just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed

He's an all time great at 140.

I think as a fighter he is a great at 140 but he probably won't get as much recognition as he should because he's had no real huge fights in comparison to someone like DLH.

Kostya is definitely an all time great.

Tzsyu could match wits with anybody who ever fought at 140, not saying he would win all of them but he is in that class, therefore he has to be an alltime great

Man, I would love to see DLH vs. KT. Damn, that would be a good fight

You gonna admit though, this guy made a name for himself as a non-American fighter.

Tszyu's an all time great, without doubt.

gentleman tszu is a true champion. i just hope he dont go up to 147 for too long its going to get crowded up there with the best.i think he could beat mayweather. but delahoya or mosley,watch out.

hell yeah boxerslike MAB/KT/DLH/Hokpkins/Morales/tito will surly be remembered no matter if they lost before or have not stayed on top forever or moved up in weight..the ability-heart-and pride puts them there and there accomplishments

boxers like:mayorga-manny paquiao-winky-spinks-tarver-etc.....these are good but not manny will remember them in 20years like the above names

at 140. But overall i dont think he stacks up too high.

just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed
whos dat in the avtar?

just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed

He is obviously an all time great.

just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed


Yes Tszyu is an all time great. He fought in the deepest era in the history of the weight division and dominated. He's aloe one of the greatest amature fighters ever.

Tszyu beat:
Jake Rodriguez
Rafael Ruelas
Diosbelys Hurtado
Miguel Ángel González
Ahmed Santos
Oktay Urkal
Ben Tackie
James Leija
Sharmba Mitchell 2x

all quality fighters and all legit top ten guys at 140 when those fights took place.

and he's not done yet.

I put Tszyu #3 all time at 140 behind Pryor and Chavez

tszyu has a chance against anybody who has ever fought at 140...i think leonard would outpoint him though

Yes, he's on my short list at 140.

And my list is very, very short.

As for the solitary KO, if having been KOd eliminates a nominee from being enshrined in Canastota, the Hall of Fame would have been vacant except for one resident: Rocky Marciano. As far as I can recall, among the great ones, it's only Rocky who was never stopped. He didn't even lose. ;)

Larry Holmes came close: he didn't lose in 49 straight fights and was on the way to besting Marciano's record when Michael Spinks beat him on decision. Holmes retired with the record of having lost only once in 50 fights and never having ever been stopped.

Then, he came back... faced Mike Tyson... :(

What make Tsyzu so great, is his heart and determination.
After that Horror loss to Phillips, Zoo should of been out of the boxing elite. Most boxer dont recover from a bad loss.

But Tsyzu showed heart to fight his way back and KTFO out of two fighter in spectacular fashion. Going into the fight, he was an under dog and most Americans wrote him off.

just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed

what is this??? if youve been KOd your no longer an all time great??? dumbest post ive read in a while... lets take foreman, frazier, ali, tyson, holyfield, lewis, and joe lewis off the heavyweight list then (i guess that leaves only vitalu klitschko)

what is this??? if youve been KOd your no longer an all time great??? dumbest post ive read in a while... lets take foreman, frazier, ali, tyson, holyfield, lewis, and joe lewis off the heavyweight list then (i guess that leaves only vitalu klitschko)
:D :D :D

I think the final yes or no on "Kostya Tsyzu..all time great???", depends on how he ends his carreer.

Every loss now will damage his legacy.

I think as a fighter he is a great at 140 but he probably won't get as much recognition as he should because he's had no real huge fights in comparison to someone like DLH.

You can't say that, Tszyu won 13 or 14 championship fights. DLH just fights big name fighters and loses horrible and seldomly wins. I think if you are talking about champions, Tszyu is a great champion, if you are talking about great money makers, that's DLH, who lost 3/4 last fights. And got badly beaten up by The Sturm from europe.

Oscar is a great fighter and would go down in the hall of fame.I give him credit for stepping up to the challenge and fighting big names. But how many really big names did he beat.
He lost to Mosley twice, tito, Hopkins and should of lost to sturm.
He would lose to all of them again, if he eva got a rematch.

Tszyu has been the top dog in his weight class for around 5 yrs, 10 yrs if you exclude the Vince Phillips loss. That is around 5-10% of boxing history right there, so of course he is an all-time great. So if Oscar for transcending the sport and keeping it alive. Btw, all-time greats do get knocked out. It is how they deal with it that makes them greats.

You can't say that, Tszyu won 13 or 14 championship fights. DLH just fights big name fighters and loses horrible and seldomly wins. I think if you are talking about champions, Tszyu is a great champion, if you are talking about great money makers, that's DLH, who lost 3/4 last fights. And got badly beaten up by The Sturm from europe.

I can say that and I stand by my statement. KT has fought the best guys in his division but no real superstars as such, except for a couple who were past their primes. DLH has had several mega-fights at various weights and has only lost badly to Hopkins. He's also won a fair few of them.

There was nothing derogatory in my post towards KT, just a statement of fact that he will never be as highly regarded as he should be. It's not due to any failings on his part, just circumstance that there wasn't better opposition to put infront of him. He should have moved up through the weights to get some mega-fights if he wanted to be classed as an all time great fighter and not just a great at 140. DLH could have been even more impressive than KT had he just stayed at 147 and not moved up.

Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.

If Kostya clocks DLH at 147, his all time status would be absolutely beyond question..

Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.
I would love to see your 100!

Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.


Could you please provide a list of your top 100 P4P. Thank you.

Tszyu and DLH dont crack the top 100 P4P all time.


Yes lets please see your list...otherwise, I'd have to believe that you are just repeating something you've heard somewhere else or you're just insane.

Yes lets please see your list...otherwise, I'd have to believe that you are just repeating something you've heard somewhere else or you're just insane.

Lol you can't compare boxers at different weights, KT def. up there with top 5 140 pders.

See the problem with Tszu is that he has lacked the big fights. he has beaten some very good fighters but not the likes of a mayweather or a De la Hoya etc..
He did KO Zab Judah and this is probably his best win but apart from that he hasn`t got the name reconition on his record. He is one of the best Jnr Welters of all time, maybe top three material but he needs a fight with a big name future legend. JC Chavez don`t count because he was shot to bits, but I think a De La Hoya fight or Mosley if Mosley can get his act together and won so meaningful fights would make sense. Of course the best fight out there at Jnr Welter is one against Mayweather Jnr but i don`t think HBO and showtime will work that one out, too much money and too much risk on both sides.

For me Kostya is a great fighter, but is not an "all-time great" at this present time. But a few big fight wins will elevate him to 'all-time great status.

See the problem with Tszu is that he has lacked the big fights. he has beaten some very good fighters but not the likes of a mayweather or a De la Hoya etc..
He did KO Zab Judah and this is probably his best win but apart from that he hasn`t got the name reconition on his record. He is one of the best Jnr Welters of all time, maybe top three material but he needs a fight with a big name future legend. JC Chavez don`t count because he was shot to bits, but I think a De La Hoya fight or Mosley if Mosley can get his act together and won so meaningful fights would make sense. Of course the best fight out there at Jnr Welter is one against Mayweather Jnr but i don`t think HBO and showtime will work that one out, too much money and too much risk on both sides.
I love Kostya Tzyu and everything, but he is simply one of the best fighters of his generation, not all time. He cannot be compared to fighters like ROberto Duran, who fought at basically every division up to middleweight and won titles. Greats like Duran also fought way superior opponents than the ones KT has on his resume.

What do I get out of posting Top 100 P4P all time? Flaming?

Tszyu is already an all-time great at 140. I'd rate him 3rd behind Pryor & Chavez too. He hasn't finished yet either. If he sticks around, beats everyone at 140 and moves up to 147 and beats dlh and mosely, I would put him in my top 10 pound4pound all-time.

Won't happen cos of network bull**** though but I can always dream!!

What do I get out of posting Top 100 P4P all time? Flaming?
He was just calling you on your smartass post about how you wouldn't put KT in your top 100 you flaming idiot. You probably can't even list 100 welterweights and your talking trash. Get the point?

He was just calling you on your smartass post about how you wouldn't put KT in your top 100 you flaming idiot. You probably can't even list 100 welterweights and your talking trash. Get the point?

LOL @ idoit! How am I talking trash? Lucky me I have this list sitting on my computer.LOL

All of these fighters are better then Tszyu and DLH P4P. Flame away!!!

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Roberto Duran
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Ezzard Charles
6 Joe Louis
7 Eder Jofre
8 Carlos Monzon
9 Harry Greb
10 Ray Leonard
11 Willie Pep
12 Sam Langford
13 Archie Moore
14 Marvin Hagler
15 Benny Leonard
16 Alexis Arguello
17 Gene Tunney
18 Pernell Whitaker
19 Julio Cesar Chavez
20 Salvador Sanchez
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Emile Griffith
23 Roy Jones Jr
24 Jose Napoles
25 Jimmy Wilde
26 Jack Johnson
27 Thomas Hearns
28 Michael Spinks
29 Bob Foster
30 Fighting Harada
31 Mickey Walker
32 Aaron Pryor
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Ike Williams
35 Tony Canzoneri
36 Kid Gavilan
37 Larry Holmes
38 Bob Fitzsimmons
39 Wilfredo Gomez
40 Carlos Zarate
41 Evander Holyfield
42 Miguel Canto
43 Jack Dempsey
44 Billy Conn
45 Luis Rodriguez
46 Wilfred Benitez
47 Ruben Olivares
48 Marcel Cerdan
49 Charley Burley
50 George Foreman
51 Stanley Ketchel
52 Gene Fullmer
53 Joe Frazier
54 Pascual Perez
55 Ricardo Lopez
56 Tiger Flowers
57 Joe Gans
58 Kid Choclate
59 Azumah Nelson
60 Jimmy McClarnin
61 Antonio Cervantes
62 Sonny Liston
63 Terry McGovern
64 Eusebio Pedroza
65 Mike McCallum
66 Dick Tiger
67 Tony Zale
68 Beau Jack
69 Joe Walcott
70 Carlos Ortiz
71 George Dixon
72 Jung-Koo Chang
73 Jeff Fenech
74 Tommy Loughran
75 Manuel Ortiz
76 Jake LaMotta
77 Nino Benvenuti
78 Vicente Salvidar
79 Panama Al Brown
80 Floyd Patterson
81 Abe Attell
82 Jeff Chandler
83 Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
84 Georges Carpentier
85 Khaosai Galaxy
86 Pancho Villa
87 Estaban DeJesus
88 Harold Johnson
89 Maxie Rosembloom
90 Lennox Lewis
91 Les Darcy
92 Frankie Genaro
93 Mike Tyson
94 Nicolino Locche
95 Benny Lynch
96 Jack Britton
97 Mark Johnson
98 Ken Buchanan
99 Jersey Joe Walcott
100 Felix Trinidad ;)

OWNED!!!!1111

LOL @ idoit! How am I talking trash? Lucky me I have this list sitting on my computer.LOL

All of these fighters are better then Tszyu and DLH P4P. Flame away!!!


That guy asked for 100 welterweights.

LOL @ idoit! How am I talking trash? Lucky me I have this list sitting on my computer.LOL

All of these fighters are better then Tszyu and DLH P4P. Flame away!!!

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Roberto Duran
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Ezzard Charles
6 Joe Louis
7 Eder Jofre
8 Carlos Monzon
9 Harry Greb
10 Ray Leonard
11 Willie Pep
12 Sam Langford
13 Archie Moore
14 Marvin Hagler
15 Benny Leonard
16 Alexis Arguello
17 Gene Tunney
18 Pernell Whitaker
19 Julio Cesar Chavez
20 Salvador Sanchez
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Emile Griffith
23 Roy Jones Jr
24 Jose Napoles
25 Jimmy Wilde
26 Jack Johnson
27 Thomas Hearns
28 Michael Spinks
29 Bob Foster
30 Fighting Harada
31 Mickey Walker
32 Aaron Pryor
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Ike Williams
35 Tony Canzoneri
36 Kid Gavilan
37 Larry Holmes
38 Bob Fitzsimmons
39 Wilfredo Gomez
40 Carlos Zarate
41 Evander Holyfield
42 Miguel Canto
43 Jack Dempsey
44 Billy Conn
45 Luis Rodriguez
46 Wilfred Benitez
47 Ruben Olivares
48 Marcel Cerdan
49 Charley Burley
50 George Foreman
51 Stanley Ketchel
52 Gene Fullmer
53 Joe Frazier
54 Pascual Perez
55 Ricardo Lopez
56 Tiger Flowers
57 Joe Gans
58 Kid Choclate
59 Azumah Nelson
60 Jimmy McClarnin
61 Antonio Cervantes
62 Sonny Liston
63 Terry McGovern
64 Eusebio Pedroza
65 Mike McCallum
66 Dick Tiger
67 Tony Zale
68 Beau Jack
69 Joe Walcott
70 Carlos Ortiz
71 George Dixon
72 Jung-Koo Chang
73 Jeff Fenech
74 Tommy Loughran
75 Manuel Ortiz
76 Jake LaMotta
77 Nino Benvenuti
78 Vicente Salvidar
79 Panama Al Brown
80 Floyd Patterson
81 Abe Attell
82 Jeff Chandler
83 Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
84 Georges Carpentier
85 Khaosai Galaxy
86 Pancho Villa
87 Estaban DeJesus
88 Harold Johnson
89 Maxie Rosembloom
90 Lennox Lewis
91 Les Darcy
92 Frankie Genaro
93 Mike Tyson
94 Nicolino Locche
95 Benny Lynch
96 Jack Britton
97 Mark Johnson
98 Ken Buchanan
99 Jersey Joe Walcott
100 Felix Trinidad ;)













I think Tzyu's name should be substantially higher than RJJ's in this list. It should be near Chavez.



You are biased and opinionated, just like the dude in your avatar.

I think Tzyu's name should be substantially higher than RJJ's in this list. It should be near Chavez

Can you explain why? :eek:

Just because Roy Jones has recently sucumbed to old age doesn`t mean he is less of a fighter. He achieved quite a bit in his career and dominated teh lightheavy weight division for almost 7 yrs. This guy is an all time great, he should be ranked higher than Tsyzu.

LOL @ idoit! How am I talking trash? Lucky me I have this list sitting on my computer.LOL

All of these fighters are better then Tszyu and DLH P4P. Flame away!!!

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Roberto Duran
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Ezzard Charles
6 Joe Louis
7 Eder Jofre
8 Carlos Monzon
9 Harry Greb
10 Ray Leonard
11 Willie Pep
12 Sam Langford
13 Archie Moore
14 Marvin Hagler
15 Benny Leonard
16 Alexis Arguello
17 Gene Tunney
18 Pernell Whitaker
19 Julio Cesar Chavez
20 Salvador Sanchez
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Emile Griffith
23 Roy Jones Jr
24 Jose Napoles
25 Jimmy Wilde
26 Jack Johnson
27 Thomas Hearns
28 Michael Spinks
29 Bob Foster
30 Fighting Harada
31 Mickey Walker
32 Aaron Pryor
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Ike Williams
35 Tony Canzoneri
36 Kid Gavilan
37 Larry Holmes
38 Bob Fitzsimmons
39 Wilfredo Gomez
40 Carlos Zarate
41 Evander Holyfield
42 Miguel Canto
43 Jack Dempsey
44 Billy Conn
45 Luis Rodriguez
46 Wilfred Benitez
47 Ruben Olivares
48 Marcel Cerdan
49 Charley Burley
50 George Foreman
51 Stanley Ketchel
52 Gene Fullmer
53 Joe Frazier
54 Pascual Perez
55 Ricardo Lopez
56 Tiger Flowers
57 Joe Gans
58 Kid Choclate
59 Azumah Nelson
60 Jimmy McClarnin
61 Antonio Cervantes
62 Sonny Liston
63 Terry McGovern
64 Eusebio Pedroza
65 Mike McCallum
66 Dick Tiger
67 Tony Zale
68 Beau Jack
69 Joe Walcott
70 Carlos Ortiz
71 George Dixon
72 Jung-Koo Chang
73 Jeff Fenech
74 Tommy Loughran
75 Manuel Ortiz
76 Jake LaMotta
77 Nino Benvenuti
78 Vicente Salvidar
79 Panama Al Brown
80 Floyd Patterson
81 Abe Attell
82 Jeff Chandler
83 Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
84 Georges Carpentier
85 Khaosai Galaxy
86 Pancho Villa
87 Estaban DeJesus
88 Harold Johnson
89 Maxie Rosembloom
90 Lennox Lewis
91 Les Darcy
92 Frankie Genaro
93 Mike Tyson
94 Nicolino Locche
95 Benny Lynch
96 Jack Britton
97 Mark Johnson
98 Ken Buchanan
99 Jersey Joe Walcott
100 Felix Trinidad ;)

OWNED!!!!1111
Yeah lol idiot. We were referring to all-time greats at his division, but you missed that one apparently. Also, if this is your all-time great fighters list in general, it is a pretty ****ty one. Let me illustrate:

Ali at 4th? Behind Henry Armstrong? ummm... That's a first.
Marciano at 33rd?
Patterson at 80th?

Need I go on? I'll say it in smaller and more accurate words...owned.

I have no qualms about henry armstrong being at number 2 at all...he was awesome. Ali could've been the best p4p ever if he wasn't sidelined by that political bull**** for 3 years. And as much as I like Tszyu, there is no way in hell that he should be higher than RJJ. RJJ is a once in a lifetime kinda fighter and deserves to be called an all-time great!

I have no qualms about henry armstrong being at number 2 at all...he was awesome. Ali could've been the best p4p ever if he wasn't sidelined by that political bull**** for 3 years. And as much as I like Tszyu, there is no way in hell that he should be higher than RJJ. RJJ is a once in a lifetime kinda fighter and deserves to be called an all-time great!
I know who Armstrong is, but he was never the caliber of Ali. Ali was well-known because of his personality as well as his accomplishments. The political stuff aside, Ali would have demolished every fighter on that list at heavyweight IMO(He did beat some of the best ever), so I feel that he is P4P the best ever.

I know who Armstrong is, but he was never the caliber of Ali. Ali was well-known because of his personality as well as his accomplishments. The political stuff aside, Ali would have demolished every fighter on that list at heavyweight IMO(He did beat some of the best ever), so I feel that he is P4P the best ever.

I would put Armstrong ahead of Ali based on the fact that he held world titles at multiple weights including 3 at the same time if I'm not mistaken. And Ali wouldn't "demolish" every other fighter...he may beat them, but if a young, more experienced Foreman had another crack at him he could beat him, and Larry Holmes certainly had the jab and all around skills to give Ali boatloads of trouble and possibly beat him.

And theres no way that Tszyu should be close to Roy on an all-time list. If Kostya were to say go out and win the super middleweight title then yeah maybe. Roy is the best fighter of the last ten years...like Kimmy said, his last few fights shouldn't take away from his greatness.

I would put Armstrong ahead of Ali based on the fact that he held world titles at multiple weights including 3 at the same time if I'm not mistaken. And Ali wouldn't "demolish" every other fighter...he may beat them, but if a young, more experienced Foreman had another crack at him he could beat him, and Larry Holmes certainly had the jab and all around skills to give Ali boatloads of trouble and possibly beat him.
I see what your saying, but what is your point in relevance to Ali? I don't care if you only hold one belt, beating fighters like Sonny Liston, Jerry Quarry, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, etc. is enough to establish your #1 ranking. Sorry about the "demolish" sarcasm. I didn't think someone would actually take that seriously. LOL.

I see what your saying, but what is your point in relevance to Ali? I don't care if you only hold one belt, beating fighters like Sonny Liston, Jerry Quarry, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, etc. is enough to establish your #1 ranking. Sorry about the "demolish" sarcasm. I didn't think someone would actually take that seriously. LOL.

My point in establishing Armstrong ahead of Ali was pretty clear. Ali might have had the toughest resume of any fighter ever, but Armstrong fought the top guys of his day IN MULTIPLE WEIGHT CLASSES, he fought much more than Ali, and held world titles at different weights. It's harder to move out of your best weight and beat top guys but Armstrong did this. He was also an animal in the ring. I didn't see any sarcasm in your demolish statement it looked pretty serious to me but if it was sarcastic than I'm sorry for ranting when I shouldn't have.

just read a post about tsyzu vs delahoya where someone said
both were all time greats..

seeing as tsyzus only had just over 30 fights can he
really be called that..your views please :lol:

and hes been koed

too early to tell...he hasn't been tested that far...and having a ko-punch isn't everything in boxing...not to mention future breeds of fine boxers...

all-time australian boxer...might as well be.

Yeah lol idiot. We were referring to all-time greats at his division, but you missed that one apparently. Also, if this is your all-time great fighters list in general, it is a pretty ****ty one. Let me illustrate:

Ali at 4th? Behind Henry Armstrong? ummm... That's a first.
Marciano at 33rd?
Patterson at 80th?

Need I go on? I'll say it in smaller and more accurate words...owned.

WOW! You sure have something to say when you dont have a damn list. Lets see you're list? Or YOU are truly the idiot.LOL

You cant argue that top 3, in fact some can argue Armstrong can be number 1.

As far as Tszyu goes though, he ranks in the top 5 in his weight division.

Kostya is definitely an all time great at 140!

LOL @ idoit! How am I talking trash? Lucky me I have this list sitting on my computer.LOL

All of these fighters are better then Tszyu and DLH P4P. Flame away!!!

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Roberto Duran
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Ezzard Charles
6 Joe Louis
7 Eder Jofre
8 Carlos Monzon
9 Harry Greb
10 Ray Leonard
11 Willie Pep
12 Sam Langford
13 Archie Moore
14 Marvin Hagler
15 Benny Leonard
16 Alexis Arguello
17 Gene Tunney
18 Pernell Whitaker
19 Julio Cesar Chavez
20 Salvador Sanchez
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Emile Griffith
23 Roy Jones Jr
24 Jose Napoles
25 Jimmy Wilde
26 Jack Johnson
27 Thomas Hearns
28 Michael Spinks
29 Bob Foster
30 Fighting Harada
31 Mickey Walker
32 Aaron Pryor
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Ike Williams
35 Tony Canzoneri
36 Kid Gavilan
37 Larry Holmes
38 Bob Fitzsimmons
39 Wilfredo Gomez
40 Carlos Zarate
41 Evander Holyfield
42 Miguel Canto
43 Jack Dempsey
44 Billy Conn
45 Luis Rodriguez
46 Wilfred Benitez
47 Ruben Olivares
48 Marcel Cerdan
49 Charley Burley
50 George Foreman
51 Stanley Ketchel
52 Gene Fullmer
53 Joe Frazier
54 Pascual Perez
55 Ricardo Lopez
56 Tiger Flowers
57 Joe Gans
58 Kid Choclate
59 Azumah Nelson
60 Jimmy McClarnin
61 Antonio Cervantes
62 Sonny Liston
63 Terry McGovern
64 Eusebio Pedroza
65 Mike McCallum
66 Dick Tiger
67 Tony Zale
68 Beau Jack
69 Joe Walcott
70 Carlos Ortiz
71 George Dixon
72 Jung-Koo Chang
73 Jeff Fenech
74 Tommy Loughran
75 Manuel Ortiz
76 Jake LaMotta
77 Nino Benvenuti
78 Vicente Salvidar
79 Panama Al Brown
80 Floyd Patterson
81 Abe Attell
82 Jeff Chandler
83 Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
84 Georges Carpentier
85 Khaosai Galaxy
86 Pancho Villa
87 Estaban DeJesus
88 Harold Johnson
89 Maxie Rosembloom
90 Lennox Lewis
91 Les Darcy
92 Frankie Genaro
93 Mike Tyson
94 Nicolino Locche
95 Benny Lynch
96 Jack Britton
97 Mark Johnson
98 Ken Buchanan
99 Jersey Joe Walcott
100 Felix Trinidad ;)

OWNED!!!!1111

Does this ranking look familiar to another one;

www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219104&page=2

Tam-Tam, is that you?

P.S. Be careful how you answer that question because I know Tam-Tam VERY, VERY, VERY well. ;)

Ricky Hatton would knock Kostya Tszyu out cold.

Does this ranking look familiar to another one;

www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219104&page=2

Tam-Tam, is that you?

P.S. Be careful how you answer that question because I know Tam-Tam VERY, VERY, VERY well. ;)

Ouch!!!!
:D :D :D

Ouch!!!!
:D :D :D

I think it's safe to say that this "SweetScience" guy's all-time ranking has been EXPOSED!

Oscar is a great fighter and would go down in the hall of fame.I give him credit for stepping up to the challenge and fighting big names. But how many really big names did he beat.
He lost to Mosley twice, tito, Hopkins and should of lost to sturm.
He would lose to all of them again, if he eva got a rematch.


he lost to sturm n hopkins n mosley tha 1st time, but not to mosley rematch and tito

he lost sturm and hopkins because that was not his weight class

Merry Christmas! Expose nah...I can dig up another Top 100, it changes ever other day. :p

Merry Christmas! Expose nah...I can dig up another Top 100, it changes ever other day. :p

Merry Christmas you fraudulent ****er! :p

If you decide to dig up another one, please...don't use any of mine. Thank you.

In all seriousness, I like Tszyu as a fighter...very exciting to watch. DLH is a good fighter as well. I'm not trying to put these guys down but when I seen "all time great" I just gave my opinion on both fighters that's all.

Merry Christmas fellas!

KT is an all-time great. He would be in the fight with anyone ever at 140.

how the **** do u make a top 100 all time greats list, when most of them, u have neva seen fight. ediot.

How about Gatti? No love for my boy? I honestly think Gatti is an all-time great. I like him better than Kosta whatever his name is. On a side note, I alwyas thought that guy was Japanese. Guess he's Russian. I would never have guessed.. lol.

I think Kostya Tszyu has done enough in and out of the ring to be considered on of the all time greats. I believe that he and Bernard Hopkins are the 2 best fighters of this mellinium

See the problem with Tszu is that he has lacked the big fights. he has beaten some very good fighters but not the likes of a mayweather or a De la Hoya etc..
He did KO Zab Judah and this is probably his best win but apart from that he hasn`t got the name reconition on his record. He is one of the best Jnr Welters of all time, maybe top three material but he needs a fight with a big name future legend. JC Chavez don`t count because he was shot to bits, but I think a De La Hoya fight or Mosley if Mosley can get his act together and won so meaningful fights would make sense. Of course the best fight out there at Jnr Welter is one against Mayweather Jnr but i don`t think HBO and showtime will work that one out, too much money and too much risk on both sides.


You guys don't think Judah is as good as Mayweather? Shucks

That guy asked for 100 welterweights.

The guy never said top welters, he said top 100 P4P.

And nobody ever asked for the top 100 welters either, so save it.

how the **** do u make a top 100 all time greats list, when most of them, u have neva seen fight. ediot.

No spelling ****er.

How about Gatti? No love for my boy? I honestly think Gatti is an all-time great. I like him better than Kosta whatever his name is. On a side note, I alwyas thought that guy was Japanese. Guess he's Russian. I would never have guessed.. lol.


Yeah, I gotta lot of respect for Gatti too.

He was just calling you on your smartass post about how you wouldn't put KT in your top 100 you flaming idiot. You probably can't even list 100 welterweights and your talking trash. Get the point?

Dude, you're the idiot.

Think it is still too early to decide if he is an all time great, since his carreer has not ended yet. People tend to remember fighters last fights (example Spinks was highly regarded before being destroyed by Tyson). So until he hangs up the golves for good, his place in the all time list not be really validated.

Ricky Hatton would knock Kostya Tszyu out cold.

Thanks bro, I needed a laugh. :D

IMHo you can judge if a fighter is in top 100 p4p only after he is done... And for all these people who say that Hatton will KTFO Tszuy.... Ya all musta forgot how Zoo ktfo'ed Juda, Ya all musta forgot how he dominated his division and beat a ****load of great fighters while Hatton beat non. :D

Just because Roy Jones has recently sucumbed to old age doesn`t mean he is less of a fighter. He achieved quite a bit in his career and dominated teh lightheavy weight division for almost 7 yrs. This guy is an all time great, he should be ranked higher than Tsyzu.The argument may rage on for quite a while. Roy dominated the light heavies for some 7 years, right; but Tzyu, did it for 10 (with one debacle in the hands of Philipps, one can still call it "domination" as he virtually rolled over all subsequent opponents; e.g., the U.S. is still the dominant world power even after Vietnam and with all the problems in Iraq, and nobody's saying it isn't). There has been a lot of complaints about Roy's roster of victims, little has been heard about Tszyu's. Roy has been reported countless times as having ducked (a return match) Hopkins for years--only conceding for a possible rematch after Hop appeared to have advanced in age; but that possibility remained in the realm of possibility, becoming ever more remote now. Tszyu has never been reported to have ducked anyone.

But the more interesting discussion to me would be Oscar-Kostya. The Golden Boy has faced (and lost most) nearly every big name in his vicinity; Tszyu still has to face one. At catchweight of 144, the fight should be staged. Why 144? So that Kostya can claim he fought below the next higher division and gets a chance to have a win (if a win it shall be)listed as a jr. welter win. And Oscar, if he wins, has a shot at improving his welterweight all-time status. ;)

Think it is still too early to decide if he is an all time great, since his carreer has not ended yet. People tend to remember fighters last fights (example Spinks was highly regarded before being destroyed by Tyson). So until he hangs up the golves for good, his place in the all time list not be really validated.Spinks is still highly regarded as a lightheavyweight. In most lists of all-time lightheavyweight greats of highly respected journals, he occupies a slot at the top ten.

He lost to Tyson as a heavyweight, well above his best fighting weight.

But I agree, Spinks, like the man he beat--Holmes-- for a tighter grip of his all-time status, is one great fighter often overlooked--but, that it not all because of the loss to Tyson (only partly so). It is just that for most of the history of boxing, lightheavy, smack in the middle of the glamour divisions such as the heavy and the middle, has always been the lesser neighbor.

Only the devoted of boxing fans remember Sam Langford--a light heavy, and one of the greatest of all time regardless of weight. There are even those among fans who remember Sam only because he fought heavyweights!

The lightheavyweights used to be where the cruisers are now... :o