View Full Version : who do ya'll think had the best reflexes in boxing


Versastyle
10-02-2005, 04:06 AM
my pick would be tyson. he jus knew when those punches in the 80s were coming it was like he was a psychic,and he was so quick to get out of the way of them.he couldnt be touched

punchers_chance
10-02-2005, 04:09 AM
Floyd Mayweather or a prime RJJ.

M26
10-02-2005, 04:10 AM
Definitely Muhammad Ali. He had almost superhuman reflexes.

Mike Tyson was quick as well, but no one really comes close to a prime Ali.

Roy Jones jr also had awesome reflexes.

666boy666
10-02-2005, 04:41 AM
I'm the biggest tyson fan ever

I've always hated rjj

But even I cannot contest that rjj had without a doubt the quickest reflexes

I've yet to see anything from Ali that would be considered superhuman. He was very good at winning fights he shouldn't be able to win, but superhuman? hardly. He used the rules of boxing to his advantage more than anyone else has, and should get credit for it, but the way he beat men in the ring could never have happened outside of it.

Floyd doesn't have fast reflexes, he's just fast period. Rjj had crazy reflexes. I can't remember the fighter, but I saw a guy once throw a punch at roy, and roy hit him with a left and a right AND got out of the way before the punch could follow through, it was like matrix **** man.

Tyson was fast as hell, but no one comes close to RJJ, the most talented man I've ever hated :)

medium-deek
10-02-2005, 05:07 AM
naseem hamed

Tha Greatest
10-02-2005, 05:13 AM
Hmm...

I'd have to go with Gatti or LaMotta, their reflex's were unreal!

Rovers
10-02-2005, 05:38 AM
naseem hamed

definatly in his prime
he hardly got touched by robinson

The Pretender
10-02-2005, 05:47 AM
Tyson a bum that got KTFO by two journeyman tomato cans and quit on his stool like a *****. He got one reflex, to QUIT! And it's faster than any other fighter out there. Compare that to a true champ like Ruiz who never ducked anyone in his career and challenges everyone anywhere anytime. And speaking of the latin king, he has top 5 handspeed of all time.

666boy666
10-02-2005, 05:50 AM
definatly in his prime
he hardly got touched by robinson


yeah..........then there was that whole barrera thing.......you know, the one where he kind of like ...um.....made the prince look like marry poppins?

666boy666
10-02-2005, 05:52 AM
My vote is still RJJ, but Sugar Ray Leonard was pretty good in that area too

JUYJUY
10-02-2005, 09:04 AM
Roy Jones Jr had the most naturally fast reflexes.

kerrminator
10-02-2005, 10:02 AM
naseem hamed when he was under Brendan Ingle as Ingle trained him to exell in what came naturally.

any doubters should watch the Robinson fight as this was his true prime.

Tarver is my dad
10-02-2005, 10:16 AM
I would have to say Roy Jones. His reflexes were cat-like and no one comes close with the reflexes that he had.

Versastyle
10-02-2005, 02:49 PM
Tyson a bum that got KTFO by two journeyman tomato cans and quit on his stool like a *****. He got one reflex, to QUIT! And it's faster than any other fighter out there. Compare that to a true champ like Ruiz who never ducked anyone in his career and challenges everyone anywhere anytime. And speaking of the latin king, he has top 5 handspeed of all time.



i did say an 80s tyson had good reflexes let me repeat it an eeeeeeiiiiiightiessssss tyyyyyyyyyyyson. and ruiz got beat by somebody that was originally in the 175 lb weight class. why do u think he went for ruiz instead of anyone else,cause he was the sorriest champion in the heavyweight weight class and it would look good on his resume to beat a heavyweight champion.and i think the real reason why he went back down to weight cause he knew all the other champions were better then ***** ass ruiz.

Versastyle
10-02-2005, 02:50 PM
prime tyson hardly ever got hit and when he did the commentators would make a big deal about,now that tells u right there on how rare him getting hit was.

Tony Blitz
10-02-2005, 03:10 PM
prime tyson hardly ever got hit and when he did the commentators would make a big deal about,now that tells u right there on how rare him getting hit was.
I love the fight where he's fighting that tall skinny guy with the fro (the one who he charged at with one punch after a KD) and the guy's on the ropes throwing at Tyson and Tyson just keeps slipping under all of them until he lands a liver shot.

JohnL
10-02-2005, 03:15 PM
1. Ali
2. Benitez
3. RJJ
4. Whitaker
5. Ray Leonard

666boy666
10-02-2005, 03:49 PM
I love the fight where he's fighting that tall skinny guy with the fro (the one who he charged at with one punch after a KD) and the guy's on the ropes throwing at Tyson and Tyson just keeps slipping under all of them until he lands a liver shot.


Michael "jack" Johnson. That was one of my favorite tyson schoolings :) Then again, ole' "jack" wasn't exactly a heavyweight lol

Versastyle
10-02-2005, 05:04 PM
i liked tyson vs eddie richardson when he gave him that left hook he carried him half across the ring when he flew like suuuuuuuuuuuuper maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaann!!!!!!

The_One77
10-02-2005, 05:09 PM
Roy Jones for me, the guy was awesome in his prime.

Versastyle
10-02-2005, 09:43 PM
i think the best reflexes have to be based on the punch stats on how much they got hit.

Dempsey 1919
12-16-2005, 04:30 PM
ali, ali, ali. if the sharp-punching liston couldn't hit him, then probably nobody could. there you have it!

Undefeated
12-16-2005, 04:35 PM
il either say floyd mayweather or RJJ

but ima have to go with ALI!!!!

deuce_drop
12-16-2005, 04:36 PM
Pernall Whitaker, hands down, the guy could fight with his feet glued to the floor and no one could hit him. he was probably the most elusive fighter ever, at least in the top 5 of most elusive fighters ever!!!!! and he fought everyone he never ducked anybody, he took on all challengers......

Dirt E Gomez
12-16-2005, 04:38 PM
RJJ, without a doubt, not a single thing in my brain says otherwise. In his prime his reflexes surpassed any other fighter's reflexes.

MickyHatton
12-16-2005, 04:42 PM
Herol Bomber Graham.

He used to have a party trick were he would pay people money if they could land one shot on him in a round (public)

Maybe he should have paid Julian Jackson?

DiegoFuego
12-16-2005, 04:54 PM
Floyd Mayweather

The Noose
12-16-2005, 07:05 PM
naseem hamed when he was under Brendan Ingle as Ingle trained him to exell in what came naturally.

any doubters should watch the Robinson fight as this was his true prime.

And who was Robinson???

When Naseem stepped up his oppostion....he got put on the seat of his fancy dancing pants!!

Not once, but several times.

He didnt fall over, he was KD. By three different fighters in a short in his "prime".

The Noose
12-16-2005, 07:08 PM
I also say Ali, Whitaker, and Jones.

Leonards movement was great, but he was hit.

Yet it was so damn hard to lay a solid shot on Whitaker. Just watch the DeLa Hoya fight.
Oscar was a very fast, big puncher with a good reach, and he hardly caught Whitaker cleanly through 12 rounds.
Unbelievable reflexes.

JUYJUY
12-16-2005, 07:19 PM
Early Herol Graham was untouchable (literally), nobody could lay a glove on him. In terms of punch stats, it's hands down Herol Graham.. because he never got hit. Most avoided fighter ever.

1994/95 Naseem Hamed (before he stopped training) was on a different planet to anybody else in boxing, and Roy Jones Jr was anybody else.

But Roy Jones was born with exceptionally fast reflexes.

The Noose
12-16-2005, 07:25 PM
Early Herol Graham was untouchable (literally), nobody could lay a glove on him. In terms of punch stats, it's hands down Herol Graham.. because he never got hit. Most avoided fighter ever.

1994/95 Naseem Hamed (before he stopped training) was on a different planet to anybody else in boxing, and Roy Jones Jr was anybody else.

But Roy Jones was born with exceptionally fast reflexes.

Before he fought world class opposition.

Before he was exposed.

JUYJUY
12-16-2005, 08:23 PM
Before he fought world class opposition.

Before he was exposed.
Absolute nonsense. Hamed looked absolutely awful after he stopped training, similar to Tyson after Spinks. Hamed looked so much slower it was unreal, a joke.

Londonerzz
12-16-2005, 09:03 PM
roy jones jr...then mayweather and prince naseem hamed

The Noose
12-16-2005, 09:21 PM
Absolute nonsense. Hamed looked absolutely awful after he stopped training, similar to Tyson after Spinks. Hamed looked so much slower it was unreal, a joke.

According Naz, in his words, Ingle NEVER really trained him.

He always fought with his own skills and natural reflexes.

Im sure ur rite, he did look bad after Robinson.

But to me it seems a very easy excuse to say, he stopped training, and give his opponents no credit whatsoever.

Who did he fight before Robinson that is of note??

Are u saying he stopped training as soon as he became world champion??

He became world champion, fought some mexicans no one has ever heard of. Then when he fought decent fighters (decent, not great) he was caught with shots.

I just think that with his style, and the confusion of his opponents he didnt necessarily prove that his reflexs were anything great, but his awkward flashy style made him look great.

Most of the time he was at distance, with a very wide stance. His opponents couldnt get near him.

Great reflexes? Nothing special. Duran was twice as good.

The Noose
12-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Actually, if im honest. I need my Naz memory refreshed. Its been a while.

Zab Super Judah
12-16-2005, 10:58 PM
roy jones had some amazing reflexes in his prime. It allowed him to do the things that no other fighter could do.

grayfist
12-17-2005, 12:01 AM
The puerto Rican Dean of Defense early in his career: WBenitez. He slipped punches by scant millimeters before unleashing counters. Some fans thought of his style as a tad boring but experts widely agree that he raised defense and counter-offensive close to the level of Performing Arts.

Willie Pep, of course.

And, Nicolino Locche of Argentina, who ruled the Jr. Welters from Dec. 1968 to late 72. He lost only 4 fights and KOd only 17 of his 117 victims, relying all throughout on his defensive instincts and peppery, albeit, light punches, all products of his extra-ordinarily quick reflexes. He was dubbed, "The Untouchable."

All in no particular order. ;)

Keleneki
12-17-2005, 09:35 AM
Ali, Whitaker, Benitez and Jones Jr. My goodness, those four were pretty much untouchable in their respective primes.

marvdave
12-17-2005, 11:30 AM
SRL
Jones,Jr.
Ali

top three for sure

marvdave
12-17-2005, 11:32 AM
Roy Jones Jr had the most naturally fast reflexes.


props to you for not saying Chris Eubank :D

Manfredo Jr
12-17-2005, 11:34 AM
Prince naseem :D

Pico Hollywood
12-19-2005, 05:14 AM
Wilfred Benitez, Ali and Mayweather

NAB
12-19-2005, 07:26 AM
Has to be Jones Jr. The guy was a freak.

number6
12-19-2005, 08:51 AM
Whitaker and Prince Naz deserve a mention but if i have to pick out one man it would be Roy Jones jr.

jspivey
12-19-2005, 05:19 PM
Who has the best reflexes in boxing? In this generation, Floyd Mayweather is atop of the list. Or Roy Jones Jr. in his prime. Before
these two, I'd have to say "Sugar Ray Robinson. These guys were all untouchabale. Mayweather still is for the time being.