View Full Version : How can PAC win over Morales in the Rematch!!!


Pak men
09-29-2005, 01:18 PM
Hi mga pre. I've watched the Morales fight and I give credit to Morales for winning the fight fair and square. Although we will never know what would have happened if PAC wasn't cut and if PAC had his Reyes gloves. But still I think Morales is a dangerous opponent and he's the only one I admire of the three Mexican fighters (JMM and MAB) because he never showed hesitation in fighting PAC unlike the 2 chickens.

However the last fight exposed PAC's weakness from bigger boxers who move and bait PAC. It somehow exposed PAC's weakness from having few moves except some killers.

This is what I think would be the key to winning against Morales in the rematch.

1. The right hook- I'm impressed and ecstatic PAC developed his right to be a killer fist just like the left. The last fight with Velasquez showed that it was a right hook which stunned the Mexican. PAC using the fast right hook in the southpaw stance would be near impossible to defend. He could mix the right hook by faking it and going for the right-lead-uppercut, which is a another new weapon he could use. By using the right hook as a regular weapon against Morales' jabs, it's a sure thing Morales won't be too confident throwing jabs at PAC.

What made PAC so predictable in the last fight is that he wasn't able to fully use his killer blows. The left straight coming from the 1-2 combination and the left hook shot while PAC is in the inside. By varying his shots and using the right hook - right uppercut, Morales won't have too much of a defense from an attack on all fronts.

2. Morales is a bigger guy which works to his advantage, and also his weakness. At 130 he will be forced to have a very lean body, especially the torso part. PAC could use that to his advantage by banging Morales' body in the early rounds. A thin Morales will be very exposed to weakening body shots, while he prepares his killers for the middlet to late rounds (if it goes the distance).

3. Lastly PAC should press Morales like a madman from the first bell until Morales isn't down. The only way he can beat a bigger Morales is by immobilizing him. A hometown decision isn't far off if PAC doesn't dominate Morales.

What about you guys, anong tingin nyo? If PAC does this, add also his other plans, Morales is finished, I'm telling you.

Moon
09-29-2005, 01:38 PM
This is a decent post. It's good to see you are asking questions, instead of blindly saying that Pac will KO Morales and then say no more (which many Pac fans seem to do).

1. For Pac's RHook to be truly effective he would need more speed, which is humanly impossible when you consdier Pac's current delivery.

2. Morales at 130 is tough man. This could be Pac's greatest advantage when you consider how spent Morales must feel when making weight just one day before the fight.

3. I believe Pac's only hope is to adopt this strategy. He has he skill to beat Morales, but probably not over 12 rounds. His best hope is to bombard Morales from the very start.

Pak men
09-29-2005, 01:43 PM
This is a decent post. It's good to see you are asking questions, instead of blindly saying that Pac will KO Morales and then say no more (which many Pac fans seem to do).

1. For Pac's RHook to be truly effective he would need more speed, which is humanly impossible when you consdier Pac's current delivery.

2. Morales at 130 is tough man. This could be Pac's greatest advantage when you consider how spent Morales must feel when making weight just one day before the fight.

3. I believe Pac's only hope is to adopt this strategy. He has he skill to beat Morales, but probably not over 12 rounds. His best hope is to bombard Morales from the very start.
And it's nice you're not an ass-**** starting crazy theories old man.

Morales is dead on Jan 21. I bet on it. Faster? Just look at Morales if he ain't slow. lol!

This is what PAC will do... he said it himself.

Moon
09-29-2005, 02:38 PM
And it's nice you're not an ass-**** starting crazy theories old man.

Morales is dead on Jan 21. I bet on it. Faster? Just look at Morales if he ain't slow. lol!

This is what PAC will do... he said it himself.
Well, I'm wrong again. I actually thought that you might make it through a thread without name-calling, but that's impossible for you.

You asked a question, but for what purpose? It's seems you are not able to discuss much of anything, instead you are ready to pounce on those who don't think Pac will win. It's nothing personal buddy, really. I like Pac and what he brings to the fight game, but I just don't see him developing anything that will "surprise" Erik. In fact, in the first fight I believe it was Erik who surprised Pac's entire team when he stayed on his feet while absorbing Pac's straight left for 12 rounds.

Pac's greatest chance to win this fight is to adopt that approach YOU suggested ..... let the hands fly from the first bell. Erik would be more than happy to accept that challenge, which could prove to be Erik's biggest mistake. This is Pac's best chance at beating Morales.

SnoopySmurf
09-29-2005, 07:16 PM
Pac needs to learn how to counter and clinch. When Pac threw his combos, Erik covered up and then would throw his and Pac would try to skip backwards. He has never tried to side step or tie up Morales.

In the Morales fight, Pac lost the fight because of his skipping backwards. Pac can't deliver a proper counter punch with any weight behind it if he's doing that. Side stepping, blocking and countering while keeping Morales within range is his best chance. Morales has a long reach and his best power is at the end of his long reach.

Let Pac keep his usual work rate but employ some better footwork. As Emmanuel Steward noticed, when Pac attacks, he ends up fully facing his opponent. Morales has a quick reaction and the more target to hit, the harder it is for Pac to block.

abdiel2k3
09-29-2005, 07:24 PM
ull think im haten
but its relaity
his only shot at beatin morales by KOen him
he cant out box him
cuz morales is that good of a boxer
and manny isnt
and whas worse
is that KOin him is that much more difficulkt cuz it is morales
hes already showed he cant take mannys punch
if manny manages to KO morales
its gonna be a nite 2 rememebr
if i was in his corner
id say forget winning a D
just go for the KO
stop wasten energy on those flurries
block and look for the KO
u gota face facts
u rnt better then him
but u might be able to ko him
forget "manilla ice" concentrate on the strait left
its all u got
but way more then most others
so use it

its like when a boxer fights a brawler
they say dont brawl with him BOX him
well id tell manny
dont box with him BRAWL with him

but unfortuantly for him
morales can brawl just as good
but its still manfords only shots
so hes gonna have to risk it

SnoopySmurf
09-29-2005, 07:35 PM
That is the worst poem in the world. And I thought Latinos had rythm. ;)

abdiel2k3
09-29-2005, 07:37 PM
That is the worst poem in the world. And I thought Latinos had rythm. ;)
jes we do have de rythm
its burns inside us with a passion........

SnoopySmurf
09-29-2005, 09:43 PM
jes we do have de rythm
its burns inside us with a passion........


I'll admit, I danced a lil bit. Shika-boom shika-boom! :D

Manny_P
09-29-2005, 09:46 PM
Pac will beat Morales in ta rematch becuz Pac has ta revenge factor. Comin from a loss from Morales, Pac's fire inside to bounce back and win jest doubled.

cdxx
09-29-2005, 10:09 PM
i think the revenge factor will be countered with the fact that morales just lost a fight everyone thought he was gonna win. he knows he has to prove he's not washed up and like barrera said it was just a bad night. i think morales comes in looking to make a statement in this fight. i don't think manny has much a chance unless morales is truly done.

Manny_P
09-29-2005, 10:59 PM
i think the revenge factor will be countered with the fact that morales just lost a fight everyone thought he was gonna win. he knows he has to prove he's not washed up and like barrera said it was just a bad night. i think morales comes in looking to make a statement in this fight. i don't think manny has much a chance unless morales is truly done.

no. Morales woulnt be so fired up cuz he aint fightin Raheem LOL! I bet he's mo confident becuz he beat Pac already once.

bombshell
10-01-2005, 12:03 AM
i hope this time he's on mentally prepared..... :confused:

rsl
10-01-2005, 01:10 AM
This one is difficult because Pac is so technically flawed, I don't think he can fix it w/ the time frame he has to work with. The obvious, the jab can always be better for anybody. Pac jabs to just stick it out there and gauge distance and usually just shoots it one at a time, he was showing it in his tuneup w/ Velasquez in which he pivoted more than I've ever seen him in the past. So work on angles Morales has difficulty w/ angles and will make it more diifficult for him to land his straigt rights. Pac needs to learn to bend at the legs 'cause after he throws his left he's to straight up and that's when the headbutts occur also when he comes in too erect after throwing his left he has to reset and crouch down to throw his flurries(that's too much time in boxing)He also throws his bodyshots from a stand-up position so it really doesn't have any effect on his opponent,he's just arm punching and I think going to the body will be key in this rematch. Don't stay in the inside too long w/ Morales 'cause he's the bigger fighter and Pac will end up wearing himself out. Keep doing what he does best which is volume punching but try to mix up the heavypunching w/ some quick punches 'cause he'll need the stamina for this marathon and it keeps Morales off-balance. Oh and he has a bad habit of leaning back ala Roy and ALi but he's not those guys so it looks really bad when he does it and doesn't have the great balance to counter off it. These bad habits of his are probably something that will be w/ him for the rest of his career. He needs to pick his shots and not just throw, throw, throw w/ no rhyme or reason.

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 07:59 AM
Hi mga pre. I've watched the Morales fight and I give credit to Morales for winning the fight fair and square. Although we will never know what would have happened if PAC wasn't cut and if PAC had his Reyes gloves. But still I think Morales is a dangerous opponent and he's the only one I admire of the three Mexican fighters (JMM and MAB) because he never showed hesitation in fighting PAC unlike the 2 chickens.

However the last fight exposed PAC's weakness from bigger boxers who move and bait PAC. It somehow exposed PAC's weakness from having few moves except some killers.

This is what I think would be the key to winning against Morales in the rematch.

1. The right hook- I'm impressed and ecstatic PAC developed his right to be a killer fist just like the left. The last fight with Velasquez showed that it was a right hook which stunned the Mexican. PAC using the fast right hook in the southpaw stance would be near impossible to defend. He could mix the right hook by faking it and going for the right-lead-uppercut, which is a another new weapon he could use. By using the right hook as a regular weapon against Morales' jabs, it's a sure thing Morales won't be too confident throwing jabs at PAC.

What made PAC so predictable in the last fight is that he wasn't able to fully use his killer blows. The left straight coming from the 1-2 combination and the left hook shot while PAC is in the inside. By varying his shots and using the right hook - right uppercut, Morales won't have too much of a defense from an attack on all fronts.

2. Morales is a bigger guy which works to his advantage, and also his weakness. At 130 he will be forced to have a very lean body, especially the torso part. PAC could use that to his advantage by banging Morales' body in the early rounds. A thin Morales will be very exposed to weakening body shots, while he prepares his killers for the middlet to late rounds (if it goes the distance).

3. Lastly PAC should press Morales like a madman from the first bell until Morales isn't down. The only way he can beat a bigger Morales is by immobilizing him. A hometown decision isn't far off if PAC doesn't dominate Morales.

What about you guys, anong tingin nyo? If PAC does this, add also his other plans, Morales is finished, I'm telling you.
nice post dude... i agree with all three points... actually i was surprised with the right uppercut manny dropped on velasquez the last time out, i think it was around round 4 or 5. it was good to see him use his right more than he probably wants to. but i don't still consider velasquez as a good test for manny because the guy was obviously overhyped by the media prior to the fight. i don't know about the second point though cause morales should toughness in their last fight. while he showed signs of being hurt when pac went to the body, he quickly adjusted his defense. the third point, i would say you hit it a bullseye... he was waiting for morales in the first fight, it may be the respect he has morales or whatever but it was not the pacquiao of old. Manny is aggresive and always jumpstarts from the early goings. i hope he drops his bombs early the next tym out.:D

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:01 AM
This is a decent post. It's good to see you are asking questions, instead of blindly saying that Pac will KO Morales and then say no more (which many Pac fans seem to do).

1. For Pac's RHook to be truly effective he would need more speed, which is humanly impossible when you consdier Pac's current delivery.

2. Morales at 130 is tough man. This could be Pac's greatest advantage when you consider how spent Morales must feel when making weight just one day before the fight.

3. I believe Pac's only hope is to adopt this strategy. He has he skill to beat Morales, but probably not over 12 rounds. His best hope is to bombard Morales from the very start.
my point exactly :D

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:04 AM
Well, I'm wrong again. I actually thought that you might make it through a thread without name-calling, but that's impossible for you.

You asked a question, but for what purpose? It's seems you are not able to discuss much of anything, instead you are ready to pounce on those who don't think Pac will win. It's nothing personal buddy, really. I like Pac and what he brings to the fight game, but I just don't see him developing anything that will "surprise" Erik. In fact, in the first fight I believe it was Erik who surprised Pac's entire team when he stayed on his feet while absorbing Pac's straight left for 12 rounds.

Pac's greatest chance to win this fight is to adopt that approach YOU suggested ..... let the hands fly from the first bell. Erik would be more than happy to accept that challenge, which could prove to be Erik's biggest mistake. This is Pac's best chance at beating Morales.
nah, he didn't absorbed pac's straight lefts for 12 rounds... pac hardly connected with his straight left during the fight... i was caught off-guard when morales turned southpaw though...

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:08 AM
Pac needs to learn how to counter and clinch. When Pac threw his combos, Erik covered up and then would throw his and Pac would try to skip backwards. He has never tried to side step or tie up Morales.

In the Morales fight, Pac lost the fight because of his skipping backwards. Pac can't deliver a proper counter punch with any weight behind it if he's doing that. Side stepping, blocking and countering while keeping Morales within range is his best chance. Morales has a long reach and his best power is at the end of his long reach.

Let Pac keep his usual work rate but employ some better footwork. As Emmanuel Steward noticed, when Pac attacks, he ends up fully facing his opponent. Morales has a quick reaction and the more target to hit, the harder it is for Pac to block.
wow... you made a lot of sense in that post... while i think it is pac's game plan not to engage morales in a toe to toe battle, i blame roach for not telling that to his ward... the part of the fight when erik started assaulting pac and pac's head went behind the ropes made me blink a bit... pac is at worst when backpeddling and i do not deny that... now the only thing to do is learn how to, like you said, side-step and clinch... never mind countering for now cause he won't be learning good countering that fast against morales... but if he does, the better...

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:13 AM
hes already showed he cant take mannys punch
well thank you for telling yourself that he can't take manny's punches :D

forget "manilla ice" concentrate on the strait left its all u got
nice advise from someone who hates manny so much :D

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:16 AM
jes we do have de rythm
its burns inside us with a passion........
it burns inside and his face shows it, mwahahaha...

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:19 AM
i think the revenge factor will be countered with the fact that morales just lost a fight everyone thought he was gonna win. he knows he has to prove he's not washed up and like barrera said it was just a bad night. i think morales comes in looking to make a statement in this fight. i don't think manny has much a chance unless morales is truly done.
if it was an off-night for morales then it was an off-week for manny the first time out... morales fans should not start making excuses and then picking on manny because we can pick on erik much more than you can on manny and oh, we have far more excuses for your rebuttals... :D

AIR_KENG
10-01-2005, 08:23 AM
This one is difficult because Pac is so technically flawed, I don't think he can fix it w/ the time frame he has to work with. The obvious, the jab can always be better for anybody. Pac jabs to just stick it out there and gauge distance and usually just shoots it one at a time, he was showing it in his tuneup w/ Velasquez in which he pivoted more than I've ever seen him in the past. So work on angles Morales has difficulty w/ angles and will make it more diifficult for him to land his straigt rights. Pac needs to learn to bend at the legs 'cause after he throws his left he's to straight up and that's when the headbutts occur also when he comes in too erect after throwing his left he has to reset and crouch down to throw his flurries(that's too much time in boxing)He also throws his bodyshots from a stand-up position so it really doesn't have any effect on his opponent,he's just arm punching and I think going to the body will be key in this rematch. Don't stay in the inside too long w/ Morales 'cause he's the bigger fighter and Pac will end up wearing himself out. Keep doing what he does best which is volume punching but try to mix up the heavypunching w/ some quick punches 'cause he'll need the stamina for this marathon and it keeps Morales off-balance. Oh and he has a bad habit of leaning back ala Roy and ALi but he's not those guys so it looks really bad when he does it and doesn't have the great balance to counter off it. These bad habits of his are probably something that will be w/ him for the rest of his career. He needs to pick his shots and not just throw, throw, throw w/ no rhyme or reason.
post is much appreciated... :D

xzworks
10-01-2005, 12:53 PM
there is two options..
if manny learn to counter or defend after he throws 2-3 combinations.this will give him a head on points and keep his stamina going for more rounds.
he can win a decision by attacking and backup a little if morales counter and attack again.manny should defend or contest the counter.

or

same pacquiao manner.power.focus on power to KO morales in later rounds.manny must hit morales on the body on early rounds so morales lose some stamina.go for a KO.morales is hittable but have strong chin.IMO body is his weakness.

i hope manny will win.go pacman!!

Moon
10-01-2005, 08:25 PM
there is two options..

if manny learn to counter or defend after he throws 2-3 combinations.....

manny must hit morales on the body on early rounds so morales lose some stamina.go for a KO.morales is hittable but have strong chin.IMO body is his weakness.
Both options are not workable.

#1 Manny can never do enough work/training to suddenly become a counterman or develop an effective defense. Manny is a headhunter. You can't change a tiger's stripes. Manny does not have anything close to a good defense. His offense has always been his best defensive weapon.

#2 Manny's plan in the first fight was to go to the body. He had some success in the opening round. From that point on, Manny landed some good hard punches on Erik's ribs, but he remained focused on what he does best .... head hunt. Whenever a guy lands good shots on Manny, his reaction is simple, he says F*ck You and resorts to the left hand down the pipe.

Manny_P
10-01-2005, 09:43 PM
Both options are not workable.

#1 Manny can never do enough work/training to suddenly become a counterman or develop an effective defense. Manny is a headhunter. You can't change a tiger's stripes. Manny does not have anything close to a good defense. His offense has always been his best defensive weapon.

#2 Manny's plan in the first fight was to go to the body. He had some success in the opening round. From that point on, Manny landed some good hard punches on Erik's ribs, but he remained focused on what he does best .... head hunt. Whenever a guy lands good shots on Manny, his reaction is simple, he says F*ck You and resorts to the left hand down the pipe.

yep. I believe that part of ta reason Roach wanted Pac to go to Erik's body so bad is he knows, deep down that it would be very dufficult to KO Morales by jest swarmin his head.

If Pac stays to ta body consistently, Pac will win tis one.

JOM'S
10-02-2005, 03:55 AM
i do agree with most of the posts here where PAC should let his hands go from the opening bell and keep on pressing and IMHO should also do ala MAB against EM toe toe and never backing-up ...

to be able to do this he has to be at the best possible FIGHTING CONDITION he could attain (High Alltitude Training is a good idea)...

AIR_KENG
10-02-2005, 04:58 AM
Both options are not workable.

#1 Manny can never do enough work/training to suddenly become a counterman or develop an effective defense. Manny is a headhunter. You can't change a tiger's stripes. Manny does not have anything close to a good defense. His offense has always been his best defensive weapon.

#2 Manny's plan in the first fight was to go to the body. He had some success in the opening round. From that point on, Manny landed some good hard punches on Erik's ribs, but he remained focused on what he does best .... head hunt. Whenever a guy lands good shots on Manny, his reaction is simple, he says F*ck You and resorts to the left hand down the pipe.
he sticked to his game plan at the early goings and hurt erik alright... and he switched back to head hunting BECAUSE he was told to do so. roach told him to go for the kill after suffering the cut because they feared that the referee would be stopping the fight. that's the explanation to number 2. watch manny work erik's body more on their second fight... barring another headbutt that will cut manny... :D

cdxx
10-02-2005, 05:00 AM
if it was an off-night for morales then it was an off-week for manny the first time out... morales fans should not start making excuses and then picking on manny because we can pick on erik much more than you can on manny and oh, we have far more excuses for your rebuttals... :D

i never said it was a bad night. i said he'll want to prove barrera correct in his assessment that it was a bad night. my point being he'll come in with something to prove. atleast we can agree on one thing you pac fans definately have "far more excuses"...blisters, gloves, distractions in training, head butts, promoters, hotel room stolen by promoter and/or whatever else excuse you guys can come up with. you guys are a joke.

AIR_KENG
10-02-2005, 05:46 AM
i never said it was a bad night. i said he'll want to prove barrera correct in his assessment that it was a bad night. my point being he'll come in with something to prove. atleast we can agree on one thing you pac fans definately have "far more excuses"...blisters, gloves, distractions in training, head butts, promoters, hotel room stolen by promoter and/or whatever else excuse you guys can come up with. you guys are a joke.
haha! thanks! at least we make some of you guys laugh... lol... :D

Moon
10-03-2005, 12:48 AM
nah, he didn't absorbed pac's straight lefts for 12 rounds... pac hardly connected with his straight left during the fight... i was caught off-guard when morales turned southpaw though...
Just watched the fight a couple hours ago, for about the 20th time. Pac definitely caught Erik in every round with a good flush left hand, but not all were fully extended (many were though).

czars_salad
10-03-2005, 09:26 AM
he sticked to his game plan at the early goings and hurt erik alright... and he switched back to head hunting BECAUSE he was told to do so. roach told him to go for the kill after suffering the cut because they feared that the referee would be stopping the fight. that's the explanation to number 2. watch manny work erik's body more on their second fight... barring another headbutt that will cut manny... :D
manny is susceptible to cuts... highly probable due to headbutts
he's a lefty and would usually duck his head towards his right where an orthodox fighter would duck towards the same direction.

Pak men
10-03-2005, 11:15 AM
manny is susceptible to cuts... highly probable due to headbutts
he's a lefty and would usually duck his head towards his right where an orthodox fighter would duck towards the same direction.
He won't be susceptible to the cuts like many think PAC will be. By using the right hook, right-lead-uppercut, he can vary his attack on almost all angles. By using the right more, he'll be less susceptible from headbutss because he doesn't have to lunge and suffer the risk.

The second fight is all about PAC. Morales proved he has no power to KO PAC. He has no capacity to truly hurt him. Hell! Morales never even slowed PAC down. Consider the loss of blood, the blurred vision, and the pain of that cut and still Morales didn't KO PAC. I'd shiver if it was the reverse, Morales will go straight to the hospital.

PAC should go more to the body early. Vary his attacks by using the right hook, right-lead-uppercut. Morales will have a very lean body at 130 which will expose him to body shots.

Also PAC back-peddaled a lot in th first fight. Now that he knows he can't be KO'd, might as well, give it to Morales and stand up to him every inch of the way. No one can survive trading with PAC. And he better focus on that. Use his speed to cut Morales and corner him. Use the same speed to cut in the inside and launch his shots at side angles coming from the lateral/cutting movement.

Do this and Morales is a dead man.

Moon
10-04-2005, 12:04 AM
.... Now that he knows he can't be KO'd, might as well, give it to Morales and stand up to him every inch of the way. ....... Do this and Morales is a dead man.
Let's repeat that ..... "Now that he knows he can't be KO'd". Holy **** that must be a joke, right? Is that really what Pac learned from the first Morales bout? Let's accept your logic just for a moment. So, Morales must also have learned that he can't be KO'd by Pac, eh? Morales even switched-up in the 12th and gave Pac the opportunity to take him out, but it didn't happen. So, who learned what from who? Nobody learned they "can't be KO'd". If Pac or Morales believes this, they don't belong in the ring because they are a danger to themselves.

PAC back-peddaled a lot in the first fight.
F*cking right he did, but it wasn't by design. Morales was throwing and connecting whenever Pac moved back. Doesn't that mean something to you? Pac was off-balance as usual and couldn't reset himself while tumbling backward and getting hit. If Pac was at all a counterman, he might have thrown and landed a few off-balance shots as he was fading backward, but that didn't happen and won't in the 2nd fight.

I'll give you this though, you are right about Pac trading with Morales. Pac cannot beat Morales over 12 tough rounds, even without the cut, so he's got to come out with both guns blaring and do what he does best .... head hunt.

djdiesel
10-04-2005, 01:38 AM
Dfense!! and a couple hail maries..

Pak men
10-04-2005, 08:51 AM
Let's repeat that ..... "Now that he knows he can't be KO'd". Holy **** that must be a joke, right? Is that really what Pac learned from the first Morales bout? Let's accept your logic just for a moment. So, Morales must also have learned that he can't be KO'd by Pac, eh? Morales even switched-up in the 12th and gave Pac the opportunity to take him out, but it didn't happen. So, who learned what from who? Nobody learned they "can't be KO'd". If Pac or Morales believes this, they don't belong in the ring because they are a danger to themselves.


F*cking right he did, but it wasn't by design. Morales was throwing and connecting whenever Pac moved back. Doesn't that mean something to you? Pac was off-balance as usual and couldn't reset himself while tumbling backward and getting hit. If Pac was at all a counterman, he might have thrown and landed a few off-balance shots as he was fading backward, but that didn't happen and won't in the 2nd fight.

I'll give you this though, you are right about Pac trading with Morales. Pac cannot beat Morales over 12 tough rounds, even without the cut, so he's got to come out with both guns blaring and do what he does best .... head hunt.
Moon, if you're using your common sense, PAC had everything working against him.

1. Bad Cut
2. Blood blurring his visions
3. Almost every punch Morales throws hits him square in the face

Add also the glove-switching, Murad cheating from him, He trained in less than 1 month. Morales should have KO"D him

PAC admitted Morales really didn't hurt him that much. He admitted that it was really the blood pouring in his eyes that's why he can't move. He admitted that Barrera hits harder. I'm more inclined to believe him than you do Moon.

But to make things simple. This is what Morales will face in Jan 21

1. No more glove-switching
2. No more Murad bull****
3. PAC training in at least 2 months.

If you got your common sense with you Moon, you'll see Morales won by a slim margin. He had every advantage going in his favor and yet all he got was a UD which was close. Come january, it will be different. And Moon, try to use more of your common sense.

I respect Morales as indeed he is fearless and embodies the true Mexican warrior as opposed to the 2 chickens Barrera and JMM. If PAC still loses in JAn, I accept. The problem is, it's not likely. lol!

After the worst case scenario that PAC has gone through, he only lost by a few points. Considering that if it was Morales who had the cut and it was morales who switched gloves. It's no debate PAC will send him straight to the hospital. lol!

SAN D13GO VILLAN
10-04-2005, 09:17 AM
Come On Now!!! Pac Man And His Fans Allways Have Excuses To Me That's Pretty Lame!!! Just Say That You Had A Bad Night And The Better Man Won That Night, You Guys Make It Seem Like He's The First Fighter To Fight With A Cut To Me That Just Question His Hearth He Looked Like He Didnt Want To Fight No More Just Ask Arturo Gatti About Fighting With Cuts! And You Guys Could Say That Paquiao Is So Great And Unstopable But Remember Who Has The Loses By K.o Even If Their From Early In His Carrer That Just Means That He Had A Questionable Hearth At Some Time.

Pak men
10-04-2005, 10:09 AM
Come On Now!!! Pac Man And His Fans Allways Have Excuses To Me That's Pretty Lame!!! Just Say That You Had A Bad Night And The Better Man Won That Night, You Guys Make It Seem Like He's The First Fighter To Fight With A Cut To Me That Just Question His Hearth He Looked Like He Didnt Want To Fight No More Just Ask Arturo Gatti About Fighting With Cuts! And You Guys Could Say That Paquiao Is So Great And Unstopable But Remember Who Has The Loses By K.o Even If Their From Early In His Carrer That Just Means That He Had A Questionable Hearth At Some Time.
Well, those are not excuses, everyone knows that. Anyway, there will be a rematch and things will be different. The advantages that Morales once had, is gone. And I would like to see PAC dishing his shots using his own gloves, trained hard for 2 months and no more Murad bull**** bothering his head.

Moon
10-04-2005, 10:21 AM
PAC admitted Morales really didn't hurt him that much.
I apologize.

If I had known that Pac had "admitted" Morales hadn't really hurt him, I would also have known to keep my mouth shut.

Moon
10-04-2005, 10:34 AM
He admitted that Barrera hits harder.
This is irrelevant when you consider that Morales hits Pac a hell of a lot more than Barrera. Rounds are usually won based on one guy out-hitting the other, which Morales has done.

Don't be silly by considering Pac's success against Barrera, when discussing the Moarles rematch. Those two events are worlds apart. Barrera will not be fighting Pac in January, so why mention the guy? I know why. Mentioning Barrera gives you a chance to reflect on Pac's "glory days" when he was actually beating a top-tier Feather. Hasn't happened since.