Who wins this fight, how and why?

I'd like to hear some opinions on this. Actually I'd love to see this fight when I think about it.

I'll weigh-in after you guys have had a say.

calzaghe probably cant even beat jeramin taylor...i see him getting knocked out by tarver

antonio. he's much craftier and although he's a slow starter but he does a lot of things that don't look pretty but work and his defense is underrated. he's also the much naturally bigger guy (tarver walks around 195+ according to buddy).

joe in his prime had some decent speed and great power..but at 168.he does tend to swing a bit and leaves him open. this is bad news especially if you are fighting a counter puncher like tarver.but i wouldn't take a prime calzage lightly...

i see it like this. joe starts off strong in the early rounds. tarver gets in a few exchanges but not enough to win them. in the middle rounds he starts to tag joe with left hand counters and uses his reach to keep him off and move to the side. late rounds tarver catches him more and finishes strong to grab the UD. tarver by UD 7-5

this one is all tarver, ud or late round tko

Tarver in ma opinion. I'd say by late TKO.

two overrated guys...i think tarver wins agianst calzahge, but i'd rather see lacy beat the **** out of tarver

Cal***gie wont even fight Lacy...why would he ever fight Tarver...EArly KO for Tarver...And I also Think Tarver would beat LAcy by UD...His Defense is to good for Lacy...And hes a 6'2 southpaw Boxer against a 5'9 Brawler...Tarver Beats both IMO But he def KOs Cal***gie early if he catches him... :boxing:

First off let me say Tarver is not overated. ANd he would kill Cal***ie.

What in his last few fights has given ppl the impression that he could come on strong in the end?

tarver would school calzaghe in something called "fighting". calzaghe's never done that before.

Tarver by mid-round KO.

I don't really like Tarver all that much, but I would say cueball wins it by a mid-round KO over the 'great white dope' Calzaghe.

Tarver beats Calzaghe easily.

Calzaghe would cripple Tarver with that broken hand...

http://www.frankwarren.tv/fw4/picturegallary/uploads/Joe%20Calzaghe/CDF_Calzaghe_Hand03.jpg

I'd have to go with Calzaghe on points. Calzaghe would drag Tarver into a war and I would imagine the scores would read something like 117-112

I know a lot of you are pissed off with Joe at the moment because the fight with Lacy has been put back, but Calzaghe is a quality fighter... If he was as bad as some of you are saying, then why would Jeff Lacy bother fighting him?

I'd have to go with Calzaghe on points. Calzaghe would drag Tarver into a war and I would imagine the scores would read something like 117-112

I know a lot of you are pissed off with Joe at the moment because the fight with Lacy has been put back, but Calzaghe is a quality fighter... If he was as bad as some of you are saying, then why would Jeff Lacy bother fighting him?

Good post and I agree.

The guys in my avatar could all beat the **** out of Joe Calzaghe. Tarver would keep Calzaghe on the outside and beat him easily.

It will be an easy win for Tarver. Tarver by KO.

Tarver would KO Calphony. Any wild swinging fighter going against AT would get peppered & countered by him. Calphony definitely isn't stronger & if he eats some of the left hands that Johnson ate in both fights, he's going down hard. AT has a reach advanatge & would keep him on the end of his jab like he did to Johnson.

for anyone picking joe they have to realise that tarver has a good reach advatange and is naturally bigger than joe. tarver walks around 195+ and loves to counter punch...and take it from a counter puncher, we love guys that swing for the fences.

for anyone picking joe they have to realise that tarver has a good reach advatange and is naturally bigger than joe. tarver walks around 195+ and loves to counter punch...and take it from a counter puncher, we love guys that swing for the fences.
Well Joe's not exactly like Ricardo Mayorga... He's a lot more skillfull than just a wild slugger with power.

He's not the kind of fighter that get's picked off by counter punchers all night long.

He's a very very very good boxer.

Well Joe's not exactly like Ricardo Mayorga... He's a lot more skillfull than just a wild slugger with power.

He's not the kind of fighter that get's picked off by counter punchers all night long.

He's a very very very good boxer.


Calzaghe has yet to beat a fighter as skilled as Tarver, down at 168....but, he's gonna go UP to 175 & outbox/defeat Tarver ?
That's some serious homerism there, martin.

I like Tarver in this one

Calzaghe has yet to beat a fighter as skilled as Tarver, down at 168.
Eubank was more skilled than Tarver in his prime ( i dont think ive seen any more skilled than Banks in his prime ) although i suppose Banks speed & skills had decreased by the time he fought calzaghe

if Byron Mitchell can floor calzaghe then Tarver can ****in kill him, if Charles Brewer can cause calzaghe so much trouble then Tarver can cause calzaghe hell

Calzaghe has yet to beat a fighter as skilled as Tarver, down at 168....but, he's gonna go UP to 175 & outbox/defeat Tarver ?
That's some serioous homerism there, martin.

Woodhall, Eubank and Reid were all well skilled boxers as you probably know Jabs.

Tarver may have a slight reach advantage but JC's quicker so I'd go for Calzaghe UD. Tarver's hardly got a resume to die for either.

Pitty Tarver isnt as confident about beating Calzaghe as you guys, if that were the case maybe he wouldnt have ducked him and the fight would have happened already.

Back then its definitely a win for Calzaghe, now i'm not 100%.

Woodhall, Eubank and Reid were all well skilled boxers as you probably know Jabs.

Tarver may have a slight reach advantage but JC's quicker so I'd go for Calzaghe UD. Tarver's hardly got a resume to die for either.


He has a 175lb resume....& one that's been UPDATED.
Calzaghe hasn't had one fight at 175, & hasn't beaten a quality guy for years.

Pitty Tarver isnt as confident about beating Calzaghe as you guys, if that were the case maybe he wouldnt have ducked him and the fight would have happened already.

Back then its definitely a win for Calzaghe, now i'm not 100%.


Give me a break....no 175lber would duck Calzaghe !

You know better than this Evil.....
I guess Calzaghe's lack of quality opposition has never been his fault ? I certainly don't see Calzaghe as a fighter striking fear in anyone.
In fact...what happened with his proposed match with Glenn Johnson ?

He has a 175lb resume....& one that's been UPDATED.
Calzaghe hasn't had one fight at 175, & hasn't beaten a quality guy for years.

I don't think weight or power would be an issue for Calzaghe as he's been struggling for years to make 168.

Can't argue on the recent opposition but struggling against the Glen Johnson's of this world isn't exactly impressive.

I don't think weight or power would be an issue for Calzaghe as he's been struggling for years to make 168.

Can't argue on the recent opposition but struggling against the Glen Johnson's of this world isn't exactly impressive.

Glenn Johnson is superior to anyone Calzaghe has faced this millenium.

Tarver by a landslide points decision, maybe even a late KO

Give me a break....no 175lber would duck Calzaghe !

You know better than this Evil.....
I guess Calzaghe's lack of quality opposition has never been his fault ? I certainly don't see Calzaghe as a fighter striking fear in anyone.
In fact...what happened with his proposed match with Glenn Johnson ?

Tarver asked for a lot more money than he's worth which is well known as being the best way to duck a fight. Whether he can beat Calzaghe if a whole different story but he did duck him.

I dont see a big weight issue anyway, Calzaghe has major problems with weight he'd make light heavy very easily. It would be a good fight to make.

Glenn Johnson is superior to anyone Calzaghe has faced this millenium.

Well, seeing as Sheika beat Johnson I'd have to disagree.

Well, seeing as Sheika beat Johnson I'd have to disagree.


Sheika is not, no matter what happened when they fought, better than Glenn Johnson.

Well, seeing as Sheika beat Johnson I'd have to disagree.

Johnson has improved but i know exactly what you mean, i think all the boys at light heavy are currently overated(although Jones was once a very, very good fighter).

Sheika is not, no matter what happened when they fought, better than Glenn Johnson.

There's not a world of difference in their abilities so at best you could say they're evenly matched. Johnson's just a dedicated plodder and I'm happy he got some success because of the way he goes about his business but please don't try to make him out to be an elite level fighter.

Johnson has improved but i know exactly what you mean, i think all the boys at light heavy are currently overated(although Jones was once a very, very good fighter).

Yeah, these guys are just living off the good fortune they had in catching RJJ on the slide.

Well, seeing as Sheika beat Johnson I'd have to disagree.Glen Johnson was robbed against Sheika. He actually won that fight.

Glen Johnson was robbed against Sheika. He actually won that fight.

There wasn't a lot in it from what I remember so I wouldn't call it a robbery, certainly no more of one than Johnson's win over Tarver.

WOW, another ridiculous thread discussing Joey Clazone vs. somebody who can fight back

IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN

Calzone will NEVER fight someone who poses any threat at defeating him

EVER

Calzone-Lacy, Calzone-Tarver, Calzone-Johnson, Calzone-Jones, WHY BOTHER bringing up these fights?

let's talk about fights that MIGHT actually happen

like Calzone vs. a milkman (those guys are tough, nevermind)

or how about Calzone vs. Laili Ali (wait, she's to dangerous....)

or maybe Calzone vs. Brian Viloria (once again, too dangerous)

There wasn't a lot in it from what I remember so I wouldn't call it a robbery, certainly no more of one than Johnson's win over Tarver.Go wattch the fight, if you haven't seen it yet, then you should find it. I think Johnson won the fight.

Well Joe's not exactly like Ricardo Mayorga....

oh absoluteley...joe is more technically sound and more refined than that. i was implying that compared to tarver joe would be the presser...

Go wattch the fight, if you haven't seen it yet, then you should find it. I think Johnson won the fight.

I've seen the fight. I don't think anyone could argue if the decision had gone either way but I had Sheika just edging it mainly due to the kd.

I'd have to go with Calzaghe on points. Calzaghe would drag Tarver into a war and I would imagine the scores would read something like 117-112

I know a lot of you are pissed off with Joe at the moment because the fight with Lacy has been put back, but Calzaghe is a quality fighter... If he was as bad as some of you are saying, then why would Jeff Lacy bother fighting him?
lacy wants to fight calzaghe simply because lacy wants to unify the titles.