View Full Version : Ricky 'The Hit Man' Hatton....is no joke...


semjasa
12-17-2004, 01:30 PM
Many people have been dissin this guy, and I have no idea why.
When Hatton fights Kostya he will beat him....

scap
12-17-2004, 01:34 PM
I agree Hatton is no joke, but KT will still kill him, this will be a brutal fight for five rounds, if Ricky can last that long, remember Eamon MgGee gave HAtton a lot of trouble, Kt is a completely differnt style than Eamon, but if EM can hurt Ricky....KT will kill him.

urdaddyinAZ
12-17-2004, 01:35 PM
I just wanna see the damn kid fight already, yeah he sounds great.....but can I please see him bang with someone. ****, he might become my favorite fighter.

DLT
12-17-2004, 01:37 PM
Many people have been dissin this guy, and I have no idea why.
When Hatton fights Kostya he will beat him....
I think Hatton is a solid fighter but nothing special. You cant get mad at people when Ricky is the one who hasnt stepped up. If he fights Zoo I would be worried for him. He shouldve already stepped up his comp. Now he's going to jump from fighting C level fighters straight to the top. This is a terrible move. You cant just make that big of a jump and be succesful. Warren has ruined his carrer. Their are things that Zoo to him that he has never seen before. The power and the speed will be a shock to his system. Your suppose to move up in steps. Not from C and D to A plus. Huge mistake

scap
12-17-2004, 01:42 PM
As far as a crowd pleasing banger Ricky is your guy, he dosn't need a ring to fight in he just needs a phone booth...but how long can he take super zoo shots(I hear they are just as bad as everclear)...probably not more than five or six rounds...if it goes farther, the fight for all intenisve purposes will be over, the question then will be how much of a beating does Ricky take, Zoo may ruin this kid. Ricky's people have had him in line for a title shot with KT for a long time and understand that Zoo would have ruined Ricky a couple years ago, now it is time to roll the dice.

Cletus Funk
12-17-2004, 01:43 PM
I agree Hatton is no joke, but KT will still kill him, this will be a brutal fight for five rounds, if Ricky can last that long, remember Eamon MgGee gave HAtton a lot of trouble, Kt is a completely differnt style than Eamon, but if EM can hurt Ricky....KT will kill him.

He didn't give him a lot of trouble, it was pretty 1 sided on the score cards and in the fight. He did stun him once but he shook it off well and you shouldn't underestimate Magee's power. There's enough in KT's past fights for Hatton to have the belief that he will stop Kostya. I think it will be KT's hardest fight since Phillips (and possibly ever) but I am a bit biased. :)

scap
12-17-2004, 01:47 PM
Eamon is a bit tricky but if he hurt/stunned Ricky than KT will do a whole lot worse(after the knockdown Ricky fought differently than he does in most of his fights, if he tastes power then tries to change strategies then forget it, KT/Eamon-not in the same universe)...I agree with DLT, this is not the best move for HAtton...I agree the fight is going to be tough for the first few rounds but KT eats punches for breakfast and so does Ricky....who can eat them longer? KT

Cletus Funk
12-17-2004, 02:09 PM
Eamon is a bit tricky but if he hurt/stunned Ricky than KT will do a whole lot worse(after the knockdown Ricky fought differently than he does in most of his fights, if he tastes power then tries to change strategies then forget it, KT/Eamon-not in the same universe)...I agree with DLT, this is not the best move for HAtton...I agree the fight is going to be tough for the first few rounds but KT eats punches for breakfast and so does Ricky....who can eat them longer? KT

Hatton's chin's unproven so you may or may not be right. He did eat everything that Phillips threw at him, which was plenty, which Kostya couldn't do. There's too many things unanswered to write Hatton off totally. KT isn't particularly hard to hit and doesn't seem to fight off the back foot very often which Hatton will probably make him do. KT is a little too economical with his punches and may struggle to keep up with the work rate of Hatton. He also hasn't been subjected to the sort of abuse to the body that Hatton will give him so who knows if he'll be able to take it? My inclination is that Hatton will be too fresh and hungry for him.

Bombardier
12-17-2004, 02:25 PM
If Tyson fought McNeely every day of the week he would never have lost...and Hatton is no Tyson. Frankie's been pairing his boy with tomato cans for too long. Can't understand why the British Press goes so nuts about this guy. I'm not even saying that he's bad, but he hasn't fought anyone that would be worth making a big deal about.

Like I said, I don't think he's a no-talent, but KT takes him in the middle rounds easy. How will the British press spin that one?

scap
12-17-2004, 02:33 PM
Hatton's chins unproven so you may or may not be right. He did eat everything that Phillips threw at him, which was plenty, which Kostya couldn't do. There's too many things unanswered to write Hatton off totally. KT isn't particularly hard to hit and doesn't seem to fight off the back foot very often which Hatton will probably make him do. KT is a little too economical with his punches and may struggle to keep up with the work rate of Hatton. He also hasn't been subjected to the sort of abuse to the body that Hatton will give him so who knows if he'll be able to take it? My inclination is that Hatton will be too fresh and hungry for him.

Don't even bring up the Phillips comparison, Vince was not the same fighter and It is not even cool that I have to bring that up. Ricky did say after the fight that in like the fifth round Phillips hurt him and he didn't no where he was for a moment...KT is not that economical with his punches, watching him fight Judah and Mitchel (too slick guys) he was able to find there chins easily, Ricky's chin is going to be there all night, if Hatton has any any any any chance at all frankthetank you better hope his chin is made of granite, anything short of granite and it is going to be a long night. Do you want to bet on this fight, granted a long time away but I could use the money?

Cletus Funk
12-17-2004, 02:51 PM
Don't even bring up the Phillips comparison, Vince was not the same fighter and It is not even cool that I have to bring that up. Ricky did say after the fight that in like the fifth round Phillips hurt him and he didn't no where he was for a moment...KT is not that economical with his punches, watching him fight Judah and Mitchel (too slick guys) he was able to find there chins easily, Ricky's chin is going to be there all night, if Hatton has any any any any chance at all frankthetank you better hope his chin is made of granite, anything short of granite and it is going to be a long night. Do you want to bet on this fight, granted a long time away but I could use the money?

I can't back Hatton up as much as I do and not put my money where mouth is now can I? :) I'll put 100k on him if you like? And I'll make it 500k if p4p/El Terrible ever gives me back the points that I leant him. :D

We'll have to disagree that there's a significant difference in the power of a 34 and 38 year old Phillips. The fact that he had to tell us that he was hurt says good things about his chin to me.

It does make me smile that the only reasoning for a KT victory seems to be "big right, goodnight". Worse fighters than Hatton have gone the distance with him. Do you really think Urkal is more solid than Hatton? Some of Urkal's shots had a visible effect on Tszyu and he's got nowhere near the power of Hatton.

I've never really rated Mitchell so I need to see more from KT to tell me he's truly still the fighter that he was, and Judah was looking good against him until he got hit. The guy's got to get old some time.

Cletus Funk
12-17-2004, 03:13 PM
If Tyson fought McNeely every day of the week he would never have lost...and Hatton is no Tyson. Frankie's been pairing his boy with tomato cans for too long. Can't understand why the British Press goes so nuts about this guy. I'm not even saying that he's bad, but he hasn't fought anyone that would be worth making a big deal about.

Like I said, I don't think he's a no-talent, but KT takes him in the middle rounds easy. How will the British press spin that one?

Most of the fans and press in Britain appreciate that he needs to step up in class and they believe that he'll be able to do it. Too many people seem happy just to presume that he won't without seeing enough of him to know his true potential. Why do so many people on this site think that Cotto's going to be a superstar when his resume's worse than Hatton's?

scap
12-17-2004, 03:35 PM
I can't back Hatton up as much as I do and not put my money where mouth is now can I? :) I'll put 100k on him if you like? And I'll make it 500k if p4p/El Terrible ever gives me back the points that I leant him. :D

We'll have to disagree that there's a significant change in the power of a 34 and 38 year old Phillips. The fact that he had to tell us that he was hurt says good things about his chin to me.

It does make me smile that the only reasoning for a KT victory seems to be "big right, goodnight". Worse fighters than Hatton have gone the distance with him. Do you really think Urkal is more solid than Hatton? Some of Urkal's shots had a visible effect on Tszyu and he's got nowhere near the power of Hatton.

I've never really rated Mitchell so I need to see more from KT to tell me he's truly still the fighter that he was, and Judah was looking good against him until he got hit. The guy's got to get old some time.

100K your on...we will have to periodically bring this up to each other as the fight grows near. oh if Im not mistaken which I am a lot the Zoo/Vince fight took place in 97 and the hatton fight took place in 03...thats six years not four, plus Zoo was not as good then as he is now but I could be wrong!

Cletus Funk
12-17-2004, 03:42 PM
100K your on...we will have to periodically bring this up to each other as the fight grows near. oh if Im not mistaken which I am a lot the Zoo/Vince fight took place in 97 and the hatton fight took place in 03...thats six years not four, plus Zoo was not as good then as he is now but I could be wrong!

Cool. I'm sure we'll chat between then and now so I'll let you know how I'm gonna spend it :D .

I did check out the Phillips thing a couple if weeks ago and I'm pretty sure I'm right, but could be wrong. You're right, KT is better but his chin's not. And Hatton would beat any version of Phillips IMO. If you rate Mitchell at all then I don't see how you can dismiss the Phillips that Hatton fought seeing as he took Mitchell to SD 5 months earlier.

Mech.
12-17-2004, 04:12 PM
I think has has gotten better, i saw his last fight, he was actualy moving around and dodging some of those blows, instead of coming straight at the guy and taken those blows, but he still rushes, and takes alot of chances, i guess what it comes down to is wether or not he can take Tzyu's blows, if he can, then he def has a good chance at it.

(also if you look at the fight with mitchell, mitchell tried to come in on the inside agrresively and thats when he got caught by Tzyu, i like hatton, but it really depends on what he can take, IMO )

psychopath
12-17-2004, 04:20 PM
Many people have been dissin this guy, and I have no idea why.
When Hatton fights Kostya he will beat him....


I don't hate Hatton . . . in fact I'm rooting for him to get big fights so he can really prove himself. You see there will always be question marks and doubts on fighters capabilities if they don't venture out of their lair . . . their den to meet other named fighters. Same with the case of Harisson.

baya
12-17-2004, 04:33 PM
Most of the fans and press in Britain appreciate that he needs to step up in class and they believe that he'll be able to do it. Too many people seem happy just to presume that he won't without seeing enough of him to know his true potential. Why do so many people on this site think that Cotto's going to be a superstar when his resume's worse than Hatton's?

would you please explain how cotto's resume is worse than hatton's?

Cletus Funk
12-17-2004, 05:04 PM
would you please explain how cotto's resume is worse than hatton's?

Because IMO a couple of the guys on Hatton's record would beat anyone on Cotto's. The post wasn't meant as a derogatory comment towards Cotto, more towards some people's hypocracy.

Knicksman20
12-17-2004, 09:30 PM
Hatton & all of his fans are in for a rude awakening. He's going to to get stretched in this fight. KT accuracy & power spell danger for the head-first Hatton. Hatton doesn't have exlposive power or else he would've finished Philips off with some of the punches that he landed. He's more of a wear you down TKO type fighter. If he does try to take it to KT, his plans will change very quickly once he tastes a straight right to his chin.

Nautilus
12-17-2004, 09:34 PM
Many people have been dissin this guy, and I have no idea why.
When Hatton fights Kostya he will beat him....

you mean he will bite him ... like Tyson

PBDS
12-17-2004, 09:39 PM
Many people have been dissin this guy, and I have no idea why.
When Hatton fights Kostya he will beat him....


.....Semen jossler strikes again!!! Once again you will be wrong. Just like Danny Williams was gonna expose Vit. lol lol lol

Nautilus
12-17-2004, 09:45 PM
.....Semen jossler strikes again!!! Once again you will be wrong. Just like Danny Williams was gonna expose Vit. lol lol lol


Semjasa has a perfectly wrong forecasting record.

comepana
12-17-2004, 10:19 PM
Is Zoo V Hatton ON? When? Where?

neostars
12-18-2004, 08:56 AM
I been watching a couple of Hattons recent fights.
I give Hatton hardly no chance of beating Tsyzu.
The way he fights is like gatti. He punches hard and leaves himself expose for a period of time.

Against bums, u get away. Against good counter puncher (mayweather, Zab) or fit strong guys (Cotto, Tsyzu), u will get KTFO.

later

semjasa
12-18-2004, 12:18 PM
.....Semen jossler strikes again!!! Once again you will be wrong. Just like Danny Williams was gonna expose Vit. lol lol lol
Rofl you newb.....go find a new site to infect with your bull **** . :-)

drag0n_
12-18-2004, 04:10 PM
I been watching a couple of Hattons recent fights.
I give Hatton hardly no chance of beating Tsyzu.
The way he fights is like gatti. He punches hard and leaves himself expose for a period of time.

Against bums, u get away. Against good counter puncher (mayweather, Zab) or fit strong guys (Cotto, Tsyzu), u will get KTFO.

later

What makes you so sure Hatton would fight like he did against, let's say Oliveira? If he can get away with hard punches and exposing himself? Why not do it? I highly doubt he will fight like that against Tszyu, imo he will fight with more control.

He can adapt - Just check the Tackie fight. Hatton CAN actually box.

Bubba Chunday
12-18-2004, 04:24 PM
What makes you so sure Hatton would fight like he did against, let's say Oliveira? If he can get away with hard punches and exposing himself? Why not do it? I highly doubt he will fight like that against Tszyu, imo he will fight with more control.

He can adapt - Just check the Tackie fight. Hatton CAN actually box.

True, thats a good point. I saw Hattons last fight, and couldnt help but think that he was open to a straight right hand, and Kostya would take his head off! But if he's smart, he'll box and use the jab.
But could he go the whole fight without gettin tagged?? I dont think so.
Could Hatto hurt Kostya?

borikua
12-18-2004, 04:42 PM
I like his style, I would love to see him against Cotto... :cool:

Bubba Chunday
12-18-2004, 04:44 PM
I saw Cotto for the first time, and thought he was good but not as great as id heard.
Kostya versus Cotto would be great, Hatton i think is a little too open, and doesnt have a strong enough chin.

Has Kostya ever been knocked down, or seriously hurt?

Sir_Jose
12-18-2004, 05:02 PM
Many people have been dissin this guy, and I have no idea why.
When Hatton fights Kostya he will beat him....


Wake me Hatton grows a pair and decides to fight outside of Manchester.

Tha Greatest
12-18-2004, 05:45 PM
i never seen this hatton guy fight

but sounds to me his impressive

i'll look out for him his next fight

Bubba Chunday
12-18-2004, 05:48 PM
Wake me Hatton grows a pair and decides to fight outside of Manchester.
er...his last fight was in London, he's fought there before, and America. WAKE DA FUK UP! ;)

Sir_Jose
12-18-2004, 05:54 PM
er...his last fight was in London, he's fought there before, and America. WAKE DA FUK UP! ;)


Oh wow he went all the way to London huh.

Bubba Chunday
12-18-2004, 06:09 PM
Yep! He sure did!