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Cuauhtémoc1520
06-21-2011, 04:47 PM
Spar anymore. I'm getting up there in age, late 30's and the young guys at the gym are starting to catch up to me. I do spar amateur boxers, pro MMA fighters and have sparred pro boxers as well but it's getting tougher and tougher.

I wonder when I will be too old to spar anymore? I'm in good shape, have over 50 amateur fights and lot's of experience but I some times think and wonder when it will all end.

Boxing isn't like basketball or baseball where you can keep playing for a long time as long as you take care of yourself. Boxing is a young man's game for sure.

Young Money
06-21-2011, 06:00 PM
It's true that boxing is a young man's game - enjoy it while it lasts.

I think it will be a sadder day when I can't get my old feller up.. luckily they have pills for that now.

Cuauhtémoc1520
06-22-2011, 04:44 PM
Hahaha, my wife always tells me I shouldn't spar anymore but I at least compromised and just bought the full face headgear so I don't go to work with busted lips and black eyes...

abdiel2k3
06-22-2011, 04:47 PM
fuk that
si se puedeeeee

RurouniYume
06-22-2011, 06:42 PM
remember old Foreman when he took back the title at 45 and then remember Ali who didn't mind aging and got himself Parkinson's. Gotta know when it's time to slow down

TheAuthority
06-23-2011, 05:45 AM
Spar anymore. I'm getting up there in age, late 30's and the young guys at the gym are starting to catch up to me. I do spar amateur boxers, pro MMA fighters and have sparred pro boxers as well but it's getting tougher and tougher.

I wonder when I will be too old to spar anymore? I'm in good shape, have over 50 amateur fights and lot's of experience but I some times think and wonder when it will all end.

Boxing isn't like basketball or baseball where you can keep playing for a long time as long as you take care of yourself. Boxing is a young man's game for sure.

It's time to stop sparring when you stop enjoying it mate.

We have a guy in our gym who still spars at 47-49 ish. He is slow and his reflexes aren't the best but 30 odd years of experience mean he can still hold is own with most lads.

I know this may seam strange but, I think I will enjoy sparring more as I age. I love trying to out think my opponents - thats what I love about boxing. As I age and slow down, out thinking my opponents will be the only way I can be competetive. I regularly spar with a lad who is about the same hight as me but about 20kg less (I go lighter, obviously), he's much faster than me but I can get round this (sometimes :)...) by trying to out think him - I love it !!!

Another reason to continue as long as you can is simply to provide an experienced sparring partner for your lads - They will learn from you.

TheAuthority
06-23-2011, 06:47 AM
But yeah ... sooner or later we won't be able to box / spar anymore and yeah ... it will be a very sad day.

Cuauhtémoc1520
06-23-2011, 09:58 AM
It's time to stop sparring when you stop enjoying it mate.

We have a guy in our gym who still spars at 47-49 ish. He is slow and his reflexes aren't the best but 30 odd years of experience mean he can still hold is own with most lads.

I know this may seam strange but, I think I will enjoy sparring more as I age. I love trying to out think my opponents - thats what I love about boxing. As I age and slow down, out thinking my opponents will be the only way I can be competetive. I regularly spar with a lad who is about the same hight as me but about 20kg less (I go lighter, obviously), he's much faster than me but I can get round this (sometimes :)...) by trying to out think him - I love it !!!

Another reason to continue as long as you can is simply to provide an experienced sparring partner for your lads - They will learn from you.


Yes definitely and I love it....

Not trying to sound like I'm a great boxer but I do have 50+ amateur fights and still do very well in the gym. The problem I guess I'm having is that the 18 and 20 yr olds are starting to get at me more and more.

I could probably do better than most guys my age, I guess I'm just going through a little but of a mid life crisis because I'm starting to get hit more and more by the young guys. The guys are all either amateur boxers or pro MMA guys so I guess it could be worse.

I hear what you are saying though, I think the key is staying in great shape. I'm thinking about quitting meat and alcohol all together, will be a tough thing, especially the meat.

I also love sparring with my students, they seem to have much more respect for me than other trainers who are out of shape or don't spar with them.

Rip Chudd
06-23-2011, 10:08 AM
remember old Foreman when he took back the title at 45 and then remember Ali who didn't mind aging and got himself Parkinson's. Gotta know when it's time to slow down
What's the deal with the flat back picture? just askin..........

Chip2006uk
06-23-2011, 11:13 AM
You can still spar, just spar more with the novices and beginners rather than pros or experienced amateurs.

Novices and beginners can learn a lot from being in the ring with someone with as much experience as yourself, true you wont be able to go all out or get into any gym wars but at the end of the day you have to think of your health.

Cuauhtémoc1520
06-23-2011, 04:57 PM
You can still spar, just spar more with the novices and beginners rather than pros or experienced amateurs.

Novices and beginners can learn a lot from being in the ring with someone with as much experience as yourself, true you wont be able to go all out or get into any gym wars but at the end of the day you have to think of your health.

I do that now, it's the best way I train the young fighters at my gym. I find that when you put two inexperienced guys, they try and kill each other and don't learn anything.

TheAuthority
06-23-2011, 05:21 PM
I could probably do better than most guys my age, I guess I'm just going through a little but of a mid life crisis because I'm starting to get hit more and more by the young guys.

It's a win / win situation then mate. As their coach, I'm sure that if they weren't improving you would be dissapointed. Maybe, it is they who are improving rather than you declining?

Just out of interest, how does it feel, when you work on a combination / counter with one of your boxers and the next sparring session they pull it off against you ??? :)

I do the same and spar with the some of the lads I coach. It's a strange feeling - basically I'm learning someone how to hit me. I worked with one of our lads feinting the left jab and following with a left hook - He got me everytime !!! haha

Big BRICKS
06-23-2011, 05:26 PM
Don't spar me, I'll put you into early retirement.

Haha just messin dude. 50 amateur fights, holy smokes. Chill out, sip on a Corona, enjoy your life.. No harm in that.

Outta curiosity, got any videos of the amateur fights? I bet you're a beast.

project xxx1
06-23-2011, 05:30 PM
keep going till you stop enjoying it,i box with a guy who is 47 at our gym,yea i agree we are all quicker than him but his timing is spot on,he also has great fitness level,maybe you have to re adjust your tactics little bit but keep going,alot people will learn so much by just sparring someone with your experience.

Cuauhtémoc1520
06-23-2011, 10:51 PM
It's a win / win situation then mate. As their coach, I'm sure that if they weren't improving you would be dissapointed. Maybe, it is they who are improving rather than you declining?

Just out of interest, how does it feel, when you work on a combination / counter with one of your boxers and the next sparring session they pull it off against you ??? :)

I do the same and spar with the some of the lads I coach. It's a strange feeling - basically I'm learning someone how to hit me. I worked with one of our lads feinting the left jab and following with a left hook - He got me everytime !!! haha

Hahaha you know whats funny, I was working with this kid on how to counter hooks to the body when your on the ropes, he hit me right in the nose with a perfect right upper cut after I threw the left hook to the body...my eyes started watering he hit me perfectly.

Don't spar me, I'll put you into early retirement.

Haha just messin dude. 50 amateur fights, holy smokes. Chill out, sip on a Corona, enjoy your life.. No harm in that.

Outta curiosity, got any videos of the amateur fights? I bet you're a beast.

Actually I do, lots of them but they are all VHS (Don't do the old jokes) I don't know how to get them transferred. I was going to turn pro in 90' but ended up getting arrested the same year and then when I got out in 92', got my GF pregnant and there went my career.

keep going till you stop enjoying it,i box with a guy who is 47 at our gym,yea i agree we are all quicker than him but his timing is spot on,he also has great fitness level,maybe you have to re adjust your tactics little bit but keep going,alot people will learn so much by just sparring someone with your experience.

Yea thanks, Damn 47 that's a lot older than me. You made me feel better. That's the key is still keeping in shape, it's hard when I'm always training someone instead of training myself.

Shabba Rank$
06-23-2011, 11:55 PM
What's the deal with the flat back picture? just askin..........

I was gonna ask the same thing to...

:lol1:

Rockin'
06-24-2011, 12:12 AM
maybe you can't really spar like you once could but look on the bright side, atleast you can still get in there and roll if you want to. 2 years ago I had a stroke that has my left side pretty messed up still. I was going to the gym and sparring with different pros before it happened and more than held my own against them. Now I can't even throw a jab or a hook which means it is completely over for me in the ring. Try dealing with that after 20+ years of being in and around it.

Sh*t, I had even passed my certification to begin refereeing the pros, I had been reffing the amatuers for awhile, it was like a duck in water. Now I can't move as I once had so reffing the pros is out. I talked with the guys in the game and they said just be a pro judge then. It's not the same at all, judging from reffing, but I guess atleast I'll still be in the game. You have your health and abilitie to move properly, you don't have it bad at all...........Rockin':boxing:

TheAuthority
06-24-2011, 05:26 AM
Hahaha you know whats funny, I was working with this kid on how to counter hooks to the body when your on the ropes, he hit me right in the nose with a perfect right upper cut after I threw the left hook to the body...my eyes started watering he hit me perfectly.


Haha ... Good stuff pal !!!

Cuauhtémoc1520
06-24-2011, 08:32 AM
maybe you can't really spar like you once could but look on the bright side, atleast you can still get in there and roll if you want to. 2 years ago I had a stroke that has my left side pretty messed up still. I was going to the gym and sparring with different pros before it happened and more than held my own against them. Now I can't even throw a jab or a hook which means it is completely over for me in the ring. Try dealing with that after 20+ years of being in and around it.

Sh*t, I had even passed my certification to begin refereeing the pros, I had been reffing the amatuers for awhile, it was like a duck in water. Now I can't move as I once had so reffing the pros is out. I talked with the guys in the game and they said just be a pro judge then. It's not the same at all, judging from reffing, but I guess atleast I'll still be in the game. You have your health and abilitie to move properly, you don't have it bad at all...........Rockin':boxing:

Damn homie, I didn't know that. No, I know I have nothing to complain about. I could be in a much worse place in my life. The only major regret I have as far as boxing is concerned is not turning pro. I was actually really good as a young boxer and was always told I had a "pro style".

I train young fighters now at two different gyms here in South Florida. That keeps me going and I love going to the gym, just once in a while that old part of me keeps wanting to compete and I even thought about entering the Masters but 2 times, there was nobody in my same age and weight class so I didn't get to fight.