely dodged the question. Isn't anything else to add.

I just think that Tarver completely dodged the question. Isn't anything else to add.


...No, what he said was that hes not going to waste time with someone who talks the talk but never walks the walk. Anyone can call out anyone, but until he actively gets to america and actually FIGHTS SOMEONE HERE then there is no use even elaborating on any intrests at all.

I'm starting to get pissed off at Antonio Tarver. Since when does he display skills that show he could be a p4p #1 fighter..He's got decent speed, a good left hand, and a decent jab, beat an old shotty fighter in Roy Jones Jr and he thinks hes God. He's making himself look like he was better then Jones Jr cuz he beat him 3 years out of his prime. I can't wait till he gets ***** slapped if he moves to heavy. Toney will make him his *****.

I think it's a little hypocritical of Tarver to harp on about Calzaghe never leaving the UK when in fact he has, and it is Tarver that has never left the States.

And he's saying "fighting less then stellar opposition". Yes, I admit Calz has screwed around with his career in terms of big fights but Tarver's claim to fame is Roy Jones (he picks on him when he has to come down from heavie, BIG MAN THERE TARVER!). He also even said he wants some easy fights, so whose the one fighting "less then stellar opposition" now. What a ****head.

"One fight your promoter Joe DeGuardia mentioned to me was Joe Calzaghe, if and that's a big if, he comes to America to fight. How do you feel about that fight?"

"I said it once and I'll say it again. I'm not going to waste any time on someone who obviously has no intentions of challenging himself or taking risks to make big fights. If he feels comfortable in his hometown fighting less than stellar opponents, and if he can make a living doing things like that, that's his business. Antonio Tarver is on a mission to conquer the world and continue to prove that I am the best fighter in the world pound for pound."

I dont think Tarver can talk, he's the one who priced himself out of the Calzaghe fight a couple of years ago. Asking for too much money is ducking IMO, all Tarver need to do is say "if Joe want the fight i'm ready".

The fight is a bit like Tszyu vs Hatton, even though Joe has been an undisputed champ at his weight for as long as i care to remember i think he should be willing to travel because he'd be moving up in weight to face the light heavy champ but having said that, if the fight generates more money in the UK, which its likely to do they will both need to agree a location.

I'd love too see this fight becuase its the two best from their weight classes but from past experience with these two i doubt either of them wants it enough to make the fight happen.

I think it's a little hypocritical of Tarver to harp on about Calzaghe never leaving the UK when in fact he has, and it is Tarver that has never left the States.

Yes, but America is the centre of the universe!! :D

Yes, but America is the centre of the universe!! :D


Its the center of the boxing world, even if you dont like it, thats the way it is. Its a double standard that you dont have to fight outside of america to revered, whereas people who only fight in their home country are often called out for doing so. Its because america is so different from coast to coast that fighting only here is just as hostile as anywhere else. If im from Oakland, and i take a fight against Miguel Cotto in Madison Square Garden, nobody is going to be cheering for me. If im from Florida, and i take a fight in texas against Rocky Juarez, again, nobody is going to cheer for me. Thats the difference between fighting here and fighting abroad.

Its the center of the boxing world, even if you dont like it, thats the way it is. Its a double standard that you dont have to fight outside of america to revered, whereas people who only fight in their home country are often called out for doing so. Its because america is so different from coast to coast that fighting only here is just as hostile as anywhere else. If im from Oakland, and i take a fight against Miguel Cotto in Madison Square Garden, nobody is going to be cheering for me. If im from Florida, and i take a fight in texas against Rocky Juarez, again, nobody is going to cheer for me. Thats the difference between fighting here and fighting abroad.
What if Calzaghe fights Tarver in the Staples centre Los Angeles, will everyone be cheering for Calzaghe because Tarver comes from Florida?

What if Calzaghe fights Tarver in the Staples centre Los Angeles, will everyone be cheering for Calzaghe because Tarver comes from Florida?
your not really helping yourself

What if Calzaghe fights Tarver in the Staples centre Los Angeles, will everyone be cheering for Calzaghe because Tarver comes from Florida?


Nobody will be giving a **** in all honesty. Chances are the brits would come out, maybe some floridians, the crowd probably wont be trippin. Being from Florida and fighting in LA isnt gonna help you at all...

Unless your Roy Jones.

...No, what he said was that hes not going to waste time with someone who talks the talk but never walks the walk. Anyone can call out anyone, but until he actively gets to america and actually FIGHTS SOMEONE HERE then there is no use even elaborating on any intrests at all.


The question asks whether Tarver would fight Calzaghe, if Calzaghe came to fight in the US. Tarver dodges the question and instead dismisses Calzaghe entirely, despite the question presuming that Joe actually actively sought a fight in America. Therefore Tarver did not actually answer the question

I think it's a little hypocritical of Tarver to harp on about Calzaghe never leaving the UK when in fact he has, and it is Tarver that has never left the States.

The answer is no,neither has Taylor,Mayweather,Jones jr,De la hoya along with many other top american fighters.Back on to the topic
i can't see this fight taking place but if it does Tarver would come out on top.

Just to disprove the widely-held notion that "all Brits think the same" I'm actually with Tarver on this.

Who's Tarver's second most famous opponent? Glen "I'm not sayin' I'm de best, I'm just a mon who'd willin' to fight de best" Johnson.

The same Glen Johnson who trained for Calzaghe only for Calzaghe to pull out with back injuries. Calzaghe's a good fighter, maybe he could have been a great, but the sad fact is his career's been littered with missed opportunities, never-weres and injuries. Tarver's time is limited and to wait around for a guy who hasn't lived up to any potential when he might get injured anyway isn't something he should realistically be expected to do.

Calzaghe had his career-defining/making bout on a plate with Lacy. But - whether his fault or not - he blew that. He can't expect to receive charity just on potential alone.

I think it's a little hypocritical of Tarver to harp on about Calzaghe never leaving the UK when in fact he has, and it is Tarver that has never left the States.

but its differnt, there are TONS of big fights in the states, and i dont think there are biased judges, or at least not as bad as they are in britan, right now, the states is the capital of the boxing world, britan cannot say the same

but its differnt, there are TONS of big fights in the states, and i dont think there are biased judges, or at least not as bad as they are in britan, right now, the states is the capital of the boxing world, britan cannot say the same


HOLYFIELD vs LEWIS 1. Everywhere has some poor officiating, and the US is no exception
Don't be so ****ing naive about the standards of American boxing officials.




No offence intended.

HOLYFIELD vs LEWIS 1. Everywhere has some poor officiating, and the US is no exception
Don't be so ****ing naive about the standards of American boxing officials..
Very true. However Calzaghe does complain too much. He was gonn fight Johnston, fight fell through, gonna fight lacy, fight fell through, hell even the fight with Frank or Thomas Tate ( can`t remember which ) fell through. The one think common with all these failed fights is Calzaghe.
Robin reid went to the states and fought Lacy, so its not a British thing, its a Calzaghe thing. Joe wants the attention and money of a superstar while only fighting in the UK against opponents whom may have a name ( Omar Sheika, Bryron Mitchell ) but i clearly past their best at the time of the fight!

I'll give you UK guys an example of how fighting in America is different from anywhere else.
I was at the Corrales-Castillo fight in Las Vegas on Saturday.
Corrales is an American from Sacramento, California. It's about an hour or so flight from Vegas, not far at all.
Castillo is a Mexican who can't speak a word of English.
The crowd was about 90% on Castillo's side, Corrales was booed unmercifully as he made his way to the ring.
An American crowd booing their own fighter against a foreigner, it happens more often than you think.
Something like this would never happen in the UK or anywhere else in Europe.
Tarver's beaten Roy Jones and Glen Johnson, the two biggest names in his weight class, who has Calzaghe beaten of note?

I'll give you UK guys an example of how fighting in America is different from anywhere else.
I was at the Corrales-Castillo fight in Las Vegas on Saturday.
Corrales is an American from Sacramento, California. It's about an hour or so flight from Vegas, not far at all.
Castillo is a Mexican who can't speak a word of English.
The crowd was about 90% on Castillo's side, Corrales was booed unmercifully as he made his way to the ring.
An American crowd booing their own fighter against a foreigner, it happens more often than you think.
Something like this would never happen in the UK or anywhere else in Europe.
Tarver's beaten Roy Jones and Glen Johnson, the two biggest names in his weight class, who has Calzaghe beaten of note?
Well he has cleaned up the Brit scene with wins over Woodhall, Reid, Eubank and the Mitchell and Shieka fights. I don`t like Calzaghe because of his big mouth, little action but i have to say he is the only opponent at super middle for Lacy. Calzaghe`s refusal to fight the top guys time and again means only one thing: COWARD!

I like the way this thread was called "Brits what are you views on this?" and half the thread is US members slagging off Calzaghe. :)

Calzaghe's an idiot though, he wants little effort and lots of reward. Why does he even get a straight title shot at Light-Heavy if he moves up without proving himself at that weight first? Even Oscar De La Hoya had to lose to... er, beat... Felix Sturm before taking a dive against Hopkins. What makes Joe so special???

I like the way this thread was called "Brits what are you views on this?" and half the thread is US members slagging off Calzaghe. :)

Calzaghe's an idiot though, he wants little effort and lots of reward. Why does he even get a straight title shot at Light-Heavy if he moves up without proving himself at that weight first? Even Oscar De La Hoya had to lose to... er, beat... Felix Sturm before taking a dive against Hopkins. What makes Joe so special???
I've been in the USA for the last 5 years. Just moved back to UK. My absence from UK has left me with one question. Who is Calzaghe? Yes I've heard of him but what has he done of note in the last few years? Talk.
I don't understand the unwillingness to travel for a fight. Yes it's nice to have your supporters with you but HELLO!!!! in how many other sports would a champion or team get anywhere without facing quality opponents wherever they are? If you're not competing against World Class opponents you are NOT world class.
We're all unbeatable if we won't fight anyone.

One other thing, I agree Tarver is OK at best but I feel like he truly believes he is the best and wants to prove it which is creditable. I think Calzaghe is ducking and running with full self-knowledge.

I am a massive Calzaghe fan. And I have to agree, Joe needs to fight in the US. There is no point in moaning about recognition. Recognition and the big bucks comes when you take your fight to the home of modern boxing.

I've been in the USA for the last 5 years. Just moved back to UK. My absence from UK has left me with one question. Who is Calzaghe? Yes I've heard of him but what has he done of note in the last few years? Talk.
I don't understand the unwillingness to travel for a fight. Yes it's nice to have your supporters with you but HELLO!!!! in how many other sports would a champion or team get anywhere without facing quality opponents wherever they are? If you're not competing against World Class opponents you are NOT world class.
We're all unbeatable if we won't fight anyone.
I agree with this entirely.

It annoys me how many people he calls out... he's constantly slating poor old Clinton Woods. Why the **** should Woods give Calzaghe an opportunity? Woods has fought top calibre opponents and deserves his IBF title (even if it was one vacated by Glen Johnson). Calzaghe is like some guy wanting free handouts.

I'd love Calzaghe to take on Woods and Woods to knock him out. Sadly, it would probably be the other way round though.

**** joe :D

**** joe :D
Up the bum?