I just changed my mind. I dont know what exactly, but I have a strange feeling Peter takes him out. I am a huge Wlad fan, i previously thought he would beat and TKO peter. But From looking at the training pics, the way steward is acting, Klitschko looks strange in his training pics; like he needs some antibiotics and a sandwich.

Plus I think Peter will win-which sux, since he is a slob who wont go far and something strange will happen. Not like the Brewster fight, but similiar.
Just not a great feeling for Vlads chances.

By the way, if Vlad did win, would there be any shot in hell for him to rematch Sanders??????
That would put him in the top 3 on every front.

O big woop, you changed your mind. Everyone rejoice.

where did you see his training pics?

Why not post them for all to see?

where did you see his training pics?

Why not post them for all to see?

exactly what I was thinking.

http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_01.jpg

http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_02.jpg

http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_03.jpg
http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_07.jpg




looks fine to me.

http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_06.jpg
http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_09.jpg
http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_10.jpg
http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_1084_11.jpg
looks fine to me, except whats that mark on his arm?

I just changed my mind. I dont know what exactly, but I have a strange feeling Peter takes him out. I am a huge Wlad fan, i previously thought he would beat and TKO peter. But From looking at the training pics, the way steward is acting, Klitschko looks strange in his training pics; like he needs some antibiotics and a sandwich.

Plus I think Peter will win-which sux, since he is a slob who wont go far and something strange will happen. Not like the Brewster fight, but similiar.
Just not a great feeling for Vlads chances.

By the way, if Vlad did win, would there be any shot in hell for him to rematch Sanders??????
That would put him in the top 3 on every front.

How is that a strange feeling... no jaw against a big puncher equals a Knock Out.

yeah he looks the same...and he is gonna KO this bum.

This thread just goes to show ya: this fight is truly a TOSS-UP!!! I'm a big Sam Peter fan, and I'd love to see him win by KO & get a title shot, but can you comfortably say that either guy will "definitely" win???? I sure can't!!! Vlad wasn't supposed to KO Schulz and he destroyed him... Yanqui Diaz was supposed to give Peter some issues, and Sam ran him over like a dump truck...Right now, with a pistol to my noggin' I'd take Vlad by decision, but I'd never put a single penny on it!

I still say Wlad takes it, but whoever wins, I don't think it goes to the last round. Peter relies on his "power" alone, and if he gives Wlad any issues whatsoever, Wlad will too. He might do it from range, but he'll do it, watch.

I think Wlad looks a little less muscular, which is a good thing. He has enough power, he needs to have the stamina!

he looks perfectly fine the only thing wrong with him is that major farmers tan

Wlad's face look tired, weak, and very not confident. It's like he'd ratha be sleepin at home or sum shyt ratha than training.

Peter by KO! He hungry, he got ta punch, and Wlad got a glass chin.

I dont know what he is doing to him.

To me he looks, tired, waisted...just doesnt look right.

You guys are ****ing morons saying how he looks tired and "not right". What are you supposed to look like after training? ****ing morons holy ****.

You guys are ****ing morons saying how he looks tired and "not right". What are you supposed to look like after training? ****ing morons holy ****.

I agree 100%

You guys are ****ing morons saying how he looks tired and "not right". What are you supposed to look like after training? ****ing morons holy ****.

you're ta moron. Have you seen Morales' training pics lately? Of course you haven't! You don't know jack shyt! Well anyways, Morales doesn't look tired, he looks determined and shyt.

Pac's training photos are ta same as well.

Do me a favor and jest ****in got to sleep man.

This thread just goes to show ya: this fight is truly a TOSS-UP!!! I'm a big Sam Peter fan, and I'd love to see him win by KO & get a title shot, but can you comfortably say that either guy will "definitely" win???? I sure can't!!! Vlad wasn't supposed to KO Schulz and he destroyed him... Yanqui Diaz was supposed to give Peter some issues, and Sam ran him over like a dump truck...Right now, with a pistol to my noggin' I'd take Vlad by decision, but I'd never put a single penny on it!
Man, you're as good as dead!

Out of 47 of Wlad's fights only 4 went to desision.
And out of Peter's 24, only 3 went to distance....

Simple math:
8.5% of Wlad's and 13.5% of Peter's fights ended by the final bell.

Statisticly this fight goes to distance is less than 2% :D





I say you're chances are very, very slim!

This thread just goes to show ya: this fight is truly a TOSS-UP!!! I'm a big Sam Peter fan, and I'd love to see him win by KO & get a title shot, but can you comfortably say that either guy will "definitely" win???? I sure can't!!! Vlad wasn't supposed to KO Schulz and he destroyed him... Yanqui Diaz was supposed to give Peter some issues, and Sam ran him over like a dump truck...Right now, with a pistol to my noggin' I'd take Vlad by decision, but I'd never put a single penny on it!
You know that is exactly right no one knows or they would not even have to fight in the first place.I am really not a huge fan of either ,though I do see Peter eventually being better than Wlad ever was or will be, so I am sticking with my first gut feeling when I heard about this fight and it tellls me Peter KO rounds 4 or 5.-A

I just changed my mind. I dont know what exactly, but I have a strange feeling Peter takes him out. I am a huge Wlad fan, i previously thought he would beat and TKO peter. But From looking at the training pics, the way steward is acting, Klitschko looks strange in his training pics; like he needs some antibiotics and a sandwich.

Plus I think Peter will win-which sux, since he is a slob who wont go far and something strange will happen. Not like the Brewster fight, but similiar.
Just not a great feeling for Vlads chances.

By the way, if Vlad did win, would there be any shot in hell for him to rematch Sanders??????
That would put him in the top 3 on every front.
This is not worth strarting a new thread, really.

Just tag your opinion at the end of another useless Vlad thread, pick any one, there's many.

Man, you're as good as dead!

Out of 47 of Wlad's fights only 4 went to desision.
And out of Peter's 24, only 3 went to distance....

Simple math:
8.5% of Wlad's and 13.5% of Peter's fights ended by the final bell.

Statisticly this fight goes to distance is less than 2% :D





I say you're chances are very, very slim!

Ok, but also consider Peter fought Taurus Sykes, Jeremy Williams, Diaz. While Wlad fought Chris Byrd, Jameel Mc'Cline, Monte Barret, Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, Ray Mercer, Frans Botha, Davaryll Williamson, Elesio Castillo.

Ok, but also consider Peter fought Taurus Sykes, Jeremy Williams, Diaz. While Wlad fought Chris Byrd, Jameel Mc'Cline, Monte Barret, Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, Ray Mercer, Frans Botha, Davaryll Williamson, Elesio Castillo.
Wlad has a good list of fighters on his resume. Peters is a straight out bum.

Wlad has a good list of fighters on his resume. Peters is a straight out bum.
A straihgt out bum?? A bit harsh to say the least....you will probably eat those words someday if not Sept 24.

There's no chance in hell Peter will even touch Wlad. He's too good to lose to an overweight power puncher.

When Peters KOs this "world class fighter" the true boxing fans will rejoice.
Wlad has a good list of fighters on his resume. Peters is a straight out bum.

When Peters KOs this "world class fighter" the true boxing fans will rejoice.
Care to make a bet? I'll bet ALL my points on Wlad...

There's no chance in hell Peter will even touch Wlad. He's too good to lose to an overweight power puncher.
Hey your on record here bold assumption to say the least.Will be a good fight we shall see the outcome.

Man, you're as good as dead!

Out of 47 of Wlad's fights only 4 went to desision.
And out of Peter's 24, only 3 went to distance....

Simple math:
8.5% of Wlad's and 13.5% of Peter's fights ended by the final bell.

Statisticly this fight goes to distance is less than 2% :D





I say you're chances are very, very slim!
wlad's fight with TOS was a decision, but it did not go the distance. it was a technical decision due to a klitschko cut.

and wlad won by DQ in his 5th pro fight against carlos monroe.

so actually, wlad has had only two fights go the distance: his fight with byrd and his fight with bigfoot martin.

How will klit ,take peter`s punches , look at the first two pics ,klit hits Manny and he dident flinch, and in the pic 3 ,Manny hits Klit ,and look at klit he clearly hurt !
In the last pic Klit is running for his life !
In the second set of pics Manny uppercuts Klit ,and he out on his feet ! if he can`t take on Manny ,how will he take on Peter, really ! :buttkick:

How will klit ,take peter`s punches , look at the first two pics ,klit hits Manny and he dident flinch, and in the pic 3 ,Manny hits Klit ,and look at klit he clearly hurt !
In the last pic Klit is running for his life !
In the second set of pics Manny uppercuts Klit ,and he out on his feet ! if he can`t take on Manny ,how will he take on Peter, really ! :buttkick:
and you can say all this by looking at still-frame pictures?

yeah, sure...

Hmm Brick Top I don't know what your talkin bout but okay...and raesaad if by good fight you mean that Peter will get jabbed and power punched all night, then yes you are right.

I have a feeling Sam Peter has a VERY hard chin....

Wlad will definately have to use his skills...

box/punch

When Peters KOs this "world class fighter" the true boxing fans will rejoice.
you mean the haters will rejoice. wlad is a good representative of the sport and only a hater would like to see him knocked out

I have a feeling Sam Peter has a VERY hard chin....

he might...

this fight will answer a LOT of questions.

he might...

this fight will answer a LOT of questions.
True meaning good fight in this corner.

He's the better boxer and puncher then his brother and his brother is champ (i dont care what ppl say Byrd is a little *****) and yes Peter does probably have a granite chin but Peter is gonna find a hard ass time hitting Wlad with such wide looping punches.

wlad's fight with TOS was a decision, but it did not go the distance. it was a technical decision due to a klitschko cut.

and wlad won by DQ in his 5th pro fight against carlos monroe.

so actually, wlad has had only two fights go the distance: his fight with byrd and his fight with bigfoot martin.


Did you see the fight? (Monroe)

I may have taken a lot of head shots ,but if you look real hard at the pics, Manny`s kicking Klits ass ! :poke:

Lol for some wierd reason ( I dont know why) but I feel that a world class fighter such as Wlad wouldnt get hurt by like a 50 yr old guy...could be wrong though.

He's the better boxer and puncher then his brother and his brother is champ (i dont care what ppl say Byrd is a little *****) and yes Peter does probably have a granite chin but Peter is gonna find a hard ass time hitting Wlad with such wide looping punches.
Maybe Till Wlad runs outta Petro in the 3rd.LOL Lets just wait and see K.-A

Maybe Till Wlad runs outta Petro in the 3rd.LOL Lets just wait and see K.-A
u wanna make a bet bro?

I had my fun , but back to business, klit may not have the best chin , if he`s in shape and can go into the late round like he is capable of doing , Peter will be in trouble ,Peter really seems to get winded early ,and if Klit keep`s him outside and thump`s him with thoughs heavy hand ,its over !

Klit by 7rTKO

I had my fun , but back to business, klit may not have the best chin , if he`s in shape and can go into the late round like he is capable of doing , Peter will be in trouble ,Peter really seems to get winded early ,and if Klit keep`s him outside and thump`s him with thoughs heavy hand ,its over !

Klit by 7rTKO


for all the talk about Sam Peter's power... people have really completely forgotten about wlads. wlads straight right is gonna blow Sam Peter up, ill be surprised if he isnt backing up early and often. When wlad lets his right go its a thing of beauty, i dont care what kind of chin Sam Peter has i cant see him getting out of the way of enough punches to win this fight. in my minds eye i see wlad sticking Peter with a left right down the middle when peter gets wild and just killing him on the ropes until the ref steps in. (if he has a good chin)

I think it would depend on Klitchko and his mental conditions

i watched peters last fight last weekend.man the guys footwork.he's just above a clubfighter not even a journeyman.
but he has that raw anxious killer instinct.

this is going to be a short fight.

i guess peters has a chance if he pulls a hatton right out the gate and gets it done by the fourth.

both of these guys will be holding each other up if it makes it to later rounds.

I just changed my mind. I dont know what exactly, but I have a strange feeling Peter takes him out. I am a huge Wlad fan, i previously thought he would beat and TKO peter. But From looking at the training pics, the way steward is acting, Klitschko looks strange in his training pics; like he needs some antibiotics and a sandwich.

Plus I think Peter will win-which sux, since he is a slob who wont go far and something strange will happen. Not like the Brewster fight, but similiar.
Just not a great feeling for Vlads chances.

By the way, if Vlad did win, would there be any shot in hell for him to rematch Sanders??????
That would put him in the top 3 on every front.

did you quit smoking today or something? welcome to reality

Man, you're as good as dead!

Out of 47 of Wlad's fights only 4 went to desision.
And out of Peter's 24, only 3 went to distance....

Simple math:
8.5% of Wlad's and 13.5% of Peter's fights ended by the final bell.

Statisticly this fight goes to distance is less than 2% :D





I say you're chances are very, very slim!
"statistically" Moorer should have whipped George Foreman....

"Statistically" Tyson should have KO'd Evander in less than 8 rounds....

"statistically" Vlad should have beaten both Sanders & Brewster

goes to show ya what "stats" mean in boxing: NOTHING!!!

Wlad's going to knock this guy out.

I see many people are focused on Sam Peters power, and are making him out to be the greatest puncher since Foreman. Lets get serious, he has power, but Wlad has by far the strongest punch in the business. Wether its the right straight or the left hook, they are still stronger than anything in Peters arsenal. Also dont forget Peters chin is going for a test sept 24th, and I really dont think he is going to pass. Chris Byrd is virtually the only person that was able to finish on his feet with Wlad, and he still suffered two knockdowns in the fight. And Peter is smaller than Byrd, much less skill or speed, worse stamina, only thing that matters for him is his above average power.

"statistically" Moorer should have whipped George Foreman....

"Statistically" Tyson should have KO'd Evander in less than 8 rounds....

"statistically" Vlad should have beaten both Sanders & Brewster

goes to show ya what "stats" mean in boxing: NOTHING!!!

Comparing Peter to Holyfield, and Foreman, is very ridicilious.

Comparing Peter to Holyfield, and Foreman, is very ridicilious.

Not as stupid as reading that post and thinking he was compairing those fighters.

He was clearly illustrating that statistics don't always tell the story.

And Peter is smaller than Byrd


Wow are you ever an idiot.

And Peter is smaller than Byrd

Peter will probably weigh as much as klit ,around 250 . Byrd weighed 213 for the klit fight ! and there both about 6 foot . Peter is alot bigger the Byrd !

Peter is weighin in at 250...that's just sad especially for how short he is.

Wlad is going to destroy this guy after the 2nd or 3rd round. The jab, and straight right hand is going to KO this "Nigerian Newbie". He's overated, overhyped, and overweight.

Not as stupid as reading that post and thinking he was compairing those fighters.

He was clearly illustrating that statistics don't always tell the story.


Your a dumbass, still bitter from the other thread? What are you like 14 years old? Not only are you half retarded for claiming that Lewis stunned Vitali in round 6 as bad as Vitali stunned Lewis in round 2, but you're an idiot overall.

Your telling me that He did not compare Foremans and Holyfields situation to Peters? Wasn't that the purpose of his post to show that Peter has a chance to pull of an upset based on results that happened in the past?

Allow me to evaluate for your handicapped ass as to why he shouldn't of used Foreman and Holyfield for the comparisson.

George Foreman beat Moorer because he had 60+ fights under his belt, an iron chin, stone cold power, and more expirience than a fighter can imagine.

Holyfield beat Tyson, because he showed to be an all time great, by showing tremendous heart and skill in the past against Bowe, Holmes, and Foreman.

Now Peter will beat Wlad because he has what? Awful footwork, bad handspeed, suspect stamina, because he disposed of all time greats such as Taurus Sykes, and Jeremy Williams?

I dont think you understand Foreman, Tyson, Moorer, and Holyfield are all time greats, meaning they can square off against anyone in history of boxing, and be the underdog, but at the same time have a chance to pull of an upset anytime anywhere.

Not saying that Wlad is that much superior to Peter, but he is. He has better speed, more power, more ring intelligence, much more expirience, an elite jab, a better stronger left hook and right hand. Tremendous talent, yet he's coming in as the underdog in this fight.

A better comparison would've been, remember upsets happen look at Lewis vs Mc'Call and Lewis vs Rahman. And even Mc'Call and Rahman at there high point have showed more talent than Peter to date.

Watch boxing you little rookie.

Peter will probably weigh as much as klit ,around 250 . Byrd weighed 213 for the klit fight ! and there both about 6 foot . Peter is alot bigger the Byrd !

Peter is clearly bigger in size, although i though last time i checked the height measurements I thought Peter was 5'11, and Byrd was 6'2, my mistake, they're both 6'0. Thats what I meant by Byrd being bigger.

Your a dumbass, still bitter from the other thread? What are you like 14 years old? Not only are you half retarded for claiming that Lewis stunned Vitali in round 6 as bad as Vitali stunned Lewis in round 2, but you're an idiot overall.

Your telling me that He did not compare Foremans and Holyfields situation to Peters? Wasn't that the purpose of his post to show that Peter has a chance to pull of an upset based on results that happened in the past?

Allow me to evaluate for your handicapped ass as to why he shouldn't of used Foreman and Holyfield for the comparisson.

George Foreman beat Moorer because he had 60+ fights under his belt, an iron chin, stone cold power, and more expirience than a fighter can imagine.

Holyfield beat Tyson, because he showed to be an all time great, by showing tremendous heart and skill in the past against Bowe, Holmes, and Foreman.

Now Peter will beat Wlad because he has what? Awful footwork, bad handspeed, suspect stamina, because he disposed of all time greats such as Taurus Sykes, and Jeremy Williams?

I dont think you understand Foreman, Tyson, Moorer, and Holyfield are all time greats, meaning they can square off against anyone in history of boxing, and be the underdog, but at the same time have a chance to pull of an upset anytime anywhere.

Not saying that Wlad is that much superior to Peter, but he is. He has better speed, more power, more ring intelligence, much more expirience, an elite jab, a better stronger left hook and right hand. Tremendous talent, yet he's coming in as the underdog in this fight.

A better comparison would've been, remember upsets happen look at Lewis vs Mc'Call and Lewis vs Rahman. And even Mc'Call and Rahman at there high point have showed more talent than Peter to date.

Watch boxing you little rookie.


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Peter is clearly bigger in size, although i though last time i checked the height measurements I thought Peter was 5'11, and Byrd was 6'2, my mistake, they're both 6'0. Thats what I meant by Byrd being bigger.


Taller is not bigger.

That's stupid, just like all of your non sense in that other thread was stupid, just like you jumping on someone for a simple analogy was stupid.

Again, that compairison was to show stats aren't the tell all be all. It had nothing to do with compairing individual fighters, but like an idiot, you found a way to upset yourself and responded with stupidity.

Something you've shown several times over your very good at.

Byrd bigger than Peter... <img src=http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif>
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Taller is not bigger.

That's stupid, just like all of your non sense in that other thread was stupid, just like you jumping on someone for a simple analogy was stupid.

Again, that compairison was to show stats aren't the tell all be all. It had nothing to do with compairing individual fighters, but like an idiot, you found a way to upset yourself and responded with stupidity.

Something you've shown several times over your very good at.

Byrd bigger than Peter... <img src=http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif>
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Does anyone take you seriously on this board? Did you just turn 14?

Does anyone even take you serious on this board? Did you just turn 14?

Yes, I just turned 14, and I'm bigger than Sam Peter.

Yes, I just turned 14, and I'm bigger than Sam Peter.

HMMM look Bozo i found your picture!!! 14 and bigger than Peter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/blackbettie/fat_kid.jpg

HMMM look Bozo i found your picture!!! 14 and bigger than Peter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/blackbettie/fat_kid.jpg


The fact you have access to a photo like that (from a photo hosting site) speaks for itself.

Stupid, and freaky. Your parents must be proud.

The fact you have access to a photo like that (from a photo hosting site) speaks for itself.

Stupid, and freaky. Your parents must be proud.

Actually I just googled fat kid and you came up. Maybe I should've been a little more specific and included retarded as well.

HMMM look Bozo i found your picture!!! 14 and bigger than Peter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/blackbettie/fat_kid.jpg


....That might be the scariest pic I have ever seen.

Actually I just googled fat kid


Did you now?

Do you google fat kids often?

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Did you now?

Do you google fat kids often?

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Only in your case. ;)

....Some kind of huge, mongaloid, transvestite looking thingy.

....Some kind of huge, mongaloid, transvestite looking thingy.

Your being a little hard on Bozo, arent you?

Only in your case. ;)

You google fat kids in my case?

Any way you want to spin that, it sounds pretty sick.

I've never googled a fat kid...

You google fat kids in my case?

Any way you want to spin that, it sounds pretty sick.

I've never googled a fat kid...

Your sense of humour is as bad as your debating abilities.

Your sense of humour is as bad as your debating abilities.

You googling fat kids is funny?

It is to a certian degree, but not the way you're thinking.

I wouldn't be talking about debating skills Mr. "Chris Byrd is bigger than Peter"

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You googling fat kids is funny?

It is to a certian degree, but not the way you're thinking.

I wouldn't be talking about debating skills Mr. "Chris Byrd is bigger than Peter"

<img src=http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif>

The way I was thinking lol? I picked out the first picture that came up, very first pic. I corrected myself about the Byrd Peter debacle, clearly making a mistake, yet you still bring that up. Want me to find how many mistakes you made? I didn' think so, where are you trying to go with this?

wlad's fight with TOS was a decision, but it did not go the distance. it was a technical decision due to a klitschko cut.

and wlad won by DQ in his 5th pro fight against carlos monroe.

so actually, wlad has had only two fights go the distance: his fight with byrd and his fight with bigfoot martin.
Thank You for clearing it up!

:-)

HMMM look Bozo i found your picture!!! 14 and bigger than Peter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/blackbettie/fat_kid.jpg

Anybody remember fatdickwilly?

He was, or maybe is still a poster on this site under another username. That pic reminds me of him.