View Full Version : Lorenzo Fertitta: Who Wants Bones Vs Silva?


Dorian
03-20-2011, 03:12 AM
Via Twitter. Since GSP will duck Silva, why not?

'Sugar' Freddi
03-20-2011, 03:14 AM
What's your twitter?

Dorian
03-20-2011, 03:15 AM
Don't have twitter (yet?)

http://twitter.com/lorenzofertitta

BoxingTech718
03-20-2011, 03:25 AM
AS would win. AS is Bones with experience. Bones needs a couple of fights before that one. He's good but AS is in a class of his own. If I was GSP I would duck Silva too. Can't blame him, he has no responsibility to move up.

led
03-20-2011, 04:20 AM
I dont know if I am becoming a bandwagoner but I think Silva got a big problem against Jones. If Silva has difficulty against Sonnen, how could he fight Jones when it comes to the ground?

And if its LHW he is adding weight and we dont really know how he woulld fare there when the fighte he fought there is Griffin, a fading fighter and Irvin, a fighter who's only skill is his power.

-Swizzy-
03-20-2011, 02:25 PM
nobody at 205 and down has a chance against Jones... including Silva.

Silva's fights against Sonnen and Takase shows a big weakness on the ground. Jones is a beast on the ground and he would exploit Silva pretty easy.

Only fighters that can beat Jones are in the HW division.

Las Vegas,
03-20-2011, 02:28 PM
nobody at 205 and down has a chance against Jones... including Silva.

Silva's fights against Sonnen and Takase shows a big weakness on the ground. Jones is a beast on the ground and he would exploit Silva pretty easy.

Only fighters that can beat Jones are in the HW division.

I agree, it'd still be a huge fight though. I'd order it. If Jones does decide to move up, he has to deal with Cain. I feel Cain will run through him.

hayZ
03-20-2011, 03:00 PM
I'd prefer that fight over gsp vs silva...GSP isn't big enough imo to cause silva problems.

Ether
03-20-2011, 03:10 PM
I'd prefer this, over GSP/Silva.

Silva by KO.

ƒallenloki
03-20-2011, 03:44 PM
nobody at 205 and down has a chance against Jones... including Silva.

Silva's fights against Sonnen and Takase shows a big weakness on the ground. Jones is a beast on the ground and he would exploit Silva pretty easy.

Only fighters that can beat Jones are in the HW division.

Go away, bandwagoner.
:lame:

New England
03-20-2011, 03:53 PM
nobody at 205 and down has a chance against Jones... including Silva.

Silva's fights against Sonnen and Takase shows a big weakness on the ground. Jones is a beast on the ground and he would exploit Silva pretty easy.

Only fighters that can beat Jones are in the HW division.



lol as much as i loath agreeing with somebody who has a "slim shady" avatar


you hit this one on the head.


jones is a monsterous 205 lb man who gets to that weight by the grace of god

he'll be a big heavyweight when he gets there.


jones could easily go down at the best LHW of all time in the UFC if he has a lengthy tenure there

it's a young sport
nobody's come up with a gameplan to take on a huge, strong, freak of an athlete with concrete in his elbows and knees who can wrestle at the world class.


the worst matchup i can think of for jones would be a prime randy couture at 205 or maybe 215

low single to the ground
or just a gravity game on the fence where the lower, better wrestler is going to win
boring decision

BALLISTIC
03-20-2011, 03:59 PM
i would pay to see this....

kaps
03-20-2011, 04:04 PM
Jones would just wrestle**** the **** out of Silva. LOL @ GSP ducking Silva, you do realize that Silva would be around 220 on fight night and GSP would be around 190 right? I guess size doesn't make a difference. Overeem is ducking Frankie Edgar because he wont cut down too 155....

_original_
03-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Unlike Rua, I think Silva would be able to connect with his strikes and kicks. Jones is great, but let's not overrate him that much yet, people are acting like he would blow Silva out.

BALLISTIC
03-20-2011, 04:07 PM
if the fight stays stand up i'm gonna go with silva due to his striking..

on the ground jones to big for silva..and would win a UD

Unknown Champ
03-20-2011, 08:05 PM
Unlike Rua, I think Silva would be able to connect with his strikes and kicks. Jones is great, but let's not overrate him that much yet, people are acting like he would blow Silva out.

No lets get it right, i said it from the start and had it in my sig Jones > Silva. Bet your points boy

ƒallenloki
03-20-2011, 08:08 PM
Jones would just wrestle**** the **** out of Silva. LOL @ GSP ducking Silva, you do realize that Silva would be around 220 on fight night and GSP would be around 190 right? I guess size doesn't make a difference. Overeem is ducking Frankie Edgar because he wont cut down too 155....

220?

You can't be serious. Anderson is not going to cut then rehydrate 35 pounds over night. That's STUPID. That's not even possible.

Anderson would probably have a 10-15 pound weight advantage on fight night. That said, though... I don't blame GSP for not wanting to fight Anderson. He has plenty to do at 170... Jon Fitch again, Thiago Alves again, Shields, Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit. (Martin Kampmann would be up there if he had gotten the nod he deserved in the last two).

M Deezy
03-20-2011, 10:03 PM
hahaha u truly think silva hydrating from 185 to 220 in overnight? lol

lebrick
03-21-2011, 06:18 AM
i would say shogun rematch would be the best. that first knee strike is what changed the outcome so quickly. Imagine if it's rua who connected first, the jones hype wouldn't be flooding this forum..

any 205lber being kneed on that situation same as shogun would be dreaming on lalaland. pride is what shogun had left when he was hit with that knee.. i knew it was over when that first strike landed.

Clegg
03-21-2011, 11:34 AM
Silva has shown himself to be better on his back than Jones has, considering that Jones has never been put there. Also, Silva defeated Dan Henderson (Olympic wrestler) and several other top wrestlers and BJJ guys, plus he has improved a great deal since his submission defeats, so let's not pretend that he's not a highly skilled ground fighter.

Sonnen did have success, but he was on roids, Silva's injury may or may not have played a part, and Sonnen ended up tapping. Also, Sonnen's approach on the ground was to use short punches and elbows, which make it harder for the guy on the bottom to catch you with an armbar, triangle or omoplata. Jones on the other hand throws full punches, which can often end badly for the guy on top (see Werdum-Fedor or 100 other fights).

Not saying that Silva would tap Jones, but let's not be so dismissive of his grappling eh?

kaps
03-21-2011, 11:39 AM
220?

You can't be serious. Anderson is not going to cut then rehydrate 35 pounds over night. That's STUPID. That's not even possible.

Anderson would probably have a 10-15 pound weight advantage on fight night. That said, though... I don't blame GSP for not wanting to fight Anderson. He has plenty to do at 170... Jon Fitch again, Thiago Alves again, Shields, Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit. (Martin Kampmann would be up there if he had gotten the nod he deserved in the last two).

hahaha u truly think silva hydrating from 185 to 220 in overnight? lol

It's not that hard, in wrestling I used to put on 10 or 15 lbs in a matter of hours after making weight. At the Silva vs Irvin press conference Silva said he usually walks around at 220/225.....

Clegg
03-21-2011, 11:41 AM
The weight you walk around at is different to the weight you fight at though.

Is Silva-GSP not happening then?

ƒallenloki
03-21-2011, 01:17 PM
^^^^^
Yup.

I highly doubt you had an easy fifteen pound cut unless you were in your early teens... or fat.

-Swizzy-
03-21-2011, 11:29 PM
Go away, bandwagoner.
:lame:

bandwagoner ok...........


I don't even like Jones. But FYI, I've known Jones was gonna be a champ ever since the Bonnar fight.

mic573
03-21-2011, 11:45 PM
Jones is a big problem for Silva. If Silva can't keep Jones from taking him down then Jones will win easy.

After thinking about it, I still believe GSP is an overall better fighter than Silva but I do believe that Silva might just be too big and I believe that would be the reason he would beat GSP. If both were in the same division naturally I believe GSP beats Silva with rather ease.

Besides they really wouldn't be giving GSP enough time to move up properly. I say GSP should take at least a year to move up and fighter other 185 fighter before stepping in with Silva. That would be the only way to make it fair. We are talking about a 15 lb jump in weight. That's not as easy as say 5 pounds.

Chael_Sonnen
03-24-2011, 06:05 PM
I want Silva. He owes me that much.

Jack3d
03-24-2011, 07:41 PM
I'll tell you who doesn't want it. His name is Anderson Silva. He's made it clear in several recent interview that he has no intention of moving up to 205. I guess unless he's getting tailor made opponents he's not moving up to fight anybody.

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/3/23/2068619/anderson-silva-does-not-want-to-fight-at-205-again

And people say GSP is scared. At least GSP is open about fighting once he gains some weight. Anderson's like "nope, no thanks"

AKATheMack
03-27-2011, 02:06 PM
I'll tell you who doesn't want it. His name is Anderson Silva. He's made it clear in several recent interview that he has no intention of moving up to 205. I guess unless he's getting tailor made opponents he's not moving up to fight anybody.

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/3/23/2068619/anderson-silva-does-not-want-to-fight-at-205-again

And people say GSP is scared. At least GSP is open about fighting once he gains some weight. Anderson's like "nope, no thanks"

Since when are fighters required to move up in weight? This isnt boxing either with only a couple pounds between divisions we're talking about 20lbs. You sound like an uneducated dick.

Jack3d
03-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Since when are fighters required to move up in weight? This isnt boxing either with only a couple pounds between divisions we're talking about 20lbs. You sound like an uneducated dick.

Anderson walks around (according to him) at 225-230lbs. It's hardly a drastic cut. If anything it would probably be an easier cut.

I just find it to be a huge double standard that GSP is a coward for not moving up to MW because they think he's some gigantic WW, but give Anderson a free pass to duck top fighters at LHW in which he can clearly make the weight and be competitive.

The reality is this:

GSP says he'll move up when he gains the weight, he's never completely dismissed a superfight with Anderson.

But when Anderson is asked about a superfight with Jon Jones, he's says straight up that he doesn't want anything to do with 205.

It think it's pretty clear who is the duck here

Clegg
03-27-2011, 08:02 PM
My view on it is that a fighter shouldn't have to move up in wieght but

1. It's a shame that BJ Penn and Hendo are the only guys with the stones to have done it consistently.
2. Silva was happy to fight at 205 against guys picked to make him look good. So I think some criticism can be offered if he won't do so against a real challenge.

Neither Anderson or GSP have any real challenges left in their division. It's understandable that fans want them to test themselves and take risks rather than face people that everyone expects them to dominate.

Move BRICKS
03-27-2011, 08:47 PM
My view on it is that a fighter shouldn't have to move up in wieght but

1. It's a shame that BJ Penn and Hendo are the only guys with the stones to have done it consistently.
2. Silva was happy to fight at 205 against guys picked to make him look good. So I think some criticism can be offered if he won't do so against a real challenge.

Neither Anderson or GSP have any real challenges left in their division. It's understandable that fans want them to test themselves and take risks rather than face people that everyone expects them to dominate.

I disagree, now with the acquisition of Strikeforce there are plenty of interesting match ups for every UFC champ.

Clegg
03-27-2011, 08:53 PM
I disagree, now with the acquisition of Strikeforce there are plenty of interesting match ups for every UFC champ.

Dana said in an interview that they won't be doing those kind of match-ups and to not expect champion vs champion fights.

Don't get me wrong, I realise that the guy talks BS all the time and things can always change, but at the moment there's no way of knowing if or when we'll see UFC vs Strikeforce fights.