View Full Version : Did Ingemar Johansson have one of the hardest punches ever


drew75
12-21-2004, 01:15 PM
Henry cooper said he didn't even feel it he just woke up about 30 seconds later. How does Ingos Bingo compare to any of the other hard punchers.

dempseyfire
12-21-2004, 05:28 PM
His right hand was really all he had, but power-wise I believe it's up there with history's best HW punches . . .

drew75
12-21-2004, 06:10 PM
I think in his prime it measured 500 kg and Ali's was about 350 kg at his prime.

jabsRstiff
12-22-2004, 08:01 AM
Johannson's right hand is one of the bigger punches in heavyweight history.
He had no left hand to speak of, however.

The biggest hitters in heavy history had two-fisted power (Louis,Marciano,Shavers,Dempsey,Foreman,Liston,Tys on)

Ivansmamma
12-22-2004, 06:27 PM
Ingos bingo was great, if it wasen't for the London fight he would have been ranked higher. Sorry that he's got ahlzimers today. He seems to be a great guy. Sorry if this is off topic.

Asian Sensation
12-22-2004, 06:53 PM
Ask Floyd Patterson, who was yo-yoed in the first fight. His straight right hand was an amazing punch. Didn't have anything else, I mean anything.

Ivansmamma
12-22-2004, 08:19 PM
He had pretty good defense.

Asian Sensation
12-22-2004, 08:22 PM
He had pretty good defense.
But his chin was shaky, and I heard upon Liston's entrance into the ring for the third Patterson fight, so were his knees.

Ivansmamma
12-22-2004, 08:36 PM
But his chin was shaky, and I heard upon Liston's entrance into the ring for the third Patterson fight, so were his knees.

I agree but i still have to say he was great because
if from Sweden and Ingemar is probably the only HW champ we'll ever have.

jabsRstiff
12-23-2004, 08:04 AM
I agree but i still have to say he was great because
if from Sweden and Ingemar is probably the only HW champ we'll ever have.

Oh, that's all it takes to make a fighter great....to actually BE FROM SOMEWHERE ?

phallusy
12-24-2004, 12:13 AM
But his chin was shaky, and I heard upon Liston's entrance into the ring for the third Patterson fight, so were his knees.


shaky??? Floyd Patterson had the worst chin in history, it was pure crystal, i think he was knocked out the most times of any hw champ in history

Ivansmamma
12-24-2004, 06:10 PM
Oh, that's all it takes to make a fighter great....to actually BE FROM SOMEWHERE ?

No to actually be from Sweden :rolleyes:

Ivansmamma
12-24-2004, 06:11 PM
shaky??? he had the worst chin in history, it was pure crystal, i think he was knocked out the most times of any hw champ in history

Except Patterson.

Kid Achilles
12-24-2004, 10:11 PM
Great right hand power. If Ingo hit you with anything resembling a right hand punch, he hurt you. Still the rest of him was pretty ordinary. I think you'd have to rank even Willard, Braddock, and the other lesser champions above him. As limited as they were (compared to guys like Ali, Louis, and Marciano) they at least possessed a handful of championship qualities whereas Ingo only had that punch. If you were to take it away from him, he would have been a decent journeyman at best.

MGG
12-25-2004, 03:20 PM
No, Ingemar just happened to meet one of the weakest heavyweight .

phallusy
12-26-2004, 08:34 PM
Patterson was a pussy, Ali KNOCKED HIM OUT WITH A JAB!

jabsRstiff
12-27-2004, 03:42 PM
Patterson was a pussy, Ali KNOCKED HIM OUT WITH A JAB!


That's not remotely true.

Patterson took hundreds of punches from Ali in fight #1. A fight in which Floyd was being effected by terrible back spasms.

In fight # 2....Floyd was stopped on a cut....& from taking a beating.

dempseyfire
12-27-2004, 03:48 PM
Patterson is extreamly under-rated. He didn't have a good set of whiskers but you don't go all those rounds with Quarry and Bonavena and have a glass chin. He got knocked down (not out) the most times out of all of the HW champs but the majority of those were in the first Johansson fight and with a modern referee that fight would've been stopped after the 2nd or 3rd knockdown . . .

Asian Sensation
12-27-2004, 04:55 PM
Patterson is extreamly under-rated. He didn't have a good set of whiskers but you don't go all those rounds with Quarry and Bonavena and have a glass chin. He got knocked down (not out) the most times out of all of the HW champs but the majority of those were in the first Johansson fight and with a modern referee that fight would've been stopped after the 2nd or 3rd knockdown . . .
No, the man was protected by Cus D'Amato from any serious opposition at heavyweight. Cus knew something long before Ingemar did. That explains Patterson's little disguise after the Liston fight.

lmnorw
02-25-2005, 04:46 PM
ingo only had 2 loses both 2 patterson a hall of famer so the man was pretty good as for his power he had patterson down 7 times in one round and ali couldnt knock him down at all in 2 fights i believe but yet he knocked down foreman so ingo could punch

M26
02-26-2005, 09:12 AM
He had one helluva right hand, thatīs true. Still, if he had the punching power of Foreman, Marciano, Tyson, Liston or Shavers, he wouldnīt have to knock Patterson down 7 times...

(When it comes to the fight between Ali and Foreman which you refer to, I have to point out that Foreman only went down from Alis combination because of exhaustion. It was not about power. I canīt see Ingo dropping Foreman)

The Phantom Menace
02-26-2005, 11:32 AM
His right hand was one of the heaviest. He was not remembered for being one of the heaviest punchers in history however.

lmnorw
02-26-2005, 01:42 PM
true i doubt ingo could even get out of the first round with foreman.but just because patterson kept getting up doesnt mean he wasnt a big time puncher for his weight..i believe the only person who knocked patterson down and made him stay down was liston and liston was a natural heavyweight and i think patterson started his career as a middleweight