View Full Version : Best finishers in boxing history?


$Natedatpkid$
05-14-2011, 06:01 AM
Title says it all. Once they hurt you, who was most likely to finish you only a matter of seconds later? Who were the best closers in boxing?

I start off with Felix Trinidad & Sugar Ray Robinson. Both were offensive machines and once they smelt blood 9 times out of 10 you were on your ass shaking your head if not on your face kissing the canvas asleep.

Who else?

SCtrojansbaby
05-14-2011, 06:17 AM
Julio Cesar Chavez

JAB5239
05-14-2011, 06:35 AM
Louis
Dempsey
Langford
Tyson
Foster
McGovern
Trinidad
Liston
Hearns
Duran
Marciano

IronDanHamza
05-14-2011, 07:32 AM
Ray Leonard was a pretty good finisher.

Barnburner
05-14-2011, 07:40 AM
Ray Leonard was a pretty good finisher.
Beat me to it.

Also Arguello.

House of Stone
05-14-2011, 08:32 AM
not only was leonard a good finisher when he got his man hurt he was also just good finisher of fights in general - nobody finshes the last few rounds better than ray ... if you are not up on points on him going into the last two or three rounds you will lose

New England
05-14-2011, 08:43 AM
both marquez brothers

tyson

saad muhammad

roy jones

danny lopez




one of the most talented finishers i've seen was salvador sanchez
it's a shame we didn't get a chance to see him fight more and put some more scalps on his belt

he had everything you need to be a finisher. it begins and ends with your temperament.
he had power in both hands from all over the place with a ton of snap
to the body and head.
tons of handspeed and perfect timing
and he had a dynamite chin
finishing is about taking risks, it helps to have a great chin to develop the temperament to not be denied when you see a man wilt


the subtleties of finishing can be developed (obviously with the talent god gives a fighter)
but the man that smells blood in the water and goes for the kill is born that way





EDit: he doesn't get enough love here, and he belongs at or near the top
archie moore could knock a man out by accident

talip bin osman
05-14-2011, 09:27 AM
oh man, its hard to go wrong with jack dempsey and joe louis...

JCC deserves a mention too...

IRISH LULLABY
05-14-2011, 09:28 AM
Some excellent choices so far. Aaron Pryor I found to be a supreme finisher with an animalistic killer instinct. He illustrated his ability countless times (vs. Arguello, Johnson, Blackmoore etc), once he smelled blood he would make sure the follow-through was comprehensive.

Scott9945
05-14-2011, 10:03 AM
Joe Louis is always the the first name I think of for this catergory.

Marchegiano
05-14-2011, 12:06 PM
both marquez brothers

tyson

saad muhammad

roy jones

danny lopez




the most talented finisher i've ever seen was salvador sanchez
it's a shame we didn't get a chance to see him fight more and put some more scalps on his belt

he had everything you need to be a finisher. it begins and ends with your temperament.
he had power in both hands from all over the place with a ton of snap
to the body and head.
tons of handspeed and perfect timing
and he had a dynamite chin
finishing is about taking risks, it helps to have a great chin to develop the temperament to not be denied when you see a man wilt


the subtleties of finishing can be developed (obviously with the talent god gives a fighter)
but the man that smells blood in the water and goes for the kill is born that way





EDit: he doesn't get enough love here, and he belongs at or near the top
archie moore could knock a man out by accident

Agreed! Moore always, always, comes to mind when talking KO. More props to the king.

How about the ridiculously under appreciated Harry Mathews? Marciano fought Ted Lowry twice, and could not knock him out in either fight. Mathews fought and KO'd Lowry in the fifth. 90 wins 61 KO's and only 7 losses. Mathews may not be the best finisher in boxing history when compared to the likes found on JAB's list, but is definitely worth a mention and a little remembering.

Excellent thread at first I wanted to just answer "Well my man Rocco of course" but thinking about Joe, and Jack really made me realize, or at least think about, How his KO's are kind of a brand. They're distinct, but so are Joe Louis' and Mike Tyson's. Looking through the names people have posted it's safe to say all the greats come with their vary own flavor. which makes it damn near impossible to say Boxer A is the hands down greatest finisher of all time and know you've got no personal bias due to "cool" factor. To me the absolute coolest moment in boxing was the Suzie Q on Walcott. Was that a damn excellent finish? Yeah, but was it in some way technically superior or inferior to Tyson's KO on Tillman?

NChristo
05-14-2011, 12:32 PM
Wilfredo Gomez was like a lion when he had his man hurt.
Antonio Cervantes and Jose Napoles deserve mentions here as well.

The_Demon
05-14-2011, 12:42 PM
Arguello,Moore,Tyson spring too mind but i think Louis is the best finisher of all time without a doubt

Ziggy Stardust
05-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Julio Cesar Chavez

Getting help from Don King paid-off refs doesn't count as "finishing" :puke:

Poet

BigStereotype
05-14-2011, 01:57 PM
Obviously Louis and Robinson...

Also, Juan Manuel Marquez deserves a shout (and if not me, who's gonna do it haha). He's not a monster puncher, but if he hurts you, you're done. Look at the Katsidis, Diaz and Casamayor fights in particular. It looked like Katsidis had a magnet in his face in the ninth round, Diaz really never got a chance to recover from that tremendous overhand-triple-left-uppercut combination (seriously, what the ****, Marquez? That combination was incredible) and Casamayor was done as soon as he wobbled.

I'd disagree with the Dempsey call. Looking at the Willard and the Long Count fights in particular. He should have blasted Willard out of there in the second round with the way he was beating him up, instead, Willard quit on his stool. And Tunney was hurt pretty bad and Dempsey let him off the hook. Great and extremely violent fighter, but not one of the guys I think of when I think of a closer.

JAB5239
05-14-2011, 03:35 PM
Obviously Louis and Robinson...

Also, Juan Manuel Marquez deserves a shout (and if not me, who's gonna do it haha). He's not a monster puncher, but if he hurts you, you're done. Look at the Katsidis, Diaz and Casamayor fights in particular. It looked like Katsidis had a magnet in his face in the ninth round, Diaz really never got a chance to recover from that tremendous overhand-triple-left-uppercut combination (seriously, what the ****, Marquez? That combination was incredible) and Casamayor was done as soon as he wobbled.

I'd disagree with the Dempsey call. Looking at the Willard and the Long Count fights in particular. He should have blasted Willard out of there in the second round with the way he was beating him up, instead, Willard quit on his stool. And Tunney was hurt pretty bad and Dempsey let him off the hook. Great and extremely violent fighter, but not one of the guys I think of when I think of a closer.

I think you have to look at his entire record, not just this one fight. Lets not forget he was fighting a guy 60lbs heavier than himself. Thiere are things about Dempseys career I question, but his ferocity and finishing skills are not one of them.

$Natedatpkid$
05-14-2011, 04:42 PM
Some good choices mentioned so far.

No love for George Foreman though? When Lyle was hurt he jumped all up in that ass it was just Lyle has just as much power to hurt him. But more then likely if Foreman didn't put you out with one punch, the next one or two would.

IronDanHamza
05-14-2011, 05:11 PM
Ruben Olivares?

New England
05-14-2011, 11:16 PM
Ruben Olivares?



add him to the list!
if i were building a finisher i'd lean towards the hook as the shot to seal the deal

and a bantamweight at that

Ziggy Stardust
05-14-2011, 11:23 PM
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The Surgeon
05-15-2011, 07:24 AM
It wasnt often Iron Mike let his man off the hook when he had him hurt, that guy had real killer instinct!

Joe Louis seemed as if he always knew Exactly what shots to let go to get the job done and get it done in a hurry

Aaron Pryor was an animal at the best of times but once he smelt blood forget about it

Trinidad and Robinson along with SRL had great finishers instict and skill too

qari
05-15-2011, 07:40 AM
Prince Naseem?

The Surgeon
05-15-2011, 08:14 AM
Prince Naseem?

Lol no shock that the only Naz shout so far has come from You qari! He knew how to finish tho for sure, stayed calm and smashed precise shots up through his mans gaurd to take him out

GoogleMe
05-15-2011, 11:11 AM
Why haven't anyone said: Julian Jackson????

New England
05-15-2011, 01:24 PM
Why haven't anyone said: Julian Jackson????




lol usually the threshold between boxing regularly and completely unconscious was just too short for him to be a "Finisher" lol


when he hurt a guy he was usually down and snoring without any follow up haha

there was no "he's ready to go"
there was just a "damn, i hope he's ok"


my head hurts just watching that guy fight

Ziggy Stardust
05-15-2011, 01:34 PM
lol usually the threshold between boxing regularly and completely unconscious was just too short for him to be a "Finisher" lol


when he hurt a guy he was usually down and snoring without any follow up haha

there was no "he's ready to go"
there was just a "damn, i hope he's ok"


my head hurts just watching that guy fight

Out before they hit the canvas, don't bother counting :boxing:

Poet

BigStereotype
05-15-2011, 01:57 PM
lol usually the threshold between boxing regularly and completely unconscious was just too short for him to be a "Finisher" lol


when he hurt a guy he was usually down and snoring without any follow up haha

there was no "he's ready to go"
there was just a "damn, i hope he's ok"


my head hurts just watching that guy fight

:lol1: Perfectly put

The Surgeon
05-15-2011, 02:45 PM
lol usually the threshold between boxing regularly and completely unconscious was just too short for him to be a "Finisher" lol


when he hurt a guy he was usually down and snoring without any follow up haha

there was no "he's ready to go"
there was just a "damn, i hope he's ok"


my head hurts just watching that guy fight

Lol Exactamundo :boxing: BOOM Game Over

RubenSonny
05-15-2011, 03:46 PM
Azumah Nelson.

The Surgeon
05-15-2011, 03:54 PM
I was never a fan of the way Oscar just flurried non stop but for the most part it worked and convinced the refs to jump in, almost cost him vs Quartey tho

Tony Ayala Jnr

IMDAZED
05-15-2011, 11:30 PM
Azumah Nelson.

Azumah was a great finisher. I'd add Ray Leonard and Felix Trinidad to that list.

RubenSonny
05-16-2011, 08:36 AM
Azumah was a great finisher. I'd add Ray Leonard and Felix Trinidad to that list.

Fenech II was a sick finish, as was the Gomez fight, I won't even mention the Cowdell fight since it never really started :lol1:

JAB5239
05-16-2011, 09:03 AM
"Terrible" Terry McGovern anyone? Maybe the best p4p finisher of them all during his meteoric but short prime.

IMDAZED
05-16-2011, 10:45 AM
Fenech II was a sick finish, as was the Gomez fight, I even mention the Cowdell fight since it never really started :lol1:

:lol1:. Poor Pat. I wonder if he ever found his nose. Fenech II was just a masterpiece. Gomez finish was sick as well.

joseph5620
05-16-2011, 01:51 PM
Fenech II was a sick finish, as was the Gomez fight, I won't even mention the Cowdell fight since it never really started :lol1:







That might be my favorite Nelson fight.

RubenSonny
05-16-2011, 02:41 PM
That might be my favorite Nelson fight.

Gomez should've sued the matrix for copying his move :lol1:

Pastrano
05-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Gatti was a pretty good finisher, bless him. :notworthy

Amazinger
05-16-2011, 03:12 PM
Aaron Pryor is one of the best finisher I think.

Scott9945
05-16-2011, 04:13 PM
"Terrible" Terry McGovern anyone? Maybe the best p4p finisher of them all during his meteoric but short prime.

If we're going that far back I would think Stanley Ketchell deserves a mention as well.

joseph5620
05-16-2011, 04:20 PM
Gomez should've sued the matrix for copying his move :lol1:






LOL yeah that looked crazy.

JAB5239
05-16-2011, 04:31 PM
If we're going that far back I would think Stanley Ketchell deserves a mention as well.

While I have no doubt Ketchel was a great finisher, it would seem he was more a 1 punch ko guy who rarely had to finish an opponent after landing that 1 flush shot.

$Natedatpkid$
05-16-2011, 05:37 PM
What do you guys think about Juan Manuel Lopez? I think it's pretty impressive to have 27 KO's in only 30 fights at the lower weights. He impressed the **** outta me with the Ponce De Leon fight. We were camping outside with my friends and my sisters friends one night, she had a laptop out there and I remember EVERYBODY hyping that fight up, so I snatched that ***** told my boys there was gonna be a war, then Lopez dropped him. You know theirs a lotta good fights were a great fighter gets dropped in the first round so we expected a fight of the year type *****, then he dropped him again! Started to think it'd be some JMM-Pac 1 *****! hahah then he dropped him again! hahah fight over!

glovelover
05-21-2011, 02:51 PM
Tyson was the most ruthless and efficient finisher I've seen.

The topic reminds me of a piece in TIME magazine some years ago. It referred to the Jimmy Doyle inquest after he died in a fight with Sugar Ray Robinson. SRR was asked if he knew that Doyle was in trouble. He replied: "Sir, it's my business to get people in trouble."