View Full Version : More Impressive Bernard Hopkins or Wilfred Benitez?


cja07007
05-31-2011, 08:43 PM
The youngest and the oldest champions in history. Wilfred Benitez at 17 and Hopkins at 46. Which do you find to be more impressive and why?

Wild Blue Yonda
05-31-2011, 08:47 PM
For that one fight, do you mean?

I admit freely Benitez was long one of my favourites during his time, but I can't see why he wouldn't be favoured, here. Due respect to Hopkins, but beating someone like Cervantes, over fifteen rounds, at age seventeen tops defeating Pascal when you're forty-six.

Each fine achievements, doubtless.

New England
05-31-2011, 08:53 PM
The youngest and the oldest champions in history. Wilfred Benitez at 17 and Hopkins at 46. Which do you find to be more impressive and why?

when i was 17, id probably say being the youngest champion was most impressive


but every day i get closer to 46 (and i've got a ways to go thank the lord,) i grow to appreciate more what hopkins does


being even a relevant journeyman boxer who can go rounds at 46 is remarkable
nevermind win world titles against young prime fighters


any old man will tell you
hopkins
hopkins

IronDanHamza
05-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Benitez.

Beating Cervantes at 17 years of age?

Incredible.

New England
05-31-2011, 08:55 PM
For that one fight, do you mean?

I admit freely Benitez was long one of my favourites during his time, but I can't see why he wouldn't be favoured, here. Due respect to Hopkins, but beating someone like Cervantes, over fifteen rounds, at age seventeen tops defeating Pascal when you're forty-six.

Each fine achievements, doubtless.




lol no love for an old dog like hopkins?



i'm gonna be glad if everything's still working when i'm 46
and i'm no pro boxer lol i talk on the phone and drive on the highway for a living


putting yourself in that position after all those fights and all those years is the greater accomplishment in my eyes, even if the fight itself is less impressive.

Wild Blue Yonda
05-31-2011, 09:00 PM
when i was 17, id probably say being the youngest champion was most impressive


but every day i get closer to 46 (and i've got a ways to go thank the lord,) i grow to appreciate more what hopkins does


being even a relevant journey boxer who can go rounds at 46 is remarkable
nevermind win world titles against young prime fighters


any old man will tell you
hopkins
hopkins

Sadly enough, my forties are in my rear-view mirror, & growing ever-distant.

Even so, I just cannot fathom another 17-year-old in all of Boxing history besting Cervantes. It's got to be the better choice.

IronDanHamza
05-31-2011, 09:12 PM
Sadly enough, my forties are in my rear-view mirror, & growing ever-distant.

Even so, I just cannot fathom another 17-year-old in all of Boxing history besting Cervantes. It's got to be the better choice.

I'm definitely with WBY on this onel.

New England
05-31-2011, 09:15 PM
Sadly enough, my forties are in my rear-view mirror, & growing ever-distant.

Even so, I just cannot fathom another 17-year-old in all of Boxing history besting Cervantes. It's got to be the better choice.




agreed on the win 100%
benitez had to go through a hall of famer at 17
hopkins fought....pascal...

pascal's a blown up MW without much going for him. he had hard fights with diacanu. he's got knockout power and a solid chin and otherwise he was a horrible world champion.
we can probably credit his huge canadian following for him being able to make so much noise




there are, however, more young champions than very old ones
boxing is a young mans game. once you hit your prime (i'm talking about physically only for this one point,) being younger and having less milage is an advantage.
if a kid comes up in the right fighting tradition, and he matures quickly, he can make noise early
it's more rare for a fighter to remain at the top past not only his 35th and 40th birthdays, but in hopkins case his 45th

-Huey-
05-31-2011, 09:18 PM
The youngest and the oldest champions in history. Wilfred Benitez at 17 and Hopkins at 46. Which do you find to be more impressive and why?

I beg to differ...B-hop winning the Light Heavyweight title at age 46 is way more impressive!

Boxing Bob
05-31-2011, 09:49 PM
I have great respect and admiration for all that Hopkins has done but beating an ATG like Cervantes at 17 carries more clout than beating a second tier lightheavy like Pascal.

DarkTerror88
05-31-2011, 11:17 PM
Can I say it's a tie?

One must also consider that B Hop is a gym rat (like most Philly fighters) and can credit his succes mostly to his health and fitness along with his skills and experience at this incredible boxing age of 6000000 years old (or something like that :) ) however. Benitez would rarely train and relied on natural instinct. He was uncannily flawless defensively with incredible counter punching, and wisdom beyond his years.

I'm going to say Benitez.

$Natedatpkid$
06-01-2011, 12:25 AM
That's actually kinda hard choice ha.

17 will never be beaten because nobody really goes pro anymore at least in the US until 18 or so on and that's if they were boxing since they were kids or early teens. Most teenagers are very green.

However like New England said, your body SHOULD be slowing down mid or late 30's nevertheless 40 ****in 6 years old. Not to mention he does it with pure skill, technique, and intelligence which says a lot for how ****in good he is and he hardly gets ANY credit. People still hate which is a ****in joke.

Probably the young Wilfred but only by ONE TINY ITTY BITTY HAIR!

Barnburner
06-01-2011, 03:03 AM
Benitez clearly.

A better question would be what is more impressive if the opponent is the same caliber of fighter.

JAB5239
06-01-2011, 04:11 AM
Benitez.

Hop had years to build his boxing iq and learn all the tricks to be great. But to come in at 17 before you've matured both physically and mentally is prodigious.

IronDanHamza
06-01-2011, 10:01 AM
Benitez.

Hop had years to build his boxing iq and learn all the tricks to be great. But to come in at 17 before you've matured both physically and mentally is prodigious.

Whilst beating Antonio Cervnates at that.

fitefanSHO
06-01-2011, 12:57 PM
Benitez at 17 for sure. Boxing at an elite level (as a welterweight in the era of Leonard Hearns and Duran no less) is not an easy thing to do when u have so little experience, being 17 and all. But there he was making it look so easy, winning the title from a HOF Champion like Cervantes. You might even believe Wilfredo Benitez was literally born to fight, he did it so young and so well. His ring exploits are nothing short of amazing. WOW.

New England
06-01-2011, 01:41 PM
Benitez at 17 for sure. Boxing at an elite level (as a welterweight in the era of Leonard Hearns and Duran no less) is not an easy thing to do when u have so little experience, being 17 and all. But there he was making it look so easy, winning the title from a HOF Champion like Cervantes. You might even believe Wilfredo Benitez was literally born to fight, he did it so young and so well. His ring exploits are nothing short of amazing. WOW.




sad that he burnt out so quickly
imagine what he could have done with more time to hone his skills




you pumped for the game tonight?
here we go bruins
here we go!

and here i was calling for chirelli and julienne's heads on a platter not three months ago

fitefanSHO
06-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Boston Bruins is the family business here, literally. Go BRUINS! :boxing:

cja07007
06-01-2011, 02:43 PM
I agree with most here that benitez is more impressive. He beat a HOFer and to me Bernard accomplishments may be more commendable but seeing 17 year olds at the gym every day really puts this in perspective for me. Just amazing stuff.

dde91
06-01-2011, 03:00 PM
Both are impressive as hell. I would have to give Hopkins win an A due to his age and his prime opponent. And Benetiz win an A+ because he was only 17 years old. He didn't even finish puberty yet lol and beats a HOFer. so they are close as hell but 17 beating a grown man who probably has way more man strength then you is pretty damnn impressive.

bojangles1987
06-01-2011, 05:19 PM
For that one fight, do you mean?

I admit freely Benitez was long one of my favourites during his time, but I can't see why he wouldn't be favoured, here. Due respect to Hopkins, but beating someone like Cervantes, over fifteen rounds, at age seventeen tops defeating Pascal when you're forty-six.

Each fine achievements, doubtless.

Yeah, I agree pretty much completely with this.