View Full Version : Looks Like Manny Is Keeping Murad


JaNnO
12-17-2004, 12:26 AM
On his birthday today, Manila time, Manny invited Rod Nazario to bring the agreement that will seal the rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in February and a showdown with Erik Morales in July. As you all know it was Nazario who hooked up Manny with Murad and has a big influence on Manny's decision. It appeared that Manny was ready to sign the dotted line, thus paving the extension of Murad's contract. It was Murad who negotiated for these two big fights with HBO for next year. It was also mentioned that a match with Larios is possible as a tune-up fight before his return bout with Barrera assuming he got past Marquez in their much-awaited rematch.

If this happens, then it seemed that Murad was able to pull another magic from his magic bag once again. The question is, is Murad the best option for money going forward, or is this the time for Manny to find a new management that will guarantee bigger fights and purse to his budding career?

THRILLAinmanila
12-17-2004, 12:44 AM
On his birthday today, Manila time, Manny invited Rod Nazario to bring the agreement that will seal the rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in February and a showdown with Erik Morales in July. As you all know it was Nazario who hooked up Manny with Murad and has a big influence on Manny's decision. It appeared that Manny was ready to sign the dotted line, thus paving the extension of Murad's contract. It was Murad who negotiated for these two big fights with HBO for next year. It was also mentioned that a match with Larios is possible as a tune-up fight before his return bout with Barrera assuming he got past Marquez in their much-awaited rematch.

If this happens, then it seemed that Murad was able to pull another magic from his magic bag once again. The question is, is Murad the best option for money going forward, or is this the time for Manny to find a new management that will guarantee bigger fights and purse to his budding career?

Murad got lucky and was able to put together Yanig Sa Taguig.
Otherwise Manny could have surely scouted for a new promoter ... :p

psychopath
12-20-2004, 07:49 AM
Brothers ALTHOUGH i REALLY hate MURADS antics I won't have problem if our guy choses to renew him. ;) I don't know but the latest news says Pac will sign the Feb rematch with JMM but not the intended fight will Morales. This only shows that Manny realizes is just a ploy and signing that document will bind him to Murad further. I'm just hoping for the best.

kadyo
12-20-2004, 08:09 AM
I think manny should trash murad and sign hoya as a promoter. Hoya already has millions of dollars so he will cocentrate on making name as a promoter and having manny will be good for him. Look at how hoya resurrect MAB from the dead and make several millions for him in two fights after an embarassing defeat. MAB will also have a very good reason not to fight pac and avoid another embarassment.

JOM'S
12-20-2004, 10:40 AM
whoever Manny chooses would be fine with me, if he sticks with Murad that's ok, jump to Golden Boy is also fine, but i am not sure how much good that will do to Manny's career...

I just hope that PAC keeps on winning so that the promoters dont matter as much if he looses a fight at this point of his career ...

psychopath
12-21-2004, 12:59 AM
Pacquiao smells something fishy


By nick giongco


MANNY PACQUIAO has received a two-fight contract that promoter Murad Muhammad wants signed, but the Filipino icon is not about to pull out a pen and sign the document despite the untold riches that it promises.


The contract calls for Pacquiao to face Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico on Feb. 26, 2005 for a whopping purse of $900,000, and meet Erik Morales sometime in late July, this time for an even bigger paycheck of $1.75 million, assuming of course he gets past the crafty Marquez.

The document was even handcarried by his business manager Rod Nazario, who arrived in General Santos City on the eve of Pacquiao’s birthday last Dec. 17. Nazario and boxing associate Gerry Garcia came back to Manila on Saturday afternoon empty-handed.

It appears that Pacquiao is not quite ready to sign, indicating he was not comfortable with a contract that puts together two fights in one document. In his previous fights, it has always been one fight, one contract.

"Two-fight contract ang ibinigay sa akin kaya’t pinag-iisipan ko pa rin hanggang ngayon. Yung laban kay Marquez ay walang problema sa akin pero bakit isinama na pati yung kay Morales?"

"Let’s talk about the Morales fight after I fight Marquez. Isa-isa lang," said Pacquiao, who turned 26 last week.

The combined $2.650 million for two fights is unheard of this side of the pond, but there seems to be more than meets the eye in the Pacquiao-Muhammad relationship.

It is known in the boxing circles that Pacquiao no longer wants to see Muhammad play a major role in his fights in the US although a source revealed that the hard-hitting lefty remains under contract with the New Jersey-based Muhammad for four more fights starting with the Marquez rematch.

Pacquiao’s refusal to sign the document could mean that he is preparing to end his relationship with Muhammad. Pacquiao showed his displeasure at the American promoter a month ago when he said he planned to terminate his services after Muhammad failed to secure a megabuck fight for the Filipino against Morales.

Muhammad had assured Team Pacquiao that it (Pacquiao-Morales) was already a done deal, but a few days later boxing bigwigs in the US announced that Morales would instead slug it out with one-time Pacquiao knockout victim, Marco Antonio Barrera.

Pacquiao has only fought twice this year, drawing with Marquez in May at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and flattening Fahsan 3K Battery of Thailand last Dec. 11 at The Fort in Taguig.

Last year, Pacquiao strutted his stuff three times against Serikzhan Yeashmanbetov (In Manila), Emmanuel Lucero (in Los angeles) and Barrera (in San Antonio, Texas).

Pacquiao, The Ring magazine featherweight champion, earned R16.8 million in his four-round workout with Fahsan.


DAMN stupid Nazario and Murad is trying to DUPED Manny. :D They put the JMM fight contract and the Morales fight contract all together in one.

It looks like I'm reading Manny's mind correctly. :D

THRILLAinmanila
12-21-2004, 01:05 AM
Pacquiao smells something fishy


By nick giongco


MANNY PACQUIAO has received a two-fight contract that promoter Murad Muhammad wants signed, but the Filipino icon is not about to pull out a pen and sign the document despite the untold riches that it promises.


The contract calls for Pacquiao to face Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico on Feb. 26, 2005 for a whopping purse of $900,000, and meet Erik Morales sometime in late July, this time for an even bigger paycheck of $1.75 million, assuming of course he gets past the crafty Marquez.

The document was even handcarried by his business manager Rod Nazario, who arrived in General Santos City on the eve of Pacquiao’s birthday last Dec. 17. Nazario and boxing associate Gerry Garcia came back to Manila on Saturday afternoon empty-handed.

It appears that Pacquiao is not quite ready to sign, indicating he was not comfortable with a contract that puts together two fights in one document. In his previous fights, it has always been one fight, one contract.

"Two-fight contract ang ibinigay sa akin kaya’t pinag-iisipan ko pa rin hanggang ngayon. Yung laban kay Marquez ay walang problema sa akin pero bakit isinama na pati yung kay Morales?"

"Let’s talk about the Morales fight after I fight Marquez. Isa-isa lang," said Pacquiao, who turned 26 last week.

The combined $2.650 million for two fights is unheard of this side of the pond, but there seems to be more than meets the eye in the Pacquiao-Muhammad relationship.

It is known in the boxing circles that Pacquiao no longer wants to see Muhammad play a major role in his fights in the US although a source revealed that the hard-hitting lefty remains under contract with the New Jersey-based Muhammad for four more fights starting with the Marquez rematch.

Pacquiao’s refusal to sign the document could mean that he is preparing to end his relationship with Muhammad. Pacquiao showed his displeasure at the American promoter a month ago when he said he planned to terminate his services after Muhammad failed to secure a megabuck fight for the Filipino against Morales.

Muhammad had assured Team Pacquiao that it (Pacquiao-Morales) was already a done deal, but a few days later boxing bigwigs in the US announced that Morales would instead slug it out with one-time Pacquiao knockout victim, Marco Antonio Barrera.

Pacquiao has only fought twice this year, drawing with Marquez in May at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and flattening Fahsan 3K Battery of Thailand last Dec. 11 at The Fort in Taguig.

Last year, Pacquiao strutted his stuff three times against Serikzhan Yeashmanbetov (In Manila), Emmanuel Lucero (in Los angeles) and Barrera (in San Antonio, Texas).

Pacquiao, The Ring magazine featherweight champion, earned R16.8 million in his four-round workout with Fahsan.


DAMN stupid Nazario and Murad is trying to DUPED Manny. :D They put the JMM fight contract and the Morales fight contract all together in one.

It looks like I'm reading Manny's mind correctly. :D


Hell yeah !! Murad wants him to sign so that he can be assured of having himself stick to Manny at least until July ! Good move for Manny not to sign on the Morales fight. From what Morales is planning, it doesn't seem to be a clear possibility they will meet at 130. El Terrible seems to be bent on moving up to 135 around mid-year...

psychopath
12-21-2004, 07:02 AM
Hell yeah !! Murad wants him to sign so that he can be assured of having himself stick to Manny at least until July ! Good move for Manny not to sign on the Morales fight. From what Morales is planning, it doesn't seem to be a clear possibility they will meet at 130. El Terrible seems to be bent on moving up to 135 around mid-year...


I really feel that Nazario and MuRAD have started a "partner in crime" relationship . . . and the way Nazario is acting bolster my theory further.

By putting those two fights in one contract Murad is implying that there's gonna be no JMM fight unless he remains Manny's promoter. STUPID FOOL!

WidowTaker40
12-25-2004, 10:40 AM
Murad Muhammad, like Don King and Cedric Kushner, is untrustworthy and unscrupulous to say the least. Manny would be WELL advised to do everything within his power, or his lawyers, to break that contract. Murad=Don King minus the bad hair doo. I have heard of instances where Murad takes OVER 75% of the purse for himself where the fighter is left with less than a quarter. Definitely not somebody who you want representing your interests.

Dub Squared
12-25-2004, 02:06 PM
I agree completely with the Taker. There is no way that manny should stick with this leech any longer. Many was complaiing earlier this year about getting jobbed over purses from earlier fights, and now you want him to sign for two more fights.....one of which may not happen! This sounds like a desparate man trying to do anything which can help him stay in the limelight. Manny don't need this piece of work....he ca sign with whoever he wants if he turns himself into a free agent. I mean getting 2.6 million for two fights, yet Murad can find a way to try and sign Tzsyu for $14 million! It's time to drop this idiot and start cashin in big time

lapulapu
12-30-2004, 09:08 PM
Murad is certainly not the best promoter. But unfortunately, Murad is the only one that made a real good offer to Pacquiao.

The others who tried to get Pacquiao were all talk but no real money. What can Manny do?

I think even his own countrymen, like Elorde, wants a piece of Pacquiao without even a single drop of sweat.

A devil known is better than a devil unknown. Murad was not bragging when he said he gave Manny the earnings in his career. Remember: Elorde took 30% of Pacquiao's purse by just sitting on his ass. What do you call that?????

JaNnO
12-30-2004, 10:22 PM
Murad is certainly not the best promoter. But unfortunately, Murad is the only one that made a real good offer to Pacquiao.

The others who tried to get Pacquiao were all talk but no real money. What can Manny do?

I think even his own countrymen, like Elorde, wants a piece of Pacquiao without even a single drop of sweat.

A devil known is better than a devil unknown. Murad was not bragging when he said he gave Manny the earnings in his career. Remember: Elorde took 30% of Pacquiao's purse by just sitting on his ass. What do you call that?????

i agree but manny has already paid for all those. pacman should be the master of his destiny and he has all the right in this world to choose the best option for him out there.

lapulapu
12-30-2004, 10:48 PM
i agree but manny has already paid for all those. pacman should be the master of his destiny and he has all the right in this world to choose the best option for him out there.

Like I said its unfortunate that no credible choice has dropped by. If Pacquiao has a real manager then maybe he can have a better shot in choosing a very good promoter. But I guess he's not so lucky in that department also. Maybe its one reason he likes to shift to billiards. Efren Reyes has Puyat's support throughout his career.

WidowTaker40
12-31-2004, 08:57 PM
Murad, Cedric and Don should all be banned from boxing as their behavior is DISGRACEFUL and tantamount to theft. How these animals can look at themselves in the mirror is beyond me. Don King proves that there is no God as if there was he would no longer be around. However if there is a heaven and hell Don King is proof that hell is winning.

ispayder
01-01-2005, 12:28 AM
Like I said its unfortunate that no credible choice has dropped by. If Pacquiao has a real manager then maybe he can have a better shot in choosing a very good promoter. But I guess he's not so lucky in that department also. Maybe its one reason he likes to shift to billiards. Efren Reyes has Puyat's support throughout his career.

I myself don't like what Murad is doing to Manny. I don't like what Marty Elorde is doing either. What I don't understand is what is Rod Nazario doing for Manny.

At present Manny just made the best out of the situation because as Lapulapu said, there are no credible offer yet, meaning, Manny doesn't have much choice.

ispayder
01-01-2005, 12:46 AM
Murad is certainly not the best promoter. But unfortunately, Murad is the only one that made a real good offer to Pacquiao.

The others who tried to get Pacquiao were all talk but no real money. What can Manny do?

I think even his own countrymen, like Elorde, wants a piece of Pacquiao without even a single drop of sweat.

A devil known is better than a devil unknown. Murad was not bragging when he said he gave Manny the earnings in his career. Remember: Elorde took 30% of Pacquiao's purse by just sitting on his ass. What do you call that?????

Smart ass that's what! - forget the past, lets calculate his present offer. Ten million Pesos signing bonus and twenty thousand per month allowance. January to July (six months) Pacman will make $2.6M. Thirty percent of that is $780,000 or roughly thirty nine million pesos. He is offering Manny Ten Million One Hundred Twenty Thousand and he is getting Thirty Nine Million. Now figure that out! If I were Manny I will not renew Marty's contract and I will save Thirty Nine Million Pesos in six months.

WidowTaker40
01-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Murad Muhammad is as bad, if not worse, than Don King and Cedric Kushner. MANNY needs new management badly.

tyte3
01-01-2005, 06:17 PM
He needs to dump Murad...get someone new..and sign the fight deals for more money.

WidowTaker40
01-01-2005, 07:19 PM
Why even deal with a promoter. Why not just deal with the networks directly. It does not make sense that every deal necessitates a manager and promoter.

ispayder
01-01-2005, 08:12 PM
Why even deal with a promoter. Why not just deal with the networks directly. It does not make sense that every deal necessitates a manager and promoter.

From what I understand, you really need a Manager to deal with the network or arrange fights for you. So a good manager is really indispensible to boxers. Now, a good manager is supposed to take care of his ward not to milk his ward or dupe his ward. In Manny's case, he has business manager (Nazario) and he has a manager too (Elorde). Which to me is redundant, he can dump both and get a good one.