I've heard it said before by many people that they think Mayweather might be able to outpoint Tsyzu. Mayweather is a highly skilled defensive boxer no doubt. But can he last if Tszyu lands a shot on him? We all know how hard Tszyu hits. I'm unbiased about this, :D so give your opinions.

I don't think so!

Zoo would catch him eventually.

Mayweather would outbox and out class him

Zoo didnt KO Urkal, Tackie, or Leija. Floyd would box circles around him and make him look like Frankenstien

KT will eventully catch floyd...mitchell was fast and still got hit...i mean unless u really expect for mayweather not t get hit once threw all fight...come on..

KT will eventully catch floyd...mitchell was fast and still got hit...i mean unless u really expect for mayweather not t get hit once threw all fight...come on..
You act like Floyd has a glass jaw. So what if he hits Floyd. He hasnt KO everyone. He didnt KO Tackie, Leija, or Urkal, and Harris KO Urkal. Floyd has never been down. He can take a punch and he will be scoring alot. People always make it sound like the whole fight will be Floyd running until he gets hit and then its over. The guy is a undefeated #for# fighter. He is the best defensive, the fastest, and the most versatile fighter in the sport. If you think that Zoo will just walk threw him then your crazy. He hurt fast fighters like Mitchell and Judah but they were lefties with no chin and no D. He has more problems with right handers

I think PBF can get a decision by boxing all night ( i mean run if you have to) and avoid the right cross. but im not betting on it :cool: .

I think PBF can get a decision by boxing all night ( i mean run if you have to) and avoid the right cross. but im not betting on it :cool: .
Zoo's right cross is dangerous against lefties. Floyd is right handed and a defensive wizard. He will see Zoo's slow right coming all night. Zoo will never hit Floyd with it and if he does it will never land clean. Floyd will roll it and take all the sting off the punch. You all think Floyd will be doing alot of moving but I dont. I think Zoo is very slow and Floyd can beat him to the punch and make him miss. He wont run like you think. It will look like the Judah first round for the whole fight

I've heard it said before by many people that they think Mayweather might be able to outpoint Tsyzu. Mayweather is a highly skilled defensive boxer no doubt. But can he last if Tszyu lands a shot on him? We all know how hard Tszyu hits. I'm unbiased about this, :D so give your opinions.
lets see what happen if this fight will be happened... :D

Zoo's right cross is dangerous against lefties. Floyd is right handed and a defensive wizard. He will see Zoo's slow right coming all night. Zoo will never hit Floyd with it and if he does it will never land clean. Floyd will roll it and take all the sting off the punch. You all think Floyd will be doing alot of moving but I dont. I think Zoo is very slow and Floyd can beat him to the punch and make him miss. He wont run like you think. It will look like the Judah first round for the whole fight

You have a great point. but dont you think it is much more dangerous for PBF if he tries to beat him to the punch. Surely some Left hook or Right cross wont land clean. But KT is like a rabid animal there's a big chance that he can land a big one on those 12 rounds.

If PBF will win i was thinking it would be like A SRL victory over Hagler ( If you gave that fight to Leonard ;) )

Mayweather is a great boxer but he is not going to beat Tszyu. People credit floyd with majestic boxing skills and seem to think he can beat any1 by simply boxing them and being his defensive self. But people forget that weight is a big issue. To think that Mayweather is just going to stroll up to 140 and beat the king is unlikely.

Tszyu himself is an excellent boxer. Back in the amatuer days, he had a record of something like 260-15. And he schooled Forrest in the world champs. Against Mayweather, all Kosta has to do is keep constant pressure and without being countered much and sooner or later he will catch up and either KO floyd or dominate the later rounds on route to a UD. I say UD, because although many feel Tszyu is a monstrous power, i feel that is not exactly true. He is a big puncher, but he knocks his opponents out because his right cross is quick and accurate. I feel people underrate Tszyu's speed hardcore. He is not a big combination puncher like the slick black boxers we see, but his one punch speed is vastly underrated, just ask Sharmba.

Zoo didnt KO Urkal, Tackie, or Leija. Floyd would box circles around him and make him look like Frankenstien


He did TKO Leija, burst his eardrum and made him quit. Zoo boxed cricles around Takie just to prove he could IMO. Against Urkal he boxed and mixed power with speed and won decisively...something that is hard to do against Urkal, exspecially back then.

Your doing what most of opponents of Zoo never seem to learn. Your assuming that he is slow and can't mix it up with someone who moves well. And your assuming that he can't box....wrong, he has excellent boxing skills that are often overlooked because of his power. These assumptions been proven wrong time and time again.

This is a 50/50 fight in my eyes. Mayweather bar none has the absolute best skills in boxing right now. But he lacks power. There isn't much for his opponents to worry about offencively. I think this is the opening for Zoo's chances to win. Mayweather easily beats most others, but against Zoo he has to contend that he is in with a patient puncher who can box and will not be afraid to throw.

Either way, this will be a great fight if it happens.

The result could be both ways, If KT catches FM with a solid punch that can slow him down then KT STOPS FM. But if he doesn't FM can dance the whole night and get a decision.

The result could be both ways, If KT catches FM with a solid punch that can slow him down then KT STOPS FM. But if he doesn't FM can dance the whole night and get a decision.

agree.
Some luck will be involved in this fight.

Mayweather is a great boxer but he is not going to beat Tszyu. People credit floyd with majestic boxing skills and seem to think he can beat any1 by simply boxing them and being his defensive self. But people forget that weight is a big issue. To think that Mayweather is just going to stroll up to 140 and beat the king is unlikely.

Tszyu himself is an excellent boxer. Back in the amatuer days, he had a record of something like 260-15. And he schooled Forrest in the world champs. Against Mayweather, all Kosta has to do is keep constant pressure and without being countered much and sooner or later he will catch up and either KO floyd or dominate the later rounds on route to a UD. I say UD, because although many feel Tszyu is a monstrous power, i feel that is not exactly true. He is a big puncher, but he knocks his opponents out because his right cross is quick and accurate. I feel people underrate Tszyu's speed hardcore. He is not a big combination puncher like the slick black boxers we see, but his one punch speed is vastly underrated, just ask Sharmba.

Amen to that!
KT has excellent skills plus excellent reflexes/eyes
against Mitchell raw power and timing were enough, but if he had to mix it up he would overwhelm the pretty boy by his size and punch efficiency.

Mayweather's chin hasnt been up to a good test,Castillo hits hard but he is no K.T., K.T. will be a good test for him,if Mayweather can take his punches then I can see a UD win over K.T. but since Kostya has great power, the whole fight will keep me on the edge of my seat

I say let mayweather fight S.Mitchell first then K.T. if he wins

Mayweather's chin hasnt been up to a good test,Castillo hits hard but he is no K.T., K.T. will be a good test for him,if Mayweather can take his punches then I can see a UD win over K.T. but since Kostya has great power, the whole fight will keep me on the edge of my seat

I say let mayweather fight S.Mitchell first then K.T. if he wins
I agree with that..

I said this in my last post


"You stated that Mayweather is too small for 147 and Kostya isnt when PBF is 5'8" with a 72" reach, while K.T. is 5'7" with a 67" reach, PBF has 32w 21ko's 0 lost and 0 draws
and
K.T. has 31W 25ko's 1 lost 0 draws

Basically PBF will be the bigger man and has great skills, he has shown it over and over again in the ring,look what he did to Corrales. I know Corrales is no K.T. but hell he was at the top pf his game.
"

As a puncher....I firmly believe Kostya Tszyu IS NOT as big a puncher as the 130lb Diego Corrales who fought Mayweather.

But....Tszyu is BETTER than Corrales. He's bigger also, & up at these higher weights, Mayweather has become more hittable.

Mayweather would have to be as "on" for Tszyu as he was for Corrales.
I don't know if that's possible for Floyd at this point.

As a puncher....I firmly believe Kostya Tszyu IS NOT as big a puncher as the 130lb Diego Corrales who fought Mayweather.

But....Tszyu is BETTER than Corrales. He's bigger also, & up at these higher weights, Mayweather has become more hittable.

Mayweather would have to be as "on" for Tszyu as he was for Corrales.
I don't know if that's possible for Floyd at this point.
how about PBF vs Corrales 2? Do you still think it will have the same outcome?

how about PBF vs Corrales 2? Do you still think it will have the same outcome?


That's a good question.

I don't know if Floyd has it in him to give that type of performance again. I also think he could be quite overconfident, which would be dangerous against a one-punch killer like Chico.

How would Corrales approach a rematch ? Is it possible he'd be unable to get past the way he was OWNED in the first fight ? Is he still owned by Floyd ?

That's a good question.

I don't know if Floyd has it in him to give that type of performance again. I also think he could be quite overconfident, which would be dangerous against a one-punch killer like Chico.

How would Corrales approach a rematch ? Is it possible he'd be unable to get past the way he was OWNED in the first fight ? Is he still owned by Floyd ?
Are you crazy, that fight will be 10x more dominant this time. I get the impression that alot of you think Floyd is not as good as he was, but he is actually better then he's ever been because in his last 2 fights he is more offensive. Chico got ouboxed by Frietas the whole fight until the end. What do you think Floyd will do to him. It would be a early KO. He is way to slow now and Floyd is much more offensive. This is by far the easiest fight for Floyd

Mayweather's chin hasnt been up to a good test,Castillo hits hard but he is no K.T., K.T. will be a good test for him,if Mayweather can take his punches then I can see a UD win over K.T. but since Kostya has great power, the whole fight will keep me on the edge of my seat

I say let mayweather fight S.Mitchell first then K.T. if he wins
Why would Floyd have to fight Mitchell first. Who the hell is he. Floyd has already proven himself and is a #for# fighter. People give Zoo to much credit for beating him. Who has Mitchell ever beat and he was KO by Stevie Johnston. After he lost to Zoo he beat bums and everyone tried to make it seem like he was the best besides Zoo. Look at who he beat after Zoo: Tackie after Zoo beat him, old Vince Phillips, Vilches, N'Dou who was a journeyman and many thought won, and a couple of other bums. He was a fraud and Zoo gets to much credit for that win

I've heard it said before by many people that they think Mayweather might be able to outpoint Tsyzu. Mayweather is a highly skilled defensive boxer no doubt. But can he last if Tszyu lands a shot on him? We all know how hard Tszyu hits. I'm unbiased about this, :D so give your opinions.The one thing I like about floyd is his ability to step up and combine good defense and offense and use his opponents strenghts against him. I think he understimated corley and fought a dumb fight against him, but he has beat some of the better fighters out there even on his bad nights. Tszyu/Mayweather would be a great fight, but I have mayweather coming out on top in this one. I woulnd't mind seeing mayweather and cotto. I would pay money to see that one...I think cotto would knock floyd the f*ck out...

Are you crazy, that fight will be 10x more dominant this time. I get the impression that alot of you think Floyd is not as good as he was, but he is actually better then he's ever been because in his last 2 fights he is more offensive. Chico got ouboxed by Frietas the whole fight until the end. What do you think Floyd will do to him. It would be a early KO. He is way to slow now and Floyd is much more offensive. This is by far the easiest fight for Floyd

I don't think my post warranted that kind of response.

Did you see the part about Floyd "owning" Corrales ?

I would make Floyd a huge favorite over Corrales. So, relax a little bit.

what i realized about chico is that since he moved up, he can take better punches.

chico should move up i think, because he's like 6'1, so he could go all the way to the heaveyweight division if he wants. he should at least go to welterweight.

heres one for you, Mayorga vs Chico at 147. Chico's first fight at 147, and Mayorga's comeback fight at 147??

I gotta take Mayorga on that one

Allthough it is nice to see Floyd more offensive in recent fights that may not be a good thing for Floyd. He was hit with some big shots against Corley, shots that he can't afford to get hit with by Zoo. I understand he will fight that fight differently but he needs to remember why he is as good as he is and it is not because of his offense.

Floyd will kill Diego...I maybe the biggest Diego hater on this board, I think he is way overblown...his power is definately legit but against a mover (Frietas doesn't count)he looks out of his element. If Diego fought Casamayor 10 times he would lose 8 of them...in the second fight he did not look like a puncher at all-he hung on by the hairs of his chinny chin chin to win that one-it could have gone either way.

Diego will be punished against JL.

You act like Floyd has a glass jaw. So what if he hits Floyd. He hasnt KO everyone. He didnt KO Tackie, Leija, or Urkal, and Harris KO Urkal. Floyd has never been down. He can take a punch and he will be scoring alot. People always make it sound like the whole fight will be Floyd running until he gets hit and then its over. The guy is a undefeated #for# fighter. He is the best defensive, the fastest, and the most versatile fighter in the sport. If you think that Zoo will just walk threw him then your crazy. He hurt fast fighters like Mitchell and Judah but they were lefties with no chin and no D. He has more problems with right handers

i believe you mean vitali has never been down... floyds mit touched the canvas vs hernandez which is ruled as knockdown in this sport

i believe you mean vitali has never been down... floyds mit touched the canvas vs hernandez which is ruled as knockdown in this sport
He never got hit. He touched the canvas because he hurt his hand

Allthough it is nice to see Floyd more offensive in recent fights that may not be a good thing for Floyd. He was hit with some big shots against Corley, shots that he can't afford to get hit with by Zoo. I understand he will fight that fight differently but he needs to remember why he is as good as he is and it is not because of his offense.

Floyd will kill Diego...I maybe the biggest Diego hater on this board, I think he is way overblown...his power is definately legit but against a mover (Frietas doesn't count)he looks out of his element. If Diego fought Casamayor 10 times he would lose 8 of them...in the second fight he did not look like a puncher at all-he hung on by the hairs of his chinny chin chin to win that one-it could have gone either way.

Diego will be punished against JL.
I disagree when people say that his D will suffer from being more offensive. The Corley fight isnt a good indicator. Chop is a left hand crouch fighter. You heard Merchant say that Floyd struggels with lefties. I dont think Spinks will give him that much problem because he's more straight up when he's fighting and Mitchell leans back. Chop was crouched over. The only time he shook Floyd was once when Floyd was swinging at the same time and he beat Floyd to the punch. Thats why Floyd was shook. Most fighters would be hurt in that situation. The other time Chop hit him was when he had a perfect Defense. He was in his defensive stance and had his glove on the side of his face but Chop still hit him square in the mouth. Why? Because he was a leftie. They shock you because either you dont see the punch or you see it and have a perfect D and they still hit you in the mouth. When Jones got KO by Tarver he had a perfect D but because Tarver was a leftie he still hit him on the chin and it shocked him. Barrera stepped back perfectly against Pac like he always does and Pac still hit him on the chin because he is a leftie, and because you dont see it or you see it and still cant stop it, it makes the punch hurt even more. Even if Floyd is more offensive he still wont get hit with big punches against a right hander, like he didnt against N'Dou

That's a good question.

I don't know if Floyd has it in him to give that type of performance again. I also think he could be quite overconfident, which would be dangerous against a one-punch killer like Chico.

How would Corrales approach a rematch ? Is it possible he'd be unable to get past the way he was OWNED in the first fight ? Is he still owned by Floyd ?
I think PBF ownes Chico, there has to be a rematch soon, I still think PBF will win but I just want for chico to land a big shot that will KD PBF

Why would Floyd have to fight Mitchell first. Who the hell is he. Floyd has already proven himself and is a #for# fighter. People give Zoo to much credit for beating him. Who has Mitchell ever beat and he was KO by Stevie Johnston. After he lost to Zoo he beat bums and everyone tried to make it seem like he was the best besides Zoo. Look at who he beat after Zoo: Tackie after Zoo beat him, old Vince Phillips, Vilches, N'Dou who was a journeyman and many thought won, and a couple of other bums. He was a fraud and Zoo gets to much credit for that win
the only reason I say that PBF should fight Mitchell first is to see if he has what it takes to beat K.T. Sharmba is no push over and if mayweather can do what Kostya did to S. Mitchell it might help build up his confidence. Who knows maybe PBF is nerves or scared to fight K.T., who really knows? But if he sees himself doing the same thing that K.T. did to Mitchell then expect that PBF will fight K.T. soon, hell K.T. still has 3 other fights, DLH, PBF, Hatton and someone else I think Chico :confused:

the only reason I say that PBF should fight Mitchell first is to see if he has what it takes to beat K.T. Sharmba is no push over and if mayweather can do what Kostya did to S. Mitchell it might help build up his confidence. Who knows maybe PBF is nerves or scared to fight K.T., who really knows? But if he sees himself doing the same thing that K.T. did to Mitchell then expect that PBF will fight K.T. soon, hell K.T. still has 3 other fights, DLH, PBF, Hatton and someone else I think Chico :confused:
What makes you think Floyd is scared of Zoo. Thats plain stupid. He wanted to jump straight from 135 to 154 to fight Oscar but you think he's scared of Zoo. Oscar said that he wouldnt fight him because of his father. Why would Floyd be scared of Zoo. He respects him but he definatly isnt afraid of him. Gatti is the big money PPV fight and he aint fighting anyone until he gets that fight

Why would Floyd have to fight Mitchell first. Who the hell is he. Floyd has already proven himself and is a #for# fighter. People give Zoo to much credit for beating him. Who has Mitchell ever beat and he was KO by Stevie Johnston. After he lost to Zoo he beat bums and everyone tried to make it seem like he was the best besides Zoo. Look at who he beat after Zoo: Tackie after Zoo beat him, old Vince Phillips, Vilches, N'Dou who was a journeyman and many thought won, and a couple of other bums. He was a fraud and Zoo gets to much credit for that win

Floyd hasn't done **** all at 140. I don't care that he has beaten everyone at lightweight...that doesn't mean anything. At 140, he's beaten corley...yay...good for him. He was even hurt in that fight (although he did regain his composure excellently). However, if Tszyu catches him with that straight right, which he will eventually, then it won't matter how strong Floyd's chin is...he will go down.

Based on their last fights, then KT destroys Floyd (who happens to be one of my favourite fighters). I'd like to see Floyd step up the competition first before challenging Tszyu.

I'm guessin Floyd will keep winning rounds on points with his quickness until KT catches him with a few good shots and puts him down for the TKO.

My prediction about this fight is that Mayweather will win via decision if he can avoid Tszyu's right hand. But if he cant do that, it will be a short night.

Thank god...I've seen less of the, "Mayweather will be on his bicycle all night until Tszyu catches his with the right hand and sends him to the morgue" talk.

Mayweather pulls out a narrow UD in this fight, possibly having to pull himself off the canvas to do it. Tszyu and Mayweather would both have to use their whole bag of tricks in order to make progress on the other fighter. Mayweather would need to bank the early rounds, I don't see Mayweather being hit by multiple bombs...if he does then Tszyu will get a nice KO victory. I think Mayweather can eat 1-2 of those big right hands though.

Floyd hasn't done **** all at 140. I don't care that he has beaten everyone at lightweight...that doesn't mean anything. At 140, he's beaten corley...yay...good for him. He was even hurt in that fight (although he did regain his composure excellently). However, if Tszyu catches him with that straight right, which he will eventually, then it won't matter how strong Floyd's chin is...he will go down.

Based on their last fights, then KT destroys Floyd (who happens to be one of my favourite fighters). I'd like to see Floyd step up the competition first before challenging Tszyu.
Floyd has only had one fight at 140. He's a undefeated #for# guy. Why the **** does he have to prove himself when he has accomplished more then everyone their. If you think Floyd's chin is weak then your crazy. What about Zoo getting KTFO. Your stupid for saying if you go by their last fight. Every fight is different and Floyd won every round against Chop and dropped him twice anyway. Chico killed Gainer and Floyd struggeled with Augustus and everyone said did you see what happened in their last fights. Chico will kill him. Well, we all know what happened in that one. Zoo doesnt do as well against right handers as he does against lefties and he's hit alot of fighters and they didnt go down so what makes everyone think that as soon as Zoo hits Floyd that he will just crumble like a baby. Give the man his respect. He's a unbeaten #for# champ and aint no one just going to walk through him

Zoo would knock Mayweather out!

Mayweather would box circles around Tsyzu in my opinion because he to quick and agile for Tsyzu.

Mayweather can win if he stays off the ropes.People forget that Tszyu is very good body puncher.I say PBF can avoid the right without too much trouble.I think Tszyu is smart enough to know he has to go to the body against PBF.If Floyd can avoid the ropes he has a decent shot.

zoo's power is unbelievable