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Drewcyfer 09-16-2005, 09:41 AM Race-Baiters Capitalize on N.O. Tragedy
Armstrong Williams
Thursday, Sept. 15, 2005
Television images of the huddled masses in the New Orleans Superdome revealed something rather extraordinary: nearly all the faces were black.
Could it be that rescue workers really gave preferential treatment to white evacuees? Could it be that even something as crucial as disaster relief was grounded in the maintenance of racial privilege? It was a disarming thought, and one that several pundits were quick to seize upon. Jesse Jackson told CNN that "The I-10 causeway ... looked like … the hull of a slave ship."
DNC Chairman Howard Dean pronounced that "we must … come to grips with the ugly truth that skin color … played a deadly role in who survived and who did not."
The New York Times ran a news article that began, "The white people got out. Most of them, anyway. If television images can be deemed a statistical sample, it was mostly black people who were left behind."
Rapper Kanye West was even more blunt, veering from the script during NBC's hurricane relief telethon and blurting out, "George Bush doesn't care about black people."
Many Americans agree. A poll by the Pew Research Center reveals that two-thirds of American blacks believe that the federal government was slow to respond to this crisis because the majority of the victims were black. On this point, I want to be clear. This notion that race was a factor in the relief effort is not only dishonest - it is reprehensible. The reason why most of those stranded in the Superdome were black is because two-thirds of the city's residents are black.
In fact, much of the city's local representatives are black. New Orleans has a black city council. They have black elected representatives. They have black judges. All of whom failed to send any buses to evacuate New Orleans' residents before the hurricane hit.
Are the black democratic elected representatives in New Orleans also racist because they utterly failed to coordinate a timely rescue effort? Of course not. It is true that the majority of people trapped in New Orleans during the storm were black. But so were the majority of people who escaped.
The key factor distinguishing the two groups was that the majority of those left behind were poor. They lacked transportation. Both the local and federal government failed to develop evacuation procedures for people without cars. The people who couldn't afford transportation were left behind. The sad fact is that 30 percent of New Orleans residents live below the poverty line. One of the effects of Hurricane Katrina was to bring their plight into focus. The response to their plight, however, is even more telling.
The need to couch this tragedy in racial rhetoric reveals an assumption, now so ingrained in our culture, that the problems of black people - whether it is high crime rates or being victimized by a natural disaster - are primarily the result of white racism. Implying that rescue workers only saved white families or that President Bush gave the order to let black people drown not only obscures complex issues like race relations, but it also buries the root cause of this tragedy - poverty in our urban centers.
This is a very real problem. It has a perverse effect on people of color. And it gets completely obscured when people like Jesse Jackson or Kanye West complicate this tragedy by using race to further divide this country. When these people employ racially divisive rhetoric to describe the New Orleans disaster, they shift the dialogue away from the real problems that plague our urban centers.
Notice, none of our so-called black leaders are discussing economic solutions that are needed to empower urban communities. No one is even placing the problem in its proper political context.
Instead, they are simply using this tragedy as an excuse to play the race card. Plainly, their goal is to stir racial tensions. This is how they make a living. They give ethnic groups, who already feel marginalized, something to pump their fists at.
But they don't talk about solutions. One only hopes that, after they're all done blaming President Bush for this natural disaster, our so-called black leaders can pause just long enough to thoughtfully deal with the problem of urban poverty that is at the heart of this tragedy. www.armstrongwilliams.com
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 09:45 AM I like how the Republicans are consistently blaming local and state gov'ts for what happened, while Dems are consistently blaming the feds, yet everyone is claiming that they aren't playing partisan politics. This is the disgusting mess that is modern politics.
I like how the Republicans are consistently blaming local and state gov'ts for what happened, while Dems are consistently blaming the feds, yet everyone is claiming that they aren't playing partisan politics. This is the disgusting mess that is modern politics.
....Yeah Bomb, but the President stood up and took responsibility for the Governments role in the failures.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 09:48 AM Also last night governor of Miss. took responsibilty. Everyone is owning up to it which is good to hear and I liked Bush's speech last night, seems intent on getting NO and the Coast back up and running.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 09:51 AM ....Yeah Bomb, but the President stood up and took responsibility for the Governments role in the failures.
I almost edited my post and added that...yeah, I can give him and his administration credit for that. I don't know, it's stupid for any side to not take some of the blame since it cuts across all levels, but these pundits jump on TV and play the politics game as soon as its socially acceptable to do so.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 09:53 AM On CNN last night, the first thing they did was jump on the Pres when his speech was over and say he didn't address accountability. Right before that, Wolf Blitzer noted how the Pres said "I'm the President and I'm responsible (for it)."
****in liberal idiots.
Too bad for the conservatives it was hard to suck on Bush's nuts after Katrina. His pop. polls are down to 41%. Maybe he can get it back up though.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 09:54 AM I'm glad that they seem to recognize the seriousness of this situation. You can't just drain the water and clean the mud off and open the doors and expect everyone to move back in. The thing is that there is a decent chance that New Orleans and the Gulf Coast may never recover from this. At least these initiatives they're proposing will give them a halfway decent shot of luring people back.
The mayor wants to spit-clean the place in a few days and thinks that people and businesses will come rushing back. Guy's not exactly a genius.
jabsRstiff 09-16-2005, 09:55 AM This was a failure from the local New Orleans government up until the White House.
As usual....the people will truly save the people....not the government.
Taxpayers will give up their time, & more money....because the taxes they pay throughout their lives never get put to use properly.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 09:55 AM On CNN last night, the first thing they did was jump on the Pres when his speech was over and say he didn't address accountability. Right before that, Wolf Blitzer noted how the Pres said "I'm the President and I'm responsible (for it)."
****in liberal idiots.
Too bad for the conservatives it was hard to suck on Bush's nuts after Katrina. His pop. polls are down to 41%. Maybe he can get it back up though.
I hope that when right-wing newscasters say stupid **** you say "****ing conservative idiots".
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 09:57 AM This was a failure from the local New Orleans government up until the White House.
As usual....the people will truly save the people....not the government.
Taxpayers will give up their time, & more money....because the taxes they pay throughout their lives never get put to use properly.
jabs for President '08! (or '12 if you need more time to get ready)
Not that I'm allowed to vote or anything...
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:01 AM two weeks too late
new headline
RACISTS APPLAUD BUSH'S LATE RESPONSE TO BLACK VICTIMS
....Yeah Bomb, but the President stood up and took responsibility for the Governments role in the failures.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:02 AM I hope that when right-wing newscasters say stupid **** you say "****ing conservative idiots".
I don't say it cuz usually no one's around me. But yeah, I'm thinking it, usually when that Hannity guy is on. That guy's a ****in homo-clown. Excuse my language.
Bill O-Reilly seems fair, as do Anderson Cooper and Alan Combs (well, kinda for Combs...he's def not as far-left as Hannity if far-right). Soledad O-Brien is a big leberal *****, totally unprofessional (crying on set after Bush won the re-election).
Dennis Miller is a cool cat too, don't know if his show is still running or not.
jabsRstiff 09-16-2005, 10:04 AM jabs for President '08! (or '12 if you need more time to get ready)
Not that I'm allowed to vote or anything...
Cast a vote for the LOGIC PARTY....& you're casting a vote for me.
Extremists, on both sides, thanks for helping decay our country with your "I wanna be proven correct, even at the expense of the quality of life" approach to politics, & to the lives of our citizens.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:07 AM I think we just need a sensible candidate in '08 who isn't too far on either side, which eliminates Clinton right off the bat. To me, it's either McCain or Guliani. I don't know any more front-runners who might run. There supposedly is this younger white man who is running that someone thought would be a good choice, but I forgot who he is. A governor or senator or some ****.
I almost edited my post and added that...yeah, I can give him and his administration credit for that. I don't know, it's stupid for any side to not take some of the blame since it cuts across all levels, but these pundits jump on TV and play the politics game as soon as its socially acceptable to do so.
...Also Bomb, what do you think the reaction would have been if the New Orleans officials were all white?? Honestly. It would have been a ****ing nightmare and we would never hear the end of it. You have people who are just waiting fo the first thing they see as injustice to throw that race card that they constantly have their hands on.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 10:07 AM I don't say it cuz usually no one's around me. But yeah, I'm thinking it, usually when that Hannity guy is on. That guy's a ****in homo-clown. Excuse my language.
Bill O-Reilly seems fair, as do Anderson Cooper and Alan Combs (well, kinda for Combs...he's def not as far-left as Hannity if far-right). Soledad O-Brien is a big leberal *****, totally unprofessional (crying on set after Bush won the re-election).
Dennis Miller is a cool cat too, don't know if his show is still running or not.
When I worked at the bookstore and we got Hannity's books in I would immediately pack them up and send them back to the vendor. haha, I know, call I censorship if you want. I just thought it was kind of a funny thing to do. It's not like he sells up here much anyway. Guess I was being a bit of an *******...oh well, I can't justify everything I do.
I get tired of most of these news guys. Anderson Cooper at least seems to care about more than grandstanding. To me O'Reilly is all act...when he had his show on CNBC he was much more moderate. I guess he does what sells.
There are plenty of smart people talking/writing/whatever about politics but the sideshows get all the acclaim, unfortunately.
jabsRstiff 09-16-2005, 10:08 AM See, liberals, & ultra-conservatives.....that's what this game is all about. ....whether you are right or wrong.
When the opposition gets elected.....you' WANT them to do a horrible job. You want them to do as you "predicted" .
You are all insecure, weak-minded, & inherently...Anti-American.
I hate all of you....
From the CENTER OF LIFE, baby.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:10 AM O-Reilly is O-Lielly. Hes a straight liar and was exposed to be a voting active republican by Al Franken. Franken did a basic lexis-nexis search and got OReillys voting card. Hes a republican.
I don't say it cuz usually no one's around me. But yeah, I'm thinking it, usually when that Hannity guy is on. That guy's a ****in homo-clown. Excuse my language.
Bill O-Reilly seems fair, as do Anderson Cooper and Alan Combs (well, kinda for Combs...he's def not as far-left as Hannity if far-right). Soledad O-Brien is a big leberal *****, totally unprofessional (crying on set after Bush won the re-election).
Dennis Miller is a cool cat too, don't know if his show is still running or not.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:12 AM I get tired of most of these news guys. Anderson Cooper at least seems to care about more than grandstanding. To me O'Reilly is all act...when he had his show on CNBC he was much more moderate. I guess he does what sells.
Seems as moderate as ever to me. The only thing different I would say is his loudness. He's just louder maybe but it doesn't seem like an act. I think he is a moderate guy who is just irked by far-left politics, and he lets it get to him too much. A lot of us do that though.
O'Reilly has pissed off a lot of Bush' nut-suckers lately, they'll email him tellin him as much. It's funny cuz in one email someone will call him a thoughtless conservative and in the next someone calls him a crazy liberal. Cracks me up everytime.
And yeah Cooper...he did some good reporting in the hurricane.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:12 AM Anderson Cooper is gay too. No lie. Truly gay.
Its funny seeing Fox News play the race card. After Fidel Castro said hes send doctors to black communities in America as well as cheaper agriculture they bashed him saying, hes all about equality but why is his government "all white including himself?" They know damn well Fidel aint white.
I don't say it cuz usually no one's around me. But yeah, I'm thinking it, usually when that Hannity guy is on. That guy's a ****in homo-clown. Excuse my language.
Bill O-Reilly seems fair, as do Anderson Cooper and Alan Combs (well, kinda for Combs...he's def not as far-left as Hannity if far-right). Soledad O-Brien is a big leberal *****, totally unprofessional (crying on set after Bush won the re-election).
Dennis Miller is a cool cat too, don't know if his show is still running or not.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:13 AM O-Reilly is O-Lielly. Hes a straight liar and was exposed to be a voting active republican by Al Franken. Franken did a basic lexis-nexis search and got OReillys voting card. Hes a republican.
Al Franken is far-left, and he's a total tool; it's no wonder he would see Bill as a conservative even when independent media analysts show Bill to be moderate.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:14 AM OReilly is conservative and when papers call him conservative he seems to get pissed which is funny cause everyones calling him conservative.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:15 AM You dont be a tool. OReilly is a republican and its been proven, please dont deny the fact he is a republican. A moderate or independent isnt a voting republican or conservative.
Al Franken is far-left, and he's a total tool; it's no wonder he would see Bill as a conservative even when independent media analysts show Bill to be moderate.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 10:15 AM ...Also Bomb, what do you think the reaction would have been if the New Orleans officials were all white?? Honestly. It would have been a ****ing nightmare and we would never hear the end of it. You have people who are just waiting fo the first thing they see as injustice to throw that race card that they constantly have their hands on.
Yeah, I know, guys like Jesse Jackson and Farrkhan are up to their usual nonsense and like what always happens they're doing more harm than good. Kanye's just an entertainer, I don't know, if people are taking him too seriously that's a whole other problem altogether.
The thing is thought I still don't think you can dismiss the race issues that come out of this so easily. The fact is that the majority of the people dying and trapped in New Orleans were black, and there's no other way around that. I think the problem is that people look at that and they jump to the easiest and flashiest conclusions: that an evil federal government is deliberately trying to exterminate them, or something. When really the issue a lot more complex.
The thing is that there are a number of cultural, social, and economic issues that explain this stuation that I don't think anyone wants to deal with. On one side you have people crying "racism" and on the other side people are saying "race-baiting". The thing is that the real reasons for why this happening go back years, decades, and are hard to sort out. But they have to be dealt with or else this sort of thing will keep happening and it will keep dividing the country.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 10:17 AM See, liberals, & ultra-conservatives.....that's what this game is all about. ....whether you are right or wrong.
When the opposition gets elected.....you' WANT them to do a horrible job. You want them to do as you "predicted" .
You are all insecure, weak-minded, & inherently...Anti-American.
I hate all of you....
From the CENTER OF LIFE, baby.
You mean the CENTRE OF LIFE.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:18 AM OReilly is conservative and when papers call him conservative he seems to get pissed which is funny cause everyones calling him conservative.
I didn't "deny" anything. It's ppllike you that make politics hard with all your baiting. Just STFU you ass-scab. Damn. You are liberal, and I care not what you say about politics. Franken is far-left and the fact that you'd cite him to support your weak ass arguments means you are far left as well, so obviously you are going to call someone who is moderate an ultra-conservative, which has been proven not to be the case by INDEPENDENT MEDIA ANALYSTS.
You do know the difference between far-left, far-right, and moderate, right...?
And no, "everyone" doesn't call him a conservative, as I just said. All you have to do is read his emails or find truly unbiased analysts to see that. But, you can keep citing the Frankens and Moorers of the world to back you up, if you so wish.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:18 AM A lot of blacks feel the way Jesse Jackson feels. He is their voice. Im just curious as to why this never happened in Florida.
Finally, and honestly do any of you think this would have happened to a predominately white community?
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:19 AM FRANKEN PRODUCED AN ACTUAL COPY OF OREILLYS VOTING CARD. HE CANT DOCTOR THAT AND OREILLYS CARD IS THAT. OREILLYS. ITS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. OREILLY IS A REPUBLICAN.
I didn't "deny" anything. It's ppllike you that make politics hard with all your baiting. Just STFU you ass-scab. Damn. You are liberal, and I care not what you say about politics. Franken is far-left and the fact that you'd cite him to support your weak ass arguments means you are far left as well, so obviously you are going to call someone who is moderate an ultra-conservative, which has been proven not to be the case by INDEPENDENT MEDIA ANALYSTS.
You do know the difference between far-left, far-right, and moderate, right...?
And no, "everyone" doesn't call him a conservative, as I just said. All you have to do is read his emails or find truly unbiased analysts to see that. But, you can keep citing the Frankens and Moorers of the world to back you up, if you so wish.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:20 AM I know everyone doesnt call him a conservative. You have idiots that think hes a liberal which is funny cause he makes sure to put one of them in his mailbag every other day. He isnt fooling me. Hes a republican. Not moderate.
I didn't "deny" anything. It's ppllike you that make politics hard with all your baiting. Just STFU you ass-scab. Damn. You are liberal, and I care not what you say about politics. Franken is far-left and the fact that you'd cite him to support your weak ass arguments means you are far left as well, so obviously you are going to call someone who is moderate an ultra-conservative, which has been proven not to be the case by INDEPENDENT MEDIA ANALYSTS.
You do know the difference between far-left, far-right, and moderate, right...?
And no, "everyone" doesn't call him a conservative, as I just said. All you have to do is read his emails or find truly unbiased analysts to see that. But, you can keep citing the Frankens and Moorers of the world to back you up, if you so wish.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:21 AM A lot of blacks feel the way Jesse Jackson feels. He is their voice. Im just curious as to why this never happened in Florida.
Finally, and honestly do any of you think this would have happened to a predominately white community?
Poverty has a black face in Pensacola too, and there was no problem here. The amin problem in NO was the flood, which no part of the govt was properly prepared to deal with.
But yeah yeah we know, it's all Bush's fault and NO got hosed cuz it's a black town.
Also, the fact that you think Jackson is the voice for blacks today shows how little you know about politics.
A lot of blacks feel the way Jesse Jackson feels. He is their voice. Im just curious as to why this never happened in Florida.
Finally, and honestly do any of you think this would have happened to a predominately white community?
...You mean the rioting, looting, raping, and pillaging? **** no it wouldn't have happened.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 10:22 AM What does far-left mean in the States these days anyway? It's not like anyone is promoting any left-wing policies these days: public health care, increased social assistance, etc. Clinton comes in and cuts welfare spending and people act like he's a socialist :confused: .
Seems like it all comes down to whether or not you say that the Iraq war was a good idea.
Not trying to be critical here, just wondering.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:23 AM I know everyone doesnt call him a conservative. You have idiots that think hes a liberal which is funny cause he makes sure to put one of them in his mailbag every other day. He isnt fooling me. Hes a republican. Not moderate.
NASH, wake your ****** ass UP! Damn, son, how many times I got tp explain this to you. Republicans can be moderate. Just because you are republican that doesn't mean you can't be moderate. Also a democrat doesn't have to be liberal automatically. My mom is dem and she voted for Clinton and Bush. Wake up dude. Damn. Bill is moderate, period end of story. You are not, and therefore you see him as ultra conservative.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:24 AM Yeah cause bush would have had people down there patrolling it.
...You mean the rioting, looting, raping, and pillaging? **** no it wouldn't have happened.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:24 AM What issue is he a moderate on?
NASH, wake your ****** ass UP! Damn, son, how many times I got tp explain this to you. Republicans can be moderate. Just because you are republican that doesn't mean you can't be moderate. Also a democrat doesn't have to be liberal automatically. My mom is dem and she voted for Clinton and Bush. Wake up dude. Damn. Bill is moderate, period end of story. You are not, and therefore you see him as ultra conservative.
SonnyBGood 09-16-2005, 10:25 AM The apology came too late. History will haunt this administration's incompetence in dealing with Iraq and Katrina.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:25 AM I guess hes a moderate republican because he points out faults in Americas war in Iraq.... thats not moderate pal.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:25 AM What does far-left mean in the States these days anyway? It's not like anyone is promoting any left-wing policies these days: public health care, increased social assistance, etc. Clinton comes in and cuts welfare spending and people act like he's a socialist .
Seems like it all comes down to whether or not you say that the Iraq war was a good idea.
Not trying to be critical here, just wondering.
Clinton was a good-guy. The fact of left-wing politics is hairy and covered in ketchup and hot dog grease...it's Michael Moorer's face. Also, Al Franken's face. Hilary Clinton.
Far-right faces would be Hannity and Limbaugh, etc.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:27 AM I guess hes a moderate republican because he points out faults in Americas war in Iraq.... thats not moderate pal.
Now I know you don't watch the show much if at all. Bill has repeatedly criticized the war effort. He mentions all the time how the war is fledging. Bill has repeatedly used the word "disaster" when describing the Iraq situation.
You believe too much what ppl tell you I think. Bill is no conservative.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 10:28 AM Clinton was a good-guy. The fact of left-wing politics is hairy and covered in ketchup and hot dog grease...it's Michael Moorer's face. Also, Al Franken's face. Hilary Clinton.
Far-right faces would be Hannity and Limbaugh, etc.
I hope you guys vote in McCain next election. He seems to be one of the few out there right now who can pull people together. I don't think Hilary would be up to the task.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:29 AM Limbaugh (xtasy popper), OReilly (made his assistant engage in phone sex), Pat Robertson (befriends african dictators, had his own army in liberia protecting a mine that cause many children to be amputated, raped and murdered in 10 years of war) and Arnold the moron of California who calledd fellow black bodybuilders n!ggers and gropes women. These are republicans.
Dems have their probablems too but theyre not playing the moral card like Republicans which makes Republicans open to ridicule.
The apology came too late. History will haunt this administration's incompetence in dealing with Iraq and Katrina.
...Talk to me about Iraq and that whole region in five years. Only time will tell.
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 10:31 AM Alright I'll back to your cracy ass later, nash. See you all later, I gotta go workout.
Gotta keep my butt in shape so I can own in boxing and football.
BYE.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:32 AM By the way Mr. Republican, are you in Iraq? You back this president so much, please tell me this?
...Talk to me about Iraq and that whole region in five years. Only time will tell.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 10:35 AM I don't have a good feeling about Iraq. But stranger things have happened, so you never know. Sometimes things have a way of pulling together fast and working out.
masterdirector 09-16-2005, 10:50 AM Of course it was because most people were black. Only white people who don't want to believe the truth (that most white people are racist) believe otherwise.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 10:52 AM thank you masterdirector. karma plus donation to you.
By the way Mr. Republican, are you in Iraq? You back this president so much, please tell me this?
...No, and I also didn't "volunteer" to join the military. Nobody got drafted and they are being called upon to fight for their country. It's like you choosing to go to a good school and get a good education. One you really really need BTW.
NASH, wake your ****** ass UP! Damn, son, how many times I got tp explain this to you. Republicans can be moderate. Just because you are republican that doesn't mean you can't be moderate. Also a democrat doesn't have to be liberal automatically. My mom is dem and she voted for Clinton and Bush. Wake up dude. Damn. Bill is moderate, period end of story. You are not, and therefore you see him as ultra conservative.
...He don't get it at all and just like a ton of these teenagers and early 20 something kids he is very simple minded and naive.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 11:40 AM Simple minded like that fat republican ***** in my class (older with kids) who was getting her degree in history and wasnt worried about getting a job in this economy bush destroyed.
...He don't get it at all and just like a ton of these teenagers and early 20 something kids he is very simple minded and naive.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 11:40 AM No, no. you really support the war, why arent you over there.
...No, and I also didn't "volunteer" to join the military. Nobody got drafted and they are being called upon to fight for their country. It's like you choosing to go to a good school and get a good education. One you really really need BTW.
No, no. you really support the war, why arent you over there.
.....You have no real point here kid. I also support law and order in the streets but I didn't choose to be a policeman. I also think burning buildings should be doused with water but I didn't choose to be a fireman. I have seen this same idiotic response from more than a few libs like yourself and it makes zero sense. The people that are fighting for our country are doing their job. When you get a job one day you will understand. And no, your little lemonade stand you had a couple of years ago don't count. Neither does cleaning up the puke of your frat brothers,fetching them beers, or whiping their asses after they **** on you.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 11:48 AM I read your first sentence and realize that you were going to write some BS. Youre almost gonna get on that ignore list for wasting my time.
YoungTurk 09-16-2005, 11:58 AM I still do not understand how Bush got re-elected. Wasn't his approval rating less than 50% at the time of the election?
We better be careful. Bush may use the fact that he wasn't really elected in 2000 to try running again in 2008.
I read your first sentence and realize that you were going to write some BS. Youre almost gonna get on that ignore list for wasting my time.
...Come on man you know you read that ****. It was some of my best work BTW. I was supposed to be on your ignore list a long time ago.
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-16-2005, 12:02 PM Bush is a racist. if they
brought back the draft i'll
move to Europe or Mexico. I wont
fight for that redneck Bush.
Bush is a racist. if they
brought back the draft i'll
move to Europe or Mexico. I wont
fight for that redneck Bush.
.....By the time your old enough to get drafted Bush will be out of the whitehouse. Don't worry your little head about things that only adults should be concerned with.
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-16-2005, 12:06 PM .....By the time your old enough to get drafted Bush will be out of the whitehouse. Don't worry your little head about things that only adults should be concerned with.
I will be 17 in march and
18 aint so far away Bushlover.
I will be 17 in march and
18 aint so far away Bushlover.
...**** yeah I'm a Bush lover!!! ANd the President is O.K. too. Hey Tyson, how come you aren't in school?
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-16-2005, 12:09 PM ...**** yeah I'm a Bush lover!!! ANd the President is O.K. too. Hey Tyson, how come you aren't in school?
i cut class all the time.
Bush sucks
i cut class all the time.
Bush sucks
...Why exactly do you cut class? I figured a kid as knowledgeable as you in world politics would be in school every day sharing his worldly views.
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-16-2005, 12:14 PM ...Why exactly do you cut class? I figured a kid as knowledgeable as you in world politics would be in school every day sharing his worldly views.
school is too boring i get
bored too easy because of
my intelligence- its not challenging
enough for me.
YoungTurk 09-16-2005, 12:15 PM You should go to class, Tyson Jr. Why rob yourself of the free education?
school is too boring i get
bored too easy because of
my intelligence- its not challenging
enough for me.
...Yes, by your many posts on these boards I can see that your quite smart indeed. If you don't drop out do you think college will be below you as well? I suspect only an Ivy league school will be able to keep your interest. Have you applied to Yale or Harvard yet?
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-16-2005, 12:20 PM ...Yes, by your many posts on these boards I can see that your quite smart indeed. If you don't drop out do you think college will be below you as well? I suspect only an Ivy league school will be able to keep your interest. Have you applied to Yale or Harvard yet?
no interest in those colleges. i'm
prolly gonna work for my grandpas business
anyway. hes loaded.
YoungTurk 09-16-2005, 12:24 PM I'm not impressed when some people who I've met that have been to Harvard and Princeton. I expected them to be really smart. The very few I met, not so smart. I couldn't believe they even attended college.
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-16-2005, 12:25 PM I'm not impressed when some people who I've met that have been to Harvard and Princeton. I expected them to be really smart. The very few I met, not so smart. I couldn't believe they even attended college.
college dont mean ****- Bill Gates
is a drop out and hes the richest man
in the world.
jabsRstiff 09-16-2005, 12:27 PM no interest in those colleges. i'm
prolly gonna work for my grandpas business
anyway. hes loaded.
Mike....
Gotta say.....
Though you're not nearly the boxer/fighter that your hero Tyson is.....I'm sure you're almost as intelligent as he is.
You can be like Mike.
Mike....
Gotta say.....
Though you're not nearly the boxer/fighter that your hero Tyson is.....I'm sure you're almost as intelligent as he is.
You can be like Mike.
....It doesn't even matter if he gets that education and drops out of high school. This kid has super smart written all over him. He could realisticaly have the IQ of the aristotle(MT) of boxers.
...Looks like they both hauled ass at the same time too. Another thing just occured to me. Someone PM'd me one time and said that Nash told them that he was part black and part Italian. That's exactly what Tyson claims to be.
masterdirector 09-16-2005, 01:16 PM Damn why did Tyson pose for that picture? Obviously he hasn't seen the infamous Klitschkos' ****o picture.
Bombardier 09-16-2005, 01:29 PM ...**** yeah I'm a Bush lover!!! ANd the President is O.K. too. Hey Tyson, how come you aren't in school?
It took me a second to get this. I think it's time for another coffee, obviously I'm a big slow at the moment :) .
Damn why did Tyson pose for that picture? Obviously he hasn't seen the infamous Klitschkos' ****o picture.
...Maybe he has seen it and he is looking for a big Ukranian sausage!!! Or two
Lol999 09-16-2005, 01:52 PM Give you your dues today PBDS, your'e owning some uneducated young asses! Kudos!
Lol
Give you your dues today PBDS, your'e owning some uneducated young asses! Kudos!
Lol
...Thanks my man. It was a pleasure. :)
Super_Lightweight 09-16-2005, 02:08 PM LOL...
Damn, PBDS...you own people so bad that they want to put you on ignore. That's what I call efficiency.
Maybe I will be like you when I grow up. Haha.
:boxing:
masterdirector 09-16-2005, 02:25 PM ...Maybe he has seen it and he is looking for a big Ukranian sausage!!! Or two
If he wanted sausage, he'd join the NFL. All the gay meat a *** could eat.
I know you got your Sunday ticket.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 02:27 PM Hey Pbds, why arent you fighting in Iraq? Please no talk about police or fire fighters this time.
...Thanks my man. It was a pleasure. :)
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 02:27 PM Damn that was some gay as ****o pics the Klit brothers had.
...Maybe he has seen it and he is looking for a big Ukranian sausage!!! Or two
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 02:29 PM You need to get your lies straight.
...Looks like they both hauled ass at the same time too. Another thing just occured to me. Someone PM'd me one time and said that Nash told them that he was part black and part Italian. That's exactly what Tyson claims to be.
If he wanted sausage, he'd join the NFL. All the gay meat a *** could eat.
I know you got your Sunday ticket.
...I still don't understand how in the world a red blooded american theater guy can't appreciate football. :)
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 02:46 PM Have you even been to Texas Stadium Pbds? Its pure crap. Looks terrible outside.
Also, why are you on the Klitschkos nuts? Honestly, is the white boxer thing you like? Cause you're slamming Tyson and Tysons accomplished a hell of a lot more than both brothers will combined.
Hey Pbds, why arent you fighting in Iraq? Please no talk about police or fire fighters this time.
..I thought you didn't read that post? Aren't I supposed to be on ignore? Anyway, three sorry posts in a row will not save you from the schooling your already recieved. It's too late!!! That ship already sailed.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 02:48 PM Thanks for not answering it again.
Also, you cant read. I said you're almost on my list. Never said you were. Get that hooked on phonics. It'll work. Bush is using it, thats why.
Thanks for not answering it again.
Also, you cant read. I said you're almost on my list. Never said you were. Get that hooked on phonics. It'll work. Bush is using it, thats why.
....I answered you already in the post you claim you didn't read. Nash, your retardation knows no bounds. You telling me about hooked on phonics is just precious. lol lol lol
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 02:55 PM As expected you didnt answer the post and made half hearted insults.
....Here is your answer again super genius.
You have no real point here kid. I also support law and order in the streets but I didn't choose to be a policeman. I also think burning buildings should be doused with water but I didn't choose to be a fireman. I have seen this same idiotic response from more than a few libs like yourself and it makes zero sense. The people that are fighting for our country are doing their job. When you get a job one day you will understand. And no, your little lemonade stand you had a couple of years ago don't count. Neither does cleaning up the puke of your frat brothers,fetching them beers, or whiping their asses after they **** on you.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 03:00 PM Im talking about Iraq not police nor firemen. Focus! Take your ADD medications and focus on Iraq! Iraq was in the original question.
Basically your answer boils down to: "I support the war but I wont do **** about it." True marks of a *****. I'll tell you what, I'd join the war in Afghanistan cause I support the war efforts/rebuilding there. You're just like the Klitschkos balls-less. When a challenge comes up you run.
You're a Republican but not Republican enough to got to war. I get ya.
Im talking about Iraq not police nor firemen. Focus! Take your ADD medications and focus on Iraq! Iraq was in the original question.
Basically your answer boils down to: "I support the war but I wont do **** about it." True marks of a *****. I'll tell you what, I'd join the war in Afghanistan cause I support the war efforts/rebuilding there. You're just like the Klitschkos balls-less. When a challenge comes up you run.
You're a Republican but not Republican enough to got to war. I get ya.
....Well wait a minute there dready, why aren't you in Afghanistan then?? You just said you support the effort in Afghanistan and said you would go there but yet you didn't get to skippin. I'm just gonna sit back and watch you continue to own yourself over and over again. Nash, I couldn't even write comedy this good. You are without a doubt the dumbest dude to ever post on these boards. Did you not understand the analogy between professions that people actually select? I swear to god Nash, it would be easier to teach a monkey to speak than to get through your thick head. Morons like you make me very worried for our countries future.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 03:22 PM You supported the Iraq war. I supported the war in Afghanistan. I'm telling you what I'd do in a war I'd support and that is go over there and fight. But you, keep avoiding Iraq like its the measles.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 03:23 PM PS: You're no Jack Frost. Don't do any analogies. We're talking about Iraq, not policemen or firemen.
PS: You're no Jack Frost. Don't do any analogies. We're talking about Iraq, not policemen or firemen.
....Nash Nash Nash(shakes head while holding it down). Man, one of these days I'm gonna reach you son. I would love to sit here and try to get through to you but I gotta get ready to go coach T-ball. I will probably have an easier time communicating with the five and six year olds tonight then I have had with you today.
BLOODSHED 09-16-2005, 04:26 PM Damn, do you teach the people you're coaching Tball with to avoid things that come up?
Mike Tyson Jr. 09-17-2005, 12:21 PM ...Looks like they both hauled ass at the same time too. Another thing just occured to me. Someone PM'd me one time and said that Nash told them that he was part black and part Italian. That's exactly what Tyson claims to be.
i hauled ass cause i had to go
take a ****. anyway you like bush
so much why dont you go fight in Iraq
and put your money where your mouth is.
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