`STEELHEAD
12-21-2004, 05:13 AM
dont you think it would make a differents if they couldnt weigh more than there weight class on fight night.
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View Full Version : should boxers be required to weigh no more then their weight class on fight night? `STEELHEAD 12-21-2004, 05:13 AM dont you think it would make a differents if they couldnt weigh more than there weight class on fight night. leff 12-21-2004, 05:21 AM Well every boxers would push themselves down weight anyway, however being badly dehydrated with just a couple og hours to eat and drink to get back upp would mean,2 things one the fighters would be more tired. 2 it would be a lot more dangerous to fight while dehydrated. pinaldino 12-21-2004, 07:51 AM Well every boxers would push themselves down weight anyway, however being badly dehydrated with just a couple og hours to eat and drink to get back upp would mean,2 things one the fighters would be more tired. 2 it would be a lot more dangerous to fight while dehydrated. That's why I think some fighters would move up to where they belong, and stop starving themselves to make weight in a class where they can meet smaller fighters and have an advantage in morphology. It's one thing to loose maximum fat, but it's another one to dehydrate your body to make weight. a dangerous one as you say. And when you have a natural, let say 140 pounder on the scale /142 the night of the fight, who meets a guy who weighted in at 140 but is over 150 the night of the night, I think it's just dangerous for the smaller guy! Bombardier 12-21-2004, 09:20 AM Gains after the weigh-in are a pretty serious problem. I think that some amateur tornaments have switched to weighing guys in on the day of the fight...someone with more knowledge can fill us on this. .::|ULTIMATE|::. 12-21-2004, 02:38 PM None. That is boxing, if you were to make fighters dehydrate themselves and make weight on fight day they could end up being seriously hurt. Plus boxing has always been like that, make the lowest weight possible so that you are not outgunned by the biggest of the division. abdiel2k3 12-21-2004, 02:56 PM def weigh in on fight nite fighters should be fighten guys of equal weight on the fight nite all thos esayin guys would get hurt dehydraten themselves dats the points theyd move up to where they belong it would make fights alot fairer then some one like cotto and castillo who come into fights usually 12 lbs heaveir .::|ULTIMATE|::. 12-21-2004, 02:58 PM def weigh in on fight nite fighters should be fighten guys of equal weight on the fight nite all thos esayin guys would get hurt dehydraten themselves dats the points theyd move up to where they belong it would make fights alot fairer then some one like cotto and castillo who come into fights usually 12 lbs heaveir Boxing is about sacrifice dude, whoever is willing to sacrifice themselves the most deserve it. Plus in reality no one actually walks around in their weight division weight so they are all bigger guys, the guys who work the most are the ones who make it to the top. The ones that dont are the ones complaining. amaru 12-21-2004, 03:00 PM That's why I think some fighters would move up to where they belong, and stop starving themselves to make weight in a class where they can meet smaller fighters and have an advantage in morphology. It's one thing to loose maximum fat, but it's another one to dehydrate your body to make weight. a dangerous one as you say. And when you have a natural, let say 140 pounder on the scale /142 the night of the fight, who meets a guy who weighted in at 140 but is over 150 the night of the night, I think it's just dangerous for the smaller guy! i always wondered if boxers would fight any different on the night of the fight if they weighed the same as the limit suggests for their division. i dont know how morales managed to fight at 122lbs. even when he fought barrera recently he was 142lbs on the night of the fight, thats was 10lbs more than barrera. abdiel2k3 12-21-2004, 03:01 PM Boxing is about sacrifice dude, whoever is willing to sacrifice themselves the most deserve it. Plus in reality no one actually walks around in their weight division weight so they are all bigger guys, the guys who work the most are the ones who make it to the top. The ones that dont are the ones complaining. exaxctly and that needs to change it is about sacrifce dehydraten yourself is "workin" its a cheap way to get an advantage and advantage that can cause unfair fights unfair fights that end up with serious injuries Mr. Violence 12-21-2004, 03:07 PM dont you think it would make a differents if they couldnt weigh more than there weight class on fight night. that would be dangerous to the fighters bro. fighters dehydrate themselves to make weight. when you are dehydrated you are more suseptable to getting brain damage from a punch. thats the big reason why Gerald McClellan got messed up in that fight. abdiel2k3 12-21-2004, 03:08 PM that would be dangerous to the fighters bro. fighters dehydrate themselves to make weight. when you are dehydrated you are more suseptable to getting brain damage from a punch. thats the big reason why Gerald McClellan got messed up in that fight. this is why we think they should make wiegh ins the nite of the fight then fighters wouldnt endanger themselves by dehydtraten and go to weights where they belong yes its about sacrifice sacrifice in the gym not hurten ur body to gain an edge Mr. Violence 12-21-2004, 03:14 PM this is why we think they should make wiegh ins the nite of the fight then fighters wouldnt endanger themselves by dehydtraten and go to weights where they belong yes its about sacrifice sacrifice in the gym not hurten ur body to gain an edge oh I hear you now. youre saying they should fight at their "walking around weight"...that might be a good idea. Sidestep_1 12-21-2004, 03:16 PM Weigh in on the morning of fight night ;) . The1God 12-21-2004, 03:29 PM No, I don't think they should. You would see guys struggling to make weight and wearing themselves out before the fight. Should have made this a poll. Boxer2005 12-21-2004, 09:57 PM I think they should..this way there will be no surprises..like Morales showing up 11 pounds heavier.. grayfist 12-21-2004, 10:08 PM Fighters who "pig" after making weight pay the price. The body can only take so much abuse. One cannot drive oneself to near starvation and then suddenly feast! The body needs to adjust...nice and easy. Trainers and managers who allow their wards to starve then feast often watch their fighters become sluggish and indifferent atop the ring. Serves them right. phallus 12-22-2004, 12:58 AM I think they should..this way there will be no surprises..like Morales showing up 11 pounds heavier.. but that 11 pounds didn't help morales, it hurt him, it slowed him down considerably...however, in Kostya Tszu's case i think the fact that he comes in as a junior middleweight to his 140 lb fights gives him a big advantage in power. the trouble is i don't really think there's anything we can do to make it fairer for the fighters. one thing is, i'd rather come in a pound or two overweight at the weigh in and take a penalty for it than dehydrate myself. it takes 72 hours for the brain to recover after dehydration ( the fight happens 24 hours after the weigh in, do the math ), i've lost fights because i was weak and dehydrated, fights i would have won otherwise AKATheMack 12-22-2004, 02:58 AM Boxers would have to change the way they have been training there whole careers, its crazy. And by gaining all that weight in two days is not all that helpfull. Usually the fighter who gains the most is less effective than the fighter who got down to that weight naturally. miron_lang 12-22-2004, 03:16 AM NO. But i think they should make the weight in just 12 hours from fight time. pinaldino 12-22-2004, 04:53 AM Fighters who "pig" after making weight pay the price. The body can only take so much abuse. One cannot drive oneself to near starvation and then suddenly feast! The body needs to adjust...nice and easy. Trainers and managers who allow their wards to starve then feast often watch their fighters become sluggish and indifferent atop the ring. Serves them right. exactly...that's why they would then go the upper division. I find unfair that somebody can fight "much" smaller dudes by loosing several pounds of sweat just before the weight in, and then have a couple of days to readjust and gain 10 pounds. Weight in the morning of the fight would make it impossible (at least staying effective in the ring) . |