I think Tarver won, but he really didn't do it convincingly. Johnson was the aggressor the entire fight, but Tarver was landing a lot more and a lot harder punches.

I think it was a bad decision, but I guess I can blame Tarver for letting it be so close by constantly backing up.

I think I can also blame the Nevada State Athletic Commission for using geriatric judges.

Sorry, but I thought it was a DRAW. Many rounds were very hard to score, e.g. round 4 or the last two rounds.

I think a draw would have been fair. I thought tarver did just enough to win but didnt really win convincingly.

i totally agree with u i think he shoulda had that fight, but i can understand the decision, i think im about 65% - 35% for tarver but thats how boxing goes, if u gotta take it 2 points u gotta make sure u got the points in the bag... backing off around the ring aint gonna get u points and he cant really complain, but still i think tarver did enough in there to take it

A draw I could have lived with. I'm just excited because I know we're going to see it again :)

Last time I posted the rounds were 6 for Tarver 3 for Johnson

A draw I could have lived with. I'm just excited because I know we're going to see it again :)


that would be awesome !

what a great fight !

Whenever I see Melvina Lathan is one of the judges, I expect a travesty.
Tarver won. Look at the Compubox numbers.

I thought that Tarver would have won. He lost the fight by not throwing at the right times. I gave Johnson the fight by 2 points.

I certainly don't think that the division is a great one, but I take my hat to Johnson for his clear dedication to the sport. Well done Glen....You deserve it!

(Now I gotta go & find the $M5 I lost to the bookies ;)

Whenever I see Melvina Lathan is one of the judges, I expect a travesty.
Tarver won. Look at the Compubox numbers.


but Johnson landed more harder punches :D

What? ONE more??

It was a real close one. Whether it was a robbery or not, I don't think I'm qualified to say, but that's just how it is in boxing.

That's why I always say..

Once you go black, you'll never go back..

Listen to the corner between the 11th and 12th!

McGirt to Tarver "You need a Knockout"

Cueller to Johnson "Win this round and its yours!"


NUFF SAID, ;)

tarver's mistake was taking too many breaks. he wasn't active enough. if johnson hadn't pressed the action, this would have likely been a much more boring fight. we need more boxers like johnson who are aggressive and work hard during the fight

Whenever I see Melvina Lathan is one of the judges, I expect a travesty.
Tarver won. Look at the Compubox numbers.


No ****! That ***** had it 116-112 (8 rounds to 4 Johnson). Yeah it may have not been that impressive, but Tarver won that fight. I had it 7 rounds to 5. The rounds weren't that hard to score at all.....when Tarver took a round off Johnson won it...every other round Tarver out landed him with the cleaner heavier shots.

I'm beginning to ****in hate the sport because there is always this judging bull****!

I thought it would be draw too...guess I was wrong.

um.. yeah... Buddy McGirt always says that.

As for Johnson, I am definitely glad for him. He's been entertaining me for years, and I'm glad he can finally afford to quit having a second job.

IMO Tarver won the fight. If he would of kept the pressure throughout the whole fight, then it would've been a different outcome on the judges scorecards.

Listen to the corner between the 11th and 12th!

McGirt to Tarver "You need a Knockout"

Cueller to Johnson "Win this round and its yours!"


NUFF SAID, ;)

You're a ****ing moron......those are common statements that corner guys give to their fighters to get them to give maximum effort in the last round. Look at the punch stats.......Tarver out landed him by a large margin, and it's not like Johnson is the heavier puncher so he could make up the slack with the more impressive shots. Listen....I respect Johnson for being a good person and a hard worker, but I'm a boxing fan and he did not win the fight. If you think he did then you obviously don't know the sport that well.

The right man won this fight, but it was indeed close.

Johnson in no way convinced me he won that fight. Tarver didn't do much convincing either but he won it clear even though it was close.

The people that Bet on Tarver will surely click YES!Fact is the big mouth Tarver lost and the guy thats been getting robbed of decision for many years overseas finially got a close decision going in his favor.

I do not think Tarver has a big mouth. :)

I have not heard him say anything exaggerated.

rematch!!!!

Tarver did enough to get the decision by 2 points. I find it funny that Tarver was talking alot of crap for the past few months and now lost. Anyways, would like to see them do it again, it was a good fight.

I should also add that I'm not really all that upset about the decision. It's actually one of the better wrong decisions I've seen in a few years. At least in this one, a good, hard working guy gets a lift.

it was a close enough fight that the word 'robbery' isn't fair. That being said, Tarver seemed to control the fight, threw more punches, landed more, didn't let Johnson fight all night on the ropes - I had it 115-113 Tarver.

Lost a million points.

Oh well, easy come easy go.

I'll put 2.5 million on Tarver in the inevitable rematch. You in, jpboxer3?

I'm not going to say it was a robbery but Johnson clearly lost the fight in my eyes.

it was a close enough fight that the word 'robbery' isn't fair. That being said, Tarver seemed to control the fight, threw more punches, landed more, didn't let Johnson fight all night on the ropes - I had it 115-113 Tarver.

Lost a million points.

Oh well, easy come easy go.

I'll put 2.5 million on Tarver in the inevitable rematch. You in, jpboxer3?


I have lost 500K since I put on Johnson TKO Tarver :D

it was a close enough fight that the word 'robbery' isn't fair. That being said, Tarver seemed to control the fight, threw more punches, landed more, didn't let Johnson fight all night on the ropes - I had it 115-113 Tarver.

Lost a million points.

Oh well, easy come easy go.

I'll put 2.5 million on Tarver in the inevitable rematch. You in, jpboxer3?


Yeah,im in.I have to change the date in my signature now :cool:

This "bad decision" (from my perspective) simply comes from the judges seeing the fight differently than me. I can't see any reason why there would be any outside factors when the fight wasn't for a belt and nothing other than bragging rights was really at stake.

They both came in as #1, #2 money men, draws at lt. heavy (with Roy in limbo) and both left the fight the same.

The best money and most interesting fight is a rematch. Nothing else at lt. heavy is a big deal right now.

Yeah,im in.I have to change the date in my signature now :cool:


Just out of curiosity, how did you have the fight scored?

Had Tarver won this fight we would still see this thread....LOL

tarver was robbbed. i had it 7-5 in rounds.

Just out of curiosity, how did you have the fight scored?


Unfortunatly I didn't score it tonight,lol.I knew it would be close and it could have gone either way much like most of the MAB-Morales Trilogy fights.

hell no...it was a close fight..tarver f'ed up by resting one of the "championship round (10)"...anyway i dont think any of them deserved to win..bu i am glad glen won..anyway..(rematch of course is coming up,cuz it the best money out there for both)

its weird when tarver loses and look like he lost his best freind in the rinf after the fight i feel sorry for him..but when he does win he act like a a-hole and i hate him...me and tarver have a weird relationship lol...bastard :D

it was a close enough fight that the word 'robbery' isn't fair.
I was just thinking that when I saw you post. I used the word in response to the other thread.

The term 'Robbery' WOuld be taking things way too far.

It could have gone either way but Johnson has been robbed so many times isn't good to see it go his way for once. It was very close but to call it a robbery would be kind of extreme.

It was an awesome fight, I would have been satisfied with either one winning or it being a draw. Such a back in forth battle. My card matched Lederman's card to a tee!

They really have to fight a rematch, it was too close to close the show on this fight.

The only thing that bothered me in this fight was how many references Lampley made to the RJJ fights.

I smell a trilogy starting here.

Well said...

I was at the fight, and I had it a draw. The decision was NOT a robbery. Johnson fought HARD!

Under the circumstances that currently exist, a Tarver loss makes a rematch look a little bit more compelling than a Johnson loss, doesn't it? ;) ;) ;)

Under the circumstances that currently exist, a Tarver loss makes a rematch look a little bit more compelling than a Johnson loss, doesn't it? ;) ;) ;)

Definetly

If it was Tarver winning by Split Decision,a rematch most likely wouldn't happen.

i honestly thought glen johnson won 7-5. a rematch sounds pretty good and i would definatley watch it.

I'm beginning to ****in hate the sport because there is always this judging bull****!


Amen!
LOLOLOL
true dat

:D

Tarver isn't the dominating fighter i thought he would be. I'm so glad Johnson won this fight, i think he is a really nice levelheaded guy. Very modest about his ability and always gives 100% in and out of the ring.

i wouldnt go so far as to call it a robbery as it was a great close fight. it seems to me that tarver's stamina was lacking in that fight as he looked really tired in the championship rounds just as he did in the first roy jones fight. tarver allowed johnson to stay in the fight by not staying busy enough to win rounds, he simply gave them away

:D DAMN! I have just lost 9.6 M points on that fight. I went for TARVER by KO.:D but no hard feelings, Tarver FAILED to deliver the goods. I don't think he was robbed, that was a good close fight, some rounds were very hard to score. Tarver simply faded away in the later rounds and Johnson's aggresiveness worked for him. Finally justice for Johnson.

I had Tarver up 115-113. He landed more and harder punches. Not a robbery by any means, but a wrong decision. Glencoffe did not display effective aggressiveness. However, the close decision couldn't have gone to a more deserving guy. So bring on the rematch.

I understand some Tarver fans being upset, but at the same time, I have seen MUCH worse decisions in this sport, to me Johnson did enough to win it, and I really don't pay much attention to Compu Box numbers, I saw Johnson picking off Tarvers' punches with his elbows and gloves all night long.

I must admit though, it was a very entertaining fight, and in the end I scored it a draw because Tarver lost the 10th and the 11th rounds and perhaps didn't even do enough to "win" the 12th although I, myself, gave it to him by a VERY slight margin in the final round....

ok too tired (Ostoned) to read all the posts..
heres my verdict having NOT seen the fight.

if most (is it most) people score it 116-114 tarver
how is johnson getting 115-113 twice controversial.

from the commentary it appeared johnson threw more punches
and tarver landed the bigger shots..

seems the judges scored based on aggression as we know
they do..and the commentators always point it out (yawn)

its about time the system was al least reviewed though..
because unless theres a ko these big fights can be a joke.

maybe johnson did actually win..
maybe byrd and ruiz beat golota..

or they did enough for the judges. :mad:
just hope pac - jmm aint marred by more controversy..

compubox is a joke. if they are gonna do compubox they might as well do effective aggressivness and ring generalship and defense as well. as st pointed out alot of those punches tarver threw were sliding off tarvers gloves and arms. he had no aggressiveness, no ring generalship and a decent defense. that being said i thought tarver landed more clean punches, his aggressivness was definately effective at keeping tarver backpeddaling, clearly ring generalship was better than tarvers but defense was less than tarvers. another thing to take into consideration when reading the judges score cards is that we at home obviously get the best view. the 3 judges are seated at 3 different side of the ring. therefore each judge sees a different perspective. what one judge sees may not be visable from where one of the other judges is sitting. what may be missed could be very important. personally i thought it was a robbery the first time i watched it. but then i went back and watched it a few more times. taking all these things into consideration i scored it closer to a draw but if i had to choose who won it would have been johnson.

Johnson won because he brought his fight to tarver while tarver backpedaled most of the time. It was a difficult fight to judge I admit and the judge who gave tarver 4 points advantage after the fight must have put some money on the man. Damn, how can that be 4 points! Compubox are well... compubox!, they cannot judge!

I thought tarver EDGED Johnson....but I wasn't bothered by the decision.
There was not a whole lot to choose between the two.

A rematch would suit everyone.....