View Full Version : Goldenboy vs PrettyBoy! It may be on!


hectari
09-15-2005, 11:12 AM
Oscar dela hoya may fight the prettyboy floyd, but his fighter sugar shane mosley wants the prettyboy badly now, I guess all the **** talking paid off!

What do you think of oscar wanting to fight pretty boy and winky wright in 2006?

I feel oscar loves the big fights and he can knock out lil floyd at 147. But shane mosley would have a great fight witht he prettyboy.

I dont know but I hope either one of these matches happen.

MetalVomit
09-15-2005, 11:18 AM
I like Oscar and Mosely, but at this point in their careers, I hate to say this......., I think Floyd butchers them. This is coming from a Floyd hater.

!! Mr. Soprano
09-15-2005, 11:35 AM
Mosley could give PBF some trouble..
-he has a solid chin,
-clear size advantage,
-can match speed, skill, and definitely power

EastCoastBoxing
09-15-2005, 11:37 AM
I like Oscar and Mosely, but at this point in their careers, I hate to say this......., I think Floyd butchers them. This is coming from a Floyd hater.
I don't see PBF "butchering" either! That's not to say he can't or won't win, but I will say that both Oscar and Shane are still world class fighters. C'mon, both these guys are still in their early 30's when most fighters are in their prime! I still see big things from both, albeit, Oscar is more focused on promoting these days.

J !
09-15-2005, 11:37 AM
this is poor in my opinion, he should fight Hatotn or Zab, not fighters who havent won a fight of note for years.

really why go and beat up old past it men when you havent proved yourself the best in your present weight class, this is typical of mayweather.

spinksjinx
09-15-2005, 11:40 AM
I dont think Oscar fighting Floyd would ever become a reality....Not as long as Floyd Sr. is in his corner. What is your source?


Mayweather would kill Mosley and DLH at this stage, now rewind when Mosley was at 135 and Dlh at 147. haha yeah right, I think some people forget how great Sugar Shane Mosley was at 135...He was being hailed as the Next Sugar Ray and he seemed like he would have lived up to it to....Keyword though is "seemed"

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 11:41 AM
A fight with Oscar can give him waaaaaaaaaaaay more money than the rest of them and equivalent, if not better props in terms of legacy (if he wins)..
Plus it will do wonders for his popularity.

What makes Mosley want Mayweather now anyway?

m00ks
09-15-2005, 11:41 AM
this is all talk from DLH. He's using his name to stir up some interest but the fight will never happen. Maybe Mosely but not him.

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 11:42 AM
I think Oscar's handpseed and power can cause some problems for Floyd Mayweather.

TheEvilSaint
09-15-2005, 11:42 AM
dont count on it.

zab vs floyd was too good to be true, and i was right.

floyd vs mosely or floyd vs DLH is also too good to be true.

i seriously doubt that either of these fights will happen.

J !
09-15-2005, 11:43 AM
I think Oscar's handpseed and power can cause some problems for Floyd Mayweather.


maybe 3 years ago.

druth
09-15-2005, 11:46 AM
Oscar and Mosley both definitely have the skill to compete with Mayweather. Mayweather is just too damn fast, thought. Both of these guys are past their primes, however I'm sure both of them have one great fight left in them.

At this point, Mayweather on points, but he better not get caught on the chin by either one of them.

spinksjinx
09-15-2005, 11:50 AM
dont count on it.

zab vs floyd was too good to be true, and i was right.



Zab vs Floyd is a **** fight to me, Zab looks good against B competition but he hasnt done or showed anything to gain recognition of making a fight with Floyd competitive.

hectari
09-15-2005, 11:51 AM
I dont think Oscar fighting Floyd would ever become a reality....Not as long as Floyd Sr. is in his corner. What is your source?


Mayweather would kill Mosley and DLH at this stage, now rewind when Mosley was at 135 and Dlh at 147. haha yeah right, I think some people forget how great Sugar Shane Mosley was at 135...He was being hailed as the Next Sugar Ray and he seemed like he would have lived up to it to....Keyword though is "seemed"


maxboxing.

But you guys have to understand floyd is not that much younger then them! he is only about 2 years younger.

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 11:54 AM
maybe 3 years ago.

So you think Oscar lost it completely and is slow now?

Where would you get an idea like that from? His last two matches where he was completely outsized?

I think Oscar can be a problem for anyone, especially when he's the bigger man.

spinksjinx
09-15-2005, 11:54 AM
maxboxing.

But you guys have to understand floyd is not that much younger then them! he is only about 2 years younger.


Yes but neither fighter is in their prime and have fallen off tremendously. I mean Shane struggled with Estrada, not to discredit Estrada but I mean he should have made easy work with him. De la hoya was doing fine against Bernard up until the stoppage but I mean his last hurrah was against Vargas. I dont think we will ever see De la hoya be the same fighter again. The weight and the age will get to him.

Mayweather might be close in age but he is far superior at this stage then the other fighters....His speed alone defeats anyone in the are of 130-147.

RAESAAD
09-15-2005, 11:58 AM
DLH still has 3-5 good big fights in him IMO.I see him giving PBF fits if they were to fight I mean he held his own quite wel against B-Hop before getting hit with that body shot and he is far bigger than PBF than PBF.

J !
09-15-2005, 11:59 AM
So you think Oscar lost it completely and is slow now?

Where would you get an idea like that from? His last two matches where he was completely outsized?

I think Oscar can be a problem for anyone, especially when he's the bigger man.


i very much doubt he will fight again mate.

sorry if that hurts your feelings but thats the way it is.

Im not having a pop at Oscar here its ****ing mayweather hopping weights before he has cleaned the division out. AGAIN.

either way its ove two years since Shane or oscar won a fight against a legit top class foe. Hardly ideal to go in agianst the P4P number one.

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 12:01 PM
I think if Oscar can effectively fight like the bigger boxer, he can frustrate Mayweather.

It's funny, because if we would have asked this question in the beginning of this year, alot of you wouldn't have said the same thing.

J !
09-15-2005, 12:01 PM
DLH still has 3-5 good big fights in him IMO.I see him giving PBF fits if they were to fight I mean he held his own quite wel against B-Hop before getting hit with that body shot and he is far bigger than PBF than PBF.


what like gatti? get real.
Id love someone to give the little gob****e a kicking but it wont be either of these two old men.

hectari
09-15-2005, 12:02 PM
Yes but neither fighter is in their prime and have fallen off tremendously. I mean Shane struggled with Estrada, not to discredit Estrada but I mean he should have made easy work with him. De la hoya was doing fine against Bernard up until the stoppage but I mean his last hurrah was against Vargas. I dont think we will ever see De la hoya be the same fighter again. The weight and the age will get to him.

Mayweather might be close in age but he is far superior at this stage then the other fighters....His speed alone defeats anyone in the are of 130-147.


ya what I dont get is how can a fighter fall of so fast! is it a mental thing? does it have to do with hunger or their heart not being in it any more? cause mosley and oscar still have the speed and skills but I think they lost the hunger.

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 12:02 PM
i very much doubt he will fight again mate.

sorry if that hurts your feelings but thats the way it is.

Im not having a pop at Oscar here its ****ing mayweather hopping weights before he has cleaned the division out. AGAIN.

either way its ove two years since Shane or oscar won a fight against a legit top class foe. Hardly ideal to go in agianst the P4P number one.

He did it before?

If he has no big name in the 140lbs. division who wants to fight him right now, why can't he seek a bigger fight, what's so wrong about that?

Another question. Why can't those fighters at 140 meet him in another division, what would be the problem with that?

hectari
09-15-2005, 12:03 PM
DLH still has 3-5 good big fights in him IMO.I see him giving PBF fits if they were to fight I mean he held his own quite wel against B-Hop before getting hit with that body shot and he is far bigger than PBF than PBF.


Everyone knows OSCAR would have beat B hop, but oscar threw the fight he had a deal with bernard already! that wasnt a body shot for **** b hops punch hit oscars elbow.

J !
09-15-2005, 12:03 PM
cotto hatton arent big enough names then?

i mean he has fought a genuiine 140ilber at the top of his game yet, branco and ****ing past it Arturo.

and yes he did it before check his record.

!! Mr. Soprano
09-15-2005, 12:07 PM
Guys,

As much as I hate saying this, Oscars interest as a boxer has reached a dead end.. The begining is Oscar as the promoter... He's in it for the money..
and all this hype is created to get his name out there

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Honestly speaking, you only hold a point for the 140lb. argument. Had he stayed at 130lbs. he would be the Bernard Hopkins of that division.

As far as what you said about Cotto and Hatton, they don't want to fight him yet.

Which leads to my first question. If the big names at 140lbs. don't want to fight him right now. Why can't he keep himself occupied fighting bigger names at different divisions and take care of them later?

He already said that one way or another he's going to beat up Cotto, because he's not going to leave unfinished business.

!! Mr. Soprano
09-15-2005, 12:11 PM
I think some people forget how great Sugar Shane Mosley was at 135...He was being hailed as the Next Sugar Ray and he seemed like he would have lived up to it to....Keyword though is "seemed"
I'm not a mosley fan, but come on...

He went to a MJ with a much bigger and now P4P#2 Wright!

Mosley is alright... just out of career luck :eek:

RAESAAD
09-15-2005, 12:12 PM
Everyone knows OSCAR would have beat B hop, but oscar threw the fight he had a deal with bernard already! that wasnt a body shot for **** b hops punch hit oscars elbow.
I don't know that.I disagree he hit him clearly,now whether it hurt as bad as it looked who knows.

RoboHobo
09-15-2005, 12:13 PM
Mosley could give PBF some trouble..
-he has a solid chin,
-clear size advantage,
-can match speed, skill, and definitely power
haha well heres my mosley - pbf verdict

size mosley
chin pbf
speed pbf
skill pbf
power pbf

pbf ud

and my winky - pbf verdict

size wright
chin same
speed pbf
skill pbf
power pbf

pbf md

Manny_P
09-15-2005, 12:14 PM
How come ta 140lbs division is so ****in gay? You got all ta fightas there. Different stype of styles and yet no ****in fights. Is there a Don King there that prevents top dawgs from fightin top dawgs? What ta ****?! IT's jest so gay that Weatha is, wanna move up to fight sumone else when you got plenty of good oppositions at 140lbs!

jack_the_rippuh
09-15-2005, 12:21 PM
Television Networks, promotors, and location causing all the problems

hectari
09-15-2005, 12:22 PM
How come ta 140lbs division is so ****in gay? You got all ta fightas there. Different stype of styles and yet no ****in fights. Is there a Don King there that prevents top dawgs from fightin top dawgs? What ta ****?! IT's jest so gay that Weatha is, wanna move up to fight sumone else when you got plenty of good oppositions at 140lbs!


Its not the division its the fighters who are acting scared! they know all the talent their and still they wanna fight bums!

thats why my favorite division are feather and superfeather.

rsl
09-15-2005, 12:57 PM
How come ta 140lbs division is so ****in gay? You got all ta fightas there. Different stype of styles and yet no ****in fights. Is there a Don King there that prevents top dawgs from fightin top dawgs? What ta ****?! IT's jest so gay that Weatha is, wanna move up to fight sumone else when you got plenty of good oppositions at 140lbs!Welcome to the world of business and politics, what fans want is at the bottom of their list.

IwatchBoxing
09-15-2005, 01:39 PM
Cottos new to boxing, Hatton just beat the top fighter at 140, Mayweather just beat Gatti(LOL), fights will come, they are just placing themselfs for a unification hopefuly, Hatton will have two belts by the end of the year, and both Mayweather and Cotto will have one, there might even be a torniment like Trinidad/Hopkins/Joppy ect if we'er lucky...

BLOODSHED
09-15-2005, 01:41 PM
Damn Morales just looked at the punch. Didnt even duck.

IwatchBoxing
09-15-2005, 01:43 PM
Damn Morales just looked at the punch. Didnt even duck.
How I see the clip, Raheem was syking Morales out, you can see Morales hoping to Raheem which sets him up for the punch, right when Morales is in mid air Raheem winds the punch....than Morales walked into it.

!! Mr. Soprano
09-15-2005, 02:16 PM
haha well heres my mosley - pbf verdict

size mosley
chin pbf
speed pbf
skill pbf
power pbf

pbf ud

Anusmind,

I pretty sure that PBF beat Mosley... what I said is that at this point, he should be a tougher match.

Mosley has KO all but 5 out of the 40 wins that he has.. 2 of those 5 are with ODLH, who's chin is 'un-kayoable' especially at 130-154lb
Was Mosley EVER in trouble, or lost by a knock out? But he obviously faced bigger guys (De La Hoya, Wright, Forrest) than PBF

What makes you think that PBF has more power and a better chin than Mosley? It's a Joke!

Again, you're forgetting that Mosley himself is a fast and a technical fighter.
I'm really not a fan, but I believe he's been underrated and kept in the quite all of his career

Tha_Greatest
09-15-2005, 02:50 PM
Oscar dela hoya may fight the prettyboy floyd, but his fighter sugar shane mosley wants the prettyboy badly now, I guess all the **** talking paid off!

What do you think of oscar wanting to fight pretty boy and winky wright in 2006?

I feel oscar loves the big fights and he can knock out lil floyd at 147. But shane mosley would have a great fight witht he prettyboy.

I dont know but I hope either one of these matches happen.
No these fights are never ever, ever, ever, ever ,ever gonna happen.We heard Floyd is supposed to get Hatton, Tsyzu, Wright, Judah, Casamayor, any better caliber fighter. Ive said all these fights were never gonna happen.Once Again, Mosley and Floyd, or Oscar and Floyd, none of these good fights will ever, ever ,ever ,ever gonna happen. Its a guarantee, Probably, Floyd will get a rematch with Tony Bruseles before he fights anymone good.

Super_Lightweight
09-15-2005, 03:04 PM
Oscar has the skills to KO Floyd. It's his mentality that has to be questioned. Would he be willing to have a rough camp, get off his silk sheets every morning and handle business?

If not, Floyd could make him a fool. But, if DLH trains hard (like he did for Vargas) and FIGHTS THE RIGHT FIGHT, he can win with shocking ease. The right fight means bullying Floyd big-time, like Castillo did.

However, it's not out of the question with DLH's size for him to win from the outside.

AintGottaClue
09-15-2005, 03:06 PM
Prime Oscar does his job and makes floyd's daddy happy be kicking his sons ass, DLH hasnt fought in a hwile and is last fight was at middleweight, nobody knows how he will preform now so we have to wait, and floyd beats sugar shane at this point,

guru
09-15-2005, 03:15 PM
i like shane's chances... he just fought a tough fight with winky at 154, he lost but made a good showing... i think he'd be hell for floyd at 147... i also think floyd is pushing to fight at 147...

Eman
09-15-2005, 05:08 PM
I would like to see oscar fight a tune up. If oscar comes back and takes on pbf i think he loses 100%. Shane doesnt look as good as he once was so i would give both fights to Mayweather

SAN D13GO VILLAN
09-15-2005, 05:25 PM
I think both oscar and mosley would knock out prettyboy!!!!!!!! mayweather only looks good vs brawlers like gatti,corrales and castillo, even dough castillo beat him in their first fight.

MetalVomit
09-15-2005, 05:27 PM
I don't see PBF "butchering" either! That's not to say he can't or won't win, but I will say that both Oscar and Shane are still world class fighters. C'mon, both these guys are still in their early 30's when most fighters are in their prime! I still see big things from both, albeit, Oscar is more focused on promoting these days.


I hope you're right.

Foldem4me
09-15-2005, 05:34 PM
this is poor in my opinion, he should fight Hatotn or Zab, not fighters who havent won a fight of note for years.

really why go and beat up old past it men when you havent proved yourself the best in your present weight class, this is typical of mayweather.
If he wanted to get a huge payday PBF would take the fights with either Sugar Shane or Oscar. I'd prefer to see him fight Shane. That would be worth paying to go see live.

Londonerz
09-15-2005, 06:33 PM
i think sugar shane wins this fight....i think he is just too big and strong for mayweather.....

tino
09-15-2005, 06:43 PM
castillo was too strong and bullyed floyd in the first fight .

look at DLH , he is WAY bigger than castillo and faster . plus he has the jab and left hook to punish floyd from the outside .

clear UD or late rounds stoppage for oscar even with a ****ty training camp .

RoboHobo
09-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Anusmind,

I pretty sure that PBF beat Mosley... what I said is that at this point, he should be a tougher match.

Mosley has KO all but 5 out of the 40 wins that he has.. 2 of those 5 are with ODLH, who's chin is 'un-kayoable' especially at 130-154lb
Was Mosley EVER in trouble, or lost by a knock out? But he obviously faced bigger guys (De La Hoya, Wright, Forrest) than PBF

What makes you think that PBF has more power and a better chin than Mosley? It's a Joke!

Again, you're forgetting that Mosley himself is a fast and a technical fighter.
I'm really not a fan, but I believe he's been underrated and kept in the quite all of his career
mosley wasnt in trouble when forrest almost killed him