View Full Version : Just How Good is Sergio Martinez?


BigStereotype
03-17-2011, 12:53 AM
I really love this guy, he's a hell of a fighter. But how do you guys think he stacks up as an ATG? He's started a little late, but he's working overtime to make up for lost time...could he be on a respectable ATG list when all is said and done?

ny123
03-17-2011, 01:00 AM
He has some impressive wins lately but i dont know if he has enough solid comp left to improve his legacy.

BigStereotype
03-17-2011, 01:29 AM
Yeah, you might be right. There's still Dmitry Pirog...damn. I wish this guy had some more Paul Williamses to beat. Gotta love that Power Rangers boss-fight **** he pulls when he's got a KO where he turns before the guy is even down.

SCtrojansbaby
03-17-2011, 01:30 AM
He is an all time great talent, he might have the 2nd or 3rd best combination of power/handspeed I have ever seen from a middleweight.

BigStereotype
03-17-2011, 01:32 AM
He is an all time great talent, he might have the 2nd best combination of power/handspeed I have ever seen from a middleweight.

I know you're gonna say Roy as number one and I might (might) agree but you're forgetting about Ray Robinson, who made a habit of one-punching guys much bigger than he.

SCtrojansbaby
03-17-2011, 02:00 AM
I know you're gonna say Roy as number one and I might (might) agree but you're forgetting about Ray Robinson, who made a habit of one-punching guys much bigger than he.


I was talking about what I consider modern boxing(last 40 years or so)

BigStereotype
03-17-2011, 02:01 AM
I was talking about what I consider modern boxing(last 40 years or so)

Alright, then yeah. Martinez is definitely up there as far as middleweight pure punchers go.

F A R L A P
03-17-2011, 02:15 AM
If Martinez wants to be rememberd for more than a couple of good fights he needs to keep it up. Quality fights with quality competition.

As brilliant as he has been to watch, I can't see him achieving all time great status. People have damn high expectations now, he could start looking real average, real soon.

Holtol
03-17-2011, 02:19 AM
He has looked beatable in all the fights of his I have seen. But he finds a way to win and his fights are entertaining.

Would not be surprised if Pirog beat him. Having a close fight with Williams which I thought he won, behined in a fight to an alcoholic version of Pavlik, plus the amount he gets hit, makes me wonder how long he can keep up his winning ways.

Steak
03-17-2011, 02:23 AM
decent, but not a legendary middleweight champ.

I dont consider him better than Nunn, for example.

although he can change that...but hes going to have to get his ass in gear if he is, hes already 36, aint he?

The_Demon
03-17-2011, 07:06 AM
I think he is good,really good actually.I have been a little critical of him in the past but i am sold of him now,he doesnt have the greatest defence but he always has his hands low so that is too be expected,i like his style though,i find it refreshing and he seems very relaxed and genuinely looks like he is enjoying what he is doing,he is finally getting the recognitition he deserves and you can tell he appreciates that,he is exciting in a way that other fighters arent nowadays,even with the great manny pacquioa it seems he is just going through the motions in his recent fights,Martinez is a welcome change

As for becoming an ATG middleweight,i cant see it,he doesnt have the competition and for a guy that uses so much movement it will be difficult too maintain his ability as he has entered the elite scene so late,still i think he will take on all comers and will most likely beat them in entertaining fights,i for one will be looking forward too his next outing very much

IronDanHamza
03-17-2011, 08:02 AM
He's not an ATG fighter and with 3 fights at MW he's obviously not an ATG Middleweight.

He could be but at 36 I doubt it.

New England
03-17-2011, 09:20 AM
he's one of boxing's best late bloomers that i can remember

if he began in the amateurs as a boy and competed internationally in his teens there's no telling how good he might be with his extra experience


all that being said, he didnt really become a power puncher until he matured and moved up to MW
or at least he didnt fight that way

so we cant tell if his boxing talents were late to bloom as well


for a vulnerable fighter with flaws and a relative lack of experience at the top he finds a way to win
and these days to drop that left hand on some dudes chin


he's freakishly athletic
and he's stringing some good wins together late in his career


but that alone does not an ATG resume make

he's like glen johnson
without the doubt digit losses, or many of the big wins johnson has racked up
only with a surplus of talent that's put him on the p4p board



and finally
i'd pick him to lose to greb
hopkins
monzon
hagler
robinson

all via knockout, in their respective primes.

The Surgeon
03-19-2011, 04:26 PM
The guy is for real, he can fight. And boy is he quick. I think he's beatable but that makes his fights more entertaining. There are potential fights with Pirog, Cotto, Pac, Mayweather and ***** who knows Bute, Ward, Froch those type of guys too so there is definately room for him ,if everything falls into place and goes well, to make a serious run at an ATG list.

I dont feel he's overly special tho myself just very very good!

bojangles1987
03-20-2011, 06:40 AM
Because of his age, he would have to either stick around far past when most boxers do or get a LOT done in the next two or three years, and even then he probably couldn't make an ATG list. He is very good, but you do have to put his opponents in perspective. Good enough to beat probably all the middleweights, and definitely beat anyone at 154.

He fights like a poor man's Roy Jones to me.

The Surgeon
03-20-2011, 07:47 AM
He fights like a poor man's Roy Jones to me.

Theres a bit of truth to that bojangles.

Worth noting tho that a poor mans Roy Jones can still be a VERY Good fighter

bojangles1987
03-20-2011, 06:00 PM
Theres a bit of truth to that bojangles.

Worth noting tho that a poor mans Roy Jones can still be a VERY Good fighter

Absolutely. When Roy Jones is one of the greatest ever to do it, a poor man's RJ will still be a damn good fighter, and Sergio is. Honestly, unless there's someone I'm completely overlooking Sergio is the first fighter I've seen fight like Jones and pull it off.