View Full Version : Biggest Screwjob in Boxing


Prostitroop
12-22-2004, 11:05 PM
So what is it folks?

Hurlex
12-22-2004, 11:34 PM
holy crap lol....love that avatar...screw job...as in

golata's two bs loses to byrd and ruiz

like dlh lost to tito..that kinda thing...or more

intense..like the supposed phantom punch by ali kinda thing?

Klitschko=chicken
12-22-2004, 11:36 PM
So what is it folks?

Probably one of these horrible decisions

Chavez-Whitaker :confused: (A sad day for boxing)

Leonard-Hearns 2 (these should have been some arrests made after this decision)

Tito-DLH (DLH gassed and took the championship rounds off but there is no case for Tito winning in a 10-poinst-must-system)

DLH-Quartey (probably not the worst ever but none the less a terrible decsion)

DLH-Sturm (Horrible decision and just another reason for the Euros to ***** about Americans being biased)

Byrd-Oquendo (not the worst ever but deserves an honorable mention)

Johnson-Gonzales (If you ever wanted to win a fight by getting hit alot more then your opponent, then you'll want to look up the judges who scored this fight.)

DLH-Mosley 2 (probably not the worst but deserves a mention, if boxing was like the NFL and the judges could "review" the fight, this decision would be reversed."

IwatchBoxing
12-22-2004, 11:41 PM
DLH ran from Tito because he was about to get KO'd
and yes the Byrd-Oquendo was a horrible one

Hurlex
12-22-2004, 11:41 PM
dlh/sturm still pisses me off...sturm landed over 100 more punches then dlh

Xecutioner
12-22-2004, 11:42 PM
evander/lewis I, chavez vs whitaker and glen johnson/daniel judah come to mind

Mr. Violence
12-22-2004, 11:44 PM
Whitaker Vs. Chavez (Pernell CLEARLY won)
Hagler Vs. Leonard (It was close but Hagler still won)

Klitschko=chicken
12-22-2004, 11:58 PM
DLH ran from Tito because he was about to get KO'd
and yes the Byrd-Oquendo was a horrible one

That's completely hypothetical and impossible to know or prove. Only DLH knows.

I my opinion he appeared more gassed. Tito never landed a big shot that was well timed and clean so I doubt he was hurt. Plus moving like DLH did in the first 8 will wear you out faster then throwing punches will.

Anyway, the point is that this was a horrible decision based on the 10-point-must-system. DLH inactivity in the championship rounds was not enough legitamatly sway the decision. Had he been inactive and taken alot of punishment then I could see some 10-8 rounds but that wasn't the case and those rounds shouldn't have been scored 10-8.

Hurlex
12-23-2004, 12:04 AM
it is impossible to knwo..but when u look at evidence (dlh gets wasted in energy as he goes into late rounds and is slower) and tito was connecting more...i think it may have happened...i hate dlh for that..i mean its boxing its his job..f**K!..and he still has the nerve to say..he cruised the last rounds...meaning he knew what he was doing...thats no heart

Klitschko=chicken
12-23-2004, 12:21 AM
it is impossible to knwo..but when u look at evidence (dlh gets wasted in energy as he goes into late rounds and is slower) and tito was connecting more...i think it may have happened...i hate dlh for that..i mean its boxing its his job..f**K!..and he still has the nerve to say..he cruised the last rounds...meaning he knew what he was doing...thats no heart

I don't dissagree at all, DLH seemed to be spoiled after the Camacho fight, I'm suprised he didn't get stopped beofore fighting his daddy (Bernard Hopkins).

The counterside of this fight that alot of people ignore is that Tito couldn't do anyting to an inactive DLH. Tito wasn't landing good shots on DLH at anypoint in the fight. The shots he did land were all of the shoulers,gloves,and top of the head.

DLH Definatly lost the last 4 rounds pulling what appeared to be a heartless stunt, but since Tito could really do anything about it, the rounds shouldn't have been scored 10-8.

itsbusdriver
12-23-2004, 12:35 AM
I agree with Hurlex.. DLH definitely lost my respect in that fight..

reebox8225
12-23-2004, 01:06 AM
Burton-Agustus, That was just flat out wrong.

Prostitroop
12-23-2004, 01:13 AM
Yeah, that's probably one of the most recognizable screwjobs ever. I believe the reason sturm was screwed was to make the upcoming ppv more marketable. It turned out to be a huge grossing PPV, especially with the hispanic community. Imagine what kind of revenue would be generated if it was Hopkins Vs. Sturm. Two fairly unknown names, Especially Strum. Nobody would bother ordering that fight, and the hispanic community wouldn't have gave a rats ass about whos fighting. In fact, they wouldn't have even known there was a ppv going on. So sadly... Yeah, Sturm was screwed over. I understand his discontent.

Here's a small tribute to Sturm

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/518/9575sturm2.jpg

Tha Greatest
12-23-2004, 02:43 AM
tha reason DLH won tha sturm fight was cuz everyone wanted to see hopkins-dlh

not cuz he was impressive which he wasnt at all

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-23-2004, 04:16 AM
DLH vs Hop. They screwed the public of 60 bucks per house and all the ringside tickets so that DLH could put on an acting class.

Prostitroop
12-23-2004, 04:29 AM
Exactly... That's what I just said. I was just more in-depth

Prostitroop
12-23-2004, 04:34 AM
Every PPV is a damn screwjob. $49.99 plus tax for a lousy card (most which are fixed), plus they get replayed within a week for free. And you losers fall for their gimmicks! :D

oldgringo
12-23-2004, 04:36 AM
Taylor/Chavez - If the man is going to put on the boxing performance of the century, and showed the courage to get up after being brutally knocked down with all of 6 seconds left...LET HIM FINISH THE FIGHT RICHARD STEELE YOU ****ING DOUCHEBAG. :mad: I've always been bitter about that.

Whitaker/Chavez - Whitaker should have broken out his celly and dialed 911 because he was shamelessly robbed. Made JCC look like **** for 12 rounds and the judges **** on him for doing it.

DLH/Trinidad - 'Nuff said.

Oquendo/Byrd - I remember just taking a shot of whisky after the fight and asking myself, "what kind of bull**** decision was that?"

Wallace/Indiana Pacers - Ben Wallace was suspended 6!!! games for shoving the always looney Ron Artest...afterwards a brawl broke out in the stands because of a dumb fan and because Artest is a headcase. Its ****ing with the Stons early season sucess and Wallace would have been given a meager suspension had Gaytest not snapped and ran off into the crowd. :mad:

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-23-2004, 04:38 AM
Every PPV is a damn screwjob. $49.99 plus tax for a lousy card (most which are fixed), plus they get replayed within a week for free. And you losers fall for their gimmicks! :D

Yeah thats the thing though.. some of the fights are fixed with the judges but they still turn out to be FIGHTS.. this 60 dollar pay per view was one of the most expensive to date, yet.. it wasnt even a fight.. i hate to quote don king cus i dont like him but that was a damn swimming lesson like he said. And Oscar quit by taking the easiest way out and putting on an acting lesson so his stock wouldnt go down.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-23-2004, 04:40 AM
it's funny because im bitter over a fight i didnt shell out a penny to see because i wasnt really all that interested in.

Mr. Violence
12-23-2004, 04:41 AM
I forgot to add Mercer Vs. Lewis to my list.

Prostitroop
12-23-2004, 04:47 AM
Every PPV is a damn screwjob. $49.99 plus tax for a lousy card (most which are fixed), plus they get replayed within a week for free. And you losers fall for their gimmicks!Yeah thats the thing though.. some of the fights are fixed with the judges but they still turn out to be FIGHTS.. this 60 dollar pay per view was one of the most expensive to date, yet.. it wasnt even a fight.. i hate to quote don king cus i dont like him but that was a damn swimming lesson like he said. And Oscar quit by taking the easiest way out and putting on an acting lesson so his stock wouldnt go down.
Yeah, it was one of the most expenisve and most anticipated fights in a long time. It ended up being of the highest grossing ppv's ever. I think it broke records. These poor idiots thought they had a good fight to look foward to while the CEO's and executives had $$ signs in their dilated pupils.

Just read my previous post
Yeah, that's probably one of the most recognizable screwjobs ever. I believe the reason sturm was screwed was to make the upcoming ppv more marketable. It turned out to be a huge grossing PPV, especially with the hispanic community. Imagine what kind of revenue would be generated if it was Hopkins Vs. Sturm. Two fairly unknown names, Especially Strum. Nobody would bother ordering that fight, and the hispanic community wouldn't have gave a rats ass about whos fighting. In fact, they wouldn't have even known there was a ppv going on. So sadly... Yeah, Sturm was screwed over. I understand his discontent.

Here's a small tribute to Sturm

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/518/9575sturm2.jpg

Supafly25
12-23-2004, 05:55 AM
Which rounds in ODLH vs Trinidad were scored 10-8 for Trinidad?

wissy
12-23-2004, 09:52 AM
Whitaker vs Chavez
Lewis vs Holyfield

Those were obvious screwjobs as the fighter who dominated hardcore did not get the win. However, don't feel too bad for em, that at least got the draw. The worst i have seen are:

Ottke vs Teddy Reid
Ottke vs Mars Larsen
Ottke vs Byron Mitchell
Tapia vs Medina

These were fights where the WINNER, did not get a win but in fact got a LOSS for their troubles. Ludicrous. Stuff like this kills boxing.

klev1
12-23-2004, 02:00 PM
I agree with Wissy's top 2 (lewis vs holyfield, chavez vs. whitaker)...but I HAVE TO thrown in Oquendo's loss to Byrd.

SweetScience
12-23-2004, 02:02 PM
Hagler Vs. Leonard (It was close but Hagler still won)

Hagler DID NOT win...Leonard won the fight YES it was close. Watch it again, it's been discussed many times. 115-113

Xecutioner
12-23-2004, 03:30 PM
i also scored the fight for ray leonard, in no way was it a robbery.

Xecutioner
12-23-2004, 03:32 PM
im wondering have any of you guys seen judah/glen johnson? i had judah winning maybe a round, 2 at best. it was more of a robbery than whitaker/chavez or lewis/holyfield I . daniel judah post fight interview "i thought i lost" LOL

Klitschko=chicken
12-23-2004, 05:50 PM
Which rounds in ODLH vs Trinidad were scored 10-8 for Trinidad?
9-12. That's why it was a robbery, DLH clearly won the first 8 and the last 4 had to be scored 10-8 for Tito in order for him to get the decision.

Unless of course some of the judges scored some of the first 8 even which would have been just as absurd as giving Tito 10-8 rounds at the end.

trinidadpr87
12-23-2004, 09:53 PM
im wondering have any of you guys seen judah/glen johnson? i had judah winning maybe a round, 2 at best. it was more of a robbery than whitaker/chavez or lewis/holyfield I . daniel judah post fight interview "i thought i lost" LOL
you mean joppy vs. glen johnson :confused:

gravity62
12-23-2004, 10:19 PM
DLH ran the last 3 rounds not the last 4. Which is rounds 10-12. No rounds were scored 10-8 in that fight, and yes, some of the first 9 rounds were scored for Trinidad.

One of the biggest screwjobs in boxing IMO is having the official Weigh-in the day before the fight letting fighters gain as much weight as they want before the fight. Look at the difference Kostya Tzu and Alexus Arguello. Kostya looks like a jr. middleweight. There should never be a huge weight advantage between fighters in the divisions below heavyweight. Somthing needed to be done about guys being dehydrated before fights but this is not it.

Kimmy
12-23-2004, 10:29 PM
On reflection, the Trinidad Win over De La Hoya stank of.....DON KING! It was a robbery and I hope Tito gets outpointed by Ronald Wright

MetalVomit
12-23-2004, 10:34 PM
DLH ran from Tito because he was about to get KO'd
and yes the Byrd-Oquendo was a horrible one


Yes, I heard its true that when you make a superstar boxer look like a fool for 9 straight rounds and fighting the fight of your life, you "run" not because your a little exhausted and need to catch your breath, but because your scared. Why do people even say that Oscar was afraid of Tito? He made Tito his girlfriend for 3 quarters of the fight.Unbelievable, some of boxing's fans are as bad as the judges. I think IwatchBoxing is puerto rican. Ive said this many times, I have not met too many non puerto ricans that thought Tito won that fight. for 75% of the fight, Oscar made Tito look stupid.

scramwarrior
12-23-2004, 10:36 PM
So what is it folks?
Leonard-Hearnes, easily.

IwatchBoxing
12-23-2004, 10:36 PM
Yes, I heard its true that when you make a superstar boxer look like a fool for 9 straight rounds and fighting the fight of your life, you "run" not because your out of gas, but because your gonna get knocked out...... I think IwatchBoxing is puerto rican. Ive said this many times, I have not met too many non puerto ricans that thought Tito won that fight. for 75% of the fight, Oscar made Tito look stupid.Hey Freitas was aslo wining the early rounds against Corrales
and guess what he ran outta gas :D

Yogi
12-24-2004, 04:10 AM
In my opinion, the worst decision in boxing history was Johnny Famechon getting the win over Fighting Harada in their first fight, which took place in Famechon's homeland of Australia. I gave Famechon a grand total of two of the fifteen rounds in that fight, which is an opinion echoed by everyone who has seen the fight (they all think Johhny won between one and three rounds, in total). The fight was very one-sided in favour of Harada, and a blind man could see it as such.

The fight was initially called a draw by Willie Pep, but when the crowd boo'ed that decision he gathered with other ringside officials for a couple of minutes, changed his scorecard and then declared Famechon the winner...The crowd then boo'ed even louder, and gave Harada a big cheer when he bowed to them. Willie Pep thought the first outbreak of booing meant different, but the crowd thought Harada should've got the decision all along.

I've seen all of the other fights mentioned in this thread, and in terms of a robbery, none of them compare to the ridiculous scoring in that Famechon/Harada fight.

JaNnO
12-24-2004, 03:47 PM
On reflection, the Trinidad Win over De La Hoya stank of.....DON KING! It was a robbery and I hope Tito gets outpointed by Ronald Wright

I agree with Kimmy on this.

RobbieD
12-25-2004, 04:25 PM
DLH vs. Trinidad and Mosley are obvious stand outs but I can't believe Danny Williams lost to Michael Sprott this year for the Britigh heavyweight title. Awful fight but Williams hardly took a shot and Sprott's face was battered and picture said a thousand words.

`STEELHEAD
12-26-2004, 03:09 AM
i agree with all you guys but i think you should add emanual augustus/courtney burton 2004. emanual was outright robbed. it drove teddy atlas to the wall. emanuals lost so many bouts
from acting like a clown then a lion and seems to shoot himself in the foot. but you know what. he's so dangerous you wont see no top contender our belt holders take a chance on a low money fight. he's a joy to watch. he's nuts.

KJ
12-26-2004, 05:29 AM
Hagler Vs. Leonard (It was close but Hagler still won)

I agree. And afterwards Leonard kept on telling he would not fight again and kept saying he was retired again until the Hagler ultimatum for the remach had passed and Hagler himself finally retired. Only that dared leonard to return to boxing.
Makes you wonder who in de mind of Leonard was the winner: Hagler!

KJ
12-26-2004, 05:37 AM
Hagler DID NOT win...Leonard won the fight YES it was close. Watch it again, it's been discussed many times. 115-113

In AMATURE boxing a slab counts as the same as a power punch.

I have seen it many times, and in my opinion Hagler DID WIN the fight (and Judge Lou Filippo was right and Judge Jose J. Guerra bought).

trephination
12-26-2004, 12:26 PM
lewis vs holyfield 1
roy jones in the olympics

Mr. Violence
12-26-2004, 04:58 PM
In AMATURE boxing a slab counts as the same as a power punch.

I have seen it many times, and in my opinion Hagler DID WIN the fight (and Judge Lou Filippo was right and Judge Jose J. Guerra bought).


I agree 100%. Hagler was the agresser in that fight he also landed the SOLID shots....while Leonard ran like a little girl and hit Hagler with girly taps...which wouldn't hurt a flea. Hagler also rocked Leonard in the 9th round. Again it was close but Hagler won that fight. HAGLER BEAT LEONARD...HAGLER GOT RIPPED OFF

sigrab jr
05-29-2010, 04:39 PM
So what is it folks?

I'm not sure which one it was in boxing other than Jones in the Olympics. I know in WWF it was Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels.

BoxerDood
05-29-2010, 04:50 PM
De La Hoya-Sturm was ridiculous.

P4P Opinion
05-29-2010, 04:53 PM
Hah, I made a topic about the Chavez - Whitaker robbery in the history folder minutes ago. So I'm voting for that.

Whitaker was utterly robbed, possibly by Don King corruption.