View Full Version : Why do some MMAers hate Ariel Helwani ?


Monte Fisto
06-16-2011, 11:53 PM
BJ Penn and Rampage have been vocal about their dislike for Helwani. I try to dig up some vids and articles that Helwani has done and the ones I've read and watched shows no proof of why some MMAers have a strong dislike for the guy.

He doesn't come off bias, or seems to have an agenda whenever he interviews. Unlike boxing's Teddy Atlas.

Do you know of any articles or vids by Helwani showing a strong bias towards a fighter ? If so, please post it. Thank you.

$BloodyNate$
06-17-2011, 12:08 AM
I love Rampage but just because he asked him about King MO thats why he hates them which is a little childish and being defensive but I think the main thing they have a problem with is him "instigating", like say you gave somebody criticism but you didn't mean it in a certain type of way and a person goes up to that guy and says "O HES TALKIN MAD *****! YOU GONNA TAKE THAT?"

Thats why Diaz had a problem with him, him and Daley had mad respect for each other, probably big fans of each other because their both exciting as **** and Ariel was trying to make it seem like they were talking ***** or something even though it's his job, I kinda understand.

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Monte Fisto
06-17-2011, 12:17 AM
I love Rampage but just because he asked him about King MO thats why he hates them which is a little childish and being defensive but I think the main thing they have a problem with is him "instigating", like say you gave somebody criticism but you didn't mean it in a certain type of way and a person goes up to that guy and says "O HES TALKIN MAD *****! YOU GONNA TAKE THAT?"

Thats why Diaz had a problem with him, him and Daley had mad respect for each other, probably big fans of each other because their both exciting as **** and Ariel was trying to make it seem like they were talking ***** or something even though it's his job, I kinda understand.

Can you post a vid or article where Helwani is instigating ? If Helwani is just flatout making sh*t up to st*r sh*t up, then that's wrong. But, I also find it funny that out of all people, it's pro MMAers who are getting butthurt because someone is talking sh*t, like, that's part of the fight game, ya know what I mean ?

$BloodyNate$
06-17-2011, 12:25 AM
haha yeah i feel you. I don't really got no footage but I just heard on numerous MMA sites Rampage just butthurt because he was eating and Ariel asked him a question about King Mo and they hate each other, I don't know if King Mo said something about Rampage or if it was just out of a blue(which I could understand too).

I think I heard Daley or Diaz said they were going to knock the other one out, but not in a disrespectful way because usually all fighters say "I'm going knock him out." Not 100% sure.

You can download "The MMA Hour" with Rampage on it, it's the show which Ariel hosts in a live stuido and that's where that happened. It's in the video section I think Obama or Dj.Ice uploaded it. It was before the Hamil fight so I'd look for the MMA Hour in the week before 5/30/11.

Jack3d
06-17-2011, 01:17 AM
Because Ariel toes the line on fighter questions. He'll ask the questions that a lot of other journalists don't have the balls to ask a professional fighter, and for that, a lot of fighters don't really like him.

A lot of fans have started to dislike him too because he's basically become a Zuffa employee and tends to kiss Dana's ass a lot. But with the UFC having a stranglehold on MMA, if you aren't on Dana's good side, needless to say it's going to be hard for you to cover the sport when he blackballs you

$BloodyNate$
06-17-2011, 01:26 AM
Because Ariel toes the line on fighter questions. He'll ask the questions that a lot of other journalists don't have the balls to ask a professional fighter, and for that, a lot of fighters don't really like him.

A lot of fans have started to dislike him too because he's basically become a Zuffa employee and tends to kiss Dana's ass a lot. But with the UFC having a stranglehold on MMA, if you aren't on Dana's good side, needless to say it's going to be hard for you to cover the sport when he blackballs you

Yeah and usually if your that big of a nuthugger if your favorite fighter hates somebody, especially if their just a scrawny little reporter not even a fighter, then the fans most likely hate them too.

Also thats why MMAJunkie always wins the MMA Media award at the "World MMA awards" because Dana likes them. He's not really a big fan of Sherdog's and if it wasn't for Sherdog being around a lot longer they'd probably be struggling. Might as well just name them the Zuffa awards.

.Mik.
06-17-2011, 06:32 AM
I seem to remember BJ directly addressing his beef with Ariel by saying that he thought that Ariel didnt like him, which Ariel denied and they made friends.

THE_BIG_HURT
06-17-2011, 09:45 AM
I seem to remember BJ directly addressing his beef with Ariel by saying that he thought that Ariel didnt like him, which Ariel denied and they made friends.

yea i remember this too. Penn asked him why he didnt like him and Ariel said that BJ was actually one of his favorites of all time and then him and BJ hugged it out. it was actually cool of Penn and im not his biggest fan

Virgil Caine
06-17-2011, 11:31 AM
Maybe because he's a low-talent, shillish, amateur reporter, who's also been known to stir up **** on the basis of internet gossip in cheap attempts at getting a rise out of people.

Because he's soft spoken and comes off as an intelligent guy, people are fooled into thinking he's a legitimate reporter. He isn't, what he is is a rank amateur who has been given a significant platform. Just listen to his interviews, he is in more cases than not incapable of asking poignant questions, and he seems to derive his material from the likes of Sherdog or The Underground forum gossip.

alexbr
06-17-2011, 12:43 PM
I'de rather see that over a boring interview anyday of the week.

Virgil Caine
06-17-2011, 01:38 PM
I'de rather see that over a boring interview anyday of the week.
That's all well and good, but it does say something about your level of intelligence and/or level of knowledgeablity as a fan if you'd rather see some wannabe hipster joker ask questions based on internet lulz (which more often than not the fighters themselves are not even in on) than actually discuss substantive matters.

ƒallenloki
06-17-2011, 01:58 PM
I'm not a fan of Helwani.

He's a UFC journalist, not MMA

Jack3d
06-17-2011, 03:15 PM
That's all well and good, but it does say something about your level of intelligence and/or level of knowledgeablity as a fan if you'd rather see some wannabe hipster joker ask questions based on internet lulz (which more often than not the fighters themselves are not even in on) than actually discuss substantive matters.

Like asking cliche redundant questions like

"are you excited about this fight?"
"what was the training camp like?"
"how tough is your opponent?"
"you're opponent does this well, how will you counter that?"
"what is your gameplan for this fight?"

Ariel is a lot better than a LOT of other MMA reporters who ask the same stupid questions and get the same stupid answers.

He doesn't ask questions purely based on internet lulz. There may be one in an interview, but's it's not the entire basis of it.

py2o3434
06-17-2011, 04:03 PM
I'm not a fan of Helwani.

He's a UFC journalist, not MMA

so covering SF and UFC makes him a UFC journalist... hmm

Virgil Caine
06-17-2011, 04:07 PM
Like asking cliche redundant questions like

"are you excited about this fight?"
"what was the training camp like?"
"how tough is your opponent?"
"you're opponent does this well, how will you counter that?"
"what is your gameplan for this fight?"

Ariel is a lot better than a LOT of other MMA reporters who ask the same stupid questions and get the same stupid answers.

He doesn't ask questions purely based on internet lulz. There may be one in an interview, but's it's not the entire basis of it.
I agree with you completely. MMA "journalists" and "reporters" are compete ****.

Here's someone to check out who is actually worthwhile though:
http://eddiegoldman.com/

Goldman has been in this game longer than anybody.

JDezi4
06-18-2011, 01:54 AM
I don't like him becuz he asks stupid questions obviously trying to instigate. I'm not saying he does it with malicious intent, more so for hyping fights, but its still annoying when he does it.

Like for example I just watched a vid where Mayhem Miller was INDIRECTLY saying that he feels Nick Diaz was afraid of him. Ariel was basically trying to force Mayhem to up and say it directly as if the audience couldn't figure out what Mayhem was getting at. That came off purely like instigation, and even Mayhem was annoyed by it

AL YANKAB*TCH
06-18-2011, 03:52 AM
Some of the fighters don't like him because he unintentionally poked several of them in the eye with his huge nose.

Virgil Caine
06-18-2011, 07:40 AM
Some of the fighters don't like him because he unintentionally poked several of them in the eye with his huge nose.
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