It's the jab. No one has yet used an EFFECTIVE jab to beat Vitali. The jab is the most important weapon in a fighter's arsenal because it creates openings and disrupts the opponents rythym and timing, it doesnt matter if the opponent is way bigger and has a longer reach. It's the reason why Norton gave Ali such problems...watch those Norton Vs. Ali fights...watch how Norton is constantly stuffing a jab in Ali's face. Throwing off Ali's timing. Look at how Tyson in '88 constantly used the jab to create openings to get inside on much larger opponents. To beat Vitali one must constantly throw a jab to disrupt his rythym and create an opening to get inside then unload on his body eventually wearing him down to get to the head. I must also add that in throwing the jab one must also use good defense along with the jab, to not get countered. Also not just jab for the purpose of outjabbing but to create openings to get inside and unload on Vitali's body. It's all about the jab. :D




p.s. this is not a hate thread...i'm looking at things from a technical standpoint...so relax have a beer or a j....and chill your a$$ out. :D

Damage his rotator cuff :D

johnny swift doesnt deserve a decent answer

Damage his rotator cuff :D

johnny swift doesnt deserve a decent answer

Seeing as how difficult it is to outjab someone who is 6'8'', I'd say that you are probably right.

Seeing as how difficult it is to outjab someone who is 6'8'', I'd say that you are probably right.
nice to be told im right..have good karma worth 500k+ lol

It's the jab. No one has yet used an EFFECTIVE jab to beat Vitali. The jab is the most important weapon in a fighter's arsenal because it creates openings and disrupts the opponents rythym and timing, it doesnt matter if the opponent is way bigger and has a longer reach. It's the reason why Norton gave Ali such problems...watch those Norton Vs. Ali fights...watch how Norton is constantly stuffing a jab in Ali's face. Throwing off Ali's timing. Look at how Tyson in '88 constantly used the jab to create openings to get inside. To beat Vitali one must constantly throw a jab to disrupt his rythym and create an opening to get inside then unload on his body eventually wearing him down to get to the head. It's all about the jab. :D

Too bad Ali and Norton are both 6'3''.

using the jab too much could also leave you open for a right straight down the pipe, or a right cross / hook.
??

when matching arm lengths..

Too bad Ali and Norton are both 6'3''.




dont get my thread wrong. I am not a vitali hater. I am just looking at it from a technical standpoint. even when a man is shorter he can still use an effective jab to throw off the taller opponenets timing. look at tyson in 1988 when he was still good using his jab to beat much taller opponenets.

using the jab too much could also leave you open for a right straight down the pipe, or a right cross / hook.
??

when matching arm lengths..

It's unanimous.

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/9831/3f-batman.jpg

anyone see v-klits face after he fought lewis?? :D
he didnt exactly keep lewis away lol.
ya can get your shots in just by being a superior boxer.
of which there arent many lol.

anyone see v-klits face after he fought lewis?? :D
he didnt exactly keep lewis away lol.
ya can get your shots in just by being a superior boxer.
of which there arent many lol.





ha ha...i could tell you dont like vitali...im not hating on the man but thats the way to get inside on him. thats also why lewis beat him.

using the jab too much could also leave you open for a right straight down the pipe, or a right cross / hook.
??

when matching arm lengths..



true but with proper defense along with the jab...you can use it without being countered.

sorry if i'm stupid for adding to a retarded topic...

if one jabs some to start a combo, VK goes to his back foot, where even if you link a good combo and land on him, the power will be less, having to lean in so much, and the punches will most likely reflect harmlessly..

people try to jab klitchko but hes just too dam tall...only person who could connect on him with a jab was the great lennox lewis

ha ha...i could tell you dont like vitali...im not hating on the man but thats the way to get inside on him. thats also why lewis beat him.


maybe Lewis' technique to get inside was more effective, or maybe he's a far better boxer than recent opponents of VK, but I'd also say VK used a diff. tactic against williams, keeping him far away..

maybe Lewis' technique to get inside was more effective, or maybe he's a far better boxer than recent opponents of VK.

That and he's 6'5''.

maybe Lewis' technique to get inside was more effective, or maybe he's a far better boxer than recent opponents of VK, but I'd also say VK used a diff. tactic against williams, keeping him far away..




yes it is because Lewis is better than his recent opponents. i am not a vitali hater trust me i'm just looking at it from a technical perspective. it will take a GOOD fighter with a good jab to beat vitali..like lewis did....a ****ty fighter who uses a jab wont beat him....he needs to have skills along with that jab.

That and he's 6'5''.


stop trying to stick up for your boyfriend, you keep saying that the only reason that lewis could jab vitali is cause he is 6'5, did you ever stop to think that the only reason vitali is any good is because he is 6'8? all he does is throw a 1,2 combo that is it, if he was 6'2 or something you wouldnt even know who he was

yes it is because Lewis is better than his recent opponents. i am not a vitali hater trust me i'm just looking at it from a technical perspective. it will take a GOOD fighter with a good jab to beat vitali..like lewis did....a ****ty fighter who uses a jab wont beat him....he needs to have skills along with that jab.

yeah, I understand, you're saying it will take an excellent jab of an excellent fighter. I just think that VK was fighting 2 different styles in those fights, that's all :)

this could be settled if lewisd does make a comeback.

stomp stomp stomp went LennoxZilla over the V-Klitoris

yeah, I understand, you're saying it will take an excellent jab of an excellent fighter. I just think that VK was fighting 2 different styles in those fights, that's all :)




well that is what the forums are for--we can all agree to disagree---nothing wrong with having an opinion and looking at an issue from both sides. :D

well that is what the forums are for--we can all agree to disagree---nothing wrong with having an opinion and looking at an issue from both sides. :D


Right On !! :cool:

The only one big and good enough out there to out jabb Vit is wlad but that will never happen and if it by a miracle would, wlad wouldent have the chin to withstand Vits punches.

i wonder if that's why they will never fight each other :P

The only one big and good enough out there to out jabb Vit is wlad but that will never happen and if it by a miracle would, wlad wouldent have the chin to withstand Vits punches.




that would be wild if the two brothers met in the ring...nice talking to you guys...remember this is not a hate thread....just looking at things from a technical standpoint...i gotta go, gotta go back to work. later :D

i wonder if that's why they will never fight each other :P

Perhaps, but the offical reason is that it would break their mother`s heart.

Oh what a fight it would be.

LL has a longer reach than VK anyway, so I don't count that, and besides, he wasn't even out jabbing VK, they were kind of always jabbing at the same time, and nobody ever got the better of it. Hell, LL's worst round of the fight was round 2, but his second worst round was round 6, he hit VK with that one uppercut, and then spent probably the last minute of the round on the ropes, getting his guard split by jabs and rights. The only fighter to give VK a run is Corrie, and he did it because he put alot of pressure on VK, if a fighter had the head movement to make VK's jab miss more, then maybe, but if you're a 6'3, 215 or 220 lb. fighter, throwing your jab at VK is just going to create opportunities for him, he's not going to care about your jab, just like he didn't care much about LL's. Of course, a jab is always important, but some of the rules that normally apply, don't apply with him, the bastard is a freak, I like him, but I'm surprised he can even move around the ring at his size.

stop trying to stick up for your boyfriend, you keep saying that the only reason that lewis could jab vitali is cause he is 6'5, did you ever stop to think that the only reason vitali is any good is because he is 6'8? all he does is throw a 1,2 combo that is it, if he was 6'2 or something you wouldnt even know who he was

Obviously, but he's 6'8'' and here to dominate.

hmmmm, I don't think there's really a secret to beating anybody. As far as Vitali goes, it seems like peeps know it's difficult to get to his head since it's higher up there, but they keep going for it....That doesn't make sense to me. I dunno, I think good side to side motion would make him less accurate and disrupt his own rhythm a little bit. He's not very well conditioned it seems, so I would say keep your focus on his body and occasionally go to the head but only so that you can refocus on the body. I don't see Vitali taking an assualt to his body for 12 rounds especially if he comes in like he did against Danny. I can't really see any purpose in trying to out jab him, he seems too tall for that.

hmmmm, I don't think there's really a secret to beating anybody. As far as Vitali goes, it seems like peeps know it's difficult to get to his head since it's higher up there, but they keep going for it....That doesn't make sense to me. I dunno, I think good side to side motion would make him less accurate and disrupt his own rhythm a little bit. He's not very well conditioned it seems, so I would say keep your focus on his body and occasionally go to the head but only so that you can refocus on the body. I don't see Vitali taking an assualt to his body for 12 rounds especially if he comes in like he did against Danny. I can't really see any purpose in trying to out jab him, he seems too tall for that.




what i meant by using the jab is to use it to create openings to open up on his body. not outjab him for out jabbings sake.

lol, oh okay....I misunderstood you then bro, my mistake.

This guy is so OVER RATED it's a joke. I watched his fight last weekend and this guy has no skill. He is a 'robot'.......The tomato can he fought reminded me of Joe Frazier getting bounced off the canvas by George Foreman. It's amatuerish the way he holds his left so low and if this is the new Heavyweight Champion of the World, we have hit an ALL TIME LOW!

How do you beat this chump? Have him fight a legitimate top 10 heavyweight (we may not have any right now) and it's good night Sally.............

lol, oh okay....I misunderstood you then bro, my mistake.




its cool i will add that to the front...to give this debate more life. thank you my brother.

This guy is so OVER RATED it's a joke. I watched his fight last weekend and this guy has no skill. He is a 'robot'.......The tomato can he fought reminded me of Joe Frazier getting bounced off the canvas by George Foreman. It's amatuerish the way he holds his left so low and if this is the new Heavyweight Champion of the World, we have hit an ALL TIME LOW!

How do you beat this chump? Have him fight a legitimate top 10 heavyweight (we may not have any right now) and it's good night Sally.............

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/7945/0e-indeed_data.jpg

When an opponent is tall like Klit, you jab at the chest.

When an opponent is tall like Klit, you jab at the chest.



great point in clearing that up. the important thing is that you throw it-to set up your shots and various combinations. you make good technical points dempseyfire i take it that you boxed before or you are very observant and technical as you watch fighters with their techniques and strategies. :D

great point in clearing that up. the important thing is that you throw it-to set up your shots and various combinations. you make good technical points dempseyfire i take it that you boxed before or you are very observant and technical as you watch fighters with their techniques and strategies. :D

either that or he's using common sense.

Tyson back in '88 would have given Vitali major problems. dont know about now though.

to have a good jab against someone whos 6'7 u need good reach


bring on SHAQ!!!!

keep on pressuring him.

to have a good jab against someone whos 6'7 u need good reach


bring on SHAQ!!!!





i dont really agree with that. tyson has a short reach and he was very effective with his jab back in '88 when he was good.

Thank you Johnny Swift. I've been following the sport since I was a little kid as my father boxed, and later on I fought in a handful of amateur fights. I do really admire the technical side of boxing, which I feel is sadly overlooked when speaking of Heavyweights . .

Thank you Johnny Swift. I've been following the sport since I was a little kid as my father boxed, and later on I fought in a handful of amateur fights. I do really admire the technical side of boxing, which I feel is sadly overlooked when speaking of Heavyweights . .



cool man, i boxed a few fights in amateurs too, then decided i didnt want to make that my life. but i am a lifelong fan. i try to stay up to date on every fight.

learn how to box properly and try to grow to a height around his....and then you should win easily.

You have to get close to penetrate VK.A tight inside game can hurt him.Byrd closed the gap to stun him and Lewis did it too hurting him bad.Those uppercuts LL landed were killer!

I feel it will be very difficult to beat Vitali. There has never been a fighter like him before.

You have to get close to penetrate VK.A tight inside game can hurt him.Byrd closed the gap to stun him and Lewis did it too hurting him bad.Those uppercuts LL landed were killer!

too bad he was never hurt bad in either of those fights..
:)

the best way to beat him is get all the Klit haters world wide to join together and rise up against this evil robot boxer who somehow makes their days bad. maybe they can get James Toney to lead them and they can talk tons of trash about the Klits while trying to rid themselves of the sexual thoughts they have about the brothers..

:rolleyes:

too bad he was never hurt bad in either of those fights..
:)

the best way to beat him is get all the Klit haters world wide to join together and rise up against this evil robot boxer who somehow makes their days bad. maybe they can get James Toney to lead them and they can talk tons of trash about the Klits while trying to rid themselves of the sexual thoughts they have about the brothers..

:rolleyes:



i am neutral on the issue i niether hate nor love the klits because i dont really like the heavyweights...but from my neutral obervation it looks to me like there are more people that love the Klits than hate them...what i like about them is that they exposing the west to the other side of the world. the future of this planet is for all of us to become global. :D

If they both get KO'd from tomorrow and loose status...
I'll still be glad they got a chance to be effective role models in the sport, possibly attempting to advocate sportsmanship.

:o

the only way i c a secret to beating him is....
KICK HIM IN THE BALLS AS HARD AS U CAN... LOL
im just playin, im a decent klitschko fan.

but not saying out of biasy, that even with the jab, i dont c anyone beating him in the near future

None of these idiots beat Klitschko, except maybe for Rahman. Rahman is the only guy I see giving Vitali a tough fight.

mayb rahman
but even him i doubt it

Ain't no secret. Get inside. Keep working. Don't get caught by those slow ass but heavy rights on the outside.

Ain't no secret. Get inside. Keep working. Don't get caught by those slow ass but heavy rights on the outside.


This sounds very easy. Maybe they should hire you as a consultant. I think that you can get a big remuneration for this advise. :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

ha ha...i could tell you dont like vitali...im not hating on the man but thats the way to get inside on him. thats also why lewis beat him.

Lewis defeated Vitali because he caused a cut above his eye.

One should pray he becomes injured or cut over the eye so the ref stops it.

Ha-Ha people acting like Rahman is DA **** now. He never was and never will be. Before he knocked Lewis he was a club fighter at best. Was getting KO'ed by Maskaev and others. C'mon the guy could not even beat the shade of a shell of Holyfield. And some of you saying he is gonna KO Vitaly.
IMHO the fighter that will beat Vitaly would be young Tyson-like fighter with a great chin and a huge heart and will, to go through all the punishment Vitaly will put on him. Vitaly proved to have a good chin so I doubt that Rahman will be able to do Lewis trick on him.

I think Toney could easily take Klitscho. His technique is very tight and eventually he would get inside on K and start dropping bombs.

I think Toney could easily take Klitscho. His technique is very tight and eventually he would get inside on K and start dropping bombs...


...like the bombs that "KOd" Booooooker.

Toney could be vitali if he is in great shape and uses his reflexes to frustate him. In the Williams fight Vitali was visibly tired in the mid rounds if he gets tired like that against James he will be in big trouble. If it goes beyond 5 toney otherwise Vitali wins by KO.

Toney can not defeat Klitscko, he is too small and not powerful enough. It is retarded to feel Toney can beat Klitscko. The style that would **** up Klit is like a prime Ali. Move and make your opponent follow, counter the shots and outwork him, don`t get caught. Simple. Evander Holyfield`s gamesplan Vs Bowe in the 2nd of their fights would have a chance too. Even if a boxers work is inaffective it can tire the other guy too. Klitscko is over 250, if a smaller man can avoid the worst and outwork him and hit him and not get hit, they can beat him. Jabbing to the body would be a good idea, jab, run, jad right hand run! it might work over 12!

None of these idiots beat Klitschko, except maybe for Rahman. Rahman is the only guy I see giving Vitali a tough fight.

I don't know, Rahman lost to almost every top 10 he ever fought. His last 5 winns were:
Kali Meehan 29-2-0
Terrence Lewis 31-14-1
Rob Calloway 47-4-1
Mario Cawley 22-11-0
Alfred Cole 34-12-3

That's hardly a list to make Rahman even come close to being able to give Klichko a tough fight. Then again, there is always Don King with his "own" judges, "secret vaseline", "holy ****" water, and all the other stuff that DK does to keep those HW belts. I would be extra careful fighting Rahman since Rahman is under "good old" DK. ;)

Toney can not defeat Klitscko, he is too small and not powerful enough. It is retarded to feel Toney can beat Klitscko. The style that would **** up Klit is like a prime Ali. Move and make your opponent follow, counter the shots and outwork him, don`t get caught. Simple. Evander Holyfield`s gamesplan Vs Bowe in the 2nd of their fights would have a chance too. Even if a boxers work is inaffective it can tire the other guy too. Klitscko is over 250, if a smaller man can avoid the worst and outwork him and hit him and not get hit, they can beat him. Jabbing to the body would be a good idea, jab, run, jad right hand run! it might work over 12!

Except a smaller fighter would have to have a hell of a reach (hands to his knees :) ) to be able to jab and run Klichko.

the way to beat a tall fighter like klitschko is not to try and jab him as your reach will fall short, but to go under the jab and hook to the body, like frazier and tyson used to do. it's not rocket science, i'm suprised no-one has done it yet cos he's got to be one of the worst champions in history. he looks like primo carnera in the ring, lousy footwork.

the way to beat a tall fighter like klitschko is not to try and jab him as your reach will fall short, but to go under the jab and hook to the body, like frazier and tyson used to do. it's not rocket science, i'm suprised no-one has done it yet cos he's got to be one of the worst champions in history. he looks like primo carnera in the ring, lousy footwork.


who cares if a fighter doesn't even remove his feet from the canvas.. if he KO'd Ali 6 times in a row, would that mean he's still garbage just because his foot work doesn't have your approval? A fighter has to find their strength, their method of winning and do it good and right.

VK doesn't chase people around the ring. He's smart, he knows he has the height and reach advantage and he likes to fight on the outside. If he makes a fighter come to him, but keeps them at bay with jabs and one-twos, then he should be able to conserve much of his energy. If one gets past the jab and attacks, his evading style of going to the back foot and dodging helps him to deflect power shots and throw off the opponent's attacks.

The best candidate for beating VK is Don King. He is the only one that can do it, and not by fair means. Maybe someone will come along soon that can do it in fairness, but that fighter isn't on the scene right now.

I think the secret to Vitaly is to keep backing him up. When someone throws a punch he backs up and freezes. Back him up with 3 to 4 jabs and unload on him.

Neutralize his jab and taking the fight to him anbd hitr him with a lot of body shots and uppercuts

I think the secret to Vitaly is to keep backing him up. When someone throws a punch he backs up and freezes. Back him up with 3 to 4 jabs and unload on him.

I agree, I think pressuring him to go back with jabs and then throw combinations when you got standing still.

Roll under the jab and get to the body( this is what most people will say will work on klit, but the fighter to accomplish it has yet to come).

As i see it the way to hurt vk his give hime a cut to stop the fight again.

Ore do what has worked best, you need either someone big strong and skilled as LL ore the sanders type fast, southpow, with good chin and a killer left. In my wiev Sanders has been the closest one to beat VK.

I he had gotten himself in great shape intead off ****ty as he allways is, he could have beaten VK.

I'm guessing that no one read my post above....
the last thing you want to do is get him moving back, then unload.. once he sees opponents going for the glory in a flurry of punches or 'unloading' he gets on his back foot and neutralizes any attack. How do you KO steel-chinned Vitali if you have to climb on him just to land your punches? Furthermore, if you put yourself in the position of trying to reach him when he's on his back foot, you just throw yourself off balance and leave yourself open to his attack...
the only way anyone's gonna beat him is a solid connect that only can come when VK is upright (which only happens when VK is on the attack or when both fighters are neutral)... so I'm guessing it would have to be a very powerful counterpuncher..

so I'm guessing it would have to be a very powerful counterpuncher..

Sounds like sanders to me, oh its such a shame that guy can never get himself in good shape.

yeah, that's my take on it..
someone like sanders, who also confuses boxers due to being a southpaw. Sanders is def. a quick, powerful counter-puncher. And like someone said, he was the closest to legitimately beating VK. I think once VK's head was rocked back by sander's powershot, VK changed his approach and ended up with the title.

all this specualtion is of course if VK's chin has a crack in it. If he can take punches like Holyfield, then it would have to be an entirely different approach, not one of KO'ing VK, but by outboxing him and lasting till the end. Then the horrific decisions of the judges could play into it. and if it's one of DK's men, then I shutter to think :D

plus, VK will most likely get a rematch clause in his next championship fight, so he'll have time to consider his next approach...

Get in close and take away his height advantage. Abuse the body cuz he breathes hard early in the fight. Head movements, why don't no one use head movements. Oh yah most important thing, DON'T COME IN OVERWEIGHT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HE FOUGHT lol

I think you're right with the body shots as well...
maybe a counter-puncher who focuses on body punches...

only thing is that some have had that as their plan, but weren't able to succeed, we'll see how it goes, maybe someone will do it right and maybe pull it off!

as far as the head movements, one thing I've noticed recently that I've also commented on, is how VK throws punches AT a target, but not all the way. One commentator during the Williams fight mentioned that. I guess that's faking the punches. That's the best way to neutralize the difficulties of someone with good head movement. Make them bob with the fake, then blast them with the real thing!!
:D

This sounds very easy. Maybe they should hire you as a consultant. I think that you can get a big remuneration for this advise. :eek: :confused: :rolleyes:


Who said it was gonna be easy? I'm just saying that is what you have to do. There is plenty Klit can do to stop this from happening. He is alot more phyisically strong than most of his opponents will be. So all he has to do is shove them back outside and hit them from a distance again.

yeah, he seems to use the old flailing arms technique now a days when someone gets inside. He just pushes away and/or puts his long arms out front so any punch from his opponent hits the arms on the way..
effective, but maybe not for every attack..

His opponents need to tighten their shots up. Throw straight shots to the body when he raises his arms.

I think the secret to Vitaly is to keep backing him up. When someone throws a punch he backs up and freezes. Back him up with 3 to 4 jabs and unload on him.

I think that Williams was trying to do exactly that to VK in rounds 3-7. The only result was the 2 KD of Williams. VK is a great counterpuncher, I don't think that would work at all.

Klit is ordinary. What is EXTRAORDINARY is his range.

He doesn't even have that much one shot power. I don't think I have seen Lewis or Sanders stand up to as many clean shots as I saw them take from V. Klit.

yeah, that's my take on it..
someone like sanders, who also confuses boxers due to being a southpaw. Sanders is def. a quick, powerful counter-puncher. And like someone said, he was the closest to legitimately beating VK. I think once VK's head was rocked back by sander's powershot, VK changed his approach and ended up with the title.

all this specualtion is of course if VK's chin has a crack in it. If he can take punches like Holyfield, then it would have to be an entirely different approach, not one of KO'ing VK, but by outboxing him and lasting till the end. Then the horrific decisions of the judges could play into it. and if it's one of DK's men, then I shutter to think :D

plus, VK will most likely get a rematch clause in his next championship fight, so he'll have time to consider his next approach...


...VK will never have a fight go to a decision again. As if many have gone there in the past. He is more agressive than he used to be and he knows to keep it comeing when his guy is gassed. His cumulative punches wear a guy down and they have nothing left to finish with to make it to a decision. The only way he loses is by knockout early with some kind of huge punch that lands flush and is followed by several more. Otherwise, he wears down and knocks out his opponent every time.

.. The only way he loses is by knockout early with some kind of huge punch that lands flush and is followed by several more. Otherwise, he wears down and knocks out his opponent every time.

Actually, based on his past...
he's never been KO'd or even knocked down!
his only 2 losses are due to injury.
:cool:

Toney could be vitali if he is in great shape and uses his reflexes to frustate him. In the Williams fight Vitali was visibly tired in the mid rounds if he gets tired like that against James he will be in big trouble. If it goes beyond 5 toney otherwise Vitali wins by KO.


Look more closely at VK when he fights, he ALWAYS looks gassed. To me, he looked gassed through the middle of the williams fight, but in round 8, he came out and basically looked like he did in the first round again. I think he just breathes through his mouth out of habit, they both do, and he punches with half his strength to conserve energy, but make no mistake, he'll go twelve if he has to, and Toney has stamina issues of his own to worry about.

your may be right the only thing is vitali is so tall and his reach is so good its makes him very hard to hit

Look more closely at VK when he fights, he ALWAYS looks gassed. To me, he looked gassed through the middle of the williams fight, but in round 8, he came out and basically looked like he did in the first round again. I think he just breathes through his mouth out of habit, they both do, and he punches with half his strength to conserve energy, but make no mistake, he'll go twelve if he has to, and Toney has stamina issues of his own to worry about.

I was just noticing that about WK the other day when watching the fight between Byrd and WK.. he had his mouth open for like 75% of the fight..
but the commentators like to mention it.

The way to beat Vitali is by having a 6'5 body and weighing about 220lbs and slug it out with him. Lennox didn't look pretty against Vitali because you cannot out jab a man that big. Those big shots count. Look how Corrie Sanders scared the **** out of him when he hit him with one left hand. Corrie had a hard punch but i think to how hard he hit was all myth. Sometimes it's easy to be scared of the hype in the fight than the actual fighter.

The way to beat Vitali is by having a 6'5 body and weighing about 220lbs and slug it out with him. Lennox didn't look pretty against Vitali because you cannot out jab a man that big. Those big shots count. Look how Corrie Sanders scared the **** out of him when he hit him with one left hand. Corrie had a hard punch but i think to how hard he hit was all myth. Sometimes it's easy to be scared of the hype in the fight than the actual fighter.
With all due respect but this post is very unintellegent. Since when avoiding punches and fighting a smart fight is being *****. In boxing most of the specialist measure your skill not by how hard you hit and how well you take a punches but by how well you can avoid being punched. And avoiding punches of Corrie Sanders is in fact was very reasonable.

With all due respect but this post is very unintellegent. Since when avoiding punches and fighting a smart fight is being *****.

With all due respect this post hasn't grasped what my post was stating AT ALL. When did i say he's being a *****? I said that he scared him which he did with his power. Been scared is NOT been a *****. I also basically said that i don't think Corrie hits as hard as he is rumoured to.

Was Lewis supposed to have this amazing jab? Wasen't really enough to stop him for good. And, Vitali can take a shot. He had some big bombs dropped on him by Corrie sanders.

Corrie does have excellent power, but it comes mostly from his handspeed. When he hurt Wlad the first time, he caught him leaning foreward, and just never let him recuperate. That, coupled with Wlad's inability to see how hurt he was, and run or hold instead if trying to slug his way out of it at the end let Corrie have his way. And I think the only ones that would have a shot at it would be Corrie or Byrd, if only he had a punch lol, because they're the only ones with the speed to get close to him, but that's not saying they'll ever beat him lol.

I have posted before that to beat Vitali you have to beat him at his own game. Keep sticking the "jab" and set up power shots. The thing is, you have to have an equal or greater height / reach ratio for this to work. Not many Boxers are taller than Vitali

A puncher will always have a chance against Vitali, he is human.
Having said that, he does have an underated defense and a solid chin.

Don't be surprised if he's around for a while

i dont really agree with that. tyson has a short reach and he was very effective with his jab back in '88 when he was good.

Perhaps Tyson has tremendous speed way back then.

But if you're shorter than Vitali and at the same time only as fast as him... then the hell... your jabs won't be effective. In fact, you may eat more leather jabbing than if you simply try to outbalance him and throw your power shots.

people dont really reilze that vitali strentgh is his mind he is one of the most smart boxers i have ever seen, he knows how to fight people and if u look at it the only reason why peopel hate him is cause of the lewis fight imo what if lewis retired after tyson it still would been vitali/kirk johnson/and sanders for the crown its idiotic. also how in the hell is toney suppose to beat klitschko? toney is just a slow chris byrd and vitali pwned him untill he pulled out with a shoulder injury. people under rate vitalis chin also i dont think even rahman can KO him cause he has to reach and vitali has taken hard shots before and kept coming. BTW hey boxer is that a real pic of lewis and klitschko together?

and another thing vitali is a very respectful boxer and gives credat to everone he beats or others look what he said about rahman i dotn know any other boxers who would do that. No one in the divison right now can beat klitschko and thats all there is to it if u hate him so much just wait 5-7 mroe years and u can have someoen else.

people dont really reilze that vitali strentgh is his mind he is one of the most smart boxers i have ever seen, he knows how to fight people and if u look at it the only reason why peopel hate him is cause of the lewis fight imo what if lewis retired after tyson it still would been vitali/kirk johnson/and sanders for the crown its idiotic. also how in the hell is toney suppose to beat klitschko? toney is just a slow chris byrd and vitali pwned him untill he pulled out with a shoulder injury. people under rate vitalis chin also i dont think even rahman can KO him cause he has to reach and vitali has taken hard shots before and kept coming. BTW hey boxer is that a real pic of lewis and klitschko together?

and another thing vitali is a very respectful boxer and gives credat to everone he beats or others look what he said about rahman i dotn know any other boxers who would do that. No one in the divison right now can beat klitschko and thats all there is to it if u hate him so much just wait 5-7 mroe years and u can have someoen else.

Yes, it's the real picture. From what I read, it was taken at Lewis' home in London when Klichko met him after their fight.

and people rip this guy when his personality enough should have u as a fan of his. that man just tore his face up yet he is there smilign and gettign a pic taken with him

and people rip this guy when his personality enough should have u as a fan of his


I'm not a fan of his fighting style, so his personality doesn't matter much to me.

Yes, it's the real picture. From what I read, it was taken at Lewis' home in London when Klichko met him after their fight.


....Yeah that was when Lewis inspected the cut himself and saw that it was healed and still didn't give Vit a rematch like he said he would.

... is to shoot him with a tranquilizer dart! ;)

ha ha...i could tell you dont like vitali...im not hating on the man but thats the way to get inside on him. thats also why lewis beat him.

No Lewis beat him because he inflicted a huge cut, not because he outjabbed him.