View Full Version : Career accomplishments of Pernell Whitaker


Steak
05-29-2011, 02:38 AM
http://aaboxing.blogspot.com/2011/05/career-accomplishments-of-pernell.html

best southpaw of all time?

SCtrojansbaby
05-29-2011, 03:03 AM
Overrated.

JAB5239
05-29-2011, 05:59 AM
http://aaboxing.blogspot.com/2011/05/career-accomplishments-of-pernell.html

best southpaw of all time?

Top 5 anyway.

RubenSonny
05-29-2011, 08:22 AM
Clearly.........

Barn
05-29-2011, 08:31 AM
http://aaboxing.blogspot.com/2011/05/career-accomplishments-of-pernell.html

best southpaw of all time?

I personally think so.

1. Whitaker
2a. Hagler
2b. Pacquiao

I would pick Hagler over Pacquiao just...as of now.

JAB5239
05-29-2011, 08:48 AM
Found this list on another site. I don't agree with the entire order, but its a great reference.

1 Pernell Whitaker
2 Marvin Hagler
3 Vicente Saldivar
4 Tiger Flowers
5 Lew Tendler
6 Flash Elorde
7 Duilio Loi
8 Khaosai Galaxy
9 Freddie Miller
10 Daniel Zaragoza
11 Young Corbett III
12 Laszlo Papp
13 Hector Camacho
14 Ayub Kalule
15 Cornelius Boza-Edwards
16 Horacio Accavallo
17 George KO Chaney
18 Naseem Hamed
19 Winky Wright
20 Yoko Gushiken
21 Bazooka Limon
22 Johnny Wilson
23 Marvin Johnson
24 Jimmy Carruthers
25 Henry Maske

Rockin'
05-29-2011, 09:23 AM
Overrated.

Pernel Whitakers over rated? Man, your dad should have used a trojan the night that you were concieved. Over rated, lmao!!!!!!.....Rockin':boxing:

Barn
05-29-2011, 09:37 AM
Pernel Whitakers over rated? Man, your dad should have used a trojan the night that you were concieved. Over rated, lmao!!!!!!.....Rockin':boxing:

I did this in real life after reading that.

:ugh: ... :lol1:

IronDanHamza
05-29-2011, 04:31 PM
In my opinion, yes.

joseph5620
05-29-2011, 04:41 PM
http://aaboxing.blogspot.com/2011/05/career-accomplishments-of-pernell.html

best southpaw of all time?





He is in my opinion.

Steak
05-29-2011, 06:08 PM
Overrated.
not the response I imagined.

did you read it, by any chance?

Wild Blue Yonda
05-29-2011, 09:55 PM
Found this list on another site. I don't agree with the entire order, but its a great reference.

1 Pernell Whitaker
2 Marvin Hagler
3 Vicente Saldivar
4 Tiger Flowers
5 Lew Tendler
6 Flash Elorde
7 Duilio Loi
8 Khaosai Galaxy
9 Freddie Miller
10 Daniel Zaragoza
11 Young Corbett III
12 Laszlo Papp
13 Hector Camacho
14 Ayub Kalule
15 Cornelius Boza-Edwards
16 Horacio Accavallo
17 George KO Chaney
18 Naseem Hamed
19 Winky Wright
20 Yoko Gushiken
21 Bazooka Limon
22 Johnny Wilson
23 Marvin Johnson
24 Jimmy Carruthers
25 Henry Maske

My presumption is this list must be relatively old, as Pacquiao is not included & would surely be a shoo-in. I don't know when it was made, but it has some nice mentions (Carruthers, & the always-underrated Tendler). Though unpopular, I think I would have Joel Casamayor above Hamed.

RubenSonny
05-29-2011, 10:05 PM
My presumption is this list must be relatively old, as Pacquiao is not included & would surely be a shoo-in. I don't know when it was made, but it has some nice mentions (Carruthers, & the always-underrated Tendler). Though unpopular, I think I would have Joel Casamayor above Hamed.

Maybe because hes active?

jrosales13
05-30-2011, 05:27 AM
Whitaker IMO the greatest southpaw of all time and for me is not even close.

I think it's debatable who's #2 between Hagler and Pac.

lazy
05-30-2011, 06:07 AM
Top 5 anyway.

I agree, maybe even top 3.

bojangles1987
05-30-2011, 07:30 AM
Definitely the best southpaw I ever saw.

gattiwarrior
06-12-2011, 01:20 AM
being the greatest southpaw is an excellent shout , also to the guy that posted whitaker , hagler and pacquaio. Thats another great shout. The 3 of them are all time greats.

whitaker vs pacquaio would be a classic

JAB5239
06-12-2011, 04:38 AM
being the greatest southpaw is an excellent shout , also to the guy that posted whitaker , hagler and pacquaio. Thats another great shout. The 3 of them are all time greats.

whitaker vs pacquaio would be a classic

I love watching Pac fight and couldn't stand watching Pea, but I think Whitaker eats him up and makes him look REALLY bad.

gattiwarrior
06-12-2011, 05:17 PM
what makes a pacman vs whitaker fight more interesting is that whitaker had a very good workrate.

i still take whitaker on points 116-112

but the lack of workrate by mayweather is the reason i think the pacman wins , the fight should have taken place 18months ago both are now slightly past their prime

Ziggy Stardust
06-12-2011, 08:13 PM
Pernel Whitakers over rated? Man, your dad should have used a trojan the night that you were concieved. Over rated, lmao!!!!!!.....Rockin':boxing:

^^^^^ Quote of the year! :hahahaha9:

Poet

SCtrojansbaby
06-12-2011, 08:33 PM
Worst match up for Pernell he would get eaten up. Pacquiao can walk right through Pernell best punches and Pacquiao has the faster hands and will be able to land.

$BloodyNate$
06-12-2011, 08:53 PM
I don't think you could say anybody else was any better. I might be a lil bias but Pernell fought EVERYBODY. Didn't duck nobody, always wanted to fight the best. If he was active today in his prime a Floyd or Pac fight would have been done in a heartbeat.

SCtrojansbaby
06-13-2011, 03:46 AM
I don't think you could say anybody else was any better. I might be a lil bias but Pernell fought EVERYBODY. Didn't duck nobody, always wanted to fight the best. If he was active today in his prime a Floyd or Pac fight would have been done in a heartbeat.


LOL Pernell ducked Ike Quartey and Felix Trinidad for years

JAB5239
06-13-2011, 05:22 AM
LOL Pernell ducked Ike Quartey and Felix Trinidad for years

Can you back this up with any links or documentation showing this statement to be true? Because looking at their records all three were ham strung from 1993 to 1997 with obligatory mandatory's for their respective ABC straps With ALL of their aims to land a fight with DeLaHoya. In 1998 a fight with Quartey WAS made but Whitaker tested positive for drugs and went to rehab. Surely you're not suggesting he used rehab as a way to duck Quartey? Especially since a win over Ike would have catapulted him to a rematch with Oscar.

crold1
06-13-2011, 07:09 PM
Can you back this up with any links or documentation showing this statement to be true? Because looking at their records all three were ham strung from 1993 to 1997 with obligatory mandatory's for their respective ABC straps With ALL of their aims to land a fight with DeLaHoya. In 1998 a fight with Quartey WAS made but Whitaker tested positive for drugs and went to rehab. Surely you're not suggesting he used rehab as a way to duck Quartey? Especially since a win over Ike would have catapulted him to a rematch with Oscar.

He was lined up to fight Tito when Tito was trying to leave DKP. Tito lost in court, had to stay with Don and it fell apart. Go back and watch their twinbill featuring Tito-Barnes; it was happening. DK never let one of his guys fight Pea again until Pea got older after he clowned Chavez.

JAB5239
06-13-2011, 07:50 PM
He was lined up to fight Tito when Tito was trying to leave DKP. Tito lost in court, had to stay with Don and it fell apart. Go back and watch their twinbill featuring Tito-Barnes; it was happening. DK never let one of his guys fight Pea again until Pea got older after he clowned Chavez.

Hadn't realized this, thank you. SC really needs to learn more before spouting such nonsense. I've never liked Whitaker, but geez, give the man his due instead of making things up to tear him down.

crold1
06-13-2011, 09:43 PM
Hadn't realized this, thank you. SC really needs to learn more before spouting such nonsense. I've never liked Whitaker, but geez, give the man his due instead of making things up to tear him down.

Yeah, Tito was going to be with the Levin's and Roy Jones's people (all there in the post-fight interview where they're talking Pea-Tito) and the twinbill was a blatant we'll each fight one to build it show (with Pea matched tougher against Jake Rodriguez). Tito and Don's court fights wrecked a lot of Tito's youth between 95-98. Whitaker moved on to Rivera and almost got beat; possible hangover being disappointed losing a top foe? Who knows but Tito back with King fought mediocrities for his next six fights while Pea fought Rivera twice and then Oscar.

Ducked?

Ha.

SCtrojansbaby
06-14-2011, 09:36 AM
lol its funny how I make a statement and get discredited for not having proof then someone does the same and you tag along no questions asked. I am not surprised the Pernell Whitaker fans on here are basically retro Pacquiao/Mayweather fans

JAB5239
06-14-2011, 10:08 AM
lol its funny how I make a statement and get discredited for not having proof then someone does the same and you tag along no questions asked. I am not surprised the Pernell Whitaker fans on here are basically retro Pacquiao/Mayweather fans

All you're being asked to do is back your statement up. Can you or can you not?

SCtrojansbaby
06-14-2011, 01:32 PM
All you're being asked to do is back your statement up. Can you or can you not?


You don't care if its backed up or not. You will believe what ever helps your argument.

Ziggy Stardust
06-14-2011, 01:46 PM
You don't care if its backed up or not. You will believe what ever helps your argument.

Translation: You're incapable of backing up ANY of the bullsh1t you spout.

Poet

JAB5239
06-14-2011, 07:37 PM
You don't care if its backed up or not. You will believe what ever helps your argument.

In other words you just made that up about Whitaker and can't prove a thing. That's what I figured! :lol1: