im so ****in mad right now, i was usualy right about dlh he ran and "patty punch" hopkins in the beginin of the fight. this guy is the biggest ***** in boxing history. then he goes down like a sorry ass *****. "THAT ****IN PUNCH WASNT EVEN A CLEAN SHOT" im really dissapointed in in this fight there was "no excitement" just a boring long fight. i was expecting a brawl or a slugfest or even a fight of the year but damn this fight sucked so much. the reason i say it was fixed was because ppv and las vegas casinos made "MILLIONS" of this fight there was absolutely no way for oscar to win. they paid dlh a great amount of money and he just gave up. plus howcome there was a 10-1 fav for hopkins and nobody for dlh. wasnt dlh a good oppnent for bernard? people need to wake up and start seein the **** clear. anyways i won 300$$ whooohoo.

How can you be mad man - you just won $300!!!!
The shot looked clean to me Hopkins took over in round 7 and it was just a matter of time, the punch obviously just hit the spot.

i am happy, just dissapointed in dlh. this fight was supposed to be a "good" fight yet it sucked honestly.

AHHH quit *****ing.
I'm sick of people like you *****ing after every fight. DOnt you realize that every fight is not going to be an all out slugfest brawl? Hopkins fought a smart fight and I was excited the whole time. OH wait I know why I was excited..because I know something about boxing. The fight was not fixed You can see in slow motion that shot landed and DLH was in SERIOUS PAIN!

No doubt about that, the guy was rolling around on the canvas gasping for air and hollering with pain- what more do people want from him for god's sake!?!

mother****er im *****in cause i spent 60 ****in dollars on a sorry ass fight so **** you. you can be excited all the **** you want the fight was boring as hell. thats body shot that landed wasnt even a "hard" shot.

mother****er im *****in cause i spent 60 ****in dollars on a sorry ass fight so **** you. you can be excited all the **** you want the fight was boring as hell. thats body shot that landed wasnt even a "hard" shot.


You dont know a ****in thing about what your talking about. That body shot was hard and it put DLH out of commision. SO **** YOU JUS BECAUSE YOUR AN IDIOT WHO THINKS IF HE ORDERS THIS FIGHT IT WILL BE CONSTANT PUNCHES BACK AND FORTH TILL SOMEONE DROPS.
I ****IN HATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ON THIS SITE

HAHAHA dont worry about it man,

Thats why Erik Morales and a few others are here.. To always give us our money's worth. Always deliver!!!!

That is such a crybaby way out though, what you were paying for largely was the historical signicance of the bout- and that it lived up to. If you were really looking for an equal dollar value for the money you spent you would not have forked over 60 dollars for a fight between a middleweight and a blown up welterweight in the first place, so *****ing about it is just plain stupid.

Furthermore, all that I was saying is that De La Hoya had nothing to be ashamed of by not rising from that shot- the fact that you think it was 'not that hard' matters in no way in the end since your ass was on a couch not in the ring taking it.

You dont know a ****in thing about what your talking about. That body shot was hard and it put DLH out of commision. SO **** YOU JUS BECAUSE YOUR AN IDIOT WHO THINKS IF HE ORDERS THIS FIGHT IT WILL BE CONSTANT PUNCHES BACK AND FORTH TILL SOMEONE DROPS.
I ****IN HATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ON THIS SITE



MOTHER****ER HATE ME ALL YOU WANT MAYBE I CAN DROP YOUR FLABBY ASS BETTER THAN HOPKINS DID DLH. THAT SHOT WAS HARD ONLY TO *****S LIKE YOU MAN, BOXERS TRAIN FOR MONTHS TO TAKE HEAVY SHOTS LIKE THAT, I MEAN I COULDA UNDERSTOOD IF IT WAS A "CLEAR HARD" BODY SHOT LIKE DORINS BUT DLH WAS JUST MEDIOCRE. I GOT MY MONEY OFF THIS FIGHT SO IM HAPPY, JUST SO DAMN MAD IT DIDNT LIVE UP TO THE HYPE.

Totally off topic but if anyone can help how do you change the writing under your user name - cheers

That is such a crybaby way out though, what you were paying for largely was the historical signicance of the bout- and that it lived up to. If you were really looking for an equal dollar value for the money you spent you would not have forked over 60 dollars for a fight between a middleweight and a blown up welterweight in the first place, so *****ing about it is just plain stupid.

Furthermore, all that I was saying is that De La Hoya had nothing to be ashamed of by not rising from that shot- the fact that you think it was 'not that hard' matters in no way in the end since your ass was on a couch not in the ring taking it.


please forgive me if i dont think the same way you do. but i purchased this fight because i thought it was gonna be a "good fight" thats all no problemo.....for me its more stupid for you to come in MY post makin no damn sence. if i was sittin down, in bed, in shower,standin up so what dont worry bout me. dont even try to start somethin u cant finish.

please forgive me if i dont think the same way you do. but i purchased this fight because i thought it was gonna be a "good fight" thats all no problemo.....for me its more stupid for you to come in MY post makin no damn sence. if i was sittin down, in bed, in shower,standin up so what dont worry bout me. dont even try to start somethin u cant finish.

I was saying that you *****ing made no 'sence', you are the idiot if you thought the bout was going to be anything but what it was... one-sided. Hell, I have been saying that for months, or maybe you were just too dumb to listen.

I was saying that you *****ing made no 'sence', you are the idiot if you thought the bout was going to be anything but what it was... one-sided. Hell, I have been saying that for months, or maybe you were just too dumb to listen.

ever since this fight was announced, i knew hopkins was gonna win just not as easy as he did on saturday. everything i say makes perfect sence, i dont think theres a reason for not understanding me.

Totally off topic but if anyone can help how do you change the writing under your user name - cheers You have to save up money and go to the store and buy it :(
i wonder how much it costs to change it :confused:

i am happy, just dissapointed in dlh. this fight was supposed to be a "good" fight yet it sucked honestly.

:eek: Sucked? Get some respect, that was a amazing fight. Both fighters fought the opposite to how we all expected, nobdy expected Oscar to control the pace early on and nobody expected Bernard to hold off and try to outbox Oscar.

THANK YOU WEZ... The fight was great... I was excited the entire time and I love body shot knockouts.

De La Hoya was also asked if he regretted his decision to face Hopkins. "I feel proud that I went up against the undisputed middleweight champ but I still feel very dissapointed that I let him hit me with that body shot. It was right on the spot. Its a shot that paralyses you. I wanted to get up but I just couldn't. I was angry and that's why I was pounding the canvas."


AND YOUR SAYING THE SHOT DIDNT HURT????? LIEK I SAID IT PARALYZES YOU

Fight was definitely great :) , but I believe oscar could have done better yesterday night.. :mad:

REALLY?? I was surprised how well Oscar did He didnt run like a ***** like everybody thought he would do and he won the early rounds and you could tell Hopkins was pissed.

I have to give Oscar respect for that fight but CAN ANYBODY FIGURE OUT WHY DLH DIDNT THROW THE LEFT HOOK BARELY AT ALL???

PLEASE DONT SAY THE STITCHES.

I liked the fight also! :D

MOTHER****ER HATE ME ALL YOU WANT MAYBE I CAN DROP YOUR FLABBY ASS BETTER THAN HOPKINS DID DLH. THAT SHOT WAS HARD ONLY TO *****S LIKE YOU MAN, BOXERS TRAIN FOR MONTHS TO TAKE HEAVY SHOTS LIKE THAT, I MEAN I COULDA UNDERSTOOD IF IT WAS A "CLEAR HARD" BODY SHOT LIKE DORINS BUT DLH WAS JUST MEDIOCRE. I GOT MY MONEY OFF THIS FIGHT SO IM HAPPY, JUST SO DAMN MAD IT DIDNT LIVE UP TO THE HYPE.


BIGSMOOTHH, IF YOU WANT TO BE MADDER WATCH THE MORALES-MAB FIGHT.

MAB FIGHTS UNDER DLH!

im so ****in mad right now, i was usualy right about dlh he ran and "patty punch" hopkins in the beginin of the fight. this guy is the biggest ***** in boxing history. then he goes down like a sorry ass *****. "THAT ****IN PUNCH WASNT EVEN A CLEAN SHOT" im really dissapointed in in this fight there was "no excitement" just a boring long fight. i was expecting a brawl or a slugfest or even a fight of the year but damn this fight sucked so much. the reason i say it was fixed was because ppv and las vegas casinos made "MILLIONS" of this fight there was absolutely no way for oscar to win. they paid dlh a great amount of money and he just gave up. plus howcome there was a 10-1 fav for hopkins and nobody for dlh. wasnt dlh a good oppnent for bernard? people need to wake up and start seein the **** clear. anyways i won 300$$ whooohoo.

ya u ****in ***** why dont u try going against oscar he was tryin to get up u ***get i bett u havent even boxed a round in ur life and u dont understand what they go through and they didnt slug cuz they didnt wanna mess up u ***
let hopkins give u one of those shots and see how long u'll go down for minutes or hours
ppl like u make me sick fool

Hey Wez 9 rounds baby.
It's nice to call a fight right after I ballsed up Tyson Vs Williams!!
I was impressed with DLH, he didn't run, he tried to use his speed and angles but H had a plan to use his own speed, DLH tried to counter with a good flurry after most of X's attacks, but being weaker couldn't sustain it. I was thoroughly absorbed in the fight and felt after r7 it was a matter of time but would think X would stop him in the 10th or 11th, the body shot finish was a surprise and DLH couldn't of got up if he had a 100 count, x marked the spot (sorry lol).
I think x vs sturm would be a good finish to his career however i'd prefer to see him against either the winner of Tito and Mayorga or jones or Tarver, i think the only two matches that might be made though are vs sturm or Tito 2 or mayorga.
Plus us GBiers got to see Cotto in action and i was very impressed, Pinto though didn't look up to much cop though, very reckless and a touch to whiney!! oh and no chin.
Well worth the money for me, although my wife complained when i shouted my ass off when that body shot landed :D

why u tryin to act like u all hard n **** on tha net
it's not like u'lll even fight anybody here
and oscar did do good

This guy don't know **** about REAL boxing. He probably thinks all KO comes from a head shot. What happened to DLH is similar to what happened to Dorin against Gatti. And the reason why Hopkins was the fave is the fact that Hopkins have been dominating the division where DLH had a hard time against an unknown Sturm. I mean even you bet in favor of Hopkins, and most people feel the same.

LOL bigsmooth you dumb mother****er nice thread. Shows your boxing ignorance. Can't appreciate the art of boxing unless its a slugfest between the 2 boxers. You're prolly angry cuz your boy Oscar was ktfo. I wanan see YOU take that liver shot instead of De LaHoya if you thought it was so weak. Mannn you know nothing. Props to the Golden Boy for standing his ground. For making it even a close fight (at least in my card, Hopkins 77-75).

Thanks to all of you guys for realizuing that BIg smooth doesnt know what hes talking about. I dont believe hes a boxer if he cant aprrecaite that shot.

Yes the whole card was worthy of ESPN2 status - we all send DLH & Hopkins our cable bill? LOL!
DLH was acting a lil too overdramatic tho...kinda fishy, but I guess he'll be eating good for the rest of his life and we'll be here *****ing and complaining broke as a joke! hahahah!
Peace!
btw: I lost $100 on DLH, but I'm an accountant you can write off your gambling losses on your 2004 income taxes! YES!

Yes the whole card was worthy of ESPN2 status - we all send DLH & Hopkins our cable bill? LOL!
DLH was acting a lil too overdramatic tho...kinda fishy, but I guess he'll be eating good for the rest of his life and we'll be here *****ing and complaining broke as a joke! hahahah!
Peace!
btw: I lost $100 on DLH, but I'm an accountant you can write off your gambling losses on your 2004 income taxes! YES!

Are you serious? do you get it all back? When you win do you have to declare it?

i cant belive oscar was the one that lived up to his word and not hopkins
obviously his outcome of the fight prediction was true
but he said he was gonna fight and not run
and he didnt
hopkins said hed set the pace and just beat oscar
and i didnt see dat happening
i think Strum gave oscar a worse beating
much props n love to Oscar

ya u ****in ***** why dont u try going against oscar he was tryin to get up u ***get i bett u havent even boxed a round in ur life and u dont understand what they go through and they didnt slug cuz they didnt wanna mess up u ***
let hopkins give u one of those shots and see how long u'll go down for minutes or hours
ppl like u make me sick fool



**** off you piece of mediocre ****. lets see how deep your dicksukin lips can take you. what the **** you talkin about "they didnt want to mess up" man shut ur ****in mouth. i bet ur some "stiffass boxing fan" who thinks dlh gave his best on saturday night. your wrong bob. if i make ur punkass sick get the **** off my post ***** ass mother****er.

LOL bigsmooth you dumb mother****er nice thread. Shows your boxing ignorance. Can't appreciate the art of boxing unless its a slugfest between the 2 boxers. You're prolly angry cuz your boy Oscar was ktfo. I wanan see YOU take that liver shot instead of De LaHoya if you thought it was so weak. Mannn you know nothing. Props to the Golden Boy for standing his ground. For making it even a close fight (at least in my card, Hopkins 77-75).



mooks when the hell did I ever said dlh was MY boy? I put a bet on hopkins by ko, get ur **** right homie.

lol bigsmooth. Greatest would prolly snap you like a twig.

Thanks to all of you guys for realizuing that BIg smooth doesnt know what hes talking about. I dont believe hes a boxer if he cant aprrecaite that shot.



if your gonna think or even dissagree with what i say "dont get other folks involved" talk for yourself. it actually makes you look more like a man.

It may have been fixed. Saying big fights have been fixed is not strange, like saying I saw ufos outside. Big fights have been fixed before. I think you all know that.

It may have been fixed. Saying big fights have been fixed is not strange, like saying I saw ufos outside. Big fights have been fixed before. I think you all know that.


hey winter whats up is that you on the avatar pic?
also did you think the fight lived up to the hype?
peace.

Have you ever boxed?

Have you ever been hit in the liver?

If not - You should go open a big cold can of shut the **** up.

The only thing protecting the liver is a thin layer of skin, DLH was on the back foot going backwards, Hopkins was moving forwards and DLH got caught - End of story.

You want dramatic mouthguard flying from the mouth in slow motion stuff - Watch a Rocky movie.

AS a fight fan - I was MORE than entertained and satisfied with the fight and the outcome. Especially as I won 100 bucks for betting Hopkins would stop DLH.

The fight was definitely a disappointment. Slow paced, few punches thrown, fewer landed. Way too much circleing and looking for an opening. The KO punch was a joke. This fight was a dud.

The fight was definitely a disappointment. Slow paced, few punches thrown, fewer landed. Way too much circleing and looking for an opening. The KO punch was a joke. This fight was a dud.



sonny i couldnt of said it better. most of these guys think it was "exciting" but i honestly thought it was a waste of money.

Fight was awesome.

Oscar surprises B-Hop by holding his ground and not running. His hand speed takes over the early rounds as De LaHoya burts flurries. Nard looks for openings. They were fighting Oscar's fight. Mid way through, Oscar slows down the pace a bit. Bernard works him inside. Stuns Oscar brielfy on a couple of occassions. Then it was all Bernard as they switch to his type of fights. It was an awesome display of excecution of plan, adjustments, tactical boxing. Too bad some peopel didn't appreciate it.

Oscar started to feel overwhelmed!!! Thats why it took 3 more punches after the body shot for him to go down!!! He realized that it was his chance to quit!!! This fight was a huge let down!!!

The fight was definitely a disappointment. Slow paced, few punches thrown, fewer landed. Way too much circleing and looking for an opening. The KO punch was a joke. This fight was a dud.

It was a tactical BOXING match - Not a fireworks ridden Gatti Ward esque battle - When you have skills as high as those two - That's EXACTLY the sort of fight I expected to see.

Did you expect Hagler Hearns again? I thought it was going to be MORE of a chess match - I guess its all on what your expectations were...I loved every second.

Great avatar doomeddisciple.

Great avatar doomeddisciple.


Only one missing is Roberto...

It seems to me that all the talk about a fix have their antecedent on the raid on the offices of Bob Arum, January 6, in Las Vegas, where FBI agents siezed computers, contracts, medical records, financial documents, videos, memos, phone records, etc. as part of a joint FBI-NYPD probe into corruption in boxing. Prior to the raid there were allegations of a fix in the De la Hoya-Shane Mosley II fight. It has been months since that raid. Todate, no evidence worth a serious look has surfaced. But the cloud of suspicion continues to hover, such that, the Hopkins win appears tainted in the eyes of some. The arguments rage on re how strong was that Hopkins shot to the liver. Why is it that when Oscar loses, suspicions of a fix surface? Is Oscar seen by some as so invincible that he has to contrive his own defeats?

I already wrote this question of mine in another post but nobody responded so I'll give it another shot. As for the fight I was surprised w/ De La Hoya's gameplan as everybody else was, I had thought prior to the fight that in order for De La Hoya to win was to box his butt off like he has done all his life. Having seen the fight , I don't know if it would've made a difference if De La Hoya would've boxed instead of being the aggressor in the first half of the fight . Looked to me that both combatants had extremely good defense or maybe they just showed way too much respect for each other's strengths(reasons for the low punch landed rate), for De La Hoya it was his speed and for Hopkins it was his strength . Anyhow there are some people w/ suspicions of the fight being "fixed". I saw the fight live and from what I remember, I believe the camera angle had Hopkin's back showing and next thing I saw was De La Hoya rolling on the ground. I didn't really see how he got dropped in realtime until the replays. The liver shot by Hopkins didn't look like it had much behind it, but it was around the area where coaches tell you to go to do some damage. Now going back to the issue of the fight being fixed, if so how does this turnout play out in the future? What if the outcome was different would it mean less money for the losing fighter in future fights? Obviously if it was fixed both fighters was in on it ?

I already wrote this question of mine in another post but nobody responded so I'll give it another shot. As for the fight I was surprised w/ De La Hoya's gameplan as everybody else was, I had thought prior to the fight that in order for De La Hoya to win was to box his butt off like he has done all his life. Having seen the fight , I don't know if it would've made a difference if De La Hoya would've boxed instead of being the aggressor in the first half of the fight . Looked to me that both combatants had extremely good defense or maybe they just showed way too much respect for each other's strengths(reasons for the low punch landed rate), for De La Hoya it was his speed and for Hopkins it was his strength . Anyhow there are some people w/ suspicions of the fight being "fixed". I saw the fight live and from what I remember, I believe the camera angle had Hopkin's back showing and next thing I saw was De La Hoya rolling on the ground. I didn't really see how he got dropped in realtime until the replays. The liver shot by Hopkins didn't look like it had much behind it, but it was around the area where coaches tell you to go to do some damage. Now going back to the issue of the fight being fixed, if so how does this turnout play out in the future? What if the outcome was different would it mean less money for the losing fighter in future fights? Obviously if it was fixed both fighters was in on it ?The controversy of the fight having been fixed and the people in on it will snowball for months and years to come and the answers shall be a lot less convincing than the explanations given now. Time, as it rolls on, sometimes has this nasty habit of making a hazy scene even fuzzier. RE how much money the loser and the winner get in future fights, we'll know as soon as some promoter comes up with $$$$$ and terms that Hop and The Oscar find too hard to resist and ones that could make some of us giddy, angry, puke or all of the above and then some. ;)It could be sooner than we bargain for...! So, let's get ready to grumbleeeeeee!

The controversy of the fight having been fixed and the people in on it will snowball for months and years to come

No it won't. Among boxers, trainers, writers, and those knowledgable on how dehabilitating a liver shot can be, there IS no controversy.

Again, look at the 9th round of the Allen fight. Allen was hurt by the EXACT SAME PUNCH. The fact that he didn't drop down to the canvas screaming like Oscar did can be attributed to him being a huge middleweight with a muscular build.

No it won't. Among boxers, trainers, writers, and those knowledgable on how dehabilitating a liver shot can be, there IS no controversy.

Again, look at the 9th round of the Allen fight. Allen was hurt by the EXACT SAME PUNCH. The fact that he didn't drop down to the canvas screaming like Oscar did can be attributed to him being a huge middleweight with a muscular build.For as long as opinions varry and the volume is considerable, there will always be controversy. Unless one just turns deaf to it; or closes one's eyes, clicks one's heels together and wishes it away... :rolleyes:

im so ****in mad right now, i was usualy right about dlh he ran and "patty punch" hopkins in the beginin of the fight. this guy is the biggest ***** in boxing history. then he goes down like a sorry ass *****. "THAT ****IN PUNCH WASNT EVEN A CLEAN SHOT" im really dissapointed in in this fight there was "no excitement" just a boring long fight. i was expecting a brawl or a slugfest or even a fight of the year but damn this fight sucked so much. the reason i say it was fixed was because ppv and las vegas casinos made "MILLIONS" of this fight there was absolutely no way for oscar to win. they paid dlh a great amount of money and he just gave up. plus howcome there was a 10-1 fav for hopkins and nobody for dlh. wasnt dlh a good oppnent for bernard? people need to wake up and start seein the **** clear. anyways i won 300$$ whooohoo.

bro your retarded! flat out and straight up! if you thought that it was going to be a slugfest, you have no clue and you bought into the hype! dlh and hopkins were never gonna slug it out, that's just for sales. both fighters are thinking fighters, disciplined fighters, and for the most part, well trainned(hopkins at least)they weren't not gonna slug it out, it might have led to that but get real, what chance would oscar have to slug it out with hopkins.............zero! and to say that he gave up after getting hit with that bodyshot, i'll bet you a THOUSAND dollars you couldn't take it!!! i'll even bet oscars pissing blood. that was a perfect bodyshot, just like the gatti-dorrin bodyshot.....bullseye! it's obvious that you've never been in the ring before or had the wind knocked out of you. try and fight after it feels like your soul has been taken and you can't breath!!! i'm not a dlh fan at all, but i give him full 100% respect after his attempt lastnight...to say it was fixed is completely moronic. i suggest that you take your three hundred dollars and buy some common sense!

mother****er im *****in cause i spent 60 ****in dollars on a sorry ass fight so **** you. you can be excited all the **** you want the fight was boring as hell. thats body shot that landed wasnt even a "hard" shot.

Yes you did bigsmooth and your going to continue to spend 60 USD a pop everytime a "big" fight like that appears on PPV. We all are going to do it. :D

bro your retarded! flat out and straight up! if you thought that it was going to be a slugfest, you have no clue and you bought into the hype! dlh and hopkins were never gonna slug it out, that's just for sales. both fighters are thinking fighters, disciplined fighters, and for the most part, well trainned(hopkins at least)they weren't not gonna slug it out, it might have led to that but get real, what chance would oscar have to slug it out with hopkins.............zero! and to say that he gave up after getting hit with that bodyshot, i'll bet you a THOUSAND dollars you couldn't take it!!! i'll even bet oscars pissing blood. that was a perfect bodyshot, just like the gatti-dorrin bodyshot.....bullseye! it's obvious that you've never been in the ring before or had the wind knocked out of you. try and fight after it feels like your soul has been taken and you can't breath!!! i'm not a dlh fan at all, but i give him full 100% respect after his attempt lastnight...to say it was fixed is completely moronic. i suggest that you take your three hundred dollars and buy some common sense!


AMEN Brother!

bro your retarded! flat out and straight up! if you thought that it was going to be a slugfest, you have no clue and you bought into the hype! dlh and hopkins were never gonna slug it out, that's just for sales. both fighters are thinking fighters, disciplined fighters, and for the most part, well trainned(hopkins at least)they weren't not gonna slug it out, it might have led to that but get real, what chance would oscar have to slug it out with hopkins.............zero! and to say that he gave up after getting hit with that bodyshot, i'll bet you a THOUSAND dollars you couldn't take it!!! i'll even bet oscars pissing blood. that was a perfect bodyshot, just like the gatti-dorrin bodyshot.....bullseye! it's obvious that you've never been in the ring before or had the wind knocked out of you. try and fight after it feels like your soul has been taken and you can't breath!!! i'm not a dlh fan at all, but i give him full 100% respect after his attempt lastnight...to say it was fixed is completely moronic. i suggest that you take your three hundred dollars and buy some common sense!

First let me say that I have not and will not go so far as to say the fight was fixed, but anyone that says the shot that floored De La Hoya was "just like the gatti-dorrin bodyshot" either didn't see the fight or is just plain blind.

only way the fight could be fixed is if there was gone be a rematch.. and there aint

bro your retarded! flat out and straight up! if you thought that it was going to be a slugfest, you have no clue and you bought into the hype! dlh and hopkins were never gonna slug it out, that's just for sales. both fighters are thinking fighters, disciplined fighters, and for the most part, well trainned(hopkins at least)they weren't not gonna slug it out, it might have led to that but get real, what chance would oscar have to slug it out with hopkins.............zero! and to say that he gave up after getting hit with that bodyshot, i'll bet you a THOUSAND dollars you couldn't take it!!! i'll even bet oscars pissing blood. that was a perfect bodyshot, just like the gatti-dorrin bodyshot.....bullseye! it's obvious that you've never been in the ring before or had the wind knocked out of you. try and fight after it feels like your soul has been taken and you can't breath!!! i'm not a dlh fan at all, but i give him full 100% respect after his attempt lastnight...to say it was fixed is completely moronic. i suggest that you take your three hundred dollars and buy some common sense!

ok look anus, callin me reatrded is NOT a smart thing to do you nuthugger. i bought the fight cause i thought they were gonna slug it out "which they didnt" but anyways the fight wasnt even exciting. if dlh didnt think he could beat hopkins he wouldnt of stepped up, get that straight billybob. u can say whatever u want bout dlh but he still sucked as usual. and I suggest you take them "blindsfolds" from your eyez so u can see the REAL **** thats goin on in boxing.

ok look anus, callin me reatrded is NOT a smart thing to do you nuthugger. i bought the fight cause i thought they were gonna slug it out "which they didnt" but anyways the fight wasnt even exciting. if dlh didnt think he could beat hopkins he wouldnt of stepped up, get that straight billybob. u can say whatever u want bout dlh but he still sucked as usual. and I suggest you take them "blindsfolds" from your eyez so u can see the REAL **** thats goin on in boxing.

you truely have no clue and no argument....the stuff you've been saying on the post doesn't hold up, you can't even articulate your self without cussing..nuthugger, billtbob, face it you aint got ****!!!obviously you didn't take my advise and get some common sense with your 300 bucks....your so stupid i'm surprised you made it this far in life!!

First let me say that I have not and will not go so far as to say the fight was fixed, but anyone that says the shot that floored De La Hoya was "just like the gatti-dorrin bodyshot" either didn't see the fight or is just plain blind.

and you don't know squat, that was a perect, solid, bodyshot...right were it stops your opponent...enough said. i've just realised that most on the site are truely numb in the skull. i think that all you haters, and conspiricy folks should have the signature " I REALLY DON'T KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING AND THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT, BUT MAKE STUFF UP LIKE I KNOW "

and you don't know squat, that was a perect, solid, bodyshot...right were it stops your opponent...enough said. i've just realised that most on the site are truely numb in the skull. i think that all you haters, and conspiricy folks should have the signature " I REALLY DON'T KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING AND THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT, BUT MAKE STUFF UP LIKE I KNOW "
lol Putting it in all capital letters doesn't make it true. ;)

your so stupid i'm surprised you made it this far in life!!

Aahahahahhaha. I gotta rememebr that one.

How FAR IN LIFE? oops, no caps. doctor's advice! :)

I just finished watching the fight for the second time and let me tell you it was a good body shot. You can even hear a little thud when it landed. In the replays you can see it was not a slap. Watching in real time you can see Hopkins putting alot force into the punch and then lightly hitting Oscar on the chin. He knew it was a good punch and turned to the ref to see if he was going to get the knockdown call. He did and then smiled his way to his corner because he knew it was over.

If you want evidence pointing toward the fact that the De La Hoya and Hopkins fight was not fixed, then consider the fact that Hopkins was the favorite to win the fight! So that alone rules out any betting motive for fixing the fight, you dont make money by having the underdog take a dive. Well maybe HBO or somebody who is looking for a star is fixing the fight, except that makes no sense- De La Hoya is the more popular fighter and the younger one by far, from a financial standpoint boxing benefits if Oscar wins- not Hopkins! Oscar still will be fighting for a longer time then Bernard- and PPV's will be higher when Oscar is fighting then Bernard. So aside from the fact that a smaller weaker man was knocked out by a shot from a larger and stronger one, I ask- what evidence is there pointing to a fix?

if the fight was fixed
it would have been Hopkins goin down
why the fuk would you fix it so the underdog loses?
makes no sense
you guys are idoits who say th shot didnt land clean
it doent matter that it wasnt a "clean" shot
watch it again
its not just that it landed in a great spot
Hopkins jumped in with his hole body weight
it doesnt matter if it wasnt hopkins strongest shot
all that matters is that DLH couldnt handle it
and im a DLH fan]
he just got to ambitious like hopkins is getting callling out Jones and Tarver

all this talk about jones and tarver is exactly what was going to happen when nard beat dlh. but why ??????? why is money the dominant decider in boxing these days, thats the reason the sport isnt as big as it used to be, and for as long as money controls it, it never will be that big again

hopkins is calling out for these two for his big pay day (which fair enough he does deserve) but doesnt he realise that he doesnt stand a chance against these two

fighters should be fighting opponents who are level pegging or wanting to fight to climb the ladder, jones wanted to fight tyson, not that long ago either, just cause it was a big money fight, now hes going to drop down to middleweight to fight hopkins ????

It may have been fixed. Oscar De La Hoya letting Hopkins knock him out gives Hopkins chances now to fight Jones and Tarver. Knocking out De La Hoya has made Hopkins greater. Anything other than knockout would have hurt Hopkins' chances of fighting Jones or Tarver. Oscar De La Hoya still has great fights in his future still despite losing. But, if Hopkins had lost, his career would have been over. It may have been fixed. I think Oscar De La Hoya getting knocked out by being hit in his body was strange.

It may have been fixed. Oscar De La Hoya letting Hopkins knock him out gives Hopkins chances now to fight Jones and Tarver. Knocking out De La Hoya has made Hopkins greater. Anything other than knockout would have hurt Hopkins' chances of fighting Jones or Tarver. Oscar De La Hoya still has great fights in his future still despite losing. But, if Hopkins had lost, his career would have been over. It may have been fixed. I think Oscar De La Hoya getting knocked out by being hit in his body was strange.

Everything you just said is not true. First Oscar losing by knockout doesn't help Hopkins chances for a fight with either Jones or Tarver those fights were on the table before the fight even happened. If anything it only helped him secure more money for either fight. Hopkins legacy would of been enhanced even if he didn't knock Delahoya out. Oscar will always have fights because he is still the money man in the business. If Hopkins lost he would of been set back but he still would be considered a great middleweight. Anybody can be knocked out by a good bodyshot especially one that is in the right place. It doesn't matter if it's Delahoya, Hopkins, Jones or Tarver anyone can be stopped with a good bodyshot.

think about this, hopkins was a big Fav in this fight vs DLH, KO DLH gives him more and better odds of beating DLH a 2nd time if they were to ever meet again,how many people do you think will put their money on Hopkins the 2nd time around? This is one way of Vegas,Hopkins and HBO to all make a huge payday. But I dont think it was fixed. But then again I dont know boxing :o

am not saying that it was fixed. but knowing the trend in boxing, we should all understand that it is not impossible to have that fight fixed.

many fighters had been hit to the body many times but does not easily KO'd. its usually more of a lucky punch.

nothing is impossible to boxing nowadays. that's why to bigsmooth,if you realy know the boxing credibility, you would say its not a good idea to bet your money.

I think Oscar and Hopkins have to much pride in themselves to want to have a fight fixed no matter what money.

you truely have no clue and no argument....the stuff you've been saying on the post doesn't hold up, you can't even articulate your self without cussing..nuthugger, billtbob, face it you aint got ****!!!obviously you didn't take my advise and get some common sense with your 300 bucks....your so stupid i'm surprised you made it this far in life!!




wow, the first time ive seen a dog talk! WHY should i take advice from a WASTE OF SPACE like you. I put on my bets and i won, while you just open ur mouth and let the **** go free. its people like you that are just born to be ****. dont get mad its the truth...........remember that nuthugger.

On the button, caught him just right, so they say.Even if it did land "just right", it sure didn't land very hard.Delahoya is a good actor though.

The people who are still questioning the punch really need to go look at the fight again. The slow motion replays don't really do the punch justice. In real time you can see Bernard throw the punch with force and he knew it landed good. He even said he heard Oscar gasp when it landed.

I agree Mic573, De la Hoya`s reaction was that of a winded fighter, he was pained to regain his feet!

hopkins punch WAS NOT a liver punch. it was on the back/right side of his ribcage, if anything it was a kidney punch. but on his way down, ODLH got nailed by another left hook by hopkins. the body punch probly stole his wind, but the last punch probly took whatever energy oscar had left. i also think that he was overreacting while on the ground. ive seen fighters in pain but ive never seen anyone grimace like oscar did. oscar probly got legitimately knocked down, but while he was down he thought "im getting $30+ million for this fight. i dont care if i win. i just want the money."

That was a good fight to me.
I have no complaints about it.
Whoever said they don't like it are just talking trash.
That fight was a good one.

Floyd Mayweather Jr: What punch?

im so ****in mad right now, i was usualy right about dlh he ran and "patty punch" hopkins in the beginin of the fight. this guy is the biggest ***** in boxing history. then he goes down like a sorry ass *****. "THAT ****IN PUNCH WASNT EVEN A CLEAN SHOT" im really dissapointed in in this fight there was "no excitement" just a boring long fight. i was expecting a brawl or a slugfest or even a fight of the year but damn this fight sucked so much. the reason i say it was fixed was because ppv and las vegas casinos made "MILLIONS" of this fight there was absolutely no way for oscar to win. they paid dlh a great amount of money and he just gave up. plus howcome there was a 10-1 fav for hopkins and nobody for dlh. wasnt dlh a good oppnent for bernard? people need to wake up and start seein the **** clear. anyways i won 300$$ whooohoo.
old ass thread
but still kracks me up

all i have to say is
why would u fix a fight and make the underdog lose
ur suppose to have the underdog win when ya fix a fight

old ass thread
but still kracks me up

all i have to say is
why would u fix a fight and make the underdog lose
ur suppose to have the underdog win when ya fix a fight

I am the greatest

You are the smartest...

Very simple guys...
You all forgot about the marketing side of things. Everything revolves around money.
There simply wasn't any money in Sturm vs. Hopkins.
And they sure proved it... It was one of the highest grossing PPV's of all time... No doubt about it... pretty sad actually.

What if they gave Sturm an offer to go down, or pretend as if DLH is punishing him, then he agreed, but ignored it later. :eek:

Very simple guys...
You all forgot about the marketing side of things. Everything revolves around money.
There simply wasn't any money in Sturm vs. Hopkins.
And they sure proved it... It was one of the highest grossing PPV's of all time... No doubt about it... pretty sad actually.

What if they gave Sturm an offer to go down, or pretend as if DLH is punishing him, then he agreed, but ignored it later. :eek:
ok
so tha explains the DLH-Sturm fight being fixed
we're talkin about Hopkins-DLH being fixed
or rather
osacr taken a dive
in order to make casinos money

It might have been fixed, but I honestly doubt it...

ok
so tha explains the DLH-Sturm fight being fixed
we're talkin about Hopkins-DLH being fixed
or rather
osacr taken a dive
in order to make casinos money
Oh ****! I just woke the **** up. For some reason I thought it was about Sturm. Just ignore my previous post.

As far as DLH-Hopkins... It's possible that it was fixed for all the right reasons. It would build up Hopkins career, giving DLH a very good reason to go back to a lower weight class or possibly retire and be more of a buisness man.
Both now have a promising partnership and each made an assload of money that night.

The tagline for the night of DLH/B-Hop should have been...
"Whoever Wins, We Lose"

Oh ****! I just woke the **** up. For some reason I thought it was about Sturm. Just ignore my previous post.

As far as DLH-Hopkins... It's possible that it was fixed for all the right reasons. It would build up Hopkins career, giving DLH a very good reason to go back to a lower weight class or possibly retire and be more of a buisness man.
Both now have a promising partnership and each made an assload of money that night.

The tagline for the night of DLH/B-Hop should have been...
"Whoever Wins, We Lose"
yes that makes sense
but i wanna hear from the people that think the casinos fixed it
and that somehow they made alot of money off oscar losing

The fight was a ****in fix man... it's easy to see that. DLH wanted Hopkins as his partner to bring in african american fighters so Golden Boy Promotions could have best of both worlds. In return Hopkins made DLH a deal that if he was to fight a mega fight with Hopkins to bring Bernard much needed revenue he would go ahead and join up. Easy as that!!!

The fight was a ****in fix man... it's easy to see that. DLH wanted Hopkins as his partner to bring in african american fighters so Golden Boy Promotions could have best of both worlds. In return Hopkins made DLH a deal that if he was to fight a mega fight with Hopkins to bring Bernard much needed revenue he would go ahead and join up. Easy as that!!!
understandable
but i wanna hear the explanation abot how casinos made money off of DLH the underdog losing
i understand that it oscar made money and so did hopkins
i wanna hear the people that said that the it was fixed becuz of how much money the casinos made from oscar losing

understandable
but i wanna hear the explanation abot how casinos made money off of DLH the underdog losing
i understand that it oscar made money and so did hopkins
i wanna hear the people that said that the it was fixed becuz of how much money the casinos made from oscar losing

I agree with you, if someone was supposed to take a dive it was supposed to be Bernard Hopkins, I'm sure Hopkins would KO DLH anytime they fight...