View Full Version : Pacman VS. Morales II - who wins???


Parodius
09-22-2005, 12:54 PM
I can't wait for this fight. I hope it was sooner. Who you think is gonna win??? :cool:

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 12:58 PM
Pacman will win tis rematch by KO!


Why? Becuz Pac is fightin Raheem leftovers. LOL!

Parodius
09-22-2005, 01:00 PM
Yea I also pick pac by late KO. I'm a big Morales fan, but I don't see him winning the rematch.

cvt
09-22-2005, 01:01 PM
manny seems to have a more polished right hook...which is good. but he's still the 1-2-1-2 fighter that fought morales. i'd love for pac to win but i see erik taking pac to school again...7-5 UD Morales.

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 01:05 PM
Manny plays right into Morales' hands. Morales by competitive but clear UD again.

Anybody who wants to lose all of their fake internet points can bet with me.

Parodius
09-22-2005, 01:10 PM
Manny plays right into Morales' hands. Morales by competitive but clear UD again.

Anybody who wants to lose all of their fake internet points can bet with me.I will bet with you. Aren't you like the richest guy on this site. I saw you giving billions away.

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 01:12 PM
No way in hell Morales beats Pac in rematch. Pac will wearin Cleto Reyes, Pac is now settled at 130lbs, Pac (hopefully) won't have a cut on his right eye. Pac by KO late rounds!

xzworks
09-22-2005, 01:17 PM
in the poll there is no way for morales fan to vote..heheheeh

i hope pacman will ko morales but i think is a UD for pacman.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 01:24 PM
Pac's style is taylor-made for El Terrible

if they fight 50 times, Erik will have 50 more victories

it's just like the Tyson-Holyfield Theory, some boxing styles will always dominate their opponent's style, it's not about "who's better" or "who's tougher", STYLES make fights, taller volume/counter-punchers will dominate shorter brawlers 99.999% of the time

xzworks
09-22-2005, 01:34 PM
i agree..but pacman have a chance on decision.it was close.

Floydmayweather
09-22-2005, 01:49 PM
Pac's style is taylor-made for El Terrible

if they fight 50 times, Erik will have 50 more victories

it's just like the Tyson-Holyfield Theory, some boxing styles will always dominate their opponent's style, it's not about "who's better" or "who's tougher", STYLES make fights, taller volume/counter-punchers will dominate shorter brawlers 99.999% of the time

I have to disagree. The first fight was pretty tight on the scorecards and Pac really got of track, after the cut. In round 1 i do believe Morales was hurt from a body shot but Pac got drawn into a war. If he goes to the body often i think he wins. There were also to much distractions before the fight. Oringinally i did not believe this but after hearing the bull**** that went down before the fight i do. He slept on the floor, was given shots the night before the fight, and regardless of what physcical advantage his gloves would have it threw him off. (at least comfort wise) Now u have a slipping Morales who is having obvious trouble even making 135, at 130 Pac gets his revenge. ;)

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 01:58 PM
Pac's style is taylor-made for El Terrible

if they fight 50 times, Erik will have 50 more victories

it's just like the Tyson-Holyfield Theory, some boxing styles will always dominate their opponent's style, it's not about "who's better" or "who's tougher", STYLES make fights, taller volume/counter-punchers will dominate shorter brawlers 99.999% of the time

are you serious?????!!!!!

Goddamn! Pac lost 115-113 and held his shyt and managed to hurt Morales and you say 99.9% 50/50 times Morales beats Pac? That's idiotic!

Yes styles do make fights, but to put a paragraph ta way you did and contain werds like that is stoopidity!

I would understand if YOU SAID tis afta ta rematch and Pac gets whompered! BUT NO. Pac hasn't lost TWICE! You can say tis gainst Mosely gainst Vernon. Mosleye gainst Winky. Barrera gainst Morales. All who lost 2 times. Cmon man! BE SERIOUS!

50/50 ma ass! Cant say shyt like that afta 1 FIGHT and a CLOSE ONE AT THAT! I would understand if you said tis on Tito vs Wright. **** outa here!

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 01:58 PM
I have to disagree. The first fight was pretty tight on the scorecards and Pac really got of track, after the cut. In round 1 i do believe Morales was hurt from a body shot but Pac got drawn into a war. If he goes to the body often i think he wins. There were also to much distractions before the fight. Oringinally i did not believe this but after hearing the bull**** that went down before the fight i do. He slept on the floor, was given shots the night before the fight, and regardless of what physcical advantage his gloves would have it threw him off. (at least comfort wise) Now u have a slipping Morales who is having obvious trouble even making 135, at 130 Pac gets his revenge. ;)


A------****IN------MEN.

Pak men
09-22-2005, 02:08 PM
Pacman will win tis rematch by KO!


Why? Becuz Pac is fightin Raheem leftovers. LOL!
lol! Nice jibe, anyway, PAC promised to train like he has never trained before. He is skipping x-mas and new year away from his family. And he has promised a KO.

Before I forget, PAC promised to ram Morales from the first second until Morales isn't down.

I really fear for Morales. PAC is quite angry. lol!

Sugardaddy
09-22-2005, 02:08 PM
the rematch is going to go the same way as the first fight.

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 02:13 PM
lol! Nice jibe, anyway, PAC promised to train like he has never trained before. He is skipping x-mas and new year away from his family. And he has promised a KO.

Before I forget, PAC promised to ram Morales from the first second until Morales isn't down.

I really fear for Morales. PAC is quite angry. lol!


yup I read about that.

Pacman will be super focused tis time around! He even promised to stop his bad habits of gambling and drinkin booze!

Morales will get KO in ta rematch I have no doubts about it!

Parodius
09-22-2005, 02:20 PM
in the poll there is no way for morales fan to vote..heheheeh

i hope pacman will ko morales but i think is a UD for pacman. God damn it, I made a mistake. Sorry!

Pak men
09-22-2005, 02:21 PM
yup I read about that.

Pacman will be super focused tis time around! He even promised to stop his bad habits of gambling and drinkin booze!

Morales will get KO in ta rematch I have no doubts about it!
I just sure hope PAC doesn't beat Morales too much. I like Morales. I just hope he takes it kinda gentle on Morales. Just save the killers for Barrera's face.

I hope in the rematch with MAB, PAC rearrange MAB's face so MAB would look like Michael Jackson. lol!

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 02:31 PM
It's obvious that you're simply speaking from the heart, and I'm basing my ideas on objective results and boxing history....I don't hate ya for being a PacMan fan, he's very entertaining, but he's also a B-fighter who's in over his head vs. guys like Morales who are taller & stronger....Pac will always have speed and lighting power, but those factors don't count vs. a guy with El Terrible's body structure & ability....

hey, if Pac proves me wrong, more power to him & his loyal fans, but until he does, I'M CORRECT, not you

Pac has already gotten stomped by El Terrible, NOT the other way around

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 02:33 PM
are you serious?????!!!!!

Goddamn! Pac lost 115-113 and held his shyt and managed to hurt Morales and you say 99.9% 50/50 times Morales beats Pac? That's idiotic!

Yes styles do make fights, but to put a paragraph ta way you did and contain werds like that is stoopidity!

I would understand if YOU SAID tis afta ta rematch and Pac gets whompered! BUT NO. Pac hasn't lost TWICE! You can say tis gainst Mosely gainst Vernon. Mosleye gainst Winky. Barrera gainst Morales. All who lost 2 times. Cmon man! BE SERIOUS!

50/50 ma ass! Cant say shyt like that afta 1 FIGHT and a CLOSE ONE AT THAT! I would understand if you said tis on Tito vs Wright. **** outa here!
It's obvious that you're simply speaking from the heart, and I'm basing my ideas on objective results and boxing history....I don't hate ya for being a PacMan fan, he's very entertaining, but he's also a B-fighter who's in over his head vs. guys like Morales who are taller & stronger....Pac will always have speed and lighting power, but those factors don't count vs. a guy with El Terrible's body structure & ability....

hey, if Pac proves me wrong, more power to him & his loyal fans, but until he does, I'M CORRECT, not you

Pac has already gotten stomped by El Terrible, NOT the other way around

Pak men
09-22-2005, 02:36 PM
It's obvious that you're simply speaking from the heart, and I'm basing my ideas on objective results and boxing history....I don't hate ya for being a PacMan fan, he's very entertaining, but he's also a B-fighter who's in over his head vs. guys like Morales who are taller & stronger....Pac will always have speed and lighting power, but those factors don't count vs. a guy with El Terrible's body structure & ability....

hey, if Pac proves me wrong, more power to him & his loyal fans, but until he does, I'M CORRECT, not you

Pac has already gotten stomped by El Terrible, NOT the other way around
Stomped? Are you a dummy? After the controversy and manipulations he did, after the cut, after the boxing gloves. If it was the reverse, PAC would tear off Morales' head.

You're not using your head pal. lol!

amaru
09-22-2005, 02:45 PM
this is gonna be a tough fight for both fighters, in my opinion morales has more to lose in this fight so he will want to fight the fight of his life, if he has 2 defeats in a row then people will start questioning whether or not he still is a top fighter, both fighters will be hungry for the win, morales for the fact that he has to get a win after his loss and for pacquiao he needs to prove that all the distractions he had (the cut, wearing winning gloves, contract termination from his promoter) was the reason why he lost the fight, this fight for me isnt as easy to pick, if i had to pick one i would slightly lean in favour of pacquiao this time round but only just, i thik it will go to points too, morales has too much heart and pride to get KO'd although that is possible because of pacmans power. however it wouldnt surprise me if morales wins again, whoever loses on january 21st, then there gonna have a long way to go back up the boxing ladder.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 02:46 PM
Stomped? Are you a dummy? After the controversy and manipulations he did, after the cut, after the boxing gloves. If it was the reverse, PAC would tear off Morales' head.

You're not using your head pal. lol!
woulda coulda shoulda

blame the gloves, weather, promoter, cut, EXCUSES EXCUSES

Remember, many of these things could also be said about Barrera when he fought Pac, which is Pac's ONLY significant victory....what does that say about your boy? he's 1-1-1 vs. Mexico's elite, and the only win was marred with more controversy than his loss or draw

El Terrible by more convincing UD12 this time around, just watch kid

Parodius
09-22-2005, 02:52 PM
woulda coulda shoulda

blame the gloves, weather, promoter, cut, EXCUSES EXCUSES

Remember, many of these things could also be said about Barrera when he fought Pac, which is Pac's ONLY significant victory....what does that say about your boy? he's 1-1-1 vs. Mexico's elite, and the only win was marred with more controversy than his loss or draw

El Terrible by more convincing UD12 this time around, just watch kidYou see Pac destroyed Barrera. He was robbed against JMM, that fight was not a draw. He lost a close fight to Morales, with losing alot of blood. He's at least fought all 3 of them, you can't say that about any of them. JMM & Barrera has been ducking Pac. Morales wanted to go to lightweight, because he also might of not wanted the rematch. He's kinda forced to the rematch now, because Morales lost to Raheem & he needs to prove himself again.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 03:06 PM
You see Pac destroyed Barrera. He was robbed against JMM, that fight was not a draw. He lost a close fight to Morales, with losing alot of blood. He's at least fought all 3 of them, you can't say that about any of them. JMM & Barrera has been ducking Pac. Morales wanted to go to lightweight, because he also might of not wanted the rematch. He's kinda forced to the rematch now, because Morales lost to Raheem & he needs to prove himself again.
jsut 2 play Devil's Advocate:

Pac beat Barrera on the worst night of Barrera's life, and Barrera had MONY MORE distractions going into that fight, than Pac had goin into the Morales fight....

the only person who was robbed was Juan Manuel!!! The guy won 10 outta 12 rounds!!!! Pac has 1 good frame, the 1st, and got worse every preceeding round....

Pac has fought all 3, I give him credit for that, but remember that Pac's services ALWAYS come cheaper than the other 3, who are far bigger attractions here in the states (you could argue that JMM doesn't deserve big-$$$, but he's still the more experienced and recognized champion compared to Pac)

Pak men
09-22-2005, 03:09 PM
woulda coulda shoulda

blame the gloves, weather, promoter, cut, EXCUSES EXCUSES

Remember, many of these things could also be said about Barrera when he fought Pac, which is Pac's ONLY significant victory....what does that say about your boy? he's 1-1-1 vs. Mexico's elite, and the only win was marred with more controversy than his loss or draw

El Terrible by more convincing UD12 this time around, just watch kid
Your a dummy. But for purposes of your feeble mind understanding I'll explain. You listen kiddo.

MAB:
PAC rearranged his face. Literally. Black eyes on both eye, cuts on both eye, a swollen face which is already violet. As for PAC, a few bruises, nothing serious.

JMM:
We all know he got robbed of a decision. Even the judge admitted he made a mistake which caused PAC the win. Dummy don't you read the newspaper eh? The judge made an "accidental" mistake. Where were you when these news were coming out? Whanking? lol!

Morales:
I kinda like the guy, I just hope he doesn't get his face rearranged. Last time it was a cut and still Morales couldn't even slow PAC down. If that is not durability, then dummy what is durability to your ass eh?
This time around, no more glove-switching, no more Murad, no more booze.

I just hope Morales will be ok after this fight. PAC is quite angry. And you don't want PAC angry. lol!

As for excuses dummy, look at COWARD Barrera, PAC issued challenges to him and all MAB do is chicken his ass behind Oscar's balls.

When they were facing each other after the fight (MAB's face just got rearranged) MAB said he got defeated NO EXcUSES! Now the chicken **** says it was an off night when now they're not face to face. If that's not a coward, I don't know what to call that. lol!

Parodius
09-22-2005, 03:19 PM
jsut 2 play Devil's Advocate:

Pac beat Barrera on the worst night of Barrera's life, and Barrera had MONY MORE distractions going into that fight, than Pac had goin into the Morales fight....

the only person who was robbed was Juan Manuel!!! The guy won 10 outta 12 rounds!!!! Pac has 1 good frame, the 1st, and got worse every preceeding round....

Pac has fought all 3, I give him credit for that, but remember that Pac's services ALWAYS come cheaper than the other 3, who are far bigger attractions here in the states (you could argue that JMM doesn't deserve big-$$$, but he's still the more experienced and recognized champion compared to Pac)Pac won the ESPN poll & every other poll for the JMM fight. He was robbed, also hundreds of fighters lost a fight, because of the 3 KD rule. If that was 3 KO rule, Pac would've won by 1st round KO. I also made a poll for this fight on this site. I will listed now for you. Every poll has Pac winning that fight.

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 03:43 PM
The first fight was close on the scorecards, but it was a CLEAR win for Morales...no ifs ands or buts. Morales beat Pacquiaos ass like it hadn't been beaten in awhile. He also gave away the 12th round.

The rematch will be close again, but Morales will still win by decision or late TKO. Nothing is set in stone, and yes Pacquiao could outwork Morales en route to a close decision (Pacquiao ain't knockin out Morales so get that out of your heads).

If Pac should beat him, more power to him.

Pak men
09-22-2005, 03:49 PM
The first fight was close on the scorecards, but it was a CLEAR win for Morales...no ifs ands or buts. Morales beat Pacquiaos ass like it hadn't been beaten in awhile. He also gave away the 12th round.

The rematch will be close again, but Morales will still win by decision or late TKO. Nothing is set in stone, and yes Pacquiao could outwork Morales en route to a close decision (Pacquiao ain't knockin out Morales so get that out of your heads).

If Pac should beat him, more power to him.
Let's make a wager. Care to make a wager that PAC will KO Morales?

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 03:52 PM
Let's make a wager. Care to make a wager that PAC will KO Morales?


How many points do you have in your bank?

Dirt E Gomez
09-22-2005, 03:54 PM
Morales will score a UD or very late round T/KO. Morales' chin is simply too good and his technique is too good against a fighter like Pac. As gringo said, Pac could very well outwork Morales but it would be for naught.

Pak men
09-22-2005, 03:58 PM
How many points do you have in your bank?
I'll bet it plus I'll unsubscribe. What will be your bet?

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 04:03 PM
I'll bet it plus I'll unsubscribe. What will be your bet?


Ill give you 100 million points if Pacquiao knocks out Morales.

SAN D13GO VILLAN
09-22-2005, 04:05 PM
you should know by now that pac man aint going to k.o Morales if any he might (might) knock him down but theirs no way he k.os him Morales has a chin of steal.

Pak men
09-22-2005, 04:32 PM
Ill give you 100 million points if Pacquiao knocks out Morales.
Agreed. If PAC knocks out, I'll take the million. If PAC doesn't, even if he wins, I'll unsubscribe and never post.

You have my word.

Pak men
09-22-2005, 04:32 PM
you should know by now that pac man aint going to k.o Morales if any he might (might) knock him down but theirs no way he k.os him Morales has a chin of steal.
That's why I'm betting I'll quit the forum if he aint gonna knock Morales out. Let's just a;; see.

shemmue
09-22-2005, 04:41 PM
i will not count morales out in this fight just because of his fight with raheem raheem's style is a nightmare for morales..we allready know that he can beat pac and i think he will be competative in this fight with pac... i am rooting for pac but he needs not to fall in love with the straight left he should set it up for the late rnds. i honestly feel pac needs to win by ko don't know if he can outbox morales to a decision ....

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 05:08 PM
It's obvious that you're simply speaking from the heart, and I'm basing my ideas on objective results and boxing history....I don't hate ya for being a PacMan fan, he's very entertaining, but he's also a B-fighter who's in over his head vs. guys like Morales who are taller & stronger....Pac will always have speed and lighting power, but those factors don't count vs. a guy with El Terrible's body structure & ability....

hey, if Pac proves me wrong, more power to him & his loyal fans, but until he does, I'M CORRECT, not you

Pac has already gotten stomped by El Terrible, NOT the other way around

no no no no.

Like I said, you're stoopid assumption of 50/50 times Erik will win against Pac is eitha pure biased towards Morales or jest plain fall out stoopidity!

It was a close ****in FIGHT!. (oldgringo it was close.........HBO brainwashed you into thinking it was a clear win DOMINATION)

Ta only reason, Morales will OR MIGHT survive Pac's A-Bombs is becuz HE'S NATURRALLY BIGGER that Pacquiao. It aint his style that will, according to you, beat Pac 50/50 times. **** outa here. I believe Pac will beat Morales in ta rematch and I may sound biased at times towards ma homeboi, but shyyyyyyt I know I aint throwin dumb shyt. LIKE YOU wit that 50/50 times crap.

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 05:13 PM
jsut 2 play Devil's Advocate:

Pac beat Barrera on the worst night of Barrera's life, and Barrera had MONY MORE distractions going into that fight, than Pac had goin into the Morales fight....

the only person who was robbed was Juan Manuel!!! The guy won 10 outta 12 rounds!!!! Pac has 1 good frame, the 1st, and got worse every preceeding round....

Pac has fought all 3, I give him credit for that, but remember that Pac's services ALWAYS come cheaper than the other 3, who are far bigger attractions here in the states (you could argue that JMM doesn't deserve big-$$$, but he's still the more experienced and recognized champion compared to Pac)


YOU'RE TA ONE MAKING EXUSES HOMEBOI!

Pacquiao beat ta shyt outa MAB that night. Pac woulnt Barrera get ta best of him. He would answer back and land ta last shots. It's funny that ta excuses you make on MAB aint even backed up by serious evidences that can convince anyone that knows it's ****in uttered crap. Fall out!

Barrerea is ta same ****in fighta (when he fought Pac) that fought Peden, Monkey Fana, Ayala, and Morales. HE's SLOW, DON't GOT POWER, and an easy counterable jab!!!!!!!! Pac would murder his azz again. STOP WIT TA EXCUSES!

and fo ****'s skae you don't know how to score rounds! Pac shoulda beaten Marquez by 1-2 points. YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH!

Pak men
09-22-2005, 06:23 PM
These wussies all talk about excuses but if they look at their own ass. It clearly says there.... I had an off night against PACMAN but I don't want to fight leftovers. lol! Coward.

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 07:20 PM
no no no no.

Like I said, you're stoopid assumption of 50/50 times Erik will win against Pac is eitha pure biased towards Morales or jest plain fall out stoopidity!

It was a close ****in FIGHT!. (oldgringo it was close.........HBO brainwashed you into thinking it was a clear win DOMINATION)

Ta only reason, Morales will OR MIGHT survive Pac's A-Bombs is becuz HE'S NATURRALLY BIGGER that Pacquiao. It aint his style that will, according to you, beat Pac 50/50 times. **** outa here. I believe Pac will beat Morales in ta rematch and I may sound biased at times towards ma homeboi, but shyyyyyyt I know I aint throwin dumb shyt. LIKE YOU wit that 50/50 times crap.


I never said it wasn't close...it was a competitive but CLEAR win for Morales. No controversy or anything about it. Erik controlled the fight with his all around skills and punished Pacquiao with accurate right hands.

It was a hell of a fight, but Morales beat Pacquiao clearly. Last time I let the HBO commentators influence me was....oh wait they've never influenced me.

Even my pinoy amigos (jomapac, thrilla, etc) said that it was a clear win and Erik was the better man that night. Get over it.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 07:24 PM
I never said it wasn't close...it was a competitive but CLEAR win for Morales. No controversy or anything about it. Erik controlled the fight with his all around skills and punished Pacquiao with accurate right hands.

It was a hell of a fight, but Morales beat Pacquiao clearly. Last time I let the HBO commentators influence me was....oh wait they've never influenced me.

Even my pinoy amigos (jomapac, thrilla, etc) said that it was a clear win and Erik was the better man that night. Get over it.
CHEERS Gringo!!! Somebody's got it figured out

this ain't about who you like to root for...heck, I love Pac's style! he's one of the top 5 entertainers in boxing....I've always disliked El Terrible, but the FACT remains that he controlled Pac for 12 rounds, or at least for 7 of 12 (I had it 117-111 for what its worth)

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 07:28 PM
I never said it wasn't close...it was a competitive but CLEAR win for Morales. No controversy or anything about it. Erik controlled the fight with his all around skills and punished Pacquiao with accurate right hands.

It was a hell of a fight, but Morales beat Pacquiao clearly. Last time I let the HBO commentators influence me was....oh wait they've never influenced me.

Even my pinoy amigos (jomapac, thrilla, etc) said that it was a clear win and Erik was the better man that night. Get over it.


get ova what? Get ova what?


Don't blame me fo correcting ta idiot who said 50/50times Morales beats Pac becuz of style despite of a close fight.

Sactown = Exposed of stoopidity and I was there to witness it!

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 07:29 PM
CHEERS Gringo!!! Somebody's got it figured out

this ain't about who you like to root for...heck, I love Pac's style! he's one of the top 5 entertainers in boxing....I've always disliked El Terrible, but the FACT remains that he controlled Pac for 12 rounds, or at least for 7 of 12 (I had it 117-111 for what its worth)

117-111? .........you're sinking deeper in to that stoopidity ladder!

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 07:31 PM
117-111? .........you're sinking deeper in to that stoopidity ladder!
is that how you spell "stupidity"?

when did they start donating computers to your project building?

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 07:36 PM
get ova what? Get ova what?


Don't blame me fo correcting ta idiot who said 50/50times Morales beats Pac becuz of style despite of a close fight.

Sactown = Exposed of stoopidity and I was there to witness it!


I'm not talking about your beef with SacTown...I'm talking about the fact that you can't get over Morales CLEARLY beating your boy.

That's why I said in a previous post, "get over it".

Until you admit that Morales won a competitive but clear fight, you are going to look a little loco.

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 07:37 PM
is that how you spell "stupidity"?

when did they start donating computers to your project building?

woooow, way to nitpick! 50/50.....HAH! Don't make me laugh!

The Fix
09-22-2005, 07:40 PM
morales ud but after his last fight i dont want to see this match. raheem's name needs to be on that card not morales'

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 07:41 PM
I'm not talking about your beef with SacTown...I'm talking about the fact that you can't get over Morales CLEARLY beating your boy.

That's why I said in a previous post, "get over it".

Until you admit that Morales won a competitive but clear fight, you are going to look a little loco.

It was a competitive clear fight. I aint in denial!

But shyyyt, when dumbass like Sactown here says he scored it 117-111, then I **** ma shyt back and try to answer him back tellin him "nooo way, it was closer than that"....you automatically awesome that MAYBE I haven't "got ova it"! LOL!

Sactown is an idiot and I hope errr Pac fan bash his azz wit that 50/50 times Morales beat Pac....and 117-111 score card! And ta mo aggravating thing is........HE SAYS IT LIKE HE's SERIOUS! Goddamn!

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 07:43 PM
It was a competitive clear fight. I aint in denial!

But shyyyt, when dumbass like Sactown here says he scored it 117-111, then I **** ma shyt back and try to answer him back tellin him "nooo way, it was closer than that"....you automatically awesome that MAYBE I haven't "got ova it"! LOL!

Sactown is an idiot and I hope errr Pac fan bash his azz wit that 50/50 times Morales beat Pac....and 117-111 score card! And ta mo aggravating thing is........HE SAYS IT LIKE HE's SERIOUS! Goddamn!


Thank you. Here's looking forward to the rematch.

oldgringo
09-22-2005, 07:43 PM
morales ud but after his last fight i dont want to see this match. raheem's name needs to be on that card not morales'


Hmmm, Pacquiao would bring a lot of heat at Raheem. I'd like to see them square off at a catchweight like 132.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 07:44 PM
It was a competitive clear fight. I aint in denial!

But shyyyt, when dumbass like Sactown here says he scored it 117-111, then I **** ma shyt back and try to answer him back tellin him "nooo way, it was closer than that"....you automatically awesome that MAYBE I haven't "got ova it"! LOL!

Sactown is an idiot and I hope errr Pac fan bash his azz wit that 50/50 times Morales beat Pac....and 117-111 score card! And ta mo aggravating thing is........HE SAYS IT LIKE HE's SERIOUS! Goddamn!
you can cry cry cry until your eyes are dry, but PAC IS 0-1 VS MORALES

and he'll never beat him

ever

hey, I could be proven wrong in January, but until then, who's right?!?! ME DAT'S WHO!!!

Floydmayweather
09-22-2005, 09:59 PM
If Morales can make 130 he is not gonna have the energy to outlast Pac again. He had to weigh in twice just to make 135. Pac also throws the right more often. I just cant see Morales winning this fight Pac has no distractions anymore, and Morales looks like he has lost a step.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 10:04 PM
If Morales can make 130 he is not gonna have the energy to outlast Pac again. He had to weigh in twice just to make 135. Pac also throws the right more often. I just cant see Morales winning this fight Pac has no distractions anymore, and Morales looks like he has lost a step.
Pac-Morales WON'T be at 130....you know Arum will make it some catch-weight of like 133 in order to favor Morales, and Pac's camp will give in, just like they did with the glove incident in the 1st fight....I'll give you the fact that pac throws the right hook more now, frankly he's about 3 fights too late, if he had that right hook vs. Marquez he'd have earned 2 featherweight title belts...BELIEVE ME, Pac and his camp will come up with distractions/excuses, they always do

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 10:08 PM
Pac-Morales WON'T be at 130....you know Arum will make it some catch-weight of like 133 in order to favor Morales, and Pac's camp will give in, just like they did with the glove incident in the 1st fight....I'll give you the fact that pac throws the right hook more now, frankly he's about 3 fights too late, if he had that right hook vs. Marquez he'd have earned 2 featherweight title belts...BELIEVE ME, Pac and his camp will come up with distractions/excuses, they always do

And what makes you think Morales camp calls all ta shots??? His azz got whomped by Raheem. No way in hell he demands all ta crazy shyt! His market value went down! No way in hell he gonna start makin Pac and his camp do shyt!


Catch weight ma ass........Morales betta hit ta jakuzi and sauna right now cuz his ass needs 130lbs by January!

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 10:11 PM
And what makes you think Morales camp calls all ta shots??? His azz got whomped by Raheem. No way in hell he demands all ta crazy shyt! His market value went down! No way in hell he gonna start makin Pac and his camp do shyt!


Catch weight ma ass........Morales betta hit ta jakuzi and sauna right now cuz his ass needs 130lbs by January!
Bob Arum is Morales' promoter, BOB calls the shots, which in turn means that EL TERRIBLE calls the shots

Manny has a corrupt manager (Finkel) and a greedy promoter (Shaw) who will go after the quick $$$, which means they'll make any concession that Bob Arum/Morales ask for

Manny_P
09-22-2005, 10:16 PM
Bob Arum is Morales' promoter, BOB calls the shots, which in turn means that EL TERRIBLE calls the shots

Manny has a corrupt manager (Finkel) and a greedy promoter (Shaw) who will go after the quick $$$, which means they'll make any concession that Bob Arum/Morales ask for


no no no! you don't even know yer shyt!


it's reported that ta purse of ta fightas will BE TA SAME fo tis fight. I believe ta minimum will be 2 mil each. It means, Pac and Morales BOTH will get ta same amount of money due to ta fact that Morales got his ass whomped by Raheem alone. Had he won, Morales woulda gotten mo money that Pac in ta rematch!

tis shows, that Morales' camp aint in command! Not even. It's all common sense. Bob Arum don't got to do shyt wit tis. Pac and Roach already said that ta fight will be at 130lbs and won't be any above that PERIOD!


Morales will have to go to sauna and jakuzi as soon as possible! Work his azz off. WTF????!! If 135 lbs aint Morales right weight becuz Raheem whooped his ass and people are *****in about that, then I see no prob fo him to make 130lbs. THE DIVISION HIS FANS CLAIM HE'S BEST AT!

SuckaPunch
09-22-2005, 10:52 PM
LMAO @ the choices!

Of course, if Pac wins by KO, then Morales loses by KO LOL. You think it's possible that Pac wins by KO but Morales loses by decision, hehe.

Anyway, I think Morales takes this one again by UD. Styles make fights and he's just bigger than Manny. Nevertheless, I will still root for Pac all the way.

MlLkMan
09-22-2005, 11:02 PM
Pacman by KO or TKO, you see the hunger in him again.

SacTown1
09-22-2005, 11:03 PM
LMAO @ the choices!

Of course, if Pac wins by KO, then Morales loses by KO LOL. You think it's possible that Pac wins by KO but Morales loses by decision, hehe.

Anyway, I think Morales takes this one again by UD. Styles make fights and he's just bigger than Manny. Nevertheless, I will still root for Pac all the way.
HOLY *****, an objective Pacman fan!!!!!!!

There's a 1st for everything I guess :)

Kudos to the honesty and objectivity in your analysis

Ukr_Alex
09-22-2005, 11:04 PM
Morals wins a good UD.

SLIMZ
09-22-2005, 11:56 PM
y is d survey very one sided??????????????

JaNnO
09-23-2005, 12:01 AM
Pac's style is taylor-made for El Terrible

if they fight 50 times, Erik will have 50 more victories

it's just like the Tyson-Holyfield Theory, some boxing styles will always dominate their opponent's style, it's not about "who's better" or "who's tougher", STYLES make fights, taller volume/counter-punchers will dominate shorter brawlers 99.999% of the time

if morales showed up fat and slow as he did for the raheem fight, pac will surely ko him in early rounds. i'm pretty sure erik will try to rebound from his last loss and spoil manny's revenge...but his loss to raheem has caused a big dent on his confidence and morale...pac by late round ko or ud.

grayfist
09-23-2005, 12:11 AM
Re the matter of with whose camp shall Arum lean: Erik or Pac....

Arum has always been an astute businessman. I won't be suprised if he'd see to it that the Pac camp is catered to (without necessarily offending Erik). Pac has more years in him than Erik. Arum, despite his age, still looks into the future, I suppose.

At the pace his going, Erik may have only 2 to three years left. If that. He's wealthy. From what I've read, he has handled his money well; he can retire any time.

JaNnO
09-23-2005, 12:12 AM
Pac-Morales WON'T be at 130....you know Arum will make it some catch-weight of like 133 in order to favor Morales, and Pac's camp will give in, just like they did with the glove incident in the 1st fight....I'll give you the fact that pac throws the right hook more now, frankly he's about 3 fights too late, if he had that right hook vs. Marquez he'd have earned 2 featherweight title belts...BELIEVE ME, Pac and his camp will come up with distractions/excuses, they always do

were you suggesting that em won their first fight because the term wasn't even...it sounds cheating on my vocabulary... i knew murad was up to no good the first time he handled manny's career . murad was a certified fool to be suckered into that just to earn money at the expense of somebody.

i don't think pac's camp will make the same mistake twice. morales needs manny now than manny needs him. there are still better fights for him like pac-mab 2 and pac-jmm 2 and the former may earn him close to what he's getting for pac-em 2 although i think both mab and em have a case of chickening out.

JaNnO
09-23-2005, 12:17 AM
you can cry cry cry until your eyes are dry, but PAC IS 0-1 VS MORALES

and he'll never beat him

ever

hey, I could be proven wrong in January, but until then, who's right?!?! ME DAT'S WHO!!!

i highly doubt this...any thing can happen in the sqaure ring. their first fight was very close and it was easy to say that it could have gone the other way or at least a draw. manny was hindered by the cut he suffered in the fifth round that was an accidental headbutt but was ruled as a punch by the ref.

of course manny has a big chance of beating erik and it goes both ways. the way i see it from their last fights, erik is on his way down and manny is his way up! :boxing:

Pak men
09-25-2005, 06:52 AM
y is d survey very one sided??????????????
Because it is, now if you got a problem with that, better shut your mouth. lol!