View Full Version : Your Take On Edwin Rosario?


Perfect Plex
04-21-2011, 11:27 PM
How great was in your opinion?

3 time LW champion and 1 time JWW champion. Held wins over Edwin Viruet, Jose Luis Ramirez, Howard Davis Jr, Frankie Randall, & Livingstone Bramble.

Scott9945
04-21-2011, 11:36 PM
Even though Rosario had a good career, he never lived up to the potential I saw in him when he was starting out at 122. He became a feared slugger but never fully developed his boxing skills.

IronDanHamza
04-21-2011, 11:42 PM
Good fighter. Great punch, beat a list of good fighters.

He got inducted into the HOF a few years ago and I was pleased with that outcome.

Like Scott said he wasn't as good as I expected to see when he blew his first 20 odd opponents away, but still a good fighter none the less.

Steak
04-21-2011, 11:44 PM
oustanding puncher. although I agree with Scott that he never fulfilled his potential, he still had a damn good career, even if it was offset by drug use by then end of it.

The wins you listed were very good, but I wouldnt count his win over Viruet, Viruet was real past prime. however, I would add in his wins over Elizondo, Nazario, Jones, and especially Loreto Garza, which were all significantly good at the time.

Garza was coming off a great winning streak over Pazienza, Juan Martin Coggi and Frankie Warren. the fact Rosario beat the stuffing out of him like he did despite being near the end of his career is really impressive to me. one of my favorite early fight blowouts.
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e_boxer
04-21-2011, 11:52 PM
Even though Rosario had a good career, he never lived up to the potential I saw in him when he was starting out at 122. He became a feared slugger but never fully developed his boxing skills.

Infamous puncher good boxer and had heart one of two puertoricans i respect.:boxing:

TheMexHurricane
04-21-2011, 11:58 PM
How great was in your opinion?

3 time LW champion and 1 time JWW champion. Held wins over Edwin Viruet, Jose Luis Ramirez, Howard Davis Jr, Frankie Randall, & Livingstone Bramble.

ATG among punchers. Would've been better had it not been for inconsistency.

BennyST
04-22-2011, 12:05 AM
How great was in your opinion?

3 time LW champion and 1 time JWW champion. Held wins over Edwin Viruet, Jose Luis Ramirez, Howard Davis Jr, Frankie Randall, & Livingstone Bramble.

Of all those wins, his one punch knock out of Edwin Viruet was most amazing to me. Viruet was as iron chinned a fighter as you are likely to come across and a great defensive boxer and all around underrated fighter. While he was past it, he was still active and it was just vicious. Perfectly set up counter right hand.

That was the end of Viruet's career apart from an ill-advised come back after some time for one fight, which he was also knocked out in strangely enough and showed just how far he had gone. He looked like a badly strung out drug addict in those last fights of his though sadly.

Apart from Duran, no one ever really beat Viruet though until the knock out by Rosario. He had only lost SDs to Sammy Goss, which I understand was a terrible decision, and to Esteban De Jesus which also could have easily gone either way. The other losses were the two to Duran and one in his 'comeback' fight which was his last fight ever to the very fine amd undefeated Alvin Hayes.

Nonetheless, it just goes to show, to me anyway, how good a puncher and fighter Rosario was at his best. Though it was many years after his fights to De Jesus, Goss, Duran etc, being knocked out so bad was pretty incredible. It was like seeing Margarito brutalised and knocked out by Mosley.

yeykax
04-22-2011, 12:47 AM
Had the pleasure to meet him when I was young.Took at least 5 boxing clinics in PR.Very good boxer awesome puncher and he always had a drug addiction from what I understood from my uncles that knew him.If it wasn't for that maybe he would've unraveled his full potential.Too bad he died young!

Jury
04-22-2011, 03:39 AM
One of the hardest right hands ever!

Wild Blue Yonda
04-22-2011, 04:42 AM
I really thought he'd be a lot more competitive with Chavez than he was.

Pastrano
04-22-2011, 07:00 AM
I disagree with SCOTT and the rest. Chapo could never have taken CAMACHO to a disputed decision loss, a decision I scored for CHAPO 115-113 personally, if he hadn't developed fully as a boxer. No, the case is simply that he went up against some very tough and very good guys and didn't win always. Ramirez got to him in the rematch and Chavez was just too good/strong for him. He was already past prime when he lost to Nazario. He had problems with drugs also I believe. I think its a shame he never fought Whitaker, doesn't matter if you think he'd have no chance, it would still be exciting to see this matchup.

Scott9945
04-22-2011, 12:26 PM
I really thought he'd be a lot more competitive with Chavez than he was.

Going in I thought that fight was a toss up. It turned out to be (IMO) the best performance of JCC's career.

Pastrano
04-22-2011, 12:30 PM
Going in I thought that fight was a toss up. It turned out to be (IMO) the best performance of JCC's career.

I wonder if Chapo was really at his best that night...:sad2:

Scott9945
04-22-2011, 12:43 PM
I wonder if Chapo was really at his best that night...:sad2:

Maybe not, but he looked just totally outclassed in that match.

Wild Blue Yonda
04-22-2011, 09:46 PM
Going in I thought that fight was a toss up. It turned out to be (IMO) the best performance of JCC's career.

If not, it would have to be mighty close to it. Chavez just mugged him.

jabsRstiff
04-25-2011, 09:05 AM
He was the best prospect I'd ever seen. He certainly did not live up to the amazing potential he had, but still had a phenomenal and highly entertaining career. Definitely one of the hardest punchers in history, and his KO of Bramble is one of the most awesome offensive displays I've ever seen- hitting the iron-chinned Bramble with beautiful textbook bombs from every angle.

Pastrano
04-25-2011, 01:54 PM
Imo Chapo was at his most impressive against Camacho. Macho was one of the fastest boxers in history and had also boxing skills that few had at the time and Chapo gave him such a beating in some rounds, especially the 5th. I had Rosario winning 115-113, scored the 5th 10-8 for him. He was also quite impressive in dispatching Bramble in only 2 rounds, something nobody had done previously and I'm not sure if ever did it since. He could look a total beast on his best nights and sluggish at his worst, like against Chavez. The second fight with Ramirez is a classic as well. One can say that its possible he punched himself out in that fight.

jabsRstiff
04-26-2011, 08:06 AM
Imo Chapo was at his most impressive against Camacho. Macho was one of the fastest boxers in history and had also boxing skills that few had at the time and Chapo gave him such a beating in some rounds, especially the 5th. I had Rosario winning 115-113, scored the 5th 10-8 for him. He was also quite impressive in dispatching Bramble in only 2 rounds, something nobody had done previously and I'm not sure if ever did it since. He could look a total beast on his best nights and sluggish at his worst, like against Chavez. The second fight with Ramirez is a classic as well. One can say that its possible he punched himself out in that fight.

Rosario at his absolute best could not have handled Julio Cesar Chavez that night. Very few 135lbers in history could have- it was one of the most impressive performances I've ever witnessed.