I think it's quite obvious that Wlad is the better Offensive fighter, but I see we have some fools on this board, so lets take a vote.

Lets get some reasoning as well.

Wlad of course and it is all he has....Toney is a far more complete fighter but it is hard to argue Wlads offensive skills against any fighters in the HW division right now. ;)

Toney has good defence, but Wlad has enough power to punch right through it. He is too big and too strong for Toney.
Toney does not have enough power to bother him.
Offencively I think Wlad is better, his offense was never an issue, his issues was his defence and Manny got that sorted as he showed in the Peter fight, blocked all the punches, and tied Peter up when he had to. Wlad will just keep him away with the jab and drop left hooks.

Toney is not an offencive fighter...
He is the best counter-punchers in the game though

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/mnash_98/pot-head.jpgToney has good defence, but Wlad has enough power to punch right through it. He is too big and too strong for Toney.
Toney does not have enough power to bother him.
Offencively I think Wlad is better, his offense was never an issue, his issues was his defence and Manny got that sorted as he showed in the Peter fight, blocked all the punches, and tied Peter up when he had to. Wlad will just keep him away with the jab and drop left hooks.

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Rodger and Manny P care to argue your case, its 13-1 and Rodger is the one that voted for Toney.

I havent even voted ethug.

Enayze, do you despise Toney or something?

As far as the question of this thread, it's a no brainer...Wlad is an offensive machine in the division right now. Toney was always known for his defense, his use of his body to protect himself, and capitalizing off mistakes opponents make.

He hates Toney and only likes Wlad because theyre both ethnic Slavs.
Enayze, do you despise Toney or something?

As far as the question of this thread, it's a no brainer...Wlad is an offensive machine in the division right now. Toney was always known for his defense, his use of his body to protect himself, and capitalizing off mistakes opponents make.

Toney is the better fighter. Nobody is going to argue that. He has achieved more so far in his career, keep in mind Wlad is only 29. Wlad has the best offensive arsenal in the division, and Toney is the best defensive fighter and counterpuncher.

Toney = Defensive Genious
Wlad = Offensive Machine

Enayze, do you despise Toney or something?

The answer to this question is NO. What happened was Enayze was arguing with Rogers=Bust if Wlad would beat Toney. So they were arguing about who has the better offense and Roger said Toney did. Now in order to show him what a stupid nut hugging statement that was he had to make this thread.

Toney is a defensive genius, no doubt. But offensively he is not that prosperous. And should not be even compared to Wlad. Even in lighter devisions he was always a wear-em down fighter.

Enayze, do you despise Toney or something?

As far as the question of this thread, it's a no brainer...Wlad is an offensive machine in the division right now. Toney was always known for his defense, his use of his body to protect himself, and capitalizing off mistakes opponents make.

No I dont despise him, but I just dont like what his fans are building him up to be. Toney beat a top 30 fighter, and Manny P and Rodger are claiming that Toney is the best offensive, and defensive fighter in the division, that he can take down god himself, and all that bull****. Im just tryin to bring them back to the real world. Wlad versed a much more dangerous fighter than Guinn and won 10 out of 12 rounds.

I never claimed him to be the best, racist.
No I dont despise him, but I just dont like what his fans are building him up to be. Toney beat a top 30 fighter, and Manny P and Rodger are claiming that Toney is the best offensive, and defensive fighter in the division, that he can take down god himself, and all that bull****. Im just tryin to bring them back to the real world. Wlad versed a much more dangerous fighter than Guinn and won 10 out of 12 rounds.

The answer to this question is NO. What happened was Enayze was arguing with Rogers=Bust if Wlad would beat Toney. So they were arguing about who has the better offense and Roger said Toney did. Now in order to show him what a stupid nut hugging statement that was he had to make this thread.

Thank you for pointing that out. :killyou:

I think it's quite obvious that Wlad is the better Offensive fighter, but I see we have some fools on this board, so lets take a vote.

offensively wladimir is better becuase Toney is a counter puncher. Whose defense and chin is better? well that goes to JAMES TONEY

No I dont despise him, but I just dont like what his fans are building him up to be. Toney beat a top 30 fighter, and Manny P and Rodger are claiming that Toney is the best offensive, and defensive fighter in the division, that he can take down god himself, and all that bull****. Im just tryin to bring them back to the real world. Wlad versed a much more dangerous fighter than Guinn and won 10 out of 12 rounds.

That's very hypocritical considering who you're a fan of (If you are indeed a fan of the guy in your avatar.) Because he doesn't beat the best the division has to offer.

Vitology is a big *****. He aint about challening the best.

Vitology says hes the best, "dont talk about it... be about it."

Vitology says hes the best, "dont talk about it... be about it."

For once I agree with you about something.

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what kind of prick dedicates there page to insulting a white rapper. He's still more talented than you though isnt he u stupid ****ing pillock. or is that a lil racist jibe? get a grip u dumb cunt

wlad has the jackhammer left jab, the thunderpunch right cross, and the earthshattering left hook.

toneys just got the counter right hand.

Toney

As soon as Wlad would get hit, he'd have no offensive arsenal to speak of.

Wlad is the more offensive arse of the two though. although Vitali would call Wlad's arse just right.

Toney ... it's all inside stuff but it's mad angles and varied to his head and body ... Wlad's tall.

That's it. Jab. Right hand. pfftttt ...