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24karatrold 09-06-2005, 10:43 AM ERIK MORALES: THE BEST OF A GENERATION?
06 September, 2005 by Cliff Rold
HBO DOUBLEHEADER HIGHLIGHTS THE SPORTS BEST!
It is hard to fathom that we have had him for nearly a decade but the ultimate warrior of boxing, Mexico’s Erik Morales, has indeed been a presence for that long. He has reigned at or near the top of every division from 122 to 130 since defeating Hall of Famer Daniel Zaragoza in 1997 and has quietly amassed the sort of record that any fighter, in any generation, would be proud to have.
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Parodius 09-06-2005, 10:51 AM Morales is the second greatest Mexican boxer of all time in my opinion. If he beats Pac again & if he goes gets a big win against Chico or Castillo, then he might catch Sanchez. Sanchez is #1 in my opinion.
Q. Morales an All-Timer?
A. Yes, easy.
24karatrold 09-06-2005, 11:00 AM It's getting hard, with his body of work against world class guys, not to rank Morales ahead of Chavez. His field of opponents has just been better.
Martin (Top Knowledge) 09-06-2005, 11:02 AM Erik Morales is already a living legend... Whether he's the best fighter over the last 10yrs.... :dunno:
Possibly.
(Althought Barrera might have something to say about that!!!)
dublion1 09-06-2005, 11:04 AM i say once he gets his fourth title in as many weight classes, he will be the best mexican figher ever, and that includes ricardo 'finito' lopez who stayed undeafeated for 51 fights and retired as such.
24karatrold 09-06-2005, 11:31 AM Yes, Lopez was undefeated, but he also is lacking in overall depth of talent faced (and was VERY lucky not to walk away with a loss to Alvarez the first time).
Martin (Top Knowledge) 09-06-2005, 11:53 AM Yes, Lopez was undefeated, but he also is lacking in overall depth of talent faced (and was VERY lucky not to walk away with a loss to Alvarez the first time).
Something Morales is definatly not! :cool:
theironone 09-06-2005, 11:57 AM Yes, another win over pacman and a win against barerra would be very nice, but even if he retires next week he still in there easy as pie
Tha_Greatest 09-06-2005, 12:11 PM Yes, another win over pacman and a win against barerra would be very nice, but even if he retires next week he still in there easy as pieMorales is a all time great, no question about it.He has only lost 1 fight in my eyes ,he lost the 3rd of the Morales Barrera fight while the 2nd was robbed from Morales, I believe Morales should be 48 -1 with 2 wins over Barrera, 1 over Daniel Zaragosa, 1 over Carlos Hernandez, 1 over Jesus Chavez, 1 over Wayne Mc Collough, 1 over Kevin Kelley, 1 over In Jin Chi, 1 over Junior Jones, 1 over Manny Pacquiao, 2 wins over Guty Espadas, 1 win over Paulie Ayala, and his resume continues. He has a win in the first Barrera fight, That fight could have gone both ways, Morales won, the next fight vs Barrera, that fight was a awesome fight but Morales won Clearly by at least 3 points, The next and last fight vs Barrera, Barrera won it but it could have gone either way,(Morales fought 11 pounds overweight in the last fight vs Barrera), Morales is in my eyes 18 and 1 in title defenses, but his title defense record is really 17-2. He has conquered titles at 3 different weight classes. He has never been Knocked Out so he has the toughest chin in his weight divisions or maybe all of boxing, He has been in pound for pound top 10 for years and years while the De La Hoyas, Vargas, Hameds, Mosleys, L.Lewis, Tsyzus, Jones Jrs, Forrests, Trinidads, Spinks and everyone else drops off, People today and years ago usually put newbies of the pound for pound list ahead of Morales like today , all of a sudden , ive seen list that catapult the Corrales, Wrights, J.Taylors, Pacquiaos, and any other fighter ahead of Morales while dropping Morales down, He is also the most exciting fighter of the past 10 years, arguably. He hasnt even finished his career and hes already accomplished all of this, this man is 3 years younger at least than Marco Barrera
one of the greatest featherweights of all time IMO
oldgringo 09-06-2005, 12:57 PM Morales will go down as one of the best little guys ever. All-time great already.
Manny_P 09-06-2005, 01:47 PM eh, he sucks. LOL!
mic573 09-06-2005, 02:15 PM When it's all said and done he will go down as an all-time great. If he goes up to 135 and somehow beats the winner of Corrales/Castillo II then I would say he is Mexico's greatest fighter.
IwatchBoxing 09-06-2005, 02:18 PM Morales beat Pacman....he must be the greatest of all thams "oh my god"... ;)
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 09-06-2005, 02:27 PM To me Morales would have to beat Corrales or castillo at 135 then i would rank him over Chavez as the greatest Mexican fighter.
Morales is possibly the greatest Mexican Warrior, but i still think Chavez was the better Fighter.
That would change though if he either beat a super top class fighter at 135 or Knocked out Marco Antonio barrera in the very near future.
everlast99 09-06-2005, 03:39 PM if he retired today he would still be a first year inductee into the hall of fame
Easy-E 09-06-2005, 03:41 PM ERIK MORALES: THE BEST OF A GENERATION?
06 September, 2005 by Cliff Rold
HBO DOUBLEHEADER HIGHLIGHTS THE SPORTS BEST!
It is hard to fathom that we have had him for nearly a decade but the ultimate warrior of boxing, Mexico’s Erik Morales, has indeed been a presence for that long. He has reigned at or near the top of every division from 122 to 130 since defeating Hall of Famer Daniel Zaragoza in 1997 and has quietly amassed the sort of record that any fighter, in any generation, would be proud to have.
Read the Rest Here... (http://ringtalk.com/index.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=39)
he needs to beat barrera to be considered an all timer
24karatrold 09-06-2005, 03:51 PM He did beat barerra (at least once) and had the third fight been 15 rounds, Morales wins.
- Evil - 09-06-2005, 03:54 PM Erik Morales is already an all time great, he's fought and beaten the very best for years now and he's only been beaten by one man, and thats up for debate.
amaru 09-06-2005, 04:34 PM morales is definatly an all time great and hes already a living legend. definatly a hall of fame fighter and one of the most exciting fighters in the last 10 years.
`STEELHEAD 09-06-2005, 04:40 PM morales is already one of the all time greats.so is barrera.
wow,if he wants to tango with corrales or castillo... i wish him luck.
if morales doesnt show up in top form i can see zahir lasting into the later rounds if he shows heart.
ZABJUDAH#1P4P 09-06-2005, 04:47 PM Morales is a all time great, no question about it.He has only lost 1 fight in my eyes ,he lost the 3rd of the Morales Barrera fight while the 2nd was robbed from Morales, I believe Morales should be 48 -1 with 2 wins over Barrera, 1 over Daniel Zaragosa, 1 over Carlos Hernandez, 1 over Jesus Chavez, 1 over Wayne Mc Collough, 1 over Kevin Kelley, 1 over In Jin Chi, 1 over Junior Jones, 1 over Manny Pacquiao, 2 wins over Guty Espadas, 1 win over Paulie Ayala, and his resume continues. He has a win in the first Barrera fight, That fight could have gone both ways, Morales won, the next fight vs Barrera, that fight was a awesome fight but Morales won Clearly by at least 3 points, The next and last fight vs Barrera, Barrera won it but it could have gone either way,(Morales fought 11 pounds overweight in the last fight vs Barrera), Morales is in my eyes 18 and 1 in title defenses, but his title defense record is really 17-2. He has conquered titles at 3 different weight classes. He has never been Knocked Out so he has the toughest chin in his weight divisions or maybe all of boxing, He has been in pound for pound top 10 for years and years while the De La Hoyas, Vargas, Hameds, Mosleys, L.Lewis, Tsyzus, Jones Jrs, Forrests, Trinidads, Spinks and everyone else drops off, People today and years ago usually put newbies of the pound for pound list ahead of Morales like today , all of a sudden , ive seen list that catapult the Corrales, Wrights, J.Taylors, Pacquiaos, and any other fighter ahead of Morales while dropping Morales down, He is also the most exciting fighter of the past 10 years, arguably. He hasnt even finished his career and hes already accomplished all of this, this man is 3 years younger at least than Marco Barrera
i agree with everything you said except i thought the first 2 morales-barrera fights could have gone either way i scored them both for morales by just one point.
but he did lose the third match and thats the only true loss for him i agree.
he is without a doubt an all time great no question about it.
Easy-E 09-06-2005, 05:25 PM He did beat barerra (at least once) and had the third fight been 15 rounds, Morales wins.
im aware of that, but his win was a close, split decision, and he lost twice, and the fight was set for 12 rounds, not 15, so that point is totally irrevelant. in order to be considered one of the greats, he has to get the monkey off his back, i believe that he is being overrated by many many people right now.
Sir_Jose 09-06-2005, 05:26 PM ERIK MORALES: THE BEST OF A GENERATION?
06 September, 2005 by Cliff Rold
HBO DOUBLEHEADER HIGHLIGHTS THE SPORTS BEST!
It is hard to fathom that we have had him for nearly a decade but the ultimate warrior of boxing, Mexico’s Erik Morales, has indeed been a presence for that long. He has reigned at or near the top of every division from 122 to 130 since defeating Hall of Famer Daniel Zaragoza in 1997 and has quietly amassed the sort of record that any fighter, in any generation, would be proud to have.
Read the Rest Here... (http://ringtalk.com/index.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=39)
Yeah hye'll go down right along with Chavez, Sanchez and Lopez. The guy has done nothing but live up to the hype. I remember when he was coming up all everyone could talk about was how this kid was gonna be special and he turned out to be as special as everyone said he was.
Not only did he have the talent, but he had the heart to go with it.
Morales is great because he fights for the people and gives the people the fights they want.
oldgringo 09-06-2005, 05:31 PM Yeah hye'll go down right along with Chavez, Sanchez and Lopez. The guy has done nothing but live up to the hype. I remember when he was coming up all everyone could talk about was how this kid was gonna be special and he turned out to be as special as everyone said he was.
Not only did he have the talent, but he had the heart to go with it.
Morales is great because he fights for the people and gives the people the fights they want.
One thing I'll always agree with you about is El Terrible.
He was seriously one of the most dynamic punchers at 122 that I've ever seen. Dead on accuracy when throwing punches at incredible angles with bad intentions.
24karatrold 09-07-2005, 03:16 PM Moarles fights for money; not 'the people'
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