I'm not saying that he is but I'm just sick of people sweating him so hard. He hasnt done anything and every post I read is about how great he is. The only decent fighter he beat was N'Dou and we dont know how good he is anyway. He KO Pinto and everyone went crazy, now he KO Baily and everyone goes crazy. Pinto hadnt beat anyone and most of his opponents had losing records. Baily was only a decent fighter in his prime and hasnt been good since nearly 5 years ago. If Hatton beat these two guys everyone would say so what. I heard one Cotto fan says he thinks Pinto and Harris are similar and the samething would happened to Harris if they faught. Cotto would break him down with body shots and knock him out. I said to myself yeah Harris and Pinto are the same. NOT. Pinto is nowhere near the level Harris is on and if you think that Cotto will just walk through him then your crazy. Pinto hasnt beat anybody and Harris KO Hurtado, beat Mbaye, and beat Urkal twice, once by KO. They are nothing alike. I like Cotto alot but people hail him like he's Tito and he hasnt done anything. He was moving at the right pace and then after the N'Dou fight he's gone backwards. All I'm saying is he better start fighting some good fighters soon or it will be fair to call him out just like you call Hatton out.

He's a nice fighter, but I dont think he is a special fighter. PR's are sadly mistaken if they think he is the next Tito. By this stage in Tito's career he was already a dominate world champ and a p4p guy while Cotto has yet to face a legit top ten guy in his own division.

Cotto is the next big thing moveing at his own pace (the next Mayweather or Kostya type P4P fighter from what I see NOW)
:D

Cotto is the next big thing moveing at his own pace (the next Mayweather or Kostya type P4P fighter from what I see NOW)
:D


again by this stage(22 pro fights) both those guys were already world champions and on every p4p list

again by this stage(22 pro fights) both those guys were already world champions and on every p4p list
I say Hatton starches him. I realy like Cotto and Hatton. But Im being honest. Cotto runs when pressured (BY SOME ONE THAT CAN ACTUALLY GET BY HIS ARSINEL) and hatton is relentless pressure. If the fight happens I would bet 200K on Hatton.

hmmmmm, I think we definetly havent seen enough to call him THE best, and its not so much that he beat the guys he beat, its HOW he beats them, he's very laid back in the fights ,but he knows how to chop down a fighter, and then hes able to go in and KO.Its impressive, and i dont think Ive ever seen him get visble stuned or hurt.I was impressed , and if Im going to put my money on anybody in that division, it'd definetly be on Cotto.Though cotto prob as a couple more fights before his handlers put him against some of the top fighters in that division, but im fine with seeing him whoop some more fighters before he dukes it out with the likes of Tzyu.

I say Hatton starches him. I realy like Cotto and Hatton. But Im being honest. Cotto runs when pressured (BY SOME ONE THAT CAN ACTUALLY GET BY HIS ARSINEL) and hatton is relentless pressure. If the fight happens I would bet 200K on Hatton.
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but also you gotta take into consideration that hatton takes chances when he does that, and cotto would def take advantage of that, Cotto can see those opening a mile a way,and punch.IMO

Very true, but if hatton could take those counters I think it would bevery hard for Cotto to copewith that kinda of pressure. That being said, Hatton will probably fight Gatti before Cotto cause he aint gonna get Tzsuy. So Im thinking Cotto/Harris and Gatti/Hatton late 2005 to set up a super fight early 2006.At least thats what I hope!

Cotto is the next big thing moveing at his own pace (the next Mayweather or Kostya type P4P fighter from what I see NOW)
:D
My point is that what you say could be true, or he could just be a overated guy beating has beens, and never was. What would any top fighter do to a young guy like Pinto or a washed up Bailey. Alot of people could look better then what they really are fighting these guys. People say look how he killed them. You dont think Zoo, Harris, Floyd, Gatti, or Hatton wouldnt have done the same thing. He's got to step it up before I crown him. I wouldnt complain if he was moving that way, but like I said, after a good start he has seemed to drop off as far as opponents go. They keep saying he's ready and that he can beat the top guys now and then they go and fight Baily.

Very true, but if hatton could take those counters I think it would bevery hard for Cotto to copewith that kinda of pressure. That being said, Hatton will probably fight Gatti before Cotto cause he aint gonna get Tzsuy. So Im thinking Cotto/Harris and Gatti/Hatton late 2005 to set up a super fight early 2006.At least thats what I hope!
Why dont you think he could get Zoo? I heard Warren just confirm it on another website and he seemed pretty serious this time. He said he thinks Zoo may just be denying it because he wants his promoters to give him more money

My point is that what you say could be true, or he could just be a overated guy beating has beens, and never was. What would any top fighter do to a young guy like Pinto or a washed up Bailey. Alot of people could look better then what they really are fighting these guys. People say look how he killed them. You dont think Zoo, Harris, Floyd, Gatti, or Hatton wouldnt have done the same thing. He's got to step it up before I crown him. I wouldnt complain if he was moving that way, but like I said, after a good start he has seemed to drop off as far as opponents go. They keep saying he's ready and that he can beat the top guys now and then they go and fight Baily.He has four fights next year and one of them is Chop Chop(his next fight I think?) he is going to be steping up real soon by mid/end next year he will be faceing Harris and winner of Kostya/Hatton (hopefully)

He has four fights next year and one of them is Chop Chop(his next fight I think?) he is going to be steping up real soon by mid/end next year he will be faceing Harris and winner of Kostya/Hatton (hopefully)
I hope so too. I really like the kid, I'm just not going to crown him until then

My point is that what you say could be true, or he could just be a overated guy beating has beens, and never was. What would any top fighter do to a young guy like Pinto or a washed up Bailey. Alot of people could look better then what they really are fighting these guys. People say look how he killed them. You dont think Zoo, Harris, Floyd, Gatti, or Hatton wouldnt have done the same thing. He's got to step it up before I crown him. I wouldnt complain if he was moving that way, but like I said, after a good start he has seemed to drop off as far as opponents go. They keep saying he's ready and that he can beat the top guys now and then they go and fight Baily.

I see what youre saying but, i dont think that as you said "any young fighter" could fight and beat the guys cotto beat, like cotto beat 'em.I understand the points youre making tho, i mean in my opininon he's kinda wasting his talent,but i wouldnt want him rushing, it seems like either he keeps fighting the guys hes fighting or he goes straight to Tzyu(or who ever you consider top brass here), and in my opinion I'd rather he him stick with the fighters he's got in front of him for a couple more fights(I'd like to see him take Shamba/even though he got whooped mitchells still a solid all aorund fighter IMO) before he does go up against better fighters (Tzyu ;) ) I think he could stand to be a little more well rounded experience wise/ though i guess Id really be all about cotto if he snatched the spotlight from Tzyu, then thered be no doubt in my mind. ;)

He has four fights next year and one of them is Chop Chop(his next fight I think?) he is going to be steping up real soon by mid/end next year he will be faceing Harris and winner of Kostya/Hatton (hopefully)


yeah, it's way too soon to be sayin anyhting about Cotto other than than he's a good prospect, when he steps up, we'll get a really good idea of where he's at. i think now is the time to start fighting real oppposition though, too many bums in a row will make a guy soft, forget about doing the things that set up the big punches and builds false confidence

The only one I see stopping Cotto is Zoo.

I was the one who compared Pinto to Harris. The reason being they are both tall (about 5'10"), rangy, long armed, long torso, and use their right as their primary weapon. Hell, even the way they throw their jabs and right hands is similar. Watch their fights and compare them and you will see that similarity. Harris leaves himself open to the left hand when he throws his right and we all know that Cotto is a great left-hooker. He will counter the right with the left hook all night and I don't think Harris will be able to take it. He will stop throwing the right and start guarding his chin and that's when Cotto attacks the body.

Zoo would be harder because he's shorter and can protect his body better against the punishment Cotto brings. He is still slow and Cotto would counter Zoo's right with his left hook.

That is why I want to see what Cotto can do against a southpaw like Chop-Chop. He hasn't fought one yet and I think he needs the experience.

i think tszyu will face hatton and why not.....it is the easiest fight out there for him and the paycheck ain't too bad either.....and then later on in the summer he will try and fight de la hoya........cotto is overrated and we will see soon when he meets a genuine contender.

i think tszyu will face hatton and why not.....it is the easiest fight out there for him and the paycheck ain't too bad either.....and then later on in the summer he will try and fight de la hoya........cotto is overrated and we will see soon when he meets a genuine contender.

:rolleyes:

Hatton's the easiest opponent until the bell rings, then its a whole different story!!

If he hasnt ever failed a test how can you doubt them?? Its exactly the same as Cotto, i see some weakness but you cant doubt someone who's taken apart everyone put in front of him!!.