You hear a lot of strange things working the boxing beat.

For example Mike Tyson has told reporters that he'd like to feast on Lennox Lewis's (then unborn) children and once spoke with enthusiasm about making Razor Ruddock - with his 'sweet lips' and '*** voice' - his girlfriend. Then there was the time Hector Camacho told the wide-eyed press that he didn't mind a negative fan reaction because he gets his 'girls to boo me in bed' and it was almost a surreal experience to listen to Oliver McCall explain away the incident where he a fought off armed policemen with a Christmas tree in a hotel lobby.

And yet, fight folks can still surprise you when they draw breath to speak. Here's a recent example:

In Las Vegas last weekend International Boxing Federation Champion Chris Byrd told me a was avoiding WBA rival John Ruiz. This is the guy who just gave away 56lbs in a title fight and he actually said he was 'afraid' to fight the Hispanic hugger.

"Everyone in the division is afraid to fight that guy," Byrd stated as though facing the most resoundingly average 'champion' in heavyweight history is tantamount to wrestling a handicap match against two half-starved grizzles while wearing a minced beef leotard.

"I don't fear his skills, strength, punch, size, nothing," Byrd explained. "But he is allowed to use his own rules in there.

"In his fights, Ruiz goes one-two (left and then a right) and holds. The ref breaks it up and then it's one-two, hold, one-two, hold, one-two, hold. That's not boxing. That's not supposed to be allowed under the Queensbury Rules. It's illegal, it is cheating but for some reason referee after referee let the guy get away with it. He should be deducted points and then disqualified for doing it but he's basically allowed to do it regardless.

"When a guy is allowed to use different rules to win a fight than every other heavyweight on the planet why should I want to be part of that? I'd fight him and beat him but why should I climb in there with a guy who doesn't want to box when there's a division full of much more interesting fights for me, including a rematch with Vitali Klitschko? Why should I want to be part of Ruiz and his holding?"

And, moreover, why should b-o-x-i-n-g fans have to watch it?

He speaks the truth.

Ruiz is horrible, but his tactics allow him to win rounds. And winning rounds allows him to win fights.

If I was Byrd, I wouldn't want to fight him either. The type of fighter that beats Ruiz is either a huge puncher, or a hunt and pecker. Why Byrd clearly falls in the second category. Winning a decision 120-108 is not his cup of tea.

I think a fighters like James Toney and Chris Byrd would beat Ruiz because there skill level is so much higher.(you saw what happened with Roy Jones vs. John Ruiz.)

Not to mention Ruiz's last two fights he lost for sure...though Byrd has had some questionable decisions as well. Still, no fighter has ever been as blessed with the judges as Ruiz.

The one-two-hug combo is the most effective combo I ever seen. If the one doesn't land the two will land and if neither of them land the hug will definately land..

Ruiz should only be allowed to fight at christmas time, then every time he hugs, his corner could run over and hold mistletoe over his head to make it more legitimate.

You hear a lot of strange things working the boxing beat.

For example Mike Tyson has told reporters that he'd like to feast on Lennox Lewis's (then unborn) children and once spoke with enthusiasm about making Razor Ruddock - with his 'sweet lips' and '*** voice' - his girlfriend. Then there was the time Hector Camacho told the wide-eyed press that he didn't mind a negative fan reaction because he gets his 'girls to boo me in bed' and it was almost a surreal experience to listen to Oliver McCall explain away the incident where he a fought off armed policemen with a Christmas tree in a hotel lobby.

And yet, fight folks can still surprise you when they draw breath to speak. Here's a recent example:

In Las Vegas last weekend International Boxing Federation Champion Chris Byrd told me a was avoiding WBA rival John Ruiz. This is the guy who just gave away 56lbs in a title fight and he actually said he was 'afraid' to fight the Hispanic hugger.

"Everyone in the division is afraid to fight that guy," Byrd stated as though facing the most resoundingly average 'champion' in heavyweight history is tantamount to wrestling a handicap match against two half-starved grizzles while wearing a minced beef leotard.

"I don't fear his skills, strength, punch, size, nothing," Byrd explained. "But he is allowed to use his own rules in there.

"In his fights, Ruiz goes one-two (left and then a right) and holds. The ref breaks it up and then it's one-two, hold, one-two, hold, one-two, hold. That's not boxing. That's not supposed to be allowed under the Queensbury Rules. It's illegal, it is cheating but for some reason referee after referee let the guy get away with it. He should be deducted points and then disqualified for doing it but he's basically allowed to do it regardless.

"When a guy is allowed to use different rules to win a fight than every other heavyweight on the planet why should I want to be part of that? I'd fight him and beat him but why should I climb in there with a guy who doesn't want to box when there's a division full of much more interesting fights for me, including a rematch with Vitali Klitschko? Why should I want to be part of Ruiz and his holding?"

And, moreover, why should b-o-x-i-n-g fans have to watch it?
Chris Byrd has just earned my 100% respect!! Bravo, bravo, Bravo Chris Byrd. Spoken like a true champ. John Ruiz is a ****ing *****!! He is scared ****less to go into a fight and box within the rules of the game.

No one and I mean no one will beat Ruiz as long as he is allowed to use illegal tactics. He has mastered those illegalities down to a science. Even if he fights Byrd and he is allowed to use his tactics he will defeat Byrd and Toney. I think Toney would get frustrated and possibly commit fouls that may even get him disqualified.

Get Jay Nady to be Ruiz's official ref.

jay nady put on a ref performance for the ages in the ruiz/jones jr fight. look how awful ruiz looks if hes actually forced to GASP box

the reason refs let it keep happening is cuz their on don kings payroll, don wouldnt be happy if hes paying the ref and the ref is doing stuff against his fighters

I'm not sure if it's happened or not before with Ruiz..
but sometimes when refs don't notice illegal things (they always should, so this is no excuse), the figther being hugged / held might need to flail his arms around or tug viciously to overstate the fact that his opponent is holding..

not that they deserve to have to do it, but I think it will help any opponent of Ruiz in any future fight.

The worst part is, Ruiz commits these fouls does not get penalized for them and then constantly *****es like a little ****ing ***** about the opposing boxers tactics. I am convinced that this guy has a vagina underneath that protective cup he wears.

Well said..

It's true that Ruiz uses semi-illegal tactics like hugging his oppenents until they are physically and mentally exhausted and then manages to sneak in some good combinations. But regardless of this, one of the so-called heavyweight champions should step up to the plate, rise to the occasion, and whatever other cliche you wanna use and knock him out. I'm sick of all the moaning and groaning about Ruiz, I mean the man is not invincible. I'm sure V.Klitshco wouldn't have any trouble knocking Ruiz out. Byrd needs to talk like a champion, say he'll knock him out and then do so! :mad:

Chris Byrd is so right, I don't think he should be afraid because of that, but there is no doubt that John Ruiz does what he wants inside the ring. That's what made the Ruiz-Golota fight so good, because they both went beyond the rules and it was fair because both fighters were getting cheap shots. John Ruiz is so horrible, I'm not going to even get into it, I think I expressed my hate of John Ruiz enough throughout the boards :)

Chris Byrd is so right, I don't think he should be afraid because of that, but there is no doubt that John Ruiz does what he wants inside the ring. That's what made the Ruiz-Golota fight so good, because they both went beyond the rules and it was fair because both fighters were getting cheap shots. John Ruiz is so horrible, I'm not going to even get into it, I think I expressed my hate of John Ruiz enough throughout the boards :)
You thought the fight was good? It was painful on the eyes. It could have been good but Ruiz continued his pussiness after the second round and the fight turned into a disaster.

You thought the fight was good? It was painful on the eyes. It could have been good but Ruiz continued his pussiness after the second round and the fight turned into a disaster.
I thought it was good everytime Golota landed a face shot on Ruiz's ugly face. I also thought it was good when The Garden was rocking and people were beating the hell out of each other in the stands. I also thought it was good untill round 10 was over, when the judges and DK screwed Golota....again. That's when the fight got bad for me, but other than that, I loved ever second of it

I thought it was good everytime Golota landed a face shot on Ruiz's ugly face. I also thought it was good when The Garden was rocking and people were beating the hell out of each other in the stands. I also thought it was good untill round 10 was over, when the judges and DK screwed Golota....again. That's when the fight got bad for me, but other than that, I loved ever second of it
I was curious to ask whoever was there, because I was making plans on going to the garden that night but decided to stay home with friends and watch it instead. Who was brawling in the stands? Was it Puerto Ricans against Polish or just everyone brawling.

Byrd has the right to ***** about Ruiz. How can you not when you already know the guy is gonna make up his own rules and win. Ruiz hug his opponents more than he fights them. That's not right. And that's why nobody respects him. And he always brag how he doesn't get any respect.

But I do believe that Byrd is one the few guy that has what it take to beat Ruiz. Toney as well because there is no way he'd let Ruiz rape him. And of course V.Klit for his height and weight advantage. Toney-Ruiz? I tell ya that's gonna be classic. Just imagine what Toney would say before the fight.

I was curious to ask whoever was there, because I was making plans on going to the garden that night but decided to stay home with friends and watch it instead. Who was brawling in the stands? Was it Puerto Ricans against Polish or just everyone brawling.
It was Golota fans against anyone who was willing to fight them
There was Polish people fighting other people during the Holyfield fight
There was even a fist fight before the doors opened outside
There was a fight in the stands every round
And in the 5th round there were 2 fights in the stands

Reminds me of a good story...
A polish kid was sitting next to me wearing a Polish flag
Screaming to people behind us "ANDREW GOLOTA"
And the 5 guys screaming back "U-S-A"
Well security comes and tells the kid to leave
The 5 guys yell "Pollock" at him
He flips out and says "THESE MEN ARE IDIOTS"
Security removes him, and hes back 5 minutes later
He starts yelling again (he's drunk as hell)
And pushes a Marine (sitting behind us)
The Marine jumps down a row and punches the kid in the face
The kid falls down on my dad, and security comes and makes him leave
The kid leaves, and walks to another part of the Garden, and starts another fight in the stands. The guy next to me says he went to go see a fight in Korea, and the same kid got thrown out of the fight there too. :D


But the fights in the stands were pretty serious
One guy threw another guy off of the balcony (low balcony)
And from what I heard, he was hurt pretty bad
Crazy atomsphere, I was expecting a riot like the Riddock Bowe fight

You hear a lot of strange things working the boxing beat.

For example Mike Tyson has told reporters that he'd like to feast on Lennox Lewis's (then unborn) children and once spoke with enthusiasm about making Razor Ruddock - with his 'sweet lips' and '*** voice' - his girlfriend. Then there was the time Hector Camacho told the wide-eyed press that he didn't mind a negative fan reaction because he gets his 'girls to boo me in bed' and it was almost a surreal experience to listen to Oliver McCall explain away the incident where he a fought off armed policemen with a Christmas tree in a hotel lobby.

And yet, fight folks can still surprise you when they draw breath to speak. Here's a recent example:

In Las Vegas last weekend International Boxing Federation Champion Chris Byrd told me a was avoiding WBA rival John Ruiz. This is the guy who just gave away 56lbs in a title fight and he actually said he was 'afraid' to fight the Hispanic hugger.

"Everyone in the division is afraid to fight that guy," Byrd stated as though facing the most resoundingly average 'champion' in heavyweight history is tantamount to wrestling a handicap match against two half-starved grizzles while wearing a minced beef leotard.

"I don't fear his skills, strength, punch, size, nothing," Byrd explained. "But he is allowed to use his own rules in there.

"In his fights, Ruiz goes one-two (left and then a right) and holds. The ref breaks it up and then it's one-two, hold, one-two, hold, one-two, hold. That's not boxing. That's not supposed to be allowed under the Queensbury Rules. It's illegal, it is cheating but for some reason referee after referee let the guy get away with it. He should be deducted points and then disqualified for doing it but he's basically allowed to do it regardless.

"When a guy is allowed to use different rules to win a fight than every other heavyweight on the planet why should I want to be part of that? I'd fight him and beat him but why should I climb in there with a guy who doesn't want to box when there's a division full of much more interesting fights for me, including a rematch with Vitali Klitschko? Why should I want to be part of Ruiz and his holding?"

And, moreover, why should b-o-x-i-n-g fans have to watch it?



I am sure Karelin, the legend of Greko-Roman wrestling, is not afraid of Johnny Ruiz and can handle him easily.

I was curious to ask whoever was there, because I was making plans on going to the garden that night but decided to stay home with friends and watch it instead. Who was brawling in the stands? Was it Puerto Ricans against Polish or just everyone brawling.

Even the Puerto Ricans hate Ruiz.

The worst part is, Ruiz commits these fouls does not get penalized for them and then constantly *****es like a little ****ing ***** about the opposing boxers tactics. I am convinced that this guy has a vagina underneath that protective cup he wears.
Nope...You are wrong! If he had a vagina, he would be wearing gum guards down there, not a cup! ;)

You hear a lot of strange things working the boxing beat.

For example Mike Tyson has told reporters that he'd like to feast on Lennox Lewis's (then unborn) children and once spoke with enthusiasm about making Razor Ruddock - with his 'sweet lips' and '*** voice' - his girlfriend. Then there was the time Hector Camacho told the wide-eyed press that he didn't mind a negative fan reaction because he gets his 'girls to boo me in bed' and it was almost a surreal experience to listen to Oliver McCall explain away the incident where he a fought off armed policemen with a Christmas tree in a hotel lobby.

And yet, fight folks can still surprise you when they draw breath to speak. Here's a recent example:

In Las Vegas last weekend International Boxing Federation Champion Chris Byrd told me a was avoiding WBA rival John Ruiz. This is the guy who just gave away 56lbs in a title fight and he actually said he was 'afraid' to fight the Hispanic hugger.

"Everyone in the division is afraid to fight that guy," Byrd stated as though facing the most resoundingly average 'champion' in heavyweight history is tantamount to wrestling a handicap match against two half-starved grizzles while wearing a minced beef leotard.

"I don't fear his skills, strength, punch, size, nothing," Byrd explained. "But he is allowed to use his own rules in there.

"In his fights, Ruiz goes one-two (left and then a right) and holds. The ref breaks it up and then it's one-two, hold, one-two, hold, one-two, hold. That's not boxing. That's not supposed to be allowed under the Queensbury Rules. It's illegal, it is cheating but for some reason referee after referee let the guy get away with it. He should be deducted points and then disqualified for doing it but he's basically allowed to do it regardless.

"When a guy is allowed to use different rules to win a fight than every other heavyweight on the planet why should I want to be part of that? I'd fight him and beat him but why should I climb in there with a guy who doesn't want to box when there's a division full of much more interesting fights for me, including a rematch with Vitali Klitschko? Why should I want to be part of Ruiz and his holding?"

And, moreover, why should b-o-x-i-n-g fans have to watch it?


i have to agree with byrd to some degree...fighting ruiz must be very frustrating...i cant wait until the heavyweight champs fight each other. :)

Byrd has the right to ***** about Ruiz. How can you not when you already know the guy is gonna make up his own rules and win. Ruiz hug his opponents more than he fights them. That's not right. And that's why nobody respects him. And he always brag how he doesn't get any respect.

But I do believe that Byrd is one the few guy that has what it take to beat Ruiz. Toney as well because there is no way he'd let Ruiz rape him. And of course V.Klit for his height and weight advantage. Toney-Ruiz? I tell ya that's gonna be classic. Just imagine what Toney would say before the fight.


no way Toney would let Ruiz rape him, exactly, i can see johnny louise goin in for the hug and JT givin him the right hook to the body followed by a right uppercut. the key to beating huggybear is give him hard uppercuts when he comes in for the hug. i'd like to see a an in shape Rahman in against him, too

The one-two-hug combo is the most effective combo I ever seen. If the one doesn't land the two will land and if neither of them land the hug will definately land..


hahaha LOL :D that's funny, but so true. Ruiz is so horrible to watch, he should be matched-up against Toney or Jirov. Toney would just roll sideways and let loose a vicious uppercut...bam! down goes HuggyBear :p

its 1 thing to do illegal tactics by accident...but ruiz goes in every fight looking to to illegal stuff...im glad tua dropped his ass in the first round..and roy jabbed his head off

the reffs are use to Ruiz, they dont know any better, LMAO

Johnny Ruiz is the greatest champ ever!!! Noone can beat him :p

Why would anyone want to fight ruiz....I'd say he's the most feared fighter in boxing right now and its not from his boxing skills. easily the most annoying unwatchable fighter in the history of the sport

You hear a lot of strange things working the boxing beat.

For example Mike Tyson has told reporters that he'd like to feast on Lennox Lewis's (then unborn) children and once spoke with enthusiasm about making Razor Ruddock - with his 'sweet lips' and '*** voice' - his girlfriend. Then there was the time Hector Camacho told the wide-eyed press that he didn't mind a negative fan reaction because he gets his 'girls to boo me in bed' and it was almost a surreal experience to listen to Oliver McCall explain away the incident where he a fought off armed policemen with a Christmas tree in a hotel lobby.

And yet, fight folks can still surprise you when they draw breath to speak. Here's a recent example:

In Las Vegas last weekend International Boxing Federation Champion Chris Byrd told me a was avoiding WBA rival John Ruiz. This is the guy who just gave away 56lbs in a title fight and he actually said he was 'afraid' to fight the Hispanic hugger.

"Everyone in the division is afraid to fight that guy," Byrd stated as though facing the most resoundingly average 'champion' in heavyweight history is tantamount to wrestling a handicap match against two half-starved grizzles while wearing a minced beef leotard.

"I don't fear his skills, strength, punch, size, nothing," Byrd explained. "But he is allowed to use his own rules in there.

"In his fights, Ruiz goes one-two (left and then a right) and holds. The ref breaks it up and then it's one-two, hold, one-two, hold, one-two, hold. That's not boxing. That's not supposed to be allowed under the Queensbury Rules. It's illegal, it is cheating but for some reason referee after referee let the guy get away with it. He should be deducted points and then disqualified for doing it but he's basically allowed to do it regardless.

"When a guy is allowed to use different rules to win a fight than every other heavyweight on the planet why should I want to be part of that? I'd fight him and beat him but why should I climb in there with a guy who doesn't want to box when there's a division full of much more interesting fights for me, including a rematch with Vitali Klitschko? Why should I want to be part of Ruiz and his holding?"

And, moreover, why should b-o-x-i-n-g fans have to watch it?



....I agree with Byrd on this one, but he doesn't do much fighting himself and IMO he isn't what a heavyweight is supposed to be either.

Chris Byrd: "Every heavyweight is afraid of Johnny Ruiz"
Byrd funny guy:)

Chris Byrd: "Every heavyweight is afraid of Johnny Ruiz"
Byrd funny guy:)
I'm not a heavyweight and I'm not afraid of Ruiz
I don't think anyone on this forum is
I mean, fighting ruiz would be like fighting Santa Clause
You get hugged instead of punched, and he has an ugly beard :)

I'm not a heavyweight and I'm not afraid of Ruiz
I don't think anyone on this forum is
I mean, fighting ruiz would be like fighting Santa Clause
You get hugged instead of punched, and he has an ugly beard :)


you know what teddy atlas would say about that ugly beard, check out my sig :D