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southcentralcar
06-05-2011, 06:15 AM
just another fight that shows how much ufc judging su.ccks. i mean guida didnt do sh.it and got the win. how is it important that you can take your opponent down and lay on him for 5 mins ? that greasy mofo didnt even use his fists to punch so that thered be no chance of getting submitted, instead he used his shoulders to hit pettis. but that did like NO damage at all. hate boring fights like this, judges should start making shi.t like that a draw so that fighters like guida would at least try to do damage and actually finish the opponent

$Natedatpkid$
06-05-2011, 11:25 AM
I agree. I was just watching the last DREAM: Fight For Japan card yesterday and all those fights were freakin' sick but most went to a decision but the right guys won. I don't get how laying on top of somebody wins you the fight, Pettis was alot busier and easily out struck him on the feet.

It's bull***** how these wrestlers are killin' the UFC...

Marchegiano
06-05-2011, 02:18 PM
It's pretty ***gy yeah, but he was striking Anthony...just because you've no appreciation to the shoulder strike doesn't mean Guida didn't land more strikes....It looked a lot like he was jump humping Pettis....terrible fight, but I don't blame the judges...I blame the rules...MMA desperately needs too look at the rules for what is a useful strike, and what's just coasting enough to stop the ref from standing them up....IMO if you time how long Clay layed about humping Pettis there's no way he wasn't just riding the time out in dominate position...

Pettis shouldn't be so easy to take down if he want to strike...I've no problem with ground fights...if they actually fight...you know....make an attempt to seriously injury your foe...

$Natedatpkid$
06-05-2011, 02:24 PM
It's pretty ***gy yeah, but he was striking Anthony...just because you've no appreciation to the shoulder strike doesn't mean Guida didn't land more strikes....It looked a lot like he was jump humping Pettis....terrible fight, but I don't blame the judges...I blame the rules...MMA desperately needs too look at the rules for what is a useful strike, and what's just coasting enough to stop the ref from standing them up....IMO if you time how long Clay layed about humping Pettis there's no way he wasn't just riding the time out in dominate position...

Pettis shouldn't be so easy to take down if he want to strike...I've no problem with ground fights...if they actually fight...you know....make an attempt to seriously injury your foe...

Yeah I agree those shoulder strikes were pretty nasty but even if he was trying to advance he hardly succeeded, Pettis was coming attack after attack relentless off his back. He did more then Guida's gnp.

It's the same as the freakin Miguel Torres-Demtrius Johnson fight. That fight was freakin awesome though. Torres did way more off his back and all Johnson did was win off takedowns. Another clearly robbery and reason why these fools need to change the rules of scoring to the Japan standards. Except do it round by round instead of judging the whole fight because you forget some ***** sometimes. But Japan rules neutralize wrestlers.

Thats why Japanese fighters can't be successful over here except Okami. UFC is all about control where their fights are always about attack. You can't win by LNP over there hardly ever. Those fights last week where sick! If the UFC put on cards like them nobody would be talking ***** this sport would be 10x more popular.

ƒallenloki
06-05-2011, 04:14 PM
that level of inactivity should be penalized. It was a lesson in dry humping. My dog would be proud.

Big BRICKS
06-05-2011, 04:16 PM
UFC needs knees to grounded opponents.

Marchegiano
06-05-2011, 05:26 PM
UFC needs knees to grounded opponents.

and stomps and a 10 min opening round!

F l i c k e r
06-05-2011, 05:59 PM
UFC needs knees to grounded opponents.

I agree. Allow the knees to the head of grounded opponents. Because then the wrestling game gets changed, not eliminated but definitely LnP masters won't be able to get away with it as much.


As for the fight. I was just short of dumbfounded. I was sitting there and going "how the **** is Guida doing this and my boy Benson couldn't? He is just as good a wrestler."

Then i realized at the 3rd round. Benson wasn't fighting like a *****. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the wrestling, otherwise I wouldn't like Okami. But when you hold a guy in the cradel for 15 secs and the can-opener for 30secs, stand them the **** up! :pat:

Spit Dialect
06-06-2011, 10:28 AM
This is MMA, you can't complain about Guida a WRESTLER doing what he knows best.

Pettis couldn't keep him off of him and couldn't stop the take down. He did well off his back defending the ground and pound but Guida also defended the subs very well.

Styles my friends, it's what happened in this fight. Guida dominated this fight and Pettis had no answer for him.

What did you want Guida to do, stand with Pettis and get KO'd?

F l i c k e r
06-06-2011, 09:10 PM
This is MMA, you can't complain about Guida a WRESTLER doing what he knows best.

Pettis couldn't keep him off of him and couldn't stop the take down. He did well off his back defending the ground and pound but Guida also defended the subs very well.

Styles my friends, it's what happened in this fight. Guida dominated this fight and Pettis had no answer for him.

What did you want Guida to do, stand with Pettis and get KO'd?



lol, actually..... yes. Yes he should stand up and get KO'd. :lol1:

Guida loss his warrior status if you ask me. He isn't a warrior anymore. He can be considered a good fighter but warrior, no. He gets scared shytless of Gomi and now the UFC-rookie Pettis.

southcentralcar
06-07-2011, 10:11 AM
This is MMA, you can't complain about Guida a WRESTLER doing what he knows best.

Pettis couldn't keep him off of him and couldn't stop the take down. He did well off his back defending the ground and pound but Guida also defended the subs very well.

Styles my friends, it's what happened in this fight. Guida dominated this fight and Pettis had no answer for him.

What did you want Guida to do, stand with Pettis and get KO'd?

but what exactly did guida do to win ? i dont know but its hard to call that a fight cuz in a fight you try to damage your opponent. guidas strategy was to take him down and lay on top, not letting pettis stand up and punch. i agree that pettis didnt do anything too so i think it shouldve been a ****in draw

Spit Dialect
06-07-2011, 10:43 AM
lol, actually..... yes. Yes he should stand up and get KO'd. :lol1:

Guida loss his warrior status if you ask me. He isn't a warrior anymore. He can be considered a good fighter but warrior, no. He gets scared shytless of Gomi and now the UFC-rookie Pettis.

So you want him to come in with a game plan that basically guarantees his loss? I understand your frustration but this is part of MMA and boxing. Reason why fighters like St. Pierre and Mayweather aren't the most popular at all times.

Spit Dialect
06-07-2011, 10:46 AM
but what exactly did guida do to win ? i dont know but its hard to call that a fight cuz in a fight you try to damage your opponent. guidas strategy was to take him down and lay on top, not letting pettis stand up and punch. i agree that pettis didnt do anything too so i think it shouldve been a ****in draw

I disagree, Guida wasn't effective on top but that wasn't for lack of trying. He didn't just "lay" on Pettis, he was working but Pettis has a great submission and ground and pound defense. Every time Guida postured up to G&P him, Pettis controlled the wrists and wouldn't allow him to do anything.


Again, I understand people's frustration but it's the way styles make fights at times.

F l i c k e r
06-07-2011, 01:06 PM
So you want him to come in with a game plan that basically guarantees his loss? I understand your frustration but this is part of MMA and boxing. Reason why fighters like St. Pierre and Mayweather aren't the most popular at all times.

lol, I said yeah. He should have went out there and get kayo'd. For 2 reasons. Gomi and Bendo. Guida beat Gomi and Bendo loss to Pettis. So essentially, the guy that last beat Gomi would get kayo'd and Pettis would seem legit enough for Bendo to lose against.

I understand the wrestling. Otherwise I wouldn't like Okami so much.

tracerbullet
06-07-2011, 04:37 PM
Guida is lightweight's GSP - boring.

blaze778
06-08-2011, 07:04 AM
lol, I said yeah. He should have went out there and get kayo'd. For 2 reasons. Gomi and Bendo. Guida beat Gomi and Bendo loss to Pettis. So essentially, the guy that last beat Gomi would get kayo'd and Pettis would seem legit enough for Bendo to lose against.


Uh, not really sure what point you're trying to make. :thinking:

F l i c k e r
06-09-2011, 12:12 AM
Uh, not really sure what point you're trying to make. :thinking:

none. he asked should guida have went in there with a gameplan to get a L?


and i said yes. giving the reasons why I think he should have went in there to get knocked out.

Rudyo
06-09-2011, 12:31 AM
I'm as big a fan of Pettis as anyone, I work like a block away from where he trains in Milwaukee, and have met him like twice. However, Guida won the fight fair and square, not the best fight ever but Guida still did his thing.

Marchegiano
06-09-2011, 09:02 AM
I disagree, Guida wasn't effective on top but that wasn't for lack of trying. He didn't just "lay" on Pettis, he was working but Pettis has a great submission and ground and pound defense. Every time Guida postured up to G&P him, Pettis controlled the wrists and wouldn't allow him to do anything.


Again, I understand people's frustration but it's the way styles make fights at times.

Bull****. I've as much understanding of the sport as the next ass hole who went to ****ing high school. I know the fundamentals..where the **** did Guida build to get to? WTF was he doing other than riding and humping? When watching a good wrestler you can usually tell what he was going for even when he fails to get it. Guida was going for Dominate position, and enough work to not get stood up. He wanted Pettis to **** up. He was in no way try to advance by his own means. He wanted to counter-wrestle.........if you'd ever wrestled before you'd know how disgusting that term is. Guida's a ******