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Pno
12-19-2004, 08:13 PM
i'm sure it sounds like a pipe dream maybe even far fetched..

what if there was a boycott or petition against any Don King PPV HW fights UNLESS / UNTIL there is Unification involved..

someone's gotta put the heat on DK if we want this HW division to revive...

:confused:

neils7147933
12-19-2004, 08:15 PM
yeah right

phallus
12-19-2004, 08:19 PM
i think we'll be stuck with that ****ing vulture Don King until he dies, even then, i have nightmares about that opportunistic piece of **** rising from the grave if a hundred dollar bill is waved over his coffin

jack_the_rippuh
12-19-2004, 08:30 PM
I still don't think that if there is a unified champ it will help the division as much as they say it would.

I think they need to give the big names title shots and hope that they win..
Namely, Tyson!!!!!!

Pno
12-19-2004, 08:30 PM
I hope he lives long and prospers , etc etc etc.. no harm..
but I do hope he's eventually erradicated from boxing..

Pno
12-19-2004, 08:32 PM
I still don't think that if there is a unified champ it will help the division as much as they say it would.

I think they need to give the big names title shots and hope that they win..
Namely, Tyson!!!!!!


well you see....
the way I see it.. if there is a unified champ... then all the up and coming HW would be all focusing on getting their chance at a crack at THAT Champ, THOSE Titles.. then maybe more prospects will surface and more talent will be molded..

:confused:

just a thought..

neils7147933
12-19-2004, 08:35 PM
well you see....
the way I see it.. if there is a unified champ... then all the up and coming HW would be all focusing on getting their chance at a crack at THAT Champ, THOSE Titles.. then maybe more prospects will surface and more talent will be molded..

:confused:

just a thought..

Name one division outside of middleweight (I give you that, even with Masoe carrying around the WBA belt) that is unified.

Why do the heavies need unified when none of the others are?

Pno
12-19-2004, 08:48 PM
no division NEEDS to be unified..

i don't recall any other division being widely known to be "hurting"

if HW is not unified and other divisions are also not unified, but something is working for them NOT to be knows as "hurting", then maybe something different needs to be done to shock HW back to life...
??

Neuraxis
12-19-2004, 08:50 PM
I'll be boycotting the next DKP HW PPV if Oquendo is fighting for a title.

jack_the_rippuh
12-19-2004, 08:50 PM
Are you sure you really want unification?
Look what unification in the Middleweight division did..

Pno
12-19-2004, 08:53 PM
I'm just making suggestions, for whatever good that could do :P

boxing is often viewed chronologically in eras of reigning HW champs... the sooner we can get one of those ourselves, the sooner we'll be concluding that era and starting something that COULD be exciting and meaningful...

:D

neils7147933
12-19-2004, 08:54 PM
no division NEEDS to be unified..

i don't recall any other division being widely known to be "hurting"

if HW is not unified and other divisions are also not unified, but something is working for them NOT to be knows as "hurting", then maybe something different needs to be done to shock HW back to life...
??

The interest in the heavyweight division makes its weaknesses exposed - 105 thru 118, 168, and light heavy don't look to me in any better shape than the heavies...

Pno
12-19-2004, 08:57 PM
The interest in the heavyweight division makes its weaknesses exposed - 105 thru 118, 168, and light heavy don't look to me in any better shape than the heavies...


yeah :) it seems like it always promised some chance of excitement... def. more world reknown up to this point.

I do know that unless there's some real good solid competition, VK will never be given true credit for being a good champ... but that sorta goes without saying... :) he needs to prove more anyways for his sake..

Nautilus
12-19-2004, 10:26 PM
i'm sure it sounds like a pipe dream maybe even far fetched..

what if there was a boycott or petition against any Don King PPV HW fights UNLESS / UNTIL there is Unification involved..

someone's gotta put the heat on DK if we want this HW division to revive...

:confused:

That would be cool.

julDilla
12-19-2004, 10:28 PM
how old is don king? where not to far from not seeing his crooked moves on boxing

kadyo
12-19-2004, 10:37 PM
Have to admit that no matter what happens(unification or not.) or whoever becomes the unified champ, heavyweight boxing is simply boring. The best boxing fights are now happening in the featherweight, superfeatherweight, light welter and middleweight. Hate to admit it but HW(the defining division of a boxing era) right now is a garbage.

grayfist
12-20-2004, 10:27 AM
The early 1995 P4P list of both THE RING and its sister publication, KO, had no heavyweight in the top 9; Michael Moorer came in tenth in what appears to be an afterthought. That came after Oliver McCall (remember him, the "Atomic Bull"?) took the title in an upset vs. Lennox.

The top ten heavyweights then were (according to The Ring and KO):
1. Moorer 2. McCall 3. Bowe 4. Lewis 5. Herbie Hide 6. Larry Holmes 7. Frank Bruno 8. Lionel Butler 9. Larry Donald and 10, Jorge Luis Gonzalez

The P4P list went:
1. James Toney- SMiddle
2. Pernell Whitaker- Welter
3. Orlando Canizalez- Bantam
4. Chiquita Gonzalez- Jr. Fly
5. Michael Carbajal- Jr. Fly
6. Frankie Randall- Jr. Welter
7. Ricardo Lopez- Straw
8. Gerald McClellan- Middle
9. Miguel Angel Gonzalez- Light
10 Michael Moorer- HEAVY

Roy JOnes and Felix Trinidad were Honorable Mention.

By July of 1995, Bruce Seldon was WBA's Heavyweight King and Frank Bruno his WBC equivalent by September after dethroning McCall. IBF did not have a Heavyweight champ; Francois Botha and Exel Schultz were its top two contenders (in that order).

In its October issue, KO had Pernell (at welter) on top of its P4P list, followed by Roy ( Super Mid) on 2nd.

The rest:
3. Ricardo Lopez - Straw
4. Frankie Randall
5. Tito
6. Oscar
7. Gabriel Ruelas
8. JC Superstar
9. Yuri Arbachakov (fly)
10. Riddick Bowe

Comparing that year to this as far as heavyweights go... :o :( :rolleyes:

Truth
12-20-2004, 10:34 AM
I still don't think that if there is a unified champ it will help the division as much as they say it would.

I think they need to give the big names title shots and hope that they win..
Namely, Tyson!!!!!!

I agree, but I also want to see what James Toney can do when he gets back.

The1God
12-20-2004, 10:36 AM
I don't think enough people would be convinced to boycott King. A large snctioning body or RIng magazine needs to step up and make it pulic.

If king makes another garbage PPV, HBO and Showtime are the ones that need to step up and point out how useless it is. Roycott never really worked either. Though I may agree with you, it is wishfull thinking. Unfortunately, I am a sucker for any fight, PPV or not.