Is JMM going after boxing glory by unifying the featherweight division first and face Injin Chi (WBC) or Harrison (WBA),or is he going straight for money and restore back the Mexican pride by taking on the Pacman first who is keen on burning his path through Mexico?

*sigh*

I mean seriously

what is this like 400th post on this same damn subject from you guys?

*sigh*

I mean seriously

what is this like 400th post on this same damn subject from you guys?

wtf -- are you high again tonight jose? give us a break would you?

save it

Uh..uh...uh does JMM have the balls to face the Pac man....Mexican this Mexican that..uh...uh.... burn though Mexico...blah...blah...blah

*yawn*

save it

Uh..uh...uh does JMM have the balls to face the Pac man....Mexican this Mexican that..uh...uh.... burn though Mexico...blah...blah...blah

*yawn*

:eek: what a certified retard. what r u sayin' dude? i don't see anything wrong with my my post.

*** tsk, tsk, tsk ***

Chicken Gay

:eek: what a certified retard. what r u sayin' dude? i don't see anything wrong with my my post.

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lol...that was evobosm!!! :D :D :D

I agree with Jose...this **** is quite redundant.

I agree with Jose...this **** is quite redundant.

i can't remember seeing a topic like this before except for some racial comments and endless bickerings on some pac/jmm/mab/em-related posts from some flips and mexs. but those were normal occurences in a forum like this, due to bias and differences in opinion. on the other hand, this topic is a very sensible query about jmm's next move.

old gringo...you must be jokin' boy. i didn't ask for your opinion. for one thing, please respect other people's action and point of view here. this forum is a medium to express one's opinion and find answers about boxing. i didn't start anything trash here, so just chill out and shut your mouth up if you don't have anything good to say!!!

:mad: :p :cool:

i can't remember seeing a topic like this before except for some racial comments and endless bickerings from some flips and mexs. but they are normal occurences in a forum like this due to bias and differences in opinion. this topic is a very sensible query about jmm's next move.

old gringo...you must be jokin' boy. i didn't ask for your opinion. for one thing, please respect other people's action and point of view here. this forum is a medium to express one's opinion and find answers about boxing. i didn't start anything trash here, so just chill out and shut your mouth up if you don't have anything good to say!!!

:mad: :p :cool:

First of all I'm not a "boy"...and secondly you are the one who says that this is a forum to express one's opinion right? My opinion is that this **** is quite redundant. No harm no foul...you can't deal with my opinion? It's quite obvious that you are the one getting all emotional and crazy. I said nothing but MY OPINION...nothing more Janno...you are the one that needs to chill out and take your own advice.

First of all I'm not a "boy"...and secondly you are the one who says that this is a forum to express one's opinion right? My opinion is that this **** is quite redundant. No harm no foul...you can't deal with my opinion? It's quite obvious that you are the one getting all emotional and crazy. I said nothing but MY OPINION...nothing more Janno...you are the one that needs to chill out and take your own advice.

there's nothing wrong with your opinion-- t'was your choice of word. it was immature, man!

JMM just beat Salido, and true to his word he is calling out the PACman. Thats who he wants and he said he would be ready to fight pac as early as december.

Just like he said he would do long a go.

The question seems is pacquiao gonna go after boxing money and fight against Morales or is he gonna fight Marquez and finish unfinished business and thus restoring Phillipino pride.

Is JMM going after boxing glory by unifying the featherweight division first and face Injin Chi (WBC) or Harrison (WBA),or is he going straight for money and restore back the Mexican pride by taking on the Pacman first who is keen on burning his path through Mexico?

First of all to jose and oldgringo, THERE ARE ****ING 17 PAGES OF THREADS IN THIS FORUM. YOU DON'T LIKEM AND FEEL THAT THEY ARE REDUNDANT? D-O-N'T G-O I-N T-H-E-M!! Simple! Geeez, instead of whining like lil retarded kids, just ignore these threads if you wish! I mean come onnnnn, that's common sense...

Heck, you know what? Just to piss you guys off, THE 3MS ARE CHICKEN GAY!!!!

To answer to the post,
I think JMM would want to you unify the belts. I do think that it's time for JMM to step into the deep end of the division. Not just Pac. MAB, Harrison, Chi should all be on his wishlist for 2005.Enough with these patsy opponents. What will determine next year's schedule is the MAB/Morales outcome.

That's right people you don't like the thread? . . . . keep away from it, there are just so many threads to choose from. You got free choices . . . . :cool:

I think Morales-Barerra fight is connected with what will happen 2005 if Erik beats MAB he will call out Pac for another big game before going to 135 and Arum like the businessman that he is will present Erick to Team Pac he knows what ever the outcome of the Manny-Erik bout, the Pac-JMM Fight is still HOT, so while on the sideline JMM will focus his attention on either Injin or Scott.

What do you think guys Am I making any sense???

I think Morales-Barerra fight is connected with what will happen 2005 if Erik beats MAB he will call out Pac for another big game before going to 135 and Arum like the businessman that he is will present Erick to Team Pac he knows what ever the outcome of the Manny-Erik bout, the Pac-JMM Fight is still HOT, so while on the sideline JMM will focus his attention on either Injin or Scott.

What do you think guys Am I making any sense???



There are just so many open options out there, while it's true that the results of that MAB/Morales fight will affect and influence probable fights in 2005 Manny won't run out of options. If MAB wins that Pac/MAB II will be in order. If Eric wins it's Pac/Morales. If both fight doesn't materializes a Harrison and Chi fights are good options too.

i say screw these topics (no offense dude i think ur thread was a good q)..but i am saying lets wait till the winner of mab/morales..and see if manny can get by st.calir before going off the deep end...until then ..u boys better play nice :mad:

old gringo...you must be jokin' boy. i didn't ask for your opinion. :mad: :p :cool:

Posting it on the forum IS asking everybody's opinion...or so I thought.

i say screw these topics (no offense dude i think ur thread was a good q)..but i am saying lets wait till the winner of mab/morales..and see if manny can get by st.calir before going off the deep end...until then ..u boys better play nice :mad:


Hey Hurlex with all due respect . . .if you don't like this thread then by all means get out of here and stick to the thread you love most. What's your problem? If your can't contribute anything sensible . . . something of value in a thread then stop the habbit of injecting BULL**** COMMENTS. we all have the liberty of choosing on which thread to respond to . . . right?

Posting it on the forum IS asking everybody's opinion...or so I thought.

did you look at the prior posts?

i was asking opinion about jmm's future plans and not whether it was a good topic or not. there's a big difference between the two. the problem is -- some people rather than posting sensible replies, try to discredit the post and/or the poster which is not very respectable.

there are a lot of options for JMM, Manny, Barerra and even Morales next year I just hope that I will see next year PacMan-El Terrible & PacMan-Dinamita.....

i dont think that after pac beats JMM that he will be in a position to dictate who he fights

morales wont be interested in a jmm fight after pac cause these two will be fighters he has already beaten

i dont think that after pac beats JMM that he will be in a position to dictate who he fights

morales wont be interested in a jmm fight after pac cause these two will be fighters he has already beaten

"after pac beats JMM"?? Like it's a forgone conclusion. JMM got nailed hard the first round or two, and then came back to completely and throughly outbox Manny in the remaining rounds. I happen to like BOTH fighter's , but I truly believe that the rematch will go just like the first fight; minus the knockdowns. Without them, you've got JMM winning a UD, unless Pac does some serious game changing thing's in the ring.

JMM won't be an undisputed featherweight champion without facing Pac the second time around. And I think that he's facing Pac in Feb. that is if Arum would keep his words to Murad.

Let's get back to the topic. I would say, if he needs to prove something, JMM has to fight Pac-Man not any other so called champion. Pac-Man is the man at 126. So fighting any other gains nothing for JMM.

"after pac beats JMM"?? Like it's a forgone conclusion. JMM got nailed hard the first round or two, and then came back to completely and throughly outbox Manny in the remaining rounds. I happen to like BOTH fighter's , but I truly believe that the rematch will go just like the first fight; minus the knockdowns. Without them, you've got JMM winning a UD, unless Pac does some serious game changing thing's in the ring.


I beg to disagree, Tracy. . .the Pac that you saw in that fight is not a 100% healthy. If you saw how PAC moves against MAB, LUCERO or LEBWADA then you'll probably believe me. JMM couldn't have lasted up to the 5th round if Pac was not handicapped by his injured lefthand and blistered foot.

On THE REMATCH? JMM will be very very cautious . . . but I'll still predict PAC by K.O. or T.K.O. within 8 rounds. ;)

JMM may be the most technically sound fighter at his weight, but unless he overcomes his sweet counterpunching style, he won't ever get the respect he rightfully deserves in the eyes of the public.
A draw is a draw, and JMM is tough. But remember how Hopkins fought for eternity to earn that respect. Up to now, people doubt him because of his over-cautious style. I think he is the most intelligent fighter out there, but I'd rather watch a ****fight than watch him look cute against a stuffed-up middleweight.

i think hell face pac first.

I beg to disagree, Tracy. . .the Pac that you saw in that fight is not a 100% healthy. If you saw how PAC moves against MAB, LUCERO or LEBWADA then you'll probably believe me. JMM couldn't have lasted up to the 5th round if Pac was not handicapped by his injured lefthand and blistered foot.

On THE REMATCH? JMM will be very very cautious . . . but I'll still predict PAC by K.O. or T.K.O. within 8 rounds. ;)

You dont have to beg...just say I'm wrong... :p ( I love that phrase....beg to differ!!!)
I saw him against Barrera, and I dont recall him "moving" around alot then either. I remember him beating the hell out of Marco :( who remeined stationary most of the night (big mistake) and paid the price for it.) Unless I'm completely remembering that fight wrong, that's what I saw. Manny had no need to move aroud much with MAB, he basically stormed into the ring and completely swarmed him! :eek: I didnt see much technique; but I saw much ass whipping. I hope it goes completely different in a rematch with Barrera too.
Back to JMM. I watched him take alot of serious, fight ending blows from Manny, and I also saw him get back up after each and every one of them. He learned quick (you gotta give him that) and there were no more of those knock downs after he started using the ring and his talent and I know ya'll hate it when some of us say this, but that doesnt make it not true. JMM completely out-boxed Manny after the early round drama was over and if it had gone 15 rd's he would have won a decision decisively.
Some keep predicting a knock out....healthy or not, Manny still had his power that night, and yet he never knocked JMM out. Why are you so convinced he will in the rematch? What makes you think JMM is just gonna stand there and give him that chance? He's way too good and too smart for that. If he survived the first 2 rds with Manny he will definately survive and prosper in the rematch. But, then again, that's just my opinion

I saw him against Barrera, and I dont recall him "moving" around alot then either. I remember him beating the hell out of Marco :( who remeined stationary most of the night (big mistake) and paid the price for it.) Unless I'm completely remembering that fight wrong, that's what I saw. Manny had no need to move aroud much with MAB, he basically stormed into the ring and completely swarmed him! :eek: I didnt see much technique; but I saw much ass whipping. I hope it goes completely different in a rematch with Barrera too.
Back to JMM. I watched him take alot of serious, fight ending blows from Manny, and I also saw him get back up after each and every one of them. He learned quick (you gotta give him that) and there were no more of those knock downs after he started using the ring and his talent and I know ya'll hate it when some of us say this, but that doesnt make it not true. JMM completely out-boxed Manny after the early round drama was over and if it had gone 15 rd's he would have won a decision decisively.
Some keep predicting a knock out....healthy or not, Manny still had his power that night, and yet he never knocked JMM out. Why are you so convinced he will in the rematch? What makes you think JMM is just gonna stand there and give him that chance? He's way too good and too smart for that. If he survived the first 2 rds with Manny he will definately survive and prosper in the rematch. But, then again, that's just my opinion ;)

tracy lee, that's how we are Pac Fans we don't expect manny to just win, we expect him to KO the other guy, be it JMM, MAB or EM, plus my unbiased opinion JMM will win on points if he manages to go the distance....

although I am totally convince that he will win by KO, these top guys are so good that only a few inches separates them, Manny's advantage is his left straight, during the Pac-JMM I fight after the 1st round pac lost his edge, he lost the sting, JMM adapted well and countered perfectly resulting in the draw...

tracy lee, that's how we are Pac Fans we don't expect manny to just win, we expect him to KO the other guy, be it JMM, MAB or EM, plus my unbiased opinion JMM will win on points if he manages to go the distance....

although I am totally convince that he will win by KO, these top guys are so good that only a few inches separates them, Manny's advantage is his left straight, during the Pac-JMM I fight after the 1st round pac lost his edge, he lost the sting, JMM adapted well and countered perfectly resulting in the draw...

Either I'm completely nut's or you just posted that JMM would win on pt's if it went the distance??? :eek: If thats not a typo, then I KNOW I'm debating with an objective fan for a change...and it's about time!
Like I said, I think JMM will fight smarter in the rematch and not get caught by that vicious left of Manny's ....or atleast not so many times.
I also believe that Pac doesnt want any part of Erik Morales (or shouldnt want!!)..he's just too much for Manny to handle. Hell, Morales is too much for just about anybody to handle..the only guy that really came close was Barrera, and that's questionable. They had a "hate" thing going on, so I dont think that just cause Manny beat MAB he can automatically compete with Morales.

Either I'm completely nut's or you just posted that JMM would win on pt's if it went the distance??? :eek: If thats not a typo, then I KNOW I'm debating with an objective fan for a change...and it's about time!
Like I said, I think JMM will fight smarter in the rematch and not get caught by that vicious left of Manny's ....or atleast not so many times.
I also believe that Pac doesnt want any part of Erik Morales (or shouldnt want!!)..he's just too much for Manny to handle. Hell, Morales is too much for just about anybody to handle..the only guy that really came close was Barrera, and that's questionable. They had a "hate" thing going on, so I dont think that just cause Manny beat MAB he can automatically compete with Morales.

Tracy, its not a typo, most of us Pac Fans at our site agrees on this, we give credit where credit is due, JMM is a technically sound fighter, and will fight a smarter fight, but I will bet all my moolah that he will taste canvas again come Pac-JMM II....

As for Morales, EM is Team Pacs main target, biggest fight out their for Pac and will take him on next year....

Tracy, its not a typo, most of us Pac Fans at our site agrees on this, we give credit where credit is due, JMM is a technically sound fighter, and will fight a smarter fight, but I will bet all my moolah that he will taste canvas again come Pac-JMM II....

As for Morales, EM is Team Pacs main target, biggest fight out their for Pac and will take him on next year....

Good karma for you! ( that should help your pt's out a bit :) ) and I agree, JMM just might hit the canvas atleast once....but I bet all my moolah that it's only once :D . So, come fight night, you and I may have to work something out, huh?

Good karma for you! ( that should help your pt's out a bit :) ) and I agree, JMM just might hit the canvas atleast once....but I bet all my moolah that it's only once :D . So, come fight night, you and I may have to work something out, huh?

Agreed, I'm still saving on points, and come fight night I'll look for you, we just go for straight bets, OK...

Agreed, I'm still saving on points, and come fight night I'll look for you, we just go for straight bets, OK...

You got it :D

You got it :D

Okey we have a deal, and thanks for the karma & points, more savings for the bet for me...

Okey we have a deal, and thanks for the karma & points, more savings for the bet for me...

Youre welcome...although I though it would give you alot more than that!! :o

Youre welcome...although I though it would give you alot more than that!! :o

Thats more than enough...

OK Tracy I better be going, I'll look for you on Pac next big fight...

Thansk again....

You dont have to beg...just say I'm wrong... ( I love that phrase....beg to differ!!!)
I saw him against Barrera, and I dont recall him "moving" around alot then either. I remember him beating the hell out of Marco who remeined stationary most of the night (big mistake) and paid the price for it.) Unless I'm completely remembering that fight wrong, that's what I saw. Manny had no need to move aroud much with MAB, he basically stormed into the ring and completely swarmed him! I didnt see much technique; but I saw much ass whipping. I hope it goes completely different in a rematch with Barrera too.
Back to JMM. I watched him take alot of serious, fight ending blows from Manny, and I also saw him get back up after each and every one of them. He learned quick (you gotta give him that) and there were no more of those knock downs after he started using the ring and his talent and I know ya'll hate it when some of us say this, but that doesnt make it not true. JMM completely out-boxed Manny after the early round drama was over and if it had gone 15 rd's he would have won a decision decisively.
Some keep predicting a knock out....healthy or not, Manny still had his power that night, and yet he never knocked JMM out. Why are you so convinced he will in the rematch? What makes you think JMM is just gonna stand there and give him that chance? He's way too good and too smart for that. If he survived the first 2 rds with Manny he will definately survive and prosper in the rematch. But, then again, that's just my opinion

:D No Tracy I don't want to sound rude . . . I can't tell you straight you are wrong because we are HYPOTHETIC here . . . that rematch hasn't hapened yet so everything are just our opinions :)

Anyway when I mentioned Pac's movement against MAB what I meant was his lateral upper body movement. . . bobling and weaving. You are right Pac didn't have to move that much because MAB wants to slug it out but was out punched. When Pac fought JMM he did it with square shoulder face front because he cannot do his usual positioning that makes avoid punches and gives him angles to throw his bombs. Manny still has his power that night? No Tracy, it was his killer left hand that was sprained and hurting that's why he cannot hurt JMM with it anymore.

Undeniably JMM really outboxed Pac from round 3 to 8 because of him being handicapped but Pac was able to rally back in the later rounds (9 to 12) to secure enough points to have won that fight. I'm not taking anything away from JMM, he did showed a great heart and tremendous counter punching skills but if he is smart to make adjustment in their second meeting expect Pac to do the same. ;)

Pac will beat JMM in their rematch. JMM couldnt hurt Pac with his best shots before and he won't be able to in the rematch. Freddie Roach and Pac just gotta find a more effective way and thee is alwyays a more effective way. He'll land that punch and it'll be fresh.

You got it :D

Ms. Tracylee, Storm here waitin for your positive reply to the good karma I sent you the other day :D Pls do send some so I can join jomapac and you in your straight bets on the JMM-Pac 2 fight :D

Ms. Tracylee, Storm here waitin for your positive reply to the good karma I sent you the other day :D Pls do send some so I can join jomapac and you in your straight bets on the JMM-Pac 2 fight :D

Already done, and thanks for sending to me :)

this may have been discussed, as i have just skipped to the last page but i sincerely believe that harrison will demolish JMM, Barrera and Chi - not pac though,

however if he tries to unify the belts and puts his belts on the line against harrison, he will end up with no belts

Come on harrison !!!!

this may have been discussed, as i have just skipped to the last page but i sincerely believe that harrison will demolish JMM, Barrera and Chi - not pac though,

however if he tries to unify the belts and puts his belts on the line against harrison, he will end up with no belts

Come on harrison !!!!

I dunno about demolish, I mean you're talking about 3 of the toughest featherweights out there.

this may have been discussed, as i have just skipped to the last page but i sincerely believe that harrison will demolish JMM, Barrera and Chi - not pac though,

however if he tries to unify the belts and puts his belts on the line against harrison, he will end up with no belts

Come on harrison !!!!



:D I like that opinion . . . . I would really wanted to see Harison imposing his will on JMM and Chi.

That makes the featherweight division one of the most exciting divisions at present. :cool: