I'll try to keep my post short:



Peter PROS:

- Boy's got POWER!
- Showed very decent chin.

CONS:

- He is still way too green!
- No Skills! Wide swinger
- No head, feet, or body movement
- His Stamina didn't impress me at all. Each time he exploded, he would get tired very quickly.
- Didn't prepare well

TO WIN:
- He should have just kept going from the first round.. Don't stand there in the middle eating jabs like a dummy! He knew how easily Wlad gets hurt and he was very, very limited to attack


WladPROS: - Still very skilled

- Great Jab
- Good Power
- Great Speed
- Excellent Accuracy
- Listens to corner well and did a great job in preparation

CONS:
- Not sure about his CHIN, but he does not know how to hold a punch and does not react well to being hit.
- Yet I would still say that his Chin is very weak!
- Even though he landed a lot and went to distance, he still got a mediocre stamina and showed a lot of fatigue. Most of it came from burning way to much energy trying to hold Peter down and of being stressed..

TO WIN:
- He did exactly as I thought!


My Take,

Wlad will fight very cautiously and saving his energy to get a very comfortable UD over Peter
Wlad / Peter Fight Predictions Poll (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47206)

Out of 74 Voted to-date Only 3 predicted the fight correctly!
Damn I'm good Another great prediction!

P.S.
I'm attaching an image as of now before some smart asses start voting for the right decision

This is what I saw in tonight's fight. Wladamir showed he has a world class trainer. Wlad is still a ***** for falling to the canvas the way he did to avoid getting hit. Peter really need's to rethink who handles him. Peter's corner was c- class at best, and he was far from being prepared for this fight. Klitschko had him figured out all the way, even though he's still a *****. IMO Peter should ditch his trainer and look elseware for assistance in his fight preperation.

Wlad is still a ***** for falling to the canvas the way he did to avoid getting hit.

It was more like falling to the canvas from ILLEGAL punches thrown out of desperation from a lesser fighter.

I forgot what I voted for, it wasn't a public vote right. I definetly took Wlad by KO in that case. I'm $425 and 20mil points richers :D

Slavic Pride!

This is what I saw in tonight's fight. Wladamir showed he has a world class trainer. Wlad is still a ***** for falling to the canvas the way he did to avoid getting hit. Peter really need's to rethink who handles him. Peter's corner was c- class at best, and he was far from being prepared for this fight. Klitschko had him figured out all the way, even though he's still a *****. IMO Peter should ditch his trainer and look elseware for assistance in his fight preperation.
True....

Although I understand you're upset at Wlad for winning, still, why call him a *****? Because he tried to avoid being KD?

It was more like falling to the canvas from ILLEGAL punches thrown out of desperation from a lesser fighter.
Randy wasnt calling any fouls in this fight. :eek:

True....

Although I understand you're upset at Wlad for winning, still, why call him a *****? Because he tried to avoid being KD?
More like KO.

IMO - Peter's strategy was controlled by Wlad. There was nothing else he could do except try harder to get inside. Wlad controlled the fight.

2nd, Wlad took a couple big shots by peter right on the jaw and took them well. He may still have some question marks, but I feel a lot better about his ability to take a punch than I did before tonight.

IMO - Peter's strategy was controlled by Wlad. There was nothing else he could do except try harder to get inside. Wlad controlled the fight.

2nd, Wlad took a couple big shots by peter right on the jaw and took them well. He may still have some question marks, but I feel a lot better about his ability to take a punch than I did before tonight.
I'm a HUGE fan, Wlad is my favorite boxer, but I'm still realistic

Come one, every time Wlad got hit, it was like he was replaced by someone else and tried to survive... and as soon as he got passed it, it was all him, in control, again

Randy wasnt calling any fouls in this fight. :eek:

You have to admit. Those punches were so blatantly illegal it was not funny. two out of three came after the break from the ref. I mean come on.

Its bad enough Peter hits like a damn tank, but to throw everything into an ILLEGAL punch.

This just in:

Like I said earlier. Wlad has heart.

Like I said earlier. Wlad has heart.
Forgot to add that! :-)


Peter could have showed more heart though!
He should have attacked Wlad swinging wildly.. one of them would have landed!

I'm a HUGE fan, Wlad is my favorite boxer, but I'm still realistic

Come one, every time Wlad got hit, it was like he was replaced by someone else and tried to survive... and as soon as he got passed it, it was all him, in control, again

I SAID he took a COUPLE shots right on the jaw and took them very well, not all shots! He took some shots that would KO some people. Watch it again

Peter could have showed more heart though!


I was thoroughly impressed with Peter's chin.

In the 3rd when Wlad landed that 1-2....Peter waived him on.
Tough guy, huge punch, great chin. Cheap as hell though. too many rabbit punches.

I was glad that Vlad won but there are some big problems:

1. After the first to rounds were he had a jabbin clinic going he stopped jabbing. He started to hold his hand out and just throw power punches. Anytime he stopped throwing he got caught...

2. When he got nailed, instead of grabbing or jabbing and trying to keep his distance he decided to jump in and try to land a hook. WTF? You just got rocked, get that jab pumping!!

3. Just ****ing Pump that jab all day long. He had long intervals where he was just waiting and Peter was getting closer. Pump that ****ing jab.

4. The time that he went down I noticed he wasnt that hurt but more just to excited or something to know what to do.

Edit: 5. Stewart was tellin him to counter after Peter threw his shot and was off balance, that never really happened... Well I think with more experience he will be able to do it.


Anyway congrats to Vlad on winning against one of the most dangerous guys in the division. A whoop for Manny Stewart who made this win happen. I seriously think if it had been any other trainer he would have been knocked out!

I gotta admit, I said Wlad by ko maybe as early as round 5 or 6, and I was wrong. Of course what took place was much better. Wlad took a few shots and didn't wilt. He was also able to regain composure after all the rabbit punches and continue to move and score. He moved and fought until the end of the fight and wobbled Peter badly in the last round, showing that he does have at least decent conditioning. I do think that Wlad could have KO'd Peter if it weren't for being so reluctant to throw punches and put himself in harm's way. One thing I was right about though, is that once Peter got tagged a few times, he lost his confidence and fought like post-Douglas Tyson. Overall, I'm very satisfied with Wlad's performance.

A good confidence builder for Wlad, and a potentially good experience for Peter.

They both took good and bad away from the fight.

Wlad will do well agaisnt Byrd if he wins, I almost think TOS would be a tougher fight.

Peter will need to work on stamina, and putting sharper punches together. With that chin and power at 24, he has time to grow.

He would get schooled by Byrd or Toney at this point.

Apparently no one has explained the rules of boxing to Peter. He needs to learn that it's not illeagal to try to duck or dodge a punch. Dummy just stood there.

I really wasn't impressed with either fighter. No body attack from either. A jab and right from Wlad and wild and looping shots from Peter. There are other punches that are legal, guys.

I hope Wlad's success tonite doesn't turn him into the next hug and mug Ruiz type fighter.

All True Bozo,
All true!

I would also add that Vitali would have Knocked him out
And I think he would have given major trouble for Brewster, who's another great brawler.
Both Great chins, both could punch! Great fight

All True Bozo,
All true!

I would also add that Vitali would have Knocked him out
And I think he would have given major trouble for Brewster, who's another great brawler.
Both Great chins, both could punch! Great fight


I disagree, I think Peter's style would have been more successful on Vitali, who doesn't jab and use range like Wlad. Vitali may have stood up to the punches, but that's by no means a certin win for Vitlali just because Wlad won.

I would also add that Vitali would have Knocked him out


That's pushing it chief. I am not sure.

Honestly....Vitali is akward. He is nowhere near as technical, and might have a hard time getting out of the way of those punches.

Vitali has nowhere near the boxing ability his little brother has.

I SAID he took a COUPLE shots right on the jaw and took them very well, not all shots! He took some shots that would KO some people. Watch it again


You are a sad sad person.

Apparently no one has explained the rules of boxing to Peter. He needs to learn that it's not illeagal to try to duck or dodge a punch. Dummy just stood there.

I really wasn't impressed with either fighter. No body attack from either. A jab and right from Wlad and wild and looping shots from Peter. There are other punches that are legal, guys.

I hope Wlad's success tonite doesn't turn him into the next hug and mug Ruiz type fighter.

I agree, but who's he gonna fight with a punch like Peter's?

IMO that's the only reason he did that ****, surely something Manny came up with, since he never taught hearns how to hang on lol.

He still had a better style than Ruiz though lol

That's pushing it chief. I am not sure.

Honestly....Vitali is akward. He is nowhere near as technical, and might have a hard time getting out of the way of those punches.

Vitali has nowhere near the boxing ability his little brother has.
a g r e e d !

Peter would ask some very different questions of Vitali. Peter is too green and doesn't have the lungs to beat Vitali, but I think it would be a more exciting fight. Vitali doesn't establish the range as well as Wlad did, and that was Wlad's key to victory.

Vitali kept a pretty good range against Sanders and Williamson..

BTW,
Wlad was always an offencive boxer, but Stewart did a great job working that defence as well.

Defence and counter punching still needs a big improvement, but he did good tonight!

Vitaly kept pretty good range against Sanders and Williamson..


You're not reading me at all.

Wlad establishes range with his jab and fights technically. That did a lot to keep Peter at bay.

Vitlai fights like a heavyweight version of Jirov. He stands straight up and throws clubbing arm lenght shots.

I think the styles in that fight make for a much different match up.

This is what I saw in tonight's fight. Wladamir showed he has a world class trainer. Wlad is still a ***** for falling to the canvas the way he did to avoid getting hit. Peter really need's to rethink who handles him. Peter's corner was c- class at best, and he was far from being prepared for this fight. Klitschko had him figured out all the way, even though he's still a *****. IMO Peter should ditch his trainer and look elseware for assistance in his fight preperation.
roflmao. yea,,,hes a ***** that had peter doing the chicken dance in the last round. oh,,I love these klit haters. so how you guys feeling now?? lmao

A good confidence builder for Wlad, and a potentially good experience for Peter.

They both took good and bad away from the fight.

Wlad will do well agaisnt Byrd if he wins, I almost think TOS would be a tougher fight.

Peter will need to work on stamina, and putting sharper punches together. With that chin and power at 24, he has time to grow.

He would get schooled by Byrd or Toney at this point.
wow,,,maybe youre not so bad afterall

wow,,,maybe youre not so bad afterall


You, like others, only choose to take issue with and remember what hurts your feelings.

I don't hate either Klitschko, I hate their fanatical and vendictive core fan base.

wow,,,maybe youre not so bad afterall

Pfffft. Just because people have different opinions from you shouldn't make them "bad" anyways.

Peter is tough, can take a punch for sure.
I just hope that in the future, his number isn't had by all his opponents due to Wlad's showing of a way to win over him.

Big props to Wlad, who was able to keep fighting after being hit in the back of the head like 8 times. It's a lot easier to KO someone by hitting them in the back of the head than it is by hitting them in the front of the head.

Also of note, I think that Wlad's imbalance might be due to the fact that much of his weight is in his upper half, his legs are skinny, not much weight there, and since he is so tall, his center of gravity is lessened.

I'm just glad he conquered his demons tonight.

the punches behind the head were blatant.

i know its bad business to disqualify a fighter, but there are rules for a reason.

peter wouldn't fare as well against vitali as he did with wlad. vitali's one mean mutha......

and much more unpredictable.

[QUOTE=j]peter wouldn't fare as well against vitali as he did with wlad. QUOTE]

Now that is what i call an understatement!!

Randy wasnt calling any fouls in this fight. :eek:

Yup, I was pretty amazed that Neumann didn't deduct a point or two from Peter. I wonder how he would have done when he was in his prime against either Wlad or Sam. I just read that he beat Jimmy Young and Chuck Wepner (although lose the next two of his fights with Chuck). Has anyone seen any of his fights, or know about his style? Thanks.

anyone can upload the fight?

I'll try to keep my post short:



Peter PROS:

- Boy's got POWER!
- Showed very decent chin.

CONS:

- He is still way too green!
- No Skills! Wide swinger
- No head, feet, or body movement
- His Stamina didn't impress me at all. Each time he exploded, he would get tired very quickly.
- Didn't prepare well

TO WIN:
- He should have just kept going from the first round.. Don't stand there in the middle eating jabs like a dummy! He knew how easily Wlad gets hurt and he was very, very limited to attack


Wlad[indent]PROS: - Still very skilled

- Great Jab
- Good Power
- Great Speed
- Excellent Accuracy
- Listens to corner well and did a great job in preparation

CONS:
- Not sure about his CHIN, but he does not know how to hold a punch and does not react well to being hit.
- Yet I would still say that his Chin is very weak!
- Even though he landed a lot and went to distance, he still got a mediocre stamina and showed a lot of fatigue. Most of it came from burning way to much energy trying to hold Peter down and of being stressed..

TO WIN:
- He did exactly as I thought!
Wlad / Peter Fight Predictions Poll (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47206)

Out of 74 Voted to-date Only 3 predicted the fight correctly!
Damn I'm good Another great prediction!

P.S.
I'm attaching an image as of now before some smart asses start voting for the right decision
i agree with u......

Great prediction Cooler.....I was one of the 28 who took Peter by KO and still thought is going to happen through 11.5 rounds but you all may shun me now.......I still don't like Wlad but have more respect for him he did what he had to do.....He should give Manny a huge bonus he would have never made through it if not for Manny.