View Full Version : How much is TOO MUCH!! road work?


ghns1133
07-17-2011, 02:14 PM
Ive heard sotries about guys like marciano and hagler running 10-15 miles....

did they do that everyday?

whats the ideal amount and is it pointless to do that much cause it could be over training...

i guess it depends on the person....

but what do u guys think???????

Sugarj
07-17-2011, 06:07 PM
A decent competing runner will cover over 100 miles a week. But not professional boxers.

James J Jeffries boasted that he used to run 12 miles a day, but frankly I don't think his pace was that great over the distance. That sort of distance to a heavyweight is very conducive to injury.

More recently I once read an interview that said Marco Antonio Barrera believed in running 10 miles a day even when out of training camp. Also that Timothy Bradley once ran 15 miles the day of a fight because he was jittery! But it cant be that common.

Boxing is very much an anaerobic exercise too, with great varieties of pace.....very explosive. A distance training run every day would compromise energy levels and time to work on fight specific training such as interval training, floorwork/abdominal work, bag work, focus mitt sessions, weights and most importantly sparring.

I don't doubt that a longer run (10-15 miles) perhaps once or twice a week might figure in some fighters training camps.....but not every day. Shorter runs, sprints, hill reps etc are much more likely.

ghns1133
07-17-2011, 06:31 PM
A decent competing runner will cover over 100 miles a week. But not professional boxers.

James J Jeffries boasted that he used to run 12 miles a day, but frankly I don't think his pace was that great over the distance. That sort of distance to a heavyweight is very conducive to injury.

More recently I once read an interview that said Marco Antonio Barrera believed in running 10 miles a day even when out of training camp. Also that Timothy Bradley once ran 15 miles the day of a fight because he was jittery! But it cant be that common.

Boxing is very much an anaerobic exercise too, with great varieties of pace.....very explosive. A distance training run every day would compromise energy levels and time to work on fight specific training such as interval training, floorwork/abdominal work, bag work, focus mitt sessions, weights and most importantly sparring.

I don't doubt that a longer run (10-15 miles) perhaps once or twice a week might figure in some fighters training camps.....but not every day. Shorter runs, sprints, hill reps etc are much more likely.

sounds reasonable

KeepOnPushing
07-17-2011, 09:59 PM
some of those guys that are able to pull that off because they have been doing it so long it's pretty much second nature to them, so 8-15 miles to us sounds like death if we had to do it everyday...

also me personally i dont think the whole 10-15 everyday is necessary , maybe a few times out the week , but like the other poster said Shorter runs with a lot of explosion type running and explosion drills i think are just as important....

josh-hill
07-18-2011, 11:59 AM
i was wondering about this too. i was watching the tour de france at the weekend and decided i want to do that next year. not compete obviously, but do the circuit in my holiday from uni. but i personaly think that anything over a mile is useless because it is aerobic and boxing is anaerobic.

also, cycling for 10 hours a day (or running for 10 miles) will build up huge amounts of slow twitch muscles, which are useless for boxing. so what do you guys think? should i go for it, or will it impact badly on my boxing? thanks

Barn
07-18-2011, 01:28 PM
Carmen Basilio one of the best endurance fighters of all time, run 4 miles per day. Increasing sprint intervals as the fight camp went underway until he was sprinting two miles out of the four.

josh-hill
07-18-2011, 02:56 PM
Carmen Basilio one of the best endurance fighters of all time, run 4 miles per day. Increasing sprint intervals as the fight camp went underway until he was sprinting two miles out of the four.

i would say his insane endurance was probably down to him training with sprint intervals for a very long time, rather than running for a very long time. just jogging 4 miles wouldn't be half as good.

Sugarj
07-18-2011, 06:21 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about slow twitch muscle fibres in individuals who run distances at around the 10 mile mark.

A half decent athlete/boxer will run ten miles at a quick pace regardless. There would, I agree be little point in running the distance any slower than 8 minute miles........and in some cases much faster. Plus all the other boxing training.........sprints, skipping (doubles in particular) would keep the fast twitch fibres in check.